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What Do You Want In iPhone 2.0?

Ian Lamont writes "The predictions about the iPhone being a bust have so far been way off the mark, but that doesn't mean the device is perfect. Besides the dependence on the AT&T Edge network and the lack of an iPhone SDK, there are a boatload of UI, software and hardware issues that should be addressed in the next-generation iPhone. Some complaints include GPS functionality, allowing iPhones to be used as hard drives, adding RSS support, and turning auto-correct into auto-complete. What would you want to see in the next generation of iPhone?"

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  1. be carful by ttapper04 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It could be like the PSP, once you upgrade the firmware your homebrew stopped working.

    1. Re:be carful by fyngyrz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How about the ability to use it in the huge areas of the country that aren't covered by their one pitiful provider? If I bought one now, it'd be about as functional as an iPod, and I already have one of those...

      Oh well. Guess they don't want to sell them to me, my SO, and our three offspring.

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    2. Re:be carful by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Funny

      be carful

      Well said, sonny!

      Now why'd you moderators mod this fine, upstanding young man a "troll"? As can be seen from his subject line, he just wishes all of us to embrace the the principles of carpooling! Frankly, we need more of his kind! None of this mamby-pamby talk about Global Warming, just get out there and make sure your car is full ! This kind of lead-from-the-front can-do attitude is our best bet to lick this yet!

      ttapper04, I salute you, Sir!

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    3. Re:be carful by JebusIsLord · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I mostly just want more memory... my CD collection is at about 30GB right now. Put 32GB of flash in there and we have a deal.

      I'm not carrying one of these AND my iPod. I want an all-in-one.

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    4. Re:be carful by russellh · · Score: 1

      I mostly just want more memory... my CD collection is at about 30GB right now. Put 32GB of flash in there and we have a deal.
      Do you? I've found I don't want all my music with me all the time. I have an old iPod for the car with lots of playlists for driving. I put the music I know I'm going to listen to today or this week on my iPhone for that rare case when I actually listen to music from it. While it would be nice to have everything everywhere all the time, in reality I go through phases; I don't want a random selection from thousands of albums, so playlists work for me. Besides, there is some music which I want to have but which I rarely ever want to listen to - especially not on an iPod. Like, for instance, holiday music, or kids music, or nostalgia-driven (but crappy) music from the past. Most of that stuff can stay on my hard drive at home. And I still have stuff in the basement on cassette tape that, while I'm not ready to part with it, I'm not yet willing to buy it again or even rip it. And I don't even have a tape player anymore. what's with that?
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    5. Re:be carful by Torvaun · · Score: 1

      I want some sort of active noise cancellation device that keeps me from hearing the asshole in the movie theater as he yaks it up. Preferably in the form of a GPS locater to realize that he's in a theater, and a 9mm that fires into his ear when he starts exceeding a certain (low) decibel limit.

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    6. Re:be carful by Name+Anonymous · · Score: 1

      I mostly just want more memory... my CD collection is at about 30GB right now. Put 32GB of flash in there and we have a deal.
      Do you? I've found I don't want all my music with me all the time. I have an old iPod for the car with lots of playlists for driving. I put the music I know I'm going to listen to today or this week on my iPhone for that rare case when I actually listen to music from it. I too would want to see a 32 GB iPhone. That wouldn't hold my whole music collection, however, it would hold enough that I wouldn't bother changing the music on it more than once every couple of months maybe. 32GB would allow enough music and space for other things on the phone. Remember on an 8GB iPhone, you probably should not use more than 6GB of space for music - depending of course how much you use other features of the phone. You want space for email, photos, the address book, etc.

      Of course, I would also like to see the iPhone available for other carriers in the US - AT&T has coverage issues where I tend to be.
    7. Re:be carful by JebusIsLord · · Score: 1

      I'd also like room for movies. You know... to watch on the giant screen? I like to bring a few movies on trips as well as a lot of music.

      In addition to what you said... 8GB is just not nearly enough. And I'm sooo disappointed in the iPod touch. If it was a 32gb or larger device, i'd buy one right now.

