I just read Ian Joyners document. It can be summed up in one point.
C++ allows you to do bad things (if you dont know what your doing), and various other gripes about cosmetic details.
Whether this is bad or good is entirely subjective. There are cases where the 'dangerous' features mentioned are actually quite handy, and aid the deisgn of a given implementation. All of the pitfalls that Ian mentions are avoided by good programmers. The author is just biased towards a more rigid OO implementation such as Eifel or Java.
The advantage of well written C++ or well written code in general is the abstracted interface of functionality it provides. This gives the developer the ability to view and modify a system in an intuitive, abstracted manner. Back in the day of systems programming with C, this was done to a very small degree with libraries and such, but times change. Today's systems are growing larger and larger, and will continue to do so indefinately. When systems get large, the most valuable feature set to build within them is abstraction and scalability (closely related actually). For anyone who thinks C will always live, you may be right. It will always have its place for certain tasks. However, C++ will also have a very prominant position is future development as the need for powerful abstraction and flexibility is required in a language. (to some degree this includes Java and such, but this is a C++ thread)
Then excersise your freedom to get off your ass and buy a software filter for your home use, and dont use any computer without it you whiney lamer. Please, get a clue, and quit trying to force your religious beliefs on everyone. Also note that half of the paragraph you wrote above was technically incorrect. You may have no self control and cant help staring at the nookie you will never get, but most people dont freak out over nekked bodies.
Do you regurgitate everything you hear? They are addictive in raw form when misused
And its not an anti depressant, true, but I said MISDIAGNOSED, and depression is a very common side effect of ADD.
Some of the symptoms he mentioned sounded quite similiar to ADD more than depression, so I suggested he check that angle if not already.
True, its mixed amphetamine salts, but roughly 75% dextro isomer, which enhances mental processes while produced very mild secondary stimulation. This is completely in accordance to treating the symptoms of ADD caused by lack of inhibitory neurons and too many dopamine receptors.
All of this is well documented, go read a book before you spout off unfounded bullshit.
As far as blocking non-porn sites, this is a non-issue. There is no right to have content seen anywhere just because you have web space
Yeah!! Fuck free speach! You dont have the right to say anything you want in public! only in your own home!!
Its people like you that scare me. Do you even think about what you are saying? The implications? Or does filter softer go with jesus and thats all that matters?
Then one day you come home, your little girl is nekked, tore the hell up. Raped and killed by some sick fuck, and hes never caught. Wait, 2 years later they catch him, but oops, technical mistake during prosecution and he gets off. Later he admits to it. NO double jepardy. Ah well, justice has been served.
Lets kill the fucking rapists.. They are sick fucks that need to die, and they will cause problems if they have their pr0n or not.
SO instead of implementing dumb ass stupid software that is pointless, lets form some non profit bigilante groups that persue sick fucks that rape and kill and webcast their brutal murders so that all the other sick fucks no they are hunted.
Wonder what kinda reduction that would give to sex crime.
Hell, i dont care. The entertainment value of crushing a child molesters skull in a vice grip would be worth it. period.
In other countries you are blessed with children who will not succumb to the temptations of the flesh.
But here in the USA, if a child views pr0n, they become rabid flesh fanatics, fulfilling the plans of Satan as they indulge in evil pleasures and go on to rape and kill.
So, perhaps we just need to import children from other countries?
You didn't listen. Their filters DONT WORK. Period. You can get pr0n if you want. You can NOT get pr0n if you want. its all UP TO YOU! Sure, the filters may make it a little more difficult, but the people who want to see pr0n on the library computers ARE GOING TO SEE IT!
Now, what about all those unjustly censored sites? Because little timmy the pervert *grin* saw some nanny on the public library computer, it now has to be crippled needlessly for those who have no desire to look for pr0n? (meanwhile, timmy pulls up a new list of sites that arent blocked and laughs at all those fuming christians trying to get to their censorware website which is now blocked off)
Think about it. It makes no sense. If it does, then your either an avid christian fanatic (hey! your website is blocked!) or clueless. In either case your wrong, so open your eyes and get a clue.
You didn't listen. Ther filters DONT WORK. Period. You can get pr0n if you want. You can NOT get pr0n if you want. it all UP TO YOU! Sure, the filters may make it a little more difficult, but the people who want to see pr0n on the library computers ARE GOING TO SEE IT!
Now, what about all those unjustly censored sites? Because little timmy the pervert *grin* saw some nanny on the pubic library, er public, beg yer pardon, public library computer, it now has to be crippled needlessly for those who have no desire to look for pr0n? (meanwhile, timmy pulls up a new list of sites that arent blocked and laughs at all those fuming christians trying to get to their censorware website which is now blocked off)
Cmon man, that makes no sense. If it does, then your either an avid christian fanatic (hey! your website is blocked!) or clueless. In either case your wrong, so open your eyes and get a clue.
