I disagree, when the law is inadequate, it it time to change the law. Would you really want a system where the law never adapted to the modern world? She contributed to someone's death, the fact that she did it over the internet is irrelevant. She had intent to harass, and harassment is illegal, so, all things considered, I think she should be punished for her actions.
Still, the point stands. Less guns in general in a society means less people getting shot.
And probably more getting stabbed, ect. Violence predates the gun by a good long time, I highly doubt removing a particular weapon will put a stop to that.
This behaviour actually makes terrorists look civilised.
You're saying stonings and beheadings are more civilized that inmate violence? Actually I think you may be right. It would be more humane to just execute the violent ones and get it over with (not necessarily with stonings). Better than having them locked up for decades to come, much better for the nonviolent criminals, cheaper, and no chance of them hurting someone else (which, as anyone who reads the paper can tell, is not uncommon). Of course, that's not as politically correct as dancing and a circle and convincing yourself that this time the homicidal wackos won't try to kill anyone.
Stop using M$ crap, it has been shown to cause brain rot
On an unrelated note, offtopic, obsessive, and exaggerated Microsoft bashing, as well as spelling MS as M$, happens to be a surefire sign of brain rot. Are you the one called Twitter, whom I have read so much about?
It's more like 10%, with the rest being split between skill/intelligence and perseverance/hard work
For very large values of 10? Sorry, but looking at the history of most very successful people, I beg to differ. For example, the summary mentions Bill Gates. His dad was loaded, his mom got his school an early computer to play with, he got into the right part of the business at the right time, and he generally had good fortune. Do you really think we'd have Microsoft if Gates hadn't been, well, lucky? I'm not saying he didn't work hard, find opportunities, and use skill, and I'm not saying hard work won't take one far, but to get into the big leagues, it would appear that Lady Luck has a tendency to be a key player in the stories of most very successful people.
1) Buck v. Bell didn't teach you much, did it? 2) I must have missed the memo, when was Lamarckian evolution proven? You know, maybe people who are too stupid to bone up on history and basic genetic/social sciences are the ones who are screwing up evolution.
I would argue that your first point is confusing classism for racism. De facto classism is definitely a problem in America, and one that has a tendency to hit minorities, but, though still bad, it is not racism. As for the second, I've heard varying numbers on that one, some supporting and some rejecting, so I admit you may have a point there, or it could be a symptom of classist schools, or it could be more bad statistics. That's a complex issue I for one don't know enough about to comment on.
Do you think that MLK living today wouldn't speak the exact same words about Iraq as he spoke back then about Vietnam?
Yeah, MLK probably would (and look at our economy/foreign relations, he'd be right). But again, there's a big difference between saying doing bad things will hurt us and 'God damn America!!!!1!' for something that already happened/isn't currently happening.
Strawman both. Yeah, mothers can die without an abortion, but that is the extreme minority of cases, and the ration of those to unnecessary abortions makes them more or less negligible, and certainly not a talking point. Ditto with the killing of 'doctors.'
Here's the difference: America didn't have institutionalized racism when Wright said it, and it can be argued that MLK would have been right had America not changed (racism is very un-capitalist). I think there's a bit of a difference between saying 'your sin will find you out' and jumping up and down screaming that 'God's gonna git you' for something that hasn't happened in decades.
Makes me wonder how the election would have turned out if McCain would have been the one who keep shouting HOPE and CHANGE and other bullshit phrases that don't mean anything just to get elected. Apparently, it was a good tactic.
McCain just too much risk of Palin becoming president
Honest question: Why is that so bad? I've heard people go on and on ad nauseam about how she's supposedly some horrible right-wing nutjob, but what exactly makes her so terrible or rather, what makes her worse that the others?
No, Ivy League education makes you sound elitist. The vast majority of ivy students get in on money, so it is not unreasonable to associate a Harvard degree with elitism.
I'm a republican, who did not vote for Obama, but even suggesting that kind of nonsense is irritating to me. Like it or not he is our President and to even hint or suggest that could happen is just plain Ignorant.
How is it ignorant to wonder how this is going to turn out? They already arrested some neo-nazi asshole who planed on it. I personally don't believe in that whole shtick about white people not voting Obama because we're all closet racists, but there still are, in fact, crazy racist fringe groups floating around, and I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility of one of them taking a crack at Obama.
The AC is right. If you've ever read anything about/from MLK, you'd know that he's the very definition of a peaceful Christian, and I'd bet my left nut that he'd have a beef with anyone who said 'God damn America.' MLK got more ass kickings and put up with more racist crap for standing up for what's right than Wright ever has, and yet who was foaming at the mouth about the ebil white man? If you think Dr. King would have gone for that, all I can say is go read a book.
Makes me wonder if we can finally do away with race based affirmative action now. I personally can't wait to watch people stop saying 'Obama raised himself up from nothing' and start saying 'Obama was actually privileged all along, so we still need it.'
I mean, it's not a mistake that we have a yale graduate who pretends to be a simple-minded cowboy, is it?