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    8. Re:be carful by LKM · · Score: 1

      No. Unlike Sony, Apple did nothing to prevent homebrew app development. They have publicly said that they don't care one way or the other, unless you SIM-unlock the phone.

    9. Re:be carful by truespin · · Score: 1

      My music library is in the region of 80GB - however the iPhone will get plugged into my MacBook Pro and therefore sync'd pretty much every day. The iPhone is not about having your entire catalogue on it - it is about having what you need until you next sync...

      I used to use a big iPod that held my entire catalogue - but I rarely use it now - instead I use a 4GB nano - which more than holds enough to see me through the 24 or 48 hours till I next plug it in to my machine and put some new music on - and I listen to A LOT of music in those 24 - 48 hours.

      Maybe I'm unusual for syncing/changing the music on my iPod/iPhone though..?
      I found that with an iPod containing 80GB of music it would take me 10 minutes before I started journeys because I was deciding what to listen to - so I then created a daily playlist which held roughly my next 2 or 3 days of music - and it is this playlist I now sync up to the iPhone and the big iPod is largely unused...

  2. I don't want much more by blantonl · · Score: 4, Informative

    But this would do it for me:

    1. Native iChat functionality
    2. Ability to tether the device
    3. Some level of copy and paste.
    4. Ability to clear all SMS conversations

    That's about it.

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    1. Re:I don't want much more by powerpointmonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm in the UK, and for me the killer feature would be HSDPA. My 2year old HTC phone has 'propper' 3g, why was the iPhone crippled?

    2. Re:I don't want much more by bstadil · · Score: 4, Informative

      It was not deliberately crippled. The current chips uses too much power and would make the battery life unacceptable. Google for more info and Jobs' comments on the subject. 3G with less power is scheduled for 2Q08 if I remember correctly.

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    3. Re:I don't want much more by adisakp · · Score: 1

      I don't want much more either.... oh except for it to work better as an actual phone. Right now the max volume is ridiculously for both the speaker phone and the regular phone speaker. If you're in a crowded place, you won't be able to hear the normal speaker and if you're in your car on a noisy road, the speaker phone is barely loud enough to work. The three most important things for a multi-media phone should be:

      #1) Does it work well as a phone ?

      #2) Does it work well as a phone ?

      #3) Does it work well as a phone ?

      Everything else should be second unless you want to carry around a second phone to actually make calls on. My other (much more minor) gripe is that it's way too easy to mistype on the built-in keyboard.

    4. Re:I don't want much more by montygreen · · Score: 1

      I don't want much more either. Multi-line support would be way cool. Voice dialing doesn't seem to far fetched.

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    5. Re:I don't want much more by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      5. Wasabi dispenser

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    6. Re:I don't want much more by Zonk+(troll) · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What I'd like is:

      1) Free of AT&T
      2) VOIP, used by default when WiFi is available
      3) Designed as an open platform to be modified easily (custom apps, alternative firmware, etc)

      Of course, that will never happen.

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    7. Re:I don't want much more by jtroutman · · Score: 3, Informative

      Everything else should be second

      Don't you mean fourth?

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    8. Re:I don't want much more by legirons · · Score: 1

      needs to run OpenMoko

      (b.t.w. that means: Skype over WiFi, bluetooth mesh networks, end-to-end encryption, openfirmware, and general hackability. your phone should work for you, not against you)

    9. Re:I don't want much more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      and a pony?

    10. Re:I don't want much more by djh101010 · · Score: 4, Informative

      But this would do it for me:

      1. Native iChat functionality
      Download "AppTapp installer" from http://iphone.nullriver.com/beta/ and install it. Then have it install "MobileChat", or one of the other native apps for chat.

      2. Ability to tether the device
      Check YouTube, some guy demo'd that during week 2.

      3. Some level of copy and paste.
      4. Ability to clear all SMS conversations

      That's about it.
      Not sure I can help with the last two, but check out all of what apptap can do. Make sure you install "summerboard" so you can scroll your main screen once you get too many icons to display on one page. You'll also want to add "community sources" so you can have more stuff to choose from. The list increases a couple times a day.
    11. Re:I don't want much more by jcr · · Score: 0

      I'd also like to make its capabilities available to the host computer when I have it docked. This would include:

      1) providing Bluetooth connectivity if the computer doesn't already have a BT interface
      2) letting the computer use the iPhone for network connection
      3) letting me use the computer's keyboard for anything I'd do on the phone (IE, SMS or entering text in any app on the phone)
      4) running the phone's apps on the computer, making them show up as widgets (for example).

