Err, since it isn't a phone, I would suggest ePhone would be a bad idea. Sprucing up the look wouldn't hurt either, but I'd suggest chrome is a bit kitsch. It doesn't have to be pretty, it just shouldn't be so damned ugly. It doesn't really cost any more to make something NOT look like a piece of crap.
Yeah, and I have an iPhone. I'd rather carry that around and pay $70/month and not have to carry a second device or use a crappy phone. I'm not sure which post is least relevant, yours, or this response.
Anyway, my point is it is kind of silly to say there is nothing on the market quite like a Touch when the Touch is merely an iPhone without the phone. Unless there are some functions on the Touch NOT present on the iPhone (I don't think there are)...
I find it interesting that people can twist the definition of "upgrade" vs. "full install" to meet the need of their argument. An upgrade cd REQUIRES a previous version of the product to be present. Since OSX install disks have no such requirement (like I said, you can install it on a stand-alone external hard drive, if you like), it is NOT an upgrade product. But then again, playing around with technical symantecs like "upgrade" and "full-install" is more the realm of Microsoft Windows market anyway.
So putting bumps on a key is double-tactile, making it twice as good? I think you've just joined the dismissive iPhone-touchscreen-sucks bandwagon, perhaps without even trying it? I was dubious at first, but a year on, I simply laugh at any device that requires a "stylus". When is the last time you've misplaced a finger? Face it, at a minimum, 26 physical buttons are far too many on any device smaller than 5" by 3", and the Apple keyboard (with audio-feedback being a good happy-medium replacement for tactile feedback) is a good engineering feat. What's the point of having a tactile-yet-mini keyboard when you still have to look at the keyboard to type because it is too small to touch-type on?
So you really think the business decision to limit production costs by streamlining product lines has even the most remote of connections to Steve Jobs' ego? Wow.
I see your post a lot around here, and in all seriousness I just have to ask, where is this coming from? Power users? Nerds?...because frankly, the average user buys an Apple device then uses it. No dicking around, no "abusive" relationships. An occasional nagging message to update your software, yes, but abuse? I don't see it, nor do what seems to be millions of other happy Apple customers. So I guess I'm one of those "fanboys" who refuse to admit I'm being dicked around, when the main reason I am a Mac user is because I get tired of being dicked around in the WinXP environment (or having to dick around, if you don't like the passive).
Just drop the whole "marketing" meme. It wasn't true last year, it's not true now and it doesn't look likely next year.
It has NEVER been true, but it is at least a 20 year-old meme. Hell, it beats the "Apple is going out of business soon" meme, or the "Macs only have one mouse button" meme, or the "there's no software for the Mac" meme, so I for one welcome the least incorrect/offensive meme.
You may dismiss OSX as "upgrade" pricing, but the fact remains you can take ANY blank hard drive, stick it in/on a modern-ish Mac (last 6 years or so) and install a full version of the "upgrade" OS on it where no version of the OS existed before. That, my friends, disqualifies your "upgrade" argument. Proprietary is the argument I believe you are looking for.
Sigh....one of these days somebody will actually link to an interesting product. I didn't even look real hard to know I would NEVER buy that thing you posted. People don't want a miniature computer looking device, they want a convergence device that looks decidedly NOT like a computer. "Internet Tablet PC"? Could you come up with a worse name?
Owning an iPhone and signing up for the SDK are two separate issues. Just because the SDK agreement sucks doesn't mean the phone sucks too. MOST people will never, ever do anything with the SDK other than use the by-products, which already are getting rave reviews. Ends-justify-means.
Remember, W. was a member of skull n bones, skull n bones is all about making sure the rich and powerful can manipulate who is rich and who is powerful to their liking.
You mean like the even-less electable John Kerry? Your rant makes no sense.
I'm far from an economic expert, but don't you think the low price of gas in those countries you cite might have something to do with the fact that those countries are swimming in oil? What's your next revelation, corn is cheap in Iowa?
I'm not seeing it. I "hear" it on the news, but from my observation, it's all wishful thinking. And even if a small number of people are driving less, it's mostly reactionary due to the news telling them how expensive it is to drive. Of course low/fixed-income people are the ones who really suffer here, but for most people, it's just another minor expense that really doesn't affect our daily lives. I say this mostly because I lived in England, with $8/gallon gas, and everyone claims "that's why they have better public transportation" and "that's why they don't drive as much", which isn't true. First of all, people in England don't drive less because of the public transportation, or the cost of fuel. They drive less because there is no place to park;-), their "highways" are over-crowded and their cities are setup so that it isn't inconvenient to walk to the fish market to buy tonight's evening meal.