Legacy+Money>Intellect
Also, I would imagine as many, if not more, people are voting for McCain on account of the color of his skin.
Do you have any proof of this? (Note: That was a rhetorical question; I know you don't have any. Those idiots who keep accusing people who don't vote Obama of racism have their heads too far up their asses to notice no one cares that Obama is black. Those of us who aren't voting for him are doing so because we don't like his stance of various issues, not because we've all suddenly become racists. The only people I've seen who drag race into this are the Obama supporters, who hope that if they can cry racist long enough, they'll convince people they're racist if they vote McCain and sway their votes [see Big Lie tactic]. Now, I've seen people vote Obama because they want a black man as president, but of course, that is perfectly fine, as racism only works one way )
Basically, the big bru-ha-ha is that he was saying we've done bad things and are not angels and in general blacks have to disproportionally deal with crap that whites do not.
Yeah, affirmative action's a bitch, huh? What are you smoking and where can I get some? Tell me, what do blacks have to deal with that whites don't? Where is the vast white supremacist conspiracy? Where is the supporting evidence that indicates something is holding blacks back (besides the 'gangsta' culture and the idea that any black person who gets an education is an 'oreo'). Yeah, there were racial issues once upon a time, and only idiots deny that those have an effect today, but with each passing moment that effect becomes less and less a result of the racial issues of 30+ years ago. Yeah, whites oppressed blacks once, that sucked, it would have been nice if the white of the day weren't such assholes, but that was several generations ago, many people alive today were not a part of it, get over stuff that never happened to you.
He's done the sin of not saying 'we are perfect and fair'.
We're not all sunshine and lollipops? No shit. Ever take a look at the economic diversity of higher education? It is heavily skewed toward the upper class. There's an issue, why isn't Wright trying to solve that? That question was rhetorical, the answer is because all he doesn't give a damn about fairness and equality, his only concern is his imaginary white conspiracy (like the big bad white government somehow inventing AIDS with technology they couldn't possibly have had then, and probably don't have now). Maybe if he'd stuck to reality, people wouldn't be calling BS on his asshattery.
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I disagree, when the law is inadequate, it it time to change the law. Would you really want a system where the law never adapted to the modern world? She contributed to someone's death, the fact that she did it over the internet is irrelevant. She had intent to harass, and harassment is illegal, so, all things considered, I think she should be punished for her actions.
Still, the point stands. Less guns in general in a society means less people getting shot.
And probably more getting stabbed, ect. Violence predates the gun by a good long time, I highly doubt removing a particular weapon will put a stop to that.
will they be installing everyone else with RFID readers>?
Eventually. The boiling frog may not work literally, but it makes a great metaphor.
This behaviour actually makes terrorists look civilised.
You're saying stonings and beheadings are more civilized that inmate violence? Actually I think you may be right. It would be more humane to just execute the violent ones and get it over with (not necessarily with stonings). Better than having them locked up for decades to come, much better for the nonviolent criminals, cheaper, and no chance of them hurting someone else (which, as anyone who reads the paper can tell, is not uncommon). Of course, that's not as politically correct as dancing and a circle and convincing yourself that this time the homicidal wackos won't try to kill anyone.
Stop using M$ crap, it has been shown to cause brain rot
On an unrelated note, offtopic, obsessive, and exaggerated Microsoft bashing, as well as spelling MS as M$, happens to be a surefire sign of brain rot. Are you the one called Twitter, whom I have read so much about?
Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. -Barry Switzer
It's more like 10%, with the rest being split between skill/intelligence and perseverance/hard work
For very large values of 10? Sorry, but looking at the history of most very successful people, I beg to differ. For example, the summary mentions Bill Gates. His dad was loaded, his mom got his school an early computer to play with, he got into the right part of the business at the right time, and he generally had good fortune. Do you really think we'd have Microsoft if Gates hadn't been, well, lucky? I'm not saying he didn't work hard, find opportunities, and use skill, and I'm not saying hard work won't take one far, but to get into the big leagues, it would appear that Lady Luck has a tendency to be a key player in the stories of most very successful people.
Worse yet, we let them pro-create.
1) Buck v. Bell didn't teach you much, did it?
2) I must have missed the memo, when was Lamarckian evolution proven?
You know, maybe people who are too stupid to bone up on history and basic genetic/social sciences are the ones who are screwing up evolution.
I would argue that your first point is confusing classism for racism. De facto classism is definitely a problem in America, and one that has a tendency to hit minorities, but, though still bad, it is not racism. As for the second, I've heard varying numbers on that one, some supporting and some rejecting, so I admit you may have a point there, or it could be a symptom of classist schools, or it could be more bad statistics. That's a complex issue I for one don't know enough about to comment on.
Do you think that MLK living today wouldn't speak the exact same words about Iraq as he spoke back then about Vietnam?
Yeah, MLK probably would (and look at our economy/foreign relations, he'd be right). But again, there's a big difference between saying doing bad things will hurt us and 'God damn America!!!!1!' for something that already happened/isn't currently happening.
