Really? I guess I will have to tell that to the users I deal with every day who are still confused over the concept of opening a tab in Firefox.
Mouse gestures aren't even on the map. Inability or all out fear of installing a program (thanks to idiotic mainstream tech reporters).. now there is a problem for Chrome.
>> Yes, it's easy to make fun of people who don't understand how email addresses work ("srjc@whatever.com isn't from the school? I don't get it. And yes, I'll email you my bank login and password..."), but the reality is that there are still people who just don't get the difference.
Yes, and they're the ones who are wrong in this situation. They're the one who want to use the Internet but can't be bothered to learn what the (in this case very simple) rules and conventions are.
If there are people that are actually doing this as a fraud then I'm fine with going after them... however no matter what number of people you sent this letter to the VAST MAJORITY are doing nothing wrong at all.
You've decided to cause trouble for a large number of people because your institution is being slightly troubled. Sorry... it doesn't seem right to me.
This isn't insightful. I did an ubuntu install this week in under and hour and it does ALL these things. Writer of the parent is totally lazy or a troll.
yeah. good luck with that. Most people won't see how it personally benefits them or their family and say no. We are well past the age where we can expect joe blow to have the foresight to sacrifice anything for people he doesn't know.
This is the product of their own massive failure. They have abused their customer service and tech support people for years and caused massive turnover and burnout in their domestic staff and then completely forsake them and give them to foreign offices that make the tech support problem for their customers worse. Even more, some companies actually want their tech support and CSRs to fail, not giving them the tools or the information they need to provide good service so the bigwigs can do a CYA move when something goes wrong (I have been in this situation personally!)
The fact that their customers have to go to unpaid outsiders in order to get anything to work is shameful and they shouldn't be bragging about it. Give good wages and get good people and make sure their life isn't miserable by providing a good service and giving them the all information and tools they need to provide good service and this sort of thing wouldn't happen.
Also, basic reading into corporate personhood reveal that SCOTUS never even directly ruled on this idea. It's been accepted as fact ever since a clerk wrote a footnote into a ruling that said "The supreme court sees corporations as persons" or the like.
Someday, hopefully someone with a bankbook can work on challenging this and ACTUALLY getting it to the supreme court... when that court isn't full of corporate shills like Alito. I'm sure this "Strict Consitutionalist" won't remember that consitution writers didn't trust corporations (because of their dealings with the East India company) and were opposed of handing out corporate charters that didn't expire after a given period of time.
Most people living today don't know the basic fact that corporations are "legal fictions" that require the government to exist. Corporations to many these days are some magical category that somehow exist on their own, and until we have a corporate rule type situation that the cyberpunk authors like to write about then we corporations really do require a government to issue them a charter.
I don't know if we have laws that make it hard to revoke a corporate charter, but if we do legislators can write laws to change that (good luck as corporate lobbyists have so much influence). Revoking a corporation's charter is the death penalty as applied to corporations and it has been an option that has been forgotten about. However, if you believe that certain persons are such a menace that capitol punishment is called for, how could you throw the same option away when it comes to corporations that are a menace to society or show themselves unable to follow the common law?
We ought to start thinking as a country about revocation of corporate charters.
Does anyone else besides me see the common practice of coming to a settlement with no admission that the corporation did anything wrong is a really, really bad thing.
I don't know if the fact that this is tacked on to every major settlement has to do with the fact that these corporations are massive concentrations of power and money that the legal systems aren't designed to deal with or if it's just greedy plaintiffs or a combination of both.
If we could get companies to actually admit guilt in some of these cases, would it head off crap like this anyways?
The Mac's marketshare is (still) microscopic and irrelevent, and not even growing significantly (in fact, I think marketshare may have fallen, but I'm not up on recent stats).
Would you take 2% of 2 billion dollars? Well, the computer market is a hell of a lot bigger than 2 billion dollars. The arguments about market share are and always have been just another red herring. Apple is still making lots of money.
That's because the people that write these articles are just like Microsoft... they see computers as money making machines and only the computer's ability to improve people's lives secondarily or if all.
Everything related to computers has to be "business" to these people... it has nothing to do with providing good products or changing the world in any sort of good way.
And, and it's a common theme around here, the population is too dumb to know any difference...
I would think the Zune, which requires the use of its own piss poor (and proprietary) music format, it's crapload of DRM, and it's incompatability with EVERYTHING that came before it would indicate they are going in the exact same direction as always.
The major problem with Ipod is DRM which doesn't allow me to do stuff I should legally have the right to do. Is Microsoft getting rusty and not even able to know WHAT to copy anymore.
Anyway, I guess Zune is bed with the so-called "Music Industry" anyway, automatically meaning it is a product that faces backward and not forward.
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Really? I guess I will have to tell that to the users I deal with every day who are still confused over the concept of opening a tab in Firefox.