Have you sought help via chemical means? SSRI's, neural stimulants, etc?
adderall is a great anti depressant for those who have been misdiagnosed. Sounds like you depression may stem from an insufficient number of inhibitory neurons and too many dopamine receptors.
There's more to life than sitting in front of a computer, no matter what it's hooked up to
Of course, i never said there wasnt. But for some this may be the majority of their life, and I still insist that this is not a BAD THING.
Besides, I wish you'd get off the "well, it's better than boozing" thing
My only point with that statement was to highlight the fact that in all of the studies, such an activity would be considered harmless or even 'good'. While extensive net use is 'bad'. That rediculous no matter who you state it.
Unfortunately most people use it for chatting and buying things now, not for spending hours reading over the works of Bakunin or looking up information of different cultures
I disagree. Those who spend large amounts of time online are doing many other things than chatting or shopping. Those activities get old quick, and thus its the varied, and ever changing aspects of the net that keep it interesting, and thought provoking.
In some cases over use of the internet could be detrimental, but this is a very rare occurence. To generalize, and say that such use is ALWAYS or ALMOST ALWAYS detrimental to the individual and society is pure bullshit. period.
As for your argument that net users are not communicating with those around them, you may be correct. but they ARE communicating with those that may be thousands of miles distant, yet share a common interest. This provides a wide array of interactive conversations with perspectives that COULD NOT HAVE OCCURED in real life. Net communication is inherantly more pervasive, more available, and more distributed than regular voice communication. This is a tremendous bonus.
I spend near every waking moment in front of a CRT. I actually work, but I code, so I am there in front of one all day, cranking out code. Rarely there will be a meeting.. but thats 40-50 hours actually there in front of one just for work. (Obviously connected to the net)
Then I get home, and I code and work on other computer projects.. same for the weekend. That adds up to about 80+ hours per week.
I cant think of anything else as stimulating and satisfying as computer work (code, design, etc)
Sure, I could go shoot some pool and whatnot.. but, why?
For those who truly enjoy technology and the unlimited possibilites it provides, that big blue room is rather pale and boring in comparison. Nothing wrong with some real world activites every know and then, by by and large Id much rather spend my time elsewhere.
This was about trademarks. And apple probably has an inflexible policy that all trademark infringement has to be challenged. They dont care about the look and feel which is obviously cloned in similiar themes which did not have the apple logo (This has been stated). One of the uses of a trademark is to identifier the producer of a product. Sure, apple *might* have let this slide, which would have been a decent thing to do; but what about users that may have been under the impression that Apple had actually created and approved the theme? I think this was a good idea.. It really isnt about copyright infringement, which *may* cover some of the movie and people themes. And it sounds like once the logo is removed the theme should be fine.
I am actually make a living scamming tech companies to let me play on their phat ass enterprise boxen. They need code written, which is what I do for play, so I write their code, jammin to cool tunes.. getting paid mad dollars by the hour, and then I go home and play on more phat boxen.
t's those who use it to mass produce illegal DVDs hat is the real problem
This has nothing to do with the legality of the DeCSS source code (Except for the fact that the MPAA is tyring to make you THINK it is). Nothing. Period. Big DVD pirate shops dont even need to decode the data first. Its digital data. To make a copy, all you have to do is copy the data.
All this is about CONTROL. The MPAA wants to CONTROL how, when, and where you can view the content. and they make sure they are getting paid at every step. That is wrong, and its the reason behind the DeCSS lawsuits. Period. Anything else they try to make you believe is more of the same tactic to sway opinion and legal intreptation in their favor to ensure a continuation of their monopolistic powers.
- DeCSS is not the source code for an operating system.
- Transmeta is not shutting down and suing people over legal reverse engineering.
- Transmeta is not a giant entitiy with the power to lobby legal interpretation to suit their ends, and force their will with near absolute effect on consumers with regars to how, where, and when you can view their content.
These are BIIG differences, and they are the heart of the DeCSS issue. Transmeta has nothing to do with this.
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I just read Ian Joyners document. It can be summed up in one point.
C++ allows you to do bad things (if you dont know what your doing), and various other gripes about cosmetic details.
Whether this is bad or good is entirely subjective. There are cases where the 'dangerous' features mentioned are actually quite handy, and aid the deisgn of a given implementation. All of the pitfalls that Ian mentions are avoided by good programmers. The author is just biased towards a more rigid OO implementation such as Eifel or Java.
Abstraction is your god.