      -jcr

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    12. Re:I don't want much more by bwoodard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      5) Search through contacts by business or other methods
      6) cut/paste
      7) Categorize contacts/memos
      8) task list
      9) Scientific calculator mode
      10) Bluetooth GPS profile
      11) A2DP Bluetooth profile

    13. Re:I don't want much more by DDLKermit007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, you can have your HDSPA. My Nokia N95 needs to be charged twice daily due to how badly 3G sucks down the battery. Jobs & them are waiting for the less power hungry 3G, and sticking with what works for now.

    14. Re:I don't want much more by plalonde2 · · Score: 3, Funny

      12) PDF reader 13) mpeg player 14) cut/paste (again) 15) split screen so I can see some data I have to retype because of lack of 6/14

    15. Re:I don't want much more by kc2keo · · Score: 1

      How about some clicky buttons!

    16. Re:I don't want much more by iluvcapra · · Score: 1

      Here's a link for tethering -- doesn't use proxying, like some others...

      http://nsgn.net/better_iphone_tethering/

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    17. Re:I don't want much more by Neanderthal+Ninny · · Score: 1

      User replaceable battery. Can be used on more than one carrier (ie. Not only GSM-GPRS-EDGE but CDMA or other technologies) User installed applications. External storage media (ie SD card). User replaceable internal storage.

    18. Re:I don't want much more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SOCKS proxy for EDGE tethering video on GooTube.

    19. Re:I don't want much more by kb0hae · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      How about for (Cr)apple to admit that the iPhone is vastly overpriced junk, that they are discontinuing it, and that there won't be an iPhone 2.0?

      Same for the iPod would be cool too!

    20. Re:I don't want much more by megaditto · · Score: 1

      If you want all this, why don't you get a Palm PDA? It'll end up being cheaper, too.

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    21. Re:I don't want much more by Propaganda13 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Really? the iphone doesn't have voice dialing? I haven't had a phone in 10 years that didn't allow voice dialing.

    22. Re:I don't want much more by plalonde2 · · Score: 1

      Feeding the troll: because the iphone fits in my pocket better, replaces my ipod and my cell phone, and has a decent web browser. The treo (for example) is bigger, with less screen. It does do pdf, but that's less of a priority for me than the phone/ipod combo.

    23. Re:I don't want much more by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      I can't speak for him, but I find myself in the same boat of wanting a combination of a high quality pda and phone. All the offerings I've seen so far seem to fail on one of those two points, in particular with screen size. I'd actually suggest to him the neo + openmoko or qtopia once it hits.

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    24. Re:I don't want much more by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Are there any solid plans for getting skype to work on it? Closed or not, I've really come to like their service. Skype's the only thing about the neo I've found lacking in its specs. Given the nokia tablet's skype port, as well as the port to qtopia, a neo with either openmoko or qtopia would seem easy to get on their if the skype devs had any interest.

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    25. Re:I don't want much more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So wait, you don't want other people to be allowed to purchase a product because you personally don't like it? If it isn't any good, don't buy it and STFU.

      It is one thing to have an opinion, but it is extreme hubris to think you know best for all consumers out there.

    26. Re:I don't want much more by megaditto · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I guess if you absolutely need the two-in-one functionality, then the PDA/BT phone combo will not work.

      If you don't mind carrying an extra device in your pocket, then you can also get at least double the iPhone screen size, a proper PDF viewer, an opensource movie player, VNC client, HP49 hardware emulator, c compiler, etc.

      And despite the FUD you might hear, even a three year old Palm like T5 will play movies full-screen (at 480x320) without any problems.

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    27. Re:I don't want much more by Namarrgon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's the excuse Jobs is giving you, yes. Of course, when the iPhone inevitably gets HSDPA, the extra power usage will be glossed over ("We knew consumers wouldn't be satisfied with a mere 7 hrs talk time instead of 8, so we intentionally limited its capabilities.").

