Considering Woz left Apple during the Mac's very first years, he really has nothing to do with the current state of Apple. Unless, somehow, he secretly has been helping develop OS X and iPods. If the Apple II were still kicking, then yeah, maybe he would be relevant to the current state of Apple. Hell, Al Gore, the inventor of the Internet, is more relevant to Apple than is Steve Wozniak.
That is the product of another horrible slashdot contributor's summary. In fact, the Google part has nothing to do with the iPhone, but in the true spirit of being an Apple-bashing slashdot nerd, this guy decided he wanted to be first to attack Apple with a completely out-of-context summary. I'm beginning to think it is time for me to move on to something else...anything good over on Digg?
I pick Jobs over Woz because if Apple were run by Woz, it would be another geek-factory, like the rest of the industry, and Apple would have died years ago. But thankfully, Apple is an alternative, and not another choice that would be lost on most geeks. Not that Woz is a bad guy, he's just so obviously into binary, whereas the average human likes to click on pretty icons.
With that said, how can anyone take this lead-in seriously. That was the most disjointed, non-sensical summary of a slashdot article ever. That seems to be the pattern with Apple related stories when some repressed Mac-bashing geek hurries to be the first with his/her lame attempt to flame Apple.
So yeah, nice try, but the reality is that Woz bought 10-grand (plus) in iPhones and spent $200 too much for each one...he is a little miffed, obviously.
It doesn't matter anyway, because parent's claim simply isn't true. I've been using an Intel iMac and a MacBook for over a year now in the UK (both purchased in the States).
You are wrong on both accounts. My MacBook in the UK (that was purchased in the States) both works with the wireless with BTInernet and the DVD for UK dvds and US dvds. It is our saving grace for renting dvd's at blockbuseter here in the UK and playing our net flicks dvds from the States. I have no idea what technobabble you were going on about with the 1-11 channel business. All I know is that I turn on my BT router and my Macs (all three of them) see it just fine.
I'll never understand people's attempts to come on/. and declare a Mac can't do something, knowing full well that a hundred people just like me (a US spec mac in use in the UK) can easily come on here and dispute the fact. What do you have to gain?
Wow. You are so NOT an Apple customer. Ever...Never...Ever. You simply don't get it, so don't go shitting on everyone else's parade. Dude, seriously, just look at what you wrote. I don't know a single Mac user who would ever use any of the terminology you used. Let it go man, you are not a Mac person, and we get it. Go play in another thread.
Oh, and kudos for digging up the oldest myth about Macs ever by invoking the Xerox claim. That kills your argument faster the fact that 99% of the people reading your post have no idea what you are talking about or how any one person could ever develop such a huge grudge. Did Steve Jobs stand you up or something?
Please...drop the faulty price analysis already. Apple products no longer cost 2-3x as much as the competition. In fact, it is pretty well documented on here that the core2duo machines are about the same, if not a bit cheaper, than equally configured PC offerings. Feel free to give one single example of a comparative product from another vendor that costs 2-3x less than the Apple offering. And no, ram doesn't count. I'm listening!
I keep seeing this claim, yet nobody can give a trustworthy citation. I don't doubt that it is true, but what's wrong with that? It's called BUSINESS for a reason.
and anyone who is reasonably intelligent does allow resale value to become a fact for consideration in that category.
I couldn't disagree more. Intelligence has nothing to do with this. I bought (and still drive) a 1999 Ford Contour SVT. 8 years on, it's time for a new car and I could care less what my SVT is worth. If the V6 Honda Accord I was looking at at the same time is worth $5000 more, so what? $5000 more now would not be worth 1 cent as compared to how great my car has been, and how soulless and boring my Honda would have been. (Hence my resale value = soulless comment).
Now if Honda offered a car that was damn near identical to my Contour SVT, something like a speciality team Honda with speciality factory tuning or something, I would have considered the resale between the two. But for those with niche interests like myself, resale value plays no role in our purchasing habits. Nor does that make us any less intelligent.
And of course, the one HUGE thing people neglect when talking about resale value....a Honda Accord may have thousands of dollars more resale in it, but it also COST thousands of dollars more when it was new.
If I owned a business that needed cars, this whole conversation would go out the window, and we'd all be driving Corollas and Civics, but alas, this is MY money and MY life, so I'm gonna get a little soul!