The advantage of well written C++ or well written code in general is the abstracted interface of functionality it provides. This gives the developer the ability to view and modify a system in an intuitive, abstracted manner. Back in the day of systems programming with C, this was done to a very small degree with libraries and such, but times change. Today's systems are growing larger and larger, and will continue to do so indefinately. When systems get large, the most valuable feature set to build within them is abstraction and scalability (closely related actually). For anyone who thinks C will always live, you may be right. It will always have its place for certain tasks. However, C++ will also have a very prominant position is future development as the need for powerful abstraction and flexibility is required in a language. (to some degree this includes Java and such, but this is a C++ thread)
Abstraction!
Then excersise your freedom to get off your ass and buy a software filter for your home use, and dont use any computer without it you whiney lamer. Please, get a clue, and quit trying to force your religious beliefs on everyone. Also note that half of the paragraph you wrote above was technically incorrect. You may have no self control and cant help staring at the nookie you will never get, but most people dont freak out over nekked bodies.
Genetic sequence indicating the probability of an NT server crashing under various loads.
Do you regurgitate everything you hear?
They are addictive in raw form when misused
And its not an anti depressant, true, but I said MISDIAGNOSED, and depression is a very common side effect of ADD.
Some of the symptoms he mentioned sounded quite similiar to ADD more than depression, so I suggested he check that angle if not already.
True, its mixed amphetamine salts, but roughly 75% dextro isomer, which enhances mental processes while produced very mild secondary stimulation. This is completely in accordance to treating the symptoms of ADD caused by lack of inhibitory neurons and too many dopamine receptors.
All of this is well documented, go read a book before you spout off unfounded bullshit.
As far as blocking non-porn sites, this is a non-issue. There is no right to have content seen anywhere just because you have web space
Yeah!! Fuck free speach! You dont have the right to say anything you want in public! only in your own home!!
Its people like you that scare me. Do you even think about what you are saying? The implications? Or does filter softer go with jesus and thats all that matters?
Then one day you come home, your little girl is nekked, tore the hell up. Raped and killed by some sick fuck, and hes never caught. Wait, 2 years later they catch him, but oops, technical mistake during prosecution and he gets off. Later he admits to it. NO double jepardy. Ah well, justice has been served.
And thank god for the scoring system.
Lets kill the fucking rapists.. They are sick fucks that need to die, and they will cause problems if they have their pr0n or not.
SO instead of implementing dumb ass stupid software that is pointless, lets form some non profit bigilante groups that persue sick fucks that rape and kill and webcast their brutal murders so that all the other sick fucks no they are hunted.
Wonder what kinda reduction that would give to sex crime.
Hell, i dont care. The entertainment value of crushing a child molesters skull in a vice grip would be worth it. period.
ahahaha.. suuuure. the place most kids get their pr0n is the store.
please.. i hope your being sarcastic.
In other countries you are blessed with children who will not succumb to the temptations of the flesh.
But here in the USA, if a child views pr0n, they become rabid flesh fanatics, fulfilling the plans of Satan as they indulge in evil pleasures and go on to rape and kill.
So, perhaps we just need to import children from other countries?
Ok, you sit down with your calculator and estimate the time it would take to manually index and approve even the smallest subsection of web content.
Ooops.
You didn't listen. Their filters DONT WORK. Period. You can get pr0n if you want. You can NOT get pr0n if you want. its all UP TO YOU! Sure, the filters may make it a little more difficult, but the people who want to see pr0n on the library computers ARE GOING TO SEE IT!
Now, what about all those unjustly censored sites? Because little timmy the pervert *grin* saw some nanny on the public library computer, it now has to be crippled needlessly for those who have no desire to look for pr0n? (meanwhile, timmy pulls up a new list of sites that arent blocked and laughs at all those fuming christians trying to get to their censorware website which is now blocked off)
Think about it. It makes no sense. If it does, then your either an avid christian fanatic (hey! your website is blocked!) or clueless. In either case your wrong, so open your eyes and get a clue.
You didn't listen. Ther filters DONT WORK. Period. You can get pr0n if you want. You can NOT get pr0n if you want. it all UP TO YOU! Sure, the filters may make it a little more difficult, but the people who want to see pr0n on the library computers ARE GOING TO SEE IT!
Now, what about all those unjustly censored sites? Because little timmy the pervert *grin* saw some nanny on the pubic library, er public, beg yer pardon, public library computer, it now has to be crippled needlessly for those who have no desire to look for pr0n? (meanwhile, timmy pulls up a new list of sites that arent blocked and laughs at all those fuming christians trying to get to their censorware website which is now blocked off)
Cmon man, that makes no sense. If it does, then your either an avid christian fanatic (hey! your website is blocked!) or clueless. In either case your wrong, so open your eyes and get a clue.