      Funny how battery life on 3G just isn't that big an issue on other phones. Personally, I'd rather have the choice, and just switch back to GSM if I need the extra life. But that's not really the Apple way, is it?

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    28. Re:I don't want much more by Namarrgon · · Score: 1

      If you want battery life more than speed, why don't you just switch the phone back to GSM, instead of complaining? You do have a choice.

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    29. Re:I don't want much more by Zymergy · · Score: 1

      How about a (user) replaceable battery and a high-capacity memory card slot?

    30. Re:I don't want much more by BlueF · · Score: 1

      7) Categorize contacts/memos

      For what it's worth, contacts can be categorized using Address Book on Mac. Haven't tried doing the same on PC/Outlook, but I imagine it would do the same.

      No idea why the ability to categorize ON the phone wasn't included. Then again, many of the omissions of this phone baffle me (GPS, multiple SMS recipients, MMS, iChat, etc).

      As someone already posted down a bit further, aside from 3G, the most critical features missing I estimate are:

      1) SDK 2) Uncrippled Bluetooth

      iPhone Dev's sure are doing well without an SDK!
    31. Re:I don't want much more by Zeinfeld · · Score: 3, Interesting
      #1) Does it work well as a phone ?
      #2) Does it work well as a phone ?
      #3) Does it work well as a phone ?

      Precisely and the thing that was actually amazing about the iPhone is that it is the first PDA phone that has not been a half baked POS. I have had a Blackberry, an iPaq and a Treo. They all suck. They crash, they drop connections, they are unreliable. The Treo is a vast improvement on the iPaq but its still a POS.

      The iPhone on the other hand is competently engineered and actually works. What would it take for me to buy one?

      For me to buy one for my personal use it would have to be really, really good. It would have to be good enough for me to carry a second phone around with me for a start. If it had GPS capability and I could use it to auto-navigate in the car that would make me buy it. In fact I would even buy one if there was a GPS adaptor kit available that I could fit in the car and then plug the iPhone in when I am driving the car without a GPS.

      For the phone to be acceptable as a work phone it would have to meet two particular requirements. First it has to synch with Exchange email and calendar, either natively or through a third party plug in like Goodmail. Second the email capability must provide for a 'reset' facility in the case that the phone is reported lost or stolen. Without that capability I can't use the phone for work.

      Those 'must have' items apart, I would like to be able to use my iPhone as a remote control for arbitrary devices in my home. I would also like to be able to use it as a one time password token.

      Another very nice to have feature would be to be able to use the iPhone as a VOIP phone when in range of a suitable WiFi source. I doubt that will be an option until sometime after the AT&T exclusive deal expires though.

      My list of nice to have is not actually very long, I don't want my phone to do absolutely everything. I don't even care about having a camera on my phone. But I certainly would like to see the way phones are sold change so that instead of having to buy the phone through my network provider I buy the phone and then decide what network to use it on. I want to see the phone become a commodity communications device.

      If that happens then instead of having one phone and many batteries I would be just as happy taking a second phone with me on a trip. If one phone goes flat I switch to the other. I should be able to receive calls from either my home number or my 'mobile' number when I am out of the house and the phone should be able to reconfig itself to my wife's preferences if she needs to use it when I am out.

      Instead of buying one phone per person I buy one for every room that currently has a telephone handset.

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    32. Re:I don't want much more by SpectreBlofeld · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can turn 3G off on 3G-enabled phones, so that isn't an issue.

    33. Re:I don't want much more by numbski · · Score: 1

      12 and 13 are already there....?

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    34. Re:I don't want much more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bull. They made a design decision, that weight and dimensions were more important than certain functionality. To me, it was a bad trade-off. They should have accepted a slightly larger iphone (it's not exactly a little phone, why not a tiny bit larger), that had (a) a bigger battery, and (b) 3G (HSDPA, specifically)?

      While I'm at it, I'd add ...

      (c) a well-designed landscape keyboard, 'cause I have problems with the portrait keyboard.
      (d) ability to read/edit word, excel documents.