Wow. So not true. I've paid cash in excess of $20k for several items in the past 10 years, and I have zero debt, other than my mortgage. My credit is just fine. If you spend large amounts in CASH, you actually tend to look BETTER to creditors, so they'd be willing to loan you money easier. If you go from $300,000 in dept to suddenly paying cash for cars, then yeah, that's a red flag, because you probably found a new drug supplier, or are selling some pretty sweet secrets to nations that could use it.
You don't do anyone any favors by making blanket statements like "always pay cash". The right answer is for people to think for themselves.
The guy is citing Dave Ramsay so he already has indicated that thinking for yourself for your own unique situation is not an option.
What you could have said was Dave Ramsay isn't doing anyone any favors by hocking his psuedo-economics-disguised-as-religious-indoctrination books and speaking events that border on religious cultism.
The low-life auto broker, who turns around and sells them to people with lowcredit/nocredit...which fortunately, isn't most people. The rest go into scrap yards.
That is a very comprehensive response you created, but you forgot one MAJOR factor in your analysis. Most of us buy the car we like or want and could care less about resale value. People who buy cars for resale value have no souls.
Well I too read the article. That's why I said the lead-in was misleading. The lead-in..the part that the slashdot contributor writes. As for patent infringing hardware, why hasn't Apple been sued yet then?
That's fine that you don't want AT&T, but you can't characterize the phone as not being able to make phone calls, just because you don't like the carrier. Especially when the phone DOES make phone calls.
Yes, but again, you are just playing around with terminology. The fact is that my network uses what will eventually be called the 802.11n speeds and architecture NOW, so the headline is misleading, inferring that 802.11n speeds might not ever become reality, when it already IS a reality.
Finally a post that points out legitimate issues. Although, I think you can put the call on hold by pushing the main button, then navigating to the contacts menu, and adding it. You may have to unpause them to ask for the number again (if its like a longer number with area codes and extensions). But yeah, it would be nice to have them keep talking as you finger it in (that sounds obscene).
I think the battery issue is not nearly as big of an issue as most people make it out to be. I use my phone all day at work, and listen to podcasts/music the entire time, then use the iPod for the commute home, and the battery is still about 75% full. I don't know how long it takes to charge, but I've gone three days before having to charge it. Besides, if I had the letters CxO in my job title, I'm pretty sure I'd have a cool little iPhone dock in my Benz/Bimmer/Aston/Porsche, etc.
I want my phone to "guess" my location based on cell towers, wifi access points
It already does something like this, but I'm not sure how. I live in San Antonio, which is a huge sprawling town, yet anytime I search on Google maps (Guitar Center, for example) it picks the closest one to my location in San Antonio, without me having to type San Antonio or anything else. SOMETIMES it sends me to somewhere in California or something weird, but I would guess that is a limitation of the googlemaps.app
I'm not sure about your #3, and #5. My locations are in Google Maps. What do you mean by save? I've had my phone since August 8th, and every location I've serached for is still in there. I'm sure #5 will be addressed on November 9th, when the iPhone goes onsale in Germany.
What I'd like in cover flow would be the volume buttons to be reversed. As it is now, you push the button to the right to decrease volume and left to increase, which is backwards from the volume meter.
What you failed to mention is that you can call anyone. Just because the phone is locked to AT&T doesn't mean you can't make phone calls with it. It's not like AT&T has a select list of phone numbers that only work with iPhones. Come on and quit being inciteful.
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Considering Woz left Apple during the Mac's very first years, he really has nothing to do with the current state of Apple. Unless, somehow, he secretly has been helping develop OS X and iPods. If the Apple II were still kicking, then yeah, maybe he would be relevant to the current state of Apple. Hell, Al Gore, the inventor of the Internet, is more relevant to Apple than is Steve Wozniak.
That is the product of another horrible slashdot contributor's summary. In fact, the Google part has nothing to do with the iPhone, but in the true spirit of being an Apple-bashing slashdot nerd, this guy decided he wanted to be first to attack Apple with a completely out-of-context summary. I'm beginning to think it is time for me to move on to something else...anything good over on Digg?
With that said, how can anyone take this lead-in seriously. That was the most disjointed, non-sensical summary of a slashdot article ever. That seems to be the pattern with Apple related stories when some repressed Mac-bashing geek hurries to be the first with his/her lame attempt to flame Apple.
So yeah, nice try, but the reality is that Woz bought 10-grand (plus) in iPhones and spent $200 too much for each one...he is a little miffed, obviously.
