So theres 1 tower, they can go - oh xxx-yyy-zzzz is at Tower XCD1, within 410 yards. Look up...he has a green Mazada and his billing address is 1234 whatever lane. 1234 whatever lane is within 410 yards of the tower! Get him!
"I call BS (or at the very least - you didn't know the whole story) - I have an IT friend (who is union)."
I was there, I found the evidence on the computers, I had to do the forensic work, I was the one that worked with the cops and I was the one that presented it to the administration and all that good stuff.
So...all I have to do by is what I witnessed and experienced.
"Elected and appointed leaders always do better with fear than reverence."
Ivan wasn't elected or appointed, I skipped over Mugabe because he came into power through a revolution and the elections since 1978 haven't been all that open.
I skipped over a ton of dictators, kings, queens, etc because I wanted to focus on elected or appointed (Octavian) leaders who lead and kept power through fear.
As for LBJ, what did he run on against Goldwater? Yes, Goldwater will get us nuked. Thats more running on FUD than anything Bush/Cheney and the GOP did. On that note, Nixon could have gotten us all universal health care if the Dems had wanted to work with him something that was noted as Ted Kennedy's one political regret, not working with Nixon on health care.
No, people should be paid by merit, not through collective bargaining.
Example, I worked as I said in a school district which is unionized, best I could hope for is CoL and a step, so 5-7% raise a year. Best friend works in IT at a non-union joint with merit pay, he can look forward to CoL and merit pay, even in this economy he is getting 11% more this year.
Besides, unions disrupt public services, medical care and in western Europe where unions are very strong, totally disrupt society when they decide to throw a tantrum.
"I suspect you may not know as much of what you're talking about as you think you do."
Thats exactly the message that came down when I complained that the Union should let me leave and become a salary worker because then I could get fair market wages.
I was in a school district, all the records are public so there was no danger of "the boss cannot unfairly hand out wages to his friends", your post is a check list of why unions think they should exist which has nothing to do with the real world anymore.
I'm shocked there wasn't some quotes from the Jungle in your post.
I think that older Constitutions are out there, San Marino comes to mind, but good point. Not all the Founders of the US were slavers, only a few were.
Well, I moaned about them because I was in one during the late 1990s. Yes its a "labor union" but honestly there was never any sweatshop or mine work in the schools.
Unions in the United States don't have to have secret ballots, so the can blacklist you and harass you. Boy I wish I had my emails that went back and forth when I formally requested to get a salary job with the district and leave the union. I was called a rabble-rouser and stooge of the district and I replied that they were "blood sucking communists", then they called my desk phone and chewed me out for 10 minutes, they being the head of the union in Oregon.
My experience, working with an education union in Oregon.
Suppress wages - I did IT, the school district was bound to make me an hourly worker by labor agreement with the Union, the Union that represented us was the union for school workers, janitors, secretaries, cafeteria workers. So yes, my wages were suppressed, I couldn't leave the union, couldn't get step pay raises because of education or certification, just by putting time in.
Defend the inept - Having the Union defend a coworker that threatened other coworkers (he talked about bringing a gun in if we didn't treat him better, to a school), tell me not to testify against another Union member who was accused of surfing child p0rn on an elementary school computer, oh it was grand.
Petty crap during "bargaining" years - Teachers union are "bargaining" so they all park in front of school district office, where a number of members of another union work, vandalize cars during work hours. I worked in administration for years and they never did anything like that.
Strong arming members - No secret ballots, blacklisting people who vote against what the union wants for a contract or strike vote, pressure to vote in State and Federal elections for the union's preferred candidate, etc. If you belong to a Teachers Union in the US, just try and vote against what the union wants, and they know who you are because you had to show your union card when you turn in your ballot.
WIPO is enforced because we belong to the UN, so by joining the UN, the US joined WIPO
The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is one of the 16 specialized agencies of the United Nations. WIPO was created in 1967 "to encourage creative activity, to promote the protection of intellectual property throughout the world."
Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, includes the Treaty Clause, which empowers the President of the United States to make treaties with other countries, after obtaining the consent of a supermajority of the United States Senate.
"In the United States, the term "treaty" is used in a more restricted legal sense than in international law. U.S. law distinguishes what it calls treaties from congressional-executive agreements and sole-executive agreements. All three classes are considered treaties under international law; they are distinct only from the perspective of internal United States law. The distinctions are primarily concerning their method of ratification: by two-thirds of the Senate, by normal legislative process, or by the President alone, respectively. The Treaty Clause also has a somewhat different impact on domestic U.S. law, as compared to congressional-executive agreements and sole executive agreements.