      Other than those 4 things ... I like the iphone.

    35. Re:I don't want much more by DDLKermit007 · · Score: 1

      And I do have it on GSM generally. To have such a thing though shouldn't require such excessive power requirements. 3G has some maturing to do in this regard.

    36. Re:I don't want much more by bstadil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure it is an issue. Apple designs their product differently than most companies. That's the reason we have this conversation. If you want a product that just adds features there is a gazillion to chose from. Second. If they had included a power hungry 3G capabilities we would be having a conversation on /. about how crappy the battery life of the iPhone is.

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    37. Re:I don't want much more by shmlco · · Score: 4, Informative

      Quotes off page one of a Google search for HTC battery life, giving 1,750,000 results...

      "The only gripe I have about this device is the poor battery performance. ... I usually need to recharge it in the late afternoon because the battery gets below 10%."

      "I'm very disappointed with the battery life on my 8525, especially compared to the 8125. ... I lost 10% on my 35 minute drive to work This included no voice calls but a fair amount of text messaging, internet use, and emails."

      "The battery on the htc tytn sucks, ... using wifi on it for 20 minutes drains 30-40 percent of the phone already! the phone's absolutely amazing but the battery life is it's downfall."

      "However when I am using the built-in wireless extensively, when I am traveling, or when I am not able to recharge at some point during the day, I have noticed a definite need for a backup power solution."

      IOW, battery life under 3G would appear to be a "bit" of an issue...

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    38. Re:I don't want much more by shmlco · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So they should have added the feature so it can be turned off?

      Further, I think you should check out AT&T's 3G coverage. Until their network gets a MAJOR set of upgrades, having 3G on the phone isn't going to do you a lot of good.

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    39. Re:I don't want much more by Nataku564 · · Score: 1

      I own the Treo 755p, and I feel as though I must put forth my own anecdotal evidence since it contradicts yours. It not only has never dropped calls, but it also has the best reception of any phone I have owned previously. This may very well have more to do with Sprints network than the Treo itself, but still ... your assertion that the Treo is a POS is quite the exaggeration from my experience.

      It has crashed, I will admit to that. However, all of the crashes were directly attributable to me running a third party app. I gladly accept this as simply part of the territory, since the Treo isn't locked up like the iPhone. I rather like the ability to write my own apps, and download others. Its kind of like a PDA or something that way.

      The Treo does meet all of your 'must haves', as far as I am aware. I think you might be being a bit too harsh on it.

    40. Re:I don't want much more by shmlco · · Score: 1

      I simply do not understand the cry for GPS. How many people don't know where they are? Or where they're going?

      And if I ABSOLUTELY had to have directions, I probably would have printed out a Google map beforehand. Or could manage to spend 30 seconds typing in an address (assuming that the person I was visiting wasn't already in my address book).

      Thinking that an iPhone even WITH GPS is going to be a substitute for a true automotive GPS nav system is kind of laughable. Nor would it probably even be a halfway decent substitute for a handheld Garmin GPS unit if you need one for hiking, camping, or other "outdoors" use.

      So, if you're visiting someone you don't know, in a completely unknown location, with no advance warning whatsoever, and you're not driving a car, and there are no street signs available ANYWHERE (in which case Google maps probably isn't going to work anyway, since you're now in a place with no EDGE connection), THEN having GPS COULD save your completely unprepared butt.

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    41. Re:I don't want much more by shmlco · · Score: 1

      RE: Search through contacts by business or other methods

      If you're on a Mac go to the Address book and start making groups, adding contacts to them (work, play, businesses, etc.). Then you can selected 'em while on the phone.

      RE: 7 & 8, we should get those when Leopard is released.

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    42. Re:I don't want much more by eeyoredragon · · Score: 1

      I always thought it was just because AT&T's 3G network is abysmal. At least, it always was for me. I was lucky if I could dial out much less keep a call going for more than a minute or two. Full bars most of the time too. The internet was nice and fast but as long as I had 3G enabled, the phone rarely worked. It was infuriating. As soon as you disabled that, it worked fine again. Not only that, but Cingular/AT&T are the most incompetent people I've ever talked to about a service being sold. They had no idea about the ISP(DA)@CINGULARGPRS.COM vs the WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM settings. I called back thinking I just got a stupid operator, but the result was the same. You get better information about their services and settings on wiki sites than talking to them directly. And not slightly better either.