It doesn't matter anyway, because parent's claim simply isn't true. I've been using an Intel iMac and a MacBook for over a year now in the UK (both purchased in the States).
I'll never understand people's attempts to come on /. and declare a Mac can't do something, knowing full well that a hundred people just like me (a US spec mac in use in the UK) can easily come on here and dispute the fact. What do you have to gain?
Oh, and kudos for digging up the oldest myth about Macs ever by invoking the Xerox claim. That kills your argument faster the fact that 99% of the people reading your post have no idea what you are talking about or how any one person could ever develop such a huge grudge. Did Steve Jobs stand you up or something?
Please...drop the faulty price analysis already. Apple products no longer cost 2-3x as much as the competition. In fact, it is pretty well documented on here that the core2duo machines are about the same, if not a bit cheaper, than equally configured PC offerings. Feel free to give one single example of a comparative product from another vendor that costs 2-3x less than the Apple offering. And no, ram doesn't count. I'm listening!
I keep seeing this claim, yet nobody can give a trustworthy citation. I don't doubt that it is true, but what's wrong with that? It's called BUSINESS for a reason.
Now if Honda offered a car that was damn near identical to my Contour SVT, something like a speciality team Honda with speciality factory tuning or something, I would have considered the resale between the two. But for those with niche interests like myself, resale value plays no role in our purchasing habits. Nor does that make us any less intelligent.
And of course, the one HUGE thing people neglect when talking about resale value....a Honda Accord may have thousands of dollars more resale in it, but it also COST thousands of dollars more when it was new.
If I owned a business that needed cars, this whole conversation would go out the window, and we'd all be driving Corollas and Civics, but alas, this is MY money and MY life, so I'm gonna get a little soul!
Wow. So not true. I've paid cash in excess of $20k for several items in the past 10 years, and I have zero debt, other than my mortgage. My credit is just fine. If you spend large amounts in CASH, you actually tend to look BETTER to creditors, so they'd be willing to loan you money easier. If you go from $300,000 in dept to suddenly paying cash for cars, then yeah, that's a red flag, because you probably found a new drug supplier, or are selling some pretty sweet secrets to nations that could use it.
What you could have said was Dave Ramsay isn't doing anyone any favors by hocking his psuedo-economics-disguised-as-religious-indoctrination books and speaking events that border on religious cultism.
The low-life auto broker, who turns around and sells them to people with lowcredit/nocredit...which fortunately, isn't most people. The rest go into scrap yards.
That is a very comprehensive response you created, but you forgot one MAJOR factor in your analysis. Most of us buy the car we like or want and could care less about resale value. People who buy cars for resale value have no souls.
Well I too read the article. That's why I said the lead-in was misleading. The lead-in..the part that the slashdot contributor writes. As for patent infringing hardware, why hasn't Apple been sued yet then?
That's fine that you don't want AT&T, but you can't characterize the phone as not being able to make phone calls, just because you don't like the carrier. Especially when the phone DOES make phone calls.
Yes, but again, you are just playing around with terminology. The fact is that my network uses what will eventually be called the 802.11n speeds and architecture NOW, so the headline is misleading, inferring that 802.11n speeds might not ever become reality, when it already IS a reality.
Have you been on a deserted island? I guess you missed the part that blow jobs are now $399.
Finally a post that points out legitimate issues. Although, I think you can put the call on hold by pushing the main button, then navigating to the contacts menu, and adding it. You may have to unpause them to ask for the number again (if its like a longer number with area codes and extensions). But yeah, it would be nice to have them keep talking as you finger it in (that sounds obscene).
I think the battery issue is not nearly as big of an issue as most people make it out to be. I use my phone all day at work, and listen to podcasts/music the entire time, then use the iPod for the commute home, and the battery is still about 75% full. I don't know how long it takes to charge, but I've gone three days before having to charge it. Besides, if I had the letters CxO in my job title, I'm pretty sure I'd have a cool little iPhone dock in my Benz/Bimmer/Aston/Porsche, etc.
Nice post, btw.
What I'd like in cover flow would be the volume buttons to be reversed. As it is now, you push the button to the right to decrease volume and left to increase, which is backwards from the volume meter.
What you failed to mention is that you can call anyone. Just because the phone is locked to AT&T doesn't mean you can't make phone calls with it. It's not like AT&T has a select list of phone numbers that only work with iPhones. Come on and quit being inciteful.
What do our video iPods do that our iPhones don't? Games?