I would hope that at least some of us have learned our lesson from this most recent fuel crisis: oil is simply not a sustainable way to get our energy over the long term.
The only thing I've learned is that the price of oil has NOTHING to do with the actual supply or sustainability as a natural resource and is artificially set by non-sequitur geo-political issues. Unless you assume that there has been less oil pumped over the past year than previous years, or that we consume more oil than can be pumped (hint: both of these assumptions are false).
The other thing I've learned is that "crisis" is hyperbole. In the US, we've enjoyed cheaper-than-should-be fuel for decades. People still drive to work and still drive to the store, regardless if gas costs $4/gallon or $2.
Yeah...I wonder what happened here? I was reportedly replying to something about the trailer "The Watchmen" shown before the Batman movie. I didn't even click on the Lego story!
You do realize that "preview" is just a rudimentary system level tool that lets OSX display pdfs and other media elements without having to boot up a bunch of bloat ware, right? I don't expect it to do anything else really.
As for your Windows easier to learn, you are just wrong. I have a professional degree in computer education and train people on how to use technology in education. There is no comparison when sitting a new-ish user down on the two systems and saying "GO!". Go, as in the Apple menu, Go--> Computer/Home/Desktop/Network/Applications/Utilities...i.e., everything you can do with your computer. Unlike Windows, you don't shut down a Mac from the "Start" menu (yeah, that makes sense). I can go on for about 100 pages with all the WinXP UI errors, but that is too easy (and boring). You have pointed out some valid issues with OS X (the red/yellow/green weirdness) for example, but that is considered a flaw IN COMPARISON to the WinXP behavior that we expect. Take away those expectations and the problem isn't nearly as bad. In short, the long laundry list of OSX complaints are generally not always valid, because they stem from expected behaviors learned by using WinXP.
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Err, since it isn't a phone, I would suggest ePhone would be a bad idea. Sprucing up the look wouldn't hurt either, but I'd suggest chrome is a bit kitsch. It doesn't have to be pretty, it just shouldn't be so damned ugly. It doesn't really cost any more to make something NOT look like a piece of crap.
Yeah, and I have an iPhone. I'd rather carry that around and pay $70/month and not have to carry a second device or use a crappy phone. I'm not sure which post is least relevant, yours, or this response.
Anyway, my point is it is kind of silly to say there is nothing on the market quite like a Touch when the Touch is merely an iPhone without the phone. Unless there are some functions on the Touch NOT present on the iPhone (I don't think there are)...
1. Have Wife (sic) drive up to your cell
2. Jump in wife's car
3. ????
4. Get Away! (Profit?)
I find it interesting that people can twist the definition of "upgrade" vs. "full install" to meet the need of their argument. An upgrade cd REQUIRES a previous version of the product to be present. Since OSX install disks have no such requirement (like I said, you can install it on a stand-alone external hard drive, if you like), it is NOT an upgrade product. But then again, playing around with technical symantecs like "upgrade" and "full-install" is more the realm of Microsoft Windows market anyway.
So putting bumps on a key is double-tactile, making it twice as good? I think you've just joined the dismissive iPhone-touchscreen-sucks bandwagon, perhaps without even trying it? I was dubious at first, but a year on, I simply laugh at any device that requires a "stylus". When is the last time you've misplaced a finger? Face it, at a minimum, 26 physical buttons are far too many on any device smaller than 5" by 3", and the Apple keyboard (with audio-feedback being a good happy-medium replacement for tactile feedback) is a good engineering feat. What's the point of having a tactile-yet-mini keyboard when you still have to look at the keyboard to type because it is too small to touch-type on?
So you really think the business decision to limit production costs by streamlining product lines has even the most remote of connections to Steve Jobs' ego? Wow.
I see your post a lot around here, and in all seriousness I just have to ask, where is this coming from? Power users? Nerds?...because frankly, the average user buys an Apple device then uses it. No dicking around, no "abusive" relationships. An occasional nagging message to update your software, yes, but abuse? I don't see it, nor do what seems to be millions of other happy Apple customers. So I guess I'm one of those "fanboys" who refuse to admit I'm being dicked around, when the main reason I am a Mac user is because I get tired of being dicked around in the WinXP environment (or having to dick around, if you don't like the passive).
Just drop the whole "marketing" meme. It wasn't true last year, it's not true now and it doesn't look likely next year.
It has NEVER been true, but it is at least a 20 year-old meme. Hell, it beats the "Apple is going out of business soon" meme, or the "Macs only have one mouse button" meme, or the "there's no software for the Mac" meme, so I for one welcome the least incorrect/offensive meme.
Why do we have the nubby bumps on keyboards on the f and j keys?