      If I were Apple, in keeping with the "just works" mentality, I wouldn't have enabled 3G (ideally I'd have put a radio on there but had it disabled by default, but whatever) either. *shrug* The speed bothers the hell out of me, but I still browse the web on my iphone way more than I ever did on my htc (cingular 8525).

      That being said, I'd love having 3g capability on the iphone. (Though I would disable it when not using the internet if it used more power; I actually use mine as an ipod as well as a phone)

    43. Re:I don't want much more by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      Instead of buying one phone per person I buy one for every room that currently has a telephone handset.
      And then I buy one phone to wipe my ass with, and throw out because it's dirty... Seriously, I liked your comment, but why do you need so many phones? :)
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    44. Re:I don't want much more by SpectreBlofeld · · Score: 1

      So they should have added the feature so it can be turned off?

      What I'm saying is that if you want the better battery life, you can turn it OFF. If you want high-speed data, you can turn it ON.

      It's about choice. But then, it is an Apple product.

    45. Re:I don't want much more by cjb110 · · Score: 2, Informative

      if that were the actual reason, then what about all of the 3G handsets in Europe with equal or better battery life?

      its got nowt to do with battery, but rather the market. The US doesn't have a widespread 3G network, therefore it was pointless to add it...your biggest user base doesn't care. Secondly we know that like the ipod there are going to be multiple generations. So iphone v1 has lots of crappy issues, or choices that apple made but weren't sure about. iphone v2 will be the fix.

      The only real surprise is that the euro operators believe that the Apple brand will overcome the horrendously high premium the iphone asks.

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    46. Re:I don't want much more by binford2k · · Score: 1

      This service is available on my Verizon phone and it's pretty badass. Not only does it eliminate the need for 'print[ing] out a Google map beforehand,' but it gives you reasonably accurate verbal directions and it's remarkably easy to use. If I lived in a place where I didn't know the area inside and out, or if I traveled more, I'd be subscribing to it today.

    47. Re:I don't want much more by shmlco · · Score: 1

      Most 3G chipsets consume just as much power if you take them down to EDGE. And if you turn if off completely, you lose mail, messages, maps, internet, weather, etc.. Or in other words, pretty much all of the things that make an iPhone an iPhone.

      Of course, I could just go to Home, Settings, Wireless, turn it on, go to Home, SMS, send a message, go to Home, Settings, Wireless, turn it, off, wait a bit, then go to Home, Settings, Wireless, turn it on...

      Yeah, manual power management sounds like just the thing I want to dick around with.

      When the network is there, and the power management is there to the point where it's as good or better, then I'm there. Until then, I'll take battery life over nearly any other feature you can name.

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    48. Re:I don't want much more by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

      The battery life on my HSDPA Samsung Z560 is pretty bad (made worse by the inaccurate battery meter). Not an issue for me, because I can charge it every night. But as a concession, it comes with two batteries in the box.

      Of course, swappable batteries is an innovation lost on Apple's iPod designers.

    49. Re:I don't want much more by Archimonde · · Score: 1

      Your argument is circular.

      The title of the article is "What do you want in iphone 2.0" isn't it not? So, guy gave a legitimate question concerning 3G capability. And further down the thread, there is a comment about switching 3G on/off, and then there is your comment.

      One could ask for a say, sms character counter (X), but you could always respond with your comment which boils down to: X isnt' there because Apple designed it without it. ("Apple designs their product differently...") or iphone doesn't have X so choose another phone.

      So basically you are completely missing the point of a discussion.

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    50. Re:I don't want much more by Archimonde · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Welcome to slashdot, where in any apple topic its better not to have a choice than to have it. And of course, reason and logic are waiting to kick-in in some more nerdy topic.

      Mods: go ahead mod me down, got plenty of karma.

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    51. Re:I don't want much more by Archimonde · · Score: 1

      Well, we can agree that 3G spends to much power at the moment.