Have you sought help via chemical means? SSRI's, neural stimulants, etc?
adderall is a great anti depressant for those who have been misdiagnosed. Sounds like you depression may stem from an insufficient number of inhibitory neurons and too many dopamine receptors.
Check it out.
Can you have sex with your girlfriend for 20 hours straight?
;)
There's more to life than sitting in front of a computer, no matter what it's hooked up to
Of course, i never said there wasnt. But for some this may be the majority of their life, and I still insist that this is not a BAD THING.
Besides, I wish you'd get off the "well, it's better than boozing" thing
My only point with that statement was to highlight the fact that in all of the studies, such an activity would be considered harmless or even 'good'. While extensive net use is 'bad'. That rediculous no matter who you state it.
Unfortunately most people use it for chatting and buying things now, not for spending hours reading over the works of Bakunin or looking up information of different cultures
I disagree. Those who spend large amounts of time online are doing many other things than chatting or shopping. Those activities get old quick, and thus its the varied, and ever changing aspects of the net that keep it interesting, and thought provoking.
In some cases over use of the internet could be detrimental, but this is a very rare occurence. To generalize, and say that such use is ALWAYS or ALMOST ALWAYS detrimental to the individual and society is pure bullshit. period.
As for your argument that net users are not communicating with those around them, you may be correct. but they ARE communicating with those that may be thousands of miles distant, yet share a common interest. This provides a wide array of interactive conversations with perspectives that COULD NOT HAVE OCCURED in real life. Net communication is inherantly more pervasive, more available, and more distributed than regular voice communication. This is a tremendous bonus.
I spend near every waking moment in front of a CRT. I actually work, but I code, so I am there in front of one all day, cranking out code. Rarely there will be a meeting.. but thats 40-50 hours actually there in front of one just for work. (Obviously connected to the net)
Then I get home, and I code and work on other computer projects.. same for the weekend. That adds up to about 80+ hours per week.
I cant think of anything else as stimulating and satisfying as computer work (code, design, etc)
Sure, I could go shoot some pool and whatnot.. but, why?
For those who truly enjoy technology and the unlimited possibilites it provides, that big blue room is rather pale and boring in comparison. Nothing wrong with some real world activites every know and then, by by and large Id much rather spend my time elsewhere.
Who cares if people are spending more time on the net and less with other pursuits (including people).
They have found a valuable resource that is growing with content every second. There are far worse places to be, and to each his own.
I find it hard to imagine that exploring a world of varied information could be detrimental while slamming a few drinks at the bar is 'good' for you.
What importance do you see the CORBA standard playing in the C++ future?
Are you involved with CORBA and C++ designs and development to any degree?
This was about trademarks. And apple probably has an inflexible policy that all trademark infringement has to be challenged. They dont care about the look and feel which is obviously cloned in similiar themes which did not have the apple logo (This has been stated). One of the uses of a trademark is to identifier the producer of a product. Sure, apple *might* have let this slide, which would have been a decent thing to do; but what about users that may have been under the impression that Apple had actually created and approved the theme? I think this was a good idea.. It really isnt about copyright infringement, which *may* cover some of the movie and people themes. And it sounds like once the logo is removed the theme should be fine.
I am actually make a living scamming tech companies to let me play on their phat ass enterprise boxen. They need code written, which is what I do for play, so I write their code, jammin to cool tunes.. getting paid mad dollars by the hour, and then I go home and play on more phat boxen.
Ahhh.. Hack the system.
t's those who use it to mass produce illegal DVDs hat is the real problem
This has nothing to do with the legality of the DeCSS source code (Except for the fact that the MPAA is tyring to make you THINK it is). Nothing. Period. Big DVD pirate shops dont even need to decode the data first. Its digital data. To make a copy, all you have to do is copy the data.
All this is about CONTROL. The MPAA wants to CONTROL how, when, and where you can view the content. and they make sure they are getting paid at every step. That is wrong, and its the reason behind the DeCSS lawsuits. Period. Anything else they try to make you believe is more of the same tactic to sway opinion and legal intreptation in their favor to ensure a continuation of their monopolistic powers.
You are making a parrallel that doesn not apply.
- DeCSS is not the source code for an operating system.
- Transmeta is not shutting down and suing people over legal reverse engineering.
- Transmeta is not a giant entitiy with the power to lobby legal interpretation to suit their ends, and force their will with near absolute effect on consumers with regars to how, where, and when you can view their content.
These are BIIG differences, and they are the heart of the DeCSS issue. Transmeta has nothing to do with this.
lol.. your funny man.
stop trying to act like you have something intelligble.
While I may not agree with what she said, and I never said I did agree 100%, your still a fucking cocksucka..
that was my only point.