Kind of pointless if you don't know how to touch-type... I'm not so sure they have any functionality beyond that.
Woe is you. Sounds like you are mad because you knew the band before they became famous. Try being a Mac user since 1988 then get back to me ;-)
You may dismiss OSX as "upgrade" pricing, but the fact remains you can take ANY blank hard drive, stick it in/on a modern-ish Mac (last 6 years or so) and install a full version of the "upgrade" OS on it where no version of the OS existed before. That, my friends, disqualifies your "upgrade" argument. Proprietary is the argument I believe you are looking for.
Sigh....one of these days somebody will actually link to an interesting product. I didn't even look real hard to know I would NEVER buy that thing you posted. People don't want a miniature computer looking device, they want a convergence device that looks decidedly NOT like a computer. "Internet Tablet PC"? Could you come up with a worse name?
when Apple abuse their iTunes install base to install Safari for Windows?
Oh yeah, that whole week they did that.
"Yea, grounded in bad law, which doesn't make it right. The Nuremberg trials after the Holocaust established that.
Wow, that was the most subtle introduction of Godwin's Law I've ever seen!
I own an iPod Touch and it is HANDS DOWN the greatest tech device I've ever bought. There is nothing else like it on the market right now.
Except the iPhone, which actually comes with a phone.
Owning an iPhone and signing up for the SDK are two separate issues. Just because the SDK agreement sucks doesn't mean the phone sucks too. MOST people will never, ever do anything with the SDK other than use the by-products, which already are getting rave reviews. Ends-justify-means.
Remember, W. was a member of skull n bones, skull n bones is all about making sure the rich and powerful can manipulate who is rich and who is powerful to their liking.
You mean like the even-less electable John Kerry? Your rant makes no sense.
I'm far from an economic expert, but don't you think the low price of gas in those countries you cite might have something to do with the fact that those countries are swimming in oil? What's your next revelation, corn is cheap in Iowa?
No mater the reasons, people are driving less.
I'm not seeing it. I "hear" it on the news, but from my observation, it's all wishful thinking. And even if a small number of people are driving less, it's mostly reactionary due to the news telling them how expensive it is to drive. Of course low/fixed-income people are the ones who really suffer here, but for most people, it's just another minor expense that really doesn't affect our daily lives. I say this mostly because I lived in England, with $8/gallon gas, and everyone claims "that's why they have better public transportation" and "that's why they don't drive as much", which isn't true. First of all, people in England don't drive less because of the public transportation, or the cost of fuel. They drive less because there is no place to park ;-), their "highways" are over-crowded and their cities are setup so that it isn't inconvenient to walk to the fish market to buy tonight's evening meal.
They mean being able to plug in your Volt while you're at work so that you can not only get to work without burning gas, but you can get home, too.
My work won't even pay for our coffee filters, so I doubt they'd let us plug our cars into their outlets while we're at work.
I would hope that at least some of us have learned our lesson from this most recent fuel crisis: oil is simply not a sustainable way to get our energy over the long term.
The only thing I've learned is that the price of oil has NOTHING to do with the actual supply or sustainability as a natural resource and is artificially set by non-sequitur geo-political issues. Unless you assume that there has been less oil pumped over the past year than previous years, or that we consume more oil than can be pumped (hint: both of these assumptions are false).
The other thing I've learned is that "crisis" is hyperbole. In the US, we've enjoyed cheaper-than-should-be fuel for decades. People still drive to work and still drive to the store, regardless if gas costs $4/gallon or $2.
Yeah...I wonder what happened here? I was reportedly replying to something about the trailer "The Watchmen" shown before the Batman movie. I didn't even click on the Lego story!
As for your Windows easier to learn, you are just wrong. I have a professional degree in computer education and train people on how to use technology in education. There is no comparison when sitting a new-ish user down on the two systems and saying "GO!". Go, as in the Apple menu, Go--> Computer/Home/Desktop/Network/Applications/Utilities...i.e., everything you can do with your computer. Unlike Windows, you don't shut down a Mac from the "Start" menu (yeah, that makes sense). I can go on for about 100 pages with all the WinXP UI errors, but that is too easy (and boring). You have pointed out some valid issues with OS X (the red/yellow/green weirdness) for example, but that is considered a flaw IN COMPARISON to the WinXP behavior that we expect. Take away those expectations and the problem isn't nearly as bad. In short, the long laundry list of OSX complaints are generally not always valid, because they stem from expected behaviors learned by using WinXP.
WHAAAAAAT? Katie Holmes? Come on....... She belongs on the WB, not on the big screen.
I'd say Batman qualifies as a tertiary character. (Or a fourthuriary? character).