      But tell, what mobile phone would you rather take?

      Phone A: has no 3G.
      Phone B: has 3G, can be switched off, everything else the same as Phone A.

      This is what some people in this thread are trying to say about iphone but it just falls on deaf fanboy ears unfortunately.

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    52. Re:I don't want much more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "I'm very disappointed with the battery life on my 8525, especially compared to the 8125. ... I lost 10% on my 35 minute drive to work This included no voice calls but a fair amount of text messaging, internet use, and emails."

      Must've been a pretty safe ride.

    53. Re:I don't want much more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about multiple phone numbers on one phone. That way can be used as office and personal phone.

    54. Re:I don't want much more by dave420 · · Score: 1

      What was he going to say - "oops! we fucked up! It would have made our phones too expensive, eaten our margins, so we didn't include 3G". Of course not - he was going to make it a feature not a shortcoming! His arguments have made people think it's OK to pay to not have 3G. Which is clearly bullshit, as the difference in speeds between EDGE and 3 or 3.5G is staggering. Considering they decided the SDK was going to be for web apps, crippling its web speed is mind-bogglingly weird. It's another example of Apple's design, which is fantastic, curtailing the technical ability of the machine. The same thing happened to the nut-cooker PowerBooks, whose sleek design and aluminium cases made cooking your balls a daily chore, but damn it looks great when it's doing it. And the Cube, which turned into a truncated pyramid over time due to its fanless room-heating ability. I'm not bashing Apple or Steve Jobs when I write this - I'm a fan of using the right tool for the right job, and FUD by anyone about anything sucks ass, which is exactly what that iPhone ass-delving-for-excuses session Mr. Jobs had was full of.

    55. Re:I don't want much more by dave420 · · Score: 1

      It is in Europe when they release them here shortly - we're bathed in 3G, and the rest of the competition seems to have figured out how to get decent battery life out of a 3G handset...

    56. Re:I don't want much more by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      iCal at the moment has a sort-of task manager. Hit the push-pin icon in the bottom right of the iCal window. Not sure if it syncs those to iPhone though, I'm stuck waiting for the UK release.

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    57. Re:I don't want much more by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think the idea was to be able to do those things without unapproved hacks. Not that Installer.app is difficult to use, but it'd be nice to know that Apple wasn't going to release an update that will break everything.

    58. Re:I don't want much more by Oldsmobile · · Score: 1

      Multilingual typing, or atleast an easy way to switch between languages.

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    59. Re:I don't want much more by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      The title of the article is "What do you want in iphone 2.0" isn't it not? So, guy gave a legitimate question concerning 3G capability. Since when is "why was the iPhone crippled" a legitimate question in response to "What do you want in iphone 2.0"?
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    60. Re:I don't want much more by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      It is in Europe when they release them here shortly - we're bathed in 3G, and the rest of the competition seems to have figured out how to get decent battery life out of a 3G handset... I guess all those people complaining about the "decent" battery life of their 3G phones must be Apple fanbois.
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    61. Re:I don't want much more by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      How do you tell apart a fanboi and a sane person? The sane person constantly switches his G3 on and off.

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    62. Re:I don't want much more by jcr · · Score: 1

      Let's see how many mod points this clown has..

      I'd also like to make its capabilities available to the host computer when I have it docked. This would include:

      1) providing Bluetooth connectivity if the computer doesn't already have a BT interface
      2) letting the computer use the iPhone for network connection
      3) letting me use the computer's keyboard for anything I'd do on the phone (IE, SMS or entering text in any app on the phone)
      4) running the phone's apps on the computer, making them show up as widgets (for example).

      -jcr

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    63. Re:I don't want much more by jgs · · Score: 1

      With respect, that's spoken like someone who doesn't drive much in unfamiliar cities, or at least has never done so with a GPS nav system.