Strawman: taking an extreme case, and arguing against that instead of the actual issue.
Well, besides affirmative action, no. Can you cite any actual modern institutional racism?
Strawman both. Yeah, mothers can die without an abortion, but that is the extreme minority of cases, and the ration of those to unnecessary abortions makes them more or less negligible, and certainly not a talking point. Ditto with the killing of 'doctors.'
Here's the difference: America didn't have institutionalized racism when Wright said it, and it can be argued that MLK would have been right had America not changed (racism is very un-capitalist). I think there's a bit of a difference between saying 'your sin will find you out' and jumping up and down screaming that 'God's gonna git you' for something that hasn't happened in decades.
Obama just got away with telling bigger lies
Makes me wonder how the election would have turned out if McCain would have been the one who keep shouting HOPE and CHANGE and other bullshit phrases that don't mean anything just to get elected. Apparently, it was a good tactic.
'Anti-choice' VP? Nice wording. You say pro-life like it's a bad thing.
McCain just too much risk of Palin becoming president
Honest question: Why is that so bad? I've heard people go on and on ad nauseam about how she's supposedly some horrible right-wing nutjob, but what exactly makes her so terrible or rather, what makes her worse that the others?
Higher education made you an "elitist."
No, Ivy League education makes you sound elitist. The vast majority of ivy students get in on money, so it is not unreasonable to associate a Harvard degree with elitism.
I voted McCain! Maybe we should all get together in 2012 and write in Kodos, just to see what happens.
I'm a republican, who did not vote for Obama, but even suggesting that kind of nonsense is irritating to me. Like it or not he is our President and to even hint or suggest that could happen is just plain Ignorant.
How is it ignorant to wonder how this is going to turn out? They already arrested some neo-nazi asshole who planed on it. I personally don't believe in that whole shtick about white people not voting Obama because we're all closet racists, but there still are, in fact, crazy racist fringe groups floating around, and I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility of one of them taking a crack at Obama.
The AC is right. If you've ever read anything about/from MLK, you'd know that he's the very definition of a peaceful Christian, and I'd bet my left nut that he'd have a beef with anyone who said 'God damn America.' MLK got more ass kickings and put up with more racist crap for standing up for what's right than Wright ever has, and yet who was foaming at the mouth about the ebil white man? If you think Dr. King would have gone for that, all I can say is go read a book.
Makes me wonder if we can finally do away with race based affirmative action now. I personally can't wait to watch people stop saying 'Obama raised himself up from nothing' and start saying 'Obama was actually privileged all along, so we still need it.'
I mean, it's not a mistake that we have a yale graduate who pretends to be a simple-minded cowboy, is it?
Legacy+Money>Intellect
Also, I would imagine as many, if not more, people are voting for McCain on account of the color of his skin.
Do you have any proof of this? (Note: That was a rhetorical question; I know you don't have any. Those idiots who keep accusing people who don't vote Obama of racism have their heads too far up their asses to notice no one cares that Obama is black. Those of us who aren't voting for him are doing so because we don't like his stance of various issues, not because we've all suddenly become racists. The only people I've seen who drag race into this are the Obama supporters, who hope that if they can cry racist long enough, they'll convince people they're racist if they vote McCain and sway their votes [see Big Lie tactic]. Now, I've seen people vote Obama because they want a black man as president, but of course, that is perfectly fine, as racism only works one way )
Basically, the big bru-ha-ha is that he was saying we've done bad things and are not angels and in general blacks have to disproportionally deal with crap that whites do not.
Yeah, affirmative action's a bitch, huh? What are you smoking and where can I get some? Tell me, what do blacks have to deal with that whites don't? Where is the vast white supremacist conspiracy? Where is the supporting evidence that indicates something is holding blacks back (besides the 'gangsta' culture and the idea that any black person who gets an education is an 'oreo'). Yeah, there were racial issues once upon a time, and only idiots deny that those have an effect today, but with each passing moment that effect becomes less and less a result of the racial issues of 30+ years ago. Yeah, whites oppressed blacks once, that sucked, it would have been nice if the white of the day weren't such assholes, but that was several generations ago, many people alive today were not a part of it, get over stuff that never happened to you.
He's done the sin of not saying 'we are perfect and fair'.
We're not all sunshine and lollipops? No shit. Ever take a look at the economic diversity of higher education? It is heavily skewed toward the upper class. There's an issue, why isn't Wright trying to solve that? That question was rhetorical, the answer is because all he doesn't give a damn about fairness and equality, his only concern is his imaginary white conspiracy (like the big bad white government somehow inventing AIDS with technology they couldn't possibly have had then, and probably don't have now). Maybe if he'd stuck to reality, people wouldn't be calling BS on his asshattery.
Is this much different from the fundamentalist Christain view that women belong in the home
Fundamentalist Christians like Palin? Yep, them fundies sure like to keep women stuck in the home.