Currently, international agreements are executed by executive agreement rather than treaties at a rate of 10:1. Despite the relative ease of executive agreements, the President still often chooses to pursue the formal treaty process over an executive agreement in order to gain congressional support on matters that require the Congress to pass implementing legislation or appropriate funds, and those agreements that impose long-term, complex legal obligations on the U.S."
"The answer is of course, that it would be best to be both loved and feared. But since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved."
Elected and appointed leaders always do better with fear than reverence. Octavian, Hitler, Nixon, LBJ, W are five quick ones that come to mind. I'm sure that the bulk of western elected leaders from 1946-1990 used fear, but three that stand out for me are Nixon, LBJ (for the Goldwater ad alone) and W, excuse me for missing anyone, recovering from long weekend.
In reading about the formation of our solar system, I bet that the building blocks of life in this solar system and anything else that formed out of the nebula we probably came from, are all the same.
My money is on the DNA from whatever is on Mars, Europa, Titan...are all going to be the same as Earth.
Don't know much about Central and South American prisons huh? Check out the third season of Prison Break for a "PG" fictionalization of them, there are a few documentaries floating around about them on channels like History and National Geographic.
Even the worst US prison is better than being down there.
And since this guy is going to a Federal Prison, it won't be too bad, minimum or medium security, probably one of the Federal Prison medical centers, like Rochester MN where he'll be treated by the staff of the Mayo Clinic on the Federal Government's dime.
It was a US Marine plane. A USMC EA-6B Prowler, BuNo 163045, from VMAQ-2 caused the Cavalese cable-car disaster on 3 February 1998, accidentally cutting the cables of a ski-lift in Italy during a low level flight in mountainous terrain and killing 20 civilians.
"Italian prosecutors wanted the four Marines to stand trial in Italy, but an Italian court recognized that NATO treaties gave jurisdiction to U.S. military courts. They stood trial, were found not guilty and the pilot and copilot were kicked out of the Marines. One served time in military prison.
The two men were court-martialed a second time for obstruction of justice and conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman, because they had destroyed a videotape recorded from the plane on the day of the accident. They were found guilty in May 1999; both were dismissed from the service and the pilot received a six month prison term. He was released after four and a half months for good behavior.
By February 1999, the victims' families had received $65,000 per victim as immediate help by the Italian government, which was reimbursed by the U.S. government. In May 1999, the U.S. Congress rejected a bill that would have set up a $40 million compensation fund for the victims. In December 1999, the Italian legislature approved a monetary compensation plan for the families ($1.9 million per victim). NATO treaties obliged the US government to pay 75% of this compensation, which it did."
So...Italy let them go, there were trials, one was found guilty of something, tossed in prison, career destroyed, felon, all that and the families got 1.965 million US each.
700k of damages would be 700,000 dollars worth of meetings, reviews, reports and studies about what happened, why it happened and how to keep it from happening again. Plus the time of the investigation.
US Supreme Court decides if its Cruel and Unusual.
In Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238 (1972), Justice Brennan wrote, "There are, then, four principles by which we may determine whether a particular punishment is 'cruel and unusual'." The "essential predicate" is "that a punishment must not by its severity be degrading to human dignity," especially torture. "A severe punishment that is obviously inflicted in wholly arbitrary fashion." "A severe punishment that is clearly and totally rejected throughout society." "A severe punishment that is patently unnecessary."
"Thanks to actions taken by Nazi Germany almost 70 years ago, eugenics is a dirty word in most of the world today. But, eugenics actually makes sense. If this fool is defective, then those defective genes should be flushed from the gene pool."
Slippery slope there, to flush those genes we need to remove brothers/sisters, first cousins, children, and what else? Mother and father too?
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They will know what tower you are on.
So theres 1 tower, they can go - oh xxx-yyy-zzzz is at Tower XCD1, within 410 yards. Look up...he has a green Mazada and his billing address is 1234 whatever lane. 1234 whatever lane is within 410 yards of the tower! Get him!
They can still get you through cell tower triangulation.
Well since Google bends over backwards for the People's Republic, I'm sure that when the Feds push it they will do whatever the Feds want.
I trust the Feds more than Google, at least with the Feds there is a chance at court, not with Google.