Mouse gestures aren't even on the map. Inability or all out fear of installing a program (thanks to idiotic mainstream tech reporters).. now there is a problem for Chrome.
>> Yes, it's easy to make fun of people who don't understand how email addresses work ("srjc@whatever.com isn't from the school? I don't get it. And yes, I'll email you my bank login and password ..."), but the reality is that there are still people who just don't get the difference.
Yes, and they're the ones who are wrong in this situation. They're the one who want to use the Internet but can't be bothered to learn what the (in this case very simple) rules and conventions are.
If there are people that are actually doing this as a fraud then I'm fine with going after them... however no matter what number of people you sent this letter to the VAST MAJORITY are doing nothing wrong at all.
You've decided to cause trouble for a large number of people because your institution is being slightly troubled. Sorry... it doesn't seem right to me.
Slashdotters should register gmail mail addresses using SJRC in every imaginable way and start sending this guy messages.
People like this are why 2000s sucked so bad in the US.
This isn't insightful. I did an ubuntu install this week in under and hour and it does ALL these things. Writer of the parent is totally lazy or a troll.
sadly I know plenty of "new media professionals" and "new media students" that don't know what an .iso file is either.
ignorance is bliss and everyone is happy these days.
yeah. good luck with that. Most people won't see how it personally benefits them or their family and say no. We are well past the age where we can expect joe blow to have the foresight to sacrifice anything for people he doesn't know.
This is the product of their own massive failure. They have abused their customer service and tech support people for years and caused massive turnover and burnout in their domestic staff and then completely forsake them and give them to foreign offices that make the tech support problem for their customers worse. Even more, some companies actually want their tech support and CSRs to fail, not giving them the tools or the information they need to provide good service so the bigwigs can do a CYA move when something goes wrong (I have been in this situation personally!)
The fact that their customers have to go to unpaid outsiders in order to get anything to work is shameful and they shouldn't be bragging about it. Give good wages and get good people and make sure their life isn't miserable by providing a good service and giving them the all information and tools they need to provide good service and this sort of thing wouldn't happen.
ha ha charade you are
Also, basic reading into corporate personhood reveal that SCOTUS never even directly ruled on this idea. It's been accepted as fact ever since a clerk wrote a footnote into a ruling that said "The supreme court sees corporations as persons" or the like.
Someday, hopefully someone with a bankbook can work on challenging this and ACTUALLY getting it to the supreme court... when that court isn't full of corporate shills like Alito. I'm sure this "Strict Consitutionalist" won't remember that consitution writers didn't trust corporations (because of their dealings with the East India company) and were opposed of handing out corporate charters that didn't expire after a given period of time.
Most people living today don't know the basic fact that corporations are "legal fictions" that require the government to exist. Corporations to many these days are some magical category that somehow exist on their own, and until we have a corporate rule type situation that the cyberpunk authors like to write about then we corporations really do require a government to issue them a charter.
I don't know if we have laws that make it hard to revoke a corporate charter, but if we do legislators can write laws to change that (good luck as corporate lobbyists have so much influence). Revoking a corporation's charter is the death penalty as applied to corporations and it has been an option that has been forgotten about. However, if you believe that certain persons are such a menace that capitol punishment is called for, how could you throw the same option away when it comes to corporations that are a menace to society or show themselves unable to follow the common law?
We ought to start thinking as a country about revocation of corporate charters.
Does anyone else besides me see the common practice of coming to a settlement with no admission that the corporation did anything wrong is a really, really bad thing. I don't know if the fact that this is tacked on to every major settlement has to do with the fact that these corporations are massive concentrations of power and money that the legal systems aren't designed to deal with or if it's just greedy plaintiffs or a combination of both. If we could get companies to actually admit guilt in some of these cases, would it head off crap like this anyways?
The Mac's marketshare is (still) microscopic and irrelevent, and not even growing significantly (in fact, I think marketshare may have fallen, but I'm not up on recent stats).
Would you take 2% of 2 billion dollars? Well, the computer market is a hell of a lot bigger than 2 billion dollars. The arguments about market share are and always have been just another red herring. Apple is still making lots of money.
That's because the people that write these articles are just like Microsoft... they see computers as money making machines and only the computer's ability to improve people's lives secondarily or if all.
Everything related to computers has to be "business" to these people... it has nothing to do with providing good products or changing the world in any sort of good way.
And, and it's a common theme around here, the population is too dumb to know any difference...
I would think the Zune, which requires the use of its own piss poor (and proprietary) music format, it's crapload of DRM, and it's incompatability with EVERYTHING that came before it would indicate they are going in the exact same direction as always. The major problem with Ipod is DRM which doesn't allow me to do stuff I should legally have the right to do. Is Microsoft getting rusty and not even able to know WHAT to copy anymore. Anyway, I guess Zune is bed with the so-called "Music Industry" anyway, automatically meaning it is a product that faces backward and not forward.