Yes I was.
"I call BS (or at the very least - you didn't know the whole story) - I have an IT friend (who is union)."
I was there, I found the evidence on the computers, I had to do the forensic work, I was the one that worked with the cops and I was the one that presented it to the administration and all that good stuff.
So...all I have to do by is what I witnessed and experienced.
Elected.
"Elected and appointed leaders always do better with fear than reverence."
Ivan wasn't elected or appointed, I skipped over Mugabe because he came into power through a revolution and the elections since 1978 haven't been all that open.
I skipped over a ton of dictators, kings, queens, etc because I wanted to focus on elected or appointed (Octavian) leaders who lead and kept power through fear.
As for LBJ, what did he run on against Goldwater? Yes, Goldwater will get us nuked. Thats more running on FUD than anything Bush/Cheney and the GOP did. On that note, Nixon could have gotten us all universal health care if the Dems had wanted to work with him something that was noted as Ted Kennedy's one political regret, not working with Nixon on health care.
No, people should be paid by merit, not through collective bargaining.
Example, I worked as I said in a school district which is unionized, best I could hope for is CoL and a step, so 5-7% raise a year. Best friend works in IT at a non-union joint with merit pay, he can look forward to CoL and merit pay, even in this economy he is getting 11% more this year.
Besides, unions disrupt public services, medical care and in western Europe where unions are very strong, totally disrupt society when they decide to throw a tantrum.
"I suspect you may not know as much of what you're talking about as you think you do."
Thats exactly the message that came down when I complained that the Union should let me leave and become a salary worker because then I could get fair market wages.
I was in a school district, all the records are public so there was no danger of "the boss cannot unfairly hand out wages to his friends", your post is a check list of why unions think they should exist which has nothing to do with the real world anymore.
I'm shocked there wasn't some quotes from the Jungle in your post.
Oregon School Employees Association which is part of the American Association of Classified School Employees.
I think that older Constitutions are out there, San Marino comes to mind, but good point. Not all the Founders of the US were slavers, only a few were.
Well, I moaned about them because I was in one during the late 1990s. Yes its a "labor union" but honestly there was never any sweatshop or mine work in the schools.
Unions in the United States don't have to have secret ballots, so the can blacklist you and harass you. Boy I wish I had my emails that went back and forth when I formally requested to get a salary job with the district and leave the union. I was called a rabble-rouser and stooge of the district and I replied that they were "blood sucking communists", then they called my desk phone and chewed me out for 10 minutes, they being the head of the union in Oregon.
My experience, working with an education union in Oregon.
Suppress wages - I did IT, the school district was bound to make me an hourly worker by labor agreement with the Union, the Union that represented us was the union for school workers, janitors, secretaries, cafeteria workers. So yes, my wages were suppressed, I couldn't leave the union, couldn't get step pay raises because of education or certification, just by putting time in.
Defend the inept - Having the Union defend a coworker that threatened other coworkers (he talked about bringing a gun in if we didn't treat him better, to a school), tell me not to testify against another Union member who was accused of surfing child p0rn on an elementary school computer, oh it was grand.
Petty crap during "bargaining" years - Teachers union are "bargaining" so they all park in front of school district office, where a number of members of another union work, vandalize cars during work hours. I worked in administration for years and they never did anything like that.
Strong arming members - No secret ballots, blacklisting people who vote against what the union wants for a contract or strike vote, pressure to vote in State and Federal elections for the union's preferred candidate, etc. If you belong to a Teachers Union in the US, just try and vote against what the union wants, and they know who you are because you had to show your union card when you turn in your ballot.
From my experience with unions, yea there are good reasons not to have an IT union.
Suppress wages, defend the inept, petty crap during "bargaining" years, strong arming members, and take money away for political purposes.
I was in a couple unions, two for IT in the public sector, I'm not a fan.
No, the US Senate has to ratify the treaty.
WIPO is enforced because we belong to the UN, so by joining the UN, the US joined WIPO
The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) is one of the 16 specialized agencies of the United Nations. WIPO was created in 1967 "to encourage creative activity, to promote the protection of intellectual property throughout the world."
Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, includes the Treaty Clause, which empowers the President of the United States to make treaties with other countries, after obtaining the consent of a supermajority of the United States Senate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_Clause
"In the United States, the term "treaty" is used in a more restricted legal sense than in international law. U.S. law distinguishes what it calls treaties from congressional-executive agreements and sole-executive agreements. All three classes are considered treaties under international law; they are distinct only from the perspective of internal United States law. The distinctions are primarily concerning their method of ratification: by two-thirds of the Senate, by normal legislative process, or by the President alone, respectively. The Treaty Clause also has a somewhat different impact on domestic U.S. law, as compared to congressional-executive agreements and sole executive agreements.
Currently, international agreements are executed by executive agreement rather than treaties at a rate of 10:1. Despite the relative ease of executive agreements, the President still often chooses to pursue the formal treaty process over an executive agreement in order to gain congressional support on matters that require the Congress to pass implementing legislation or appropriate funds, and those agreements that impose long-term, complex legal obligations on the U.S."
"The answer is of course, that it would be best to be both loved and feared. But since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved."
Elected and appointed leaders always do better with fear than reverence. Octavian, Hitler, Nixon, LBJ, W are five quick ones that come to mind. I'm sure that the bulk of western elected leaders from 1946-1990 used fear, but three that stand out for me are Nixon, LBJ (for the Goldwater ad alone) and W, excuse me for missing anyone, recovering from long weekend.
In reading about the formation of our solar system, I bet that the building blocks of life in this solar system and anything else that formed out of the nebula we probably came from, are all the same.
My money is on the DNA from whatever is on Mars, Europa, Titan...are all going to be the same as Earth.
If he can't do the time, he shouldn't have done the time.
As for the time he might serve, thats for the courts and appeals courts to decide, not us.
US Federal Prisons are not "for-profit".
Don't know much about Central and South American prisons huh? Check out the third season of Prison Break for a "PG" fictionalization of them, there are a few documentaries floating around about them on channels like History and National Geographic.
Even the worst US prison is better than being down there.
And since this guy is going to a Federal Prison, it won't be too bad, minimum or medium security, probably one of the Federal Prison medical centers, like Rochester MN where he'll be treated by the staff of the Mayo Clinic on the Federal Government's dime.
It was a US Marine plane. A USMC EA-6B Prowler, BuNo 163045, from VMAQ-2 caused the Cavalese cable-car disaster on 3 February 1998, accidentally cutting the cables of a ski-lift in Italy during a low level flight in mountainous terrain and killing 20 civilians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalese_cable-car_disaster
"Italian prosecutors wanted the four Marines to stand trial in Italy, but an Italian court recognized that NATO treaties gave jurisdiction to U.S. military courts. They stood trial, were found not guilty and the pilot and copilot were kicked out of the Marines. One served time in military prison.
The two men were court-martialed a second time for obstruction of justice and conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman, because they had destroyed a videotape recorded from the plane on the day of the accident. They were found guilty in May 1999; both were dismissed from the service and the pilot received a six month prison term. He was released after four and a half months for good behavior.
By February 1999, the victims' families had received $65,000 per victim as immediate help by the Italian government, which was reimbursed by the U.S. government. In May 1999, the U.S. Congress rejected a bill that would have set up a $40 million compensation fund for the victims. In December 1999, the Italian legislature approved a monetary compensation plan for the families ($1.9 million per victim). NATO treaties obliged the US government to pay 75% of this compensation, which it did."
So...Italy let them go, there were trials, one was found guilty of something, tossed in prison, career destroyed, felon, all that and the families got 1.965 million US each.
700k of damages would be 700,000 dollars worth of meetings, reviews, reports and studies about what happened, why it happened and how to keep it from happening again. Plus the time of the investigation.
US Supreme Court decides if its Cruel and Unusual.
In Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238 (1972), Justice Brennan wrote, "There are, then, four principles by which we may determine whether a particular punishment is 'cruel and unusual'."
The "essential predicate" is "that a punishment must not by its severity be degrading to human dignity," especially torture.
"A severe punishment that is obviously inflicted in wholly arbitrary fashion."
"A severe punishment that is clearly and totally rejected throughout society."
"A severe punishment that is patently unnecessary."
A mild schizophrenia?
Good way to label 97.5% of the people on the planet.
This place's original title was - Chips and Dips - back in '97 when I first came across the place.
"Thanks to actions taken by Nazi Germany almost 70 years ago, eugenics is a dirty word in most of the world today. But, eugenics actually makes sense. If this fool is defective, then those defective genes should be flushed from the gene pool."
Slippery slope there, to flush those genes we need to remove brothers/sisters, first cousins, children, and what else? Mother and father too?