      Up until a few years ago, I might have had a similar attitude to yours. Then I rented a few cars with nav systems included (Hertz offers 'em for a few bucks extra a day, and sometimes you luck out and they give you one gratis). I was hooked. There are many reasons why a GPS nav system is better than Google maps (et al), but they can mostly be summarized by the observation that a good nav system will allow you to simulate someone who knows their way around a given area really well. A scenario: you're visiting an unfamiliar city, heading back to your hotel, your friend calls and suggests you meet someplace for dinner? No trouble as long as your nav system knows the restaurant (and it likely does). No need to ask for directions, no need to go back to your hotel room, connect your laptop, get the Google map, and copy it down. Miss a turn? The nav system will recompute on the fly. Yeah, you get some of this with Google maps over EDGE -- but not with +/- a few meters accuracy, and not with real time spoken driving directions. Just not the same thing, qualitatively.

      The main drawback of the things is that one becomes reliant on them, so that when they fail (outdated maps, circumstances like temporary road closures, poor reception, etc) you can end up disoriented and without an immediate backup plan. It's like outsourcing that part of your brain. Or at least, that's how it works for me. They also come up with freakish routings sometimes (but so do Google maps et al). Notwithstanding, I find the bargain on the whole to be very worthwhile.

      By the way, this goes squared for driving in European cities, many of which don't have street signs, or more correctly have street signs which are so hard to spot that they might as well not exist from the point of view of a non-native driver moving at 50 kph.

      I don't know why you say that an iPhone with GPS couldn't be a good substitute for a "true automotive GPS nav system". These days, a decent "true automotive GPS nav system" is just a moderately powerful CPU, some flash memory, a screen, a GPS receiver, and some software. The first three an iPhone has, the fourth is what we're speculating about, and I see no reason in principle why the fifth couldn't be ported to the iPhone as it has been to many other lesser handhelds (for example, Garmin sells its quite good nav software for many PocketPC handhelds). These days I travel with a pocketable Garmin GPS which is certainly as good as the built-in unit I frequently had in my rental car last year. If I could integrate that functionality with my phone and end up carrying less electronic crap around with me, I would willingly pay for the privilege, and to judge by the other comments, others would too.

      Rent a car with a nav system next time you're driving in an unfamiliar city. Try it. You may be surprised.

    64. Re:I don't want much more by walt-sjc · · Score: 1

      Of course every other phone has a user-replaceable battery, so it's really a non-issue. So add to the iPhone list:

      * swappable battery

      And then:
      * a REAL SDK that allows native 3rd party applications
      * slide-out keyboard
      * CDMA / VCAST version / allow other carriers

    65. Re:I don't want much more by Arkus · · Score: 1

      Definitely a landscape keyboard, that was a deal breaker for me. Actually being able to use all features of the phone in landscape mode would be ideal.

      Native support for third party apps would be great too!

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    66. Re:I don't want much more by Reaperducer · · Score: 1

      Funny how battery life on 3G just isn't that big an issue on other phones.
      Actually, it is. SonyEricsson phones (including the one I own) tend to only get 2-3 hours of talk time in 3G mode, compared with nearly twice that much in GSM mode. When I'm in the United States I can chat on my phone all I need because it's in GSM mode. When I take it to Japan I have to be careful how much I talk. It's one of the reasons Sony added a feature to the M600i so you can turn off the 3G search feature and extend the battery life by only using GSM when you need to.

      I recently looked at the specs for some 3G phones when I was thinking of getting a new one, and their 3G talk time is pretty close to half of what an iPhone's talk time is. There's a lot of hype in the Nokia and SonyEriccson brochures about "up to 7 hours" of talk time, but when you dig deeper, that's always GSM mode, not 3G.
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    67. Re:I don't want much more by Reaperducer · · Score: 1

      Great link. Thanks for that.

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    68. Re:I don't want much more by Reaperducer · · Score: 2, Funny

      A pony? Why do you want to lock yourself into some DRM-crippled equine variant? If it doesn't have full unicorn options, it's nothing less than Micro$oft in disguise.

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    69. Re:I don't want much more by Reaperducer · · Score: 1

      Really? the iphone doesn't have voice dialing? I haven't had a phone in 10 years that didn't allow voice dialing.
      Nope. No voice dialing.

      OTOH, I haven't had a phone in 10 years that didn't promise voice dailing, but I could never get it to work.
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    70. Re:I don't want much more by Reaperducer · · Score: 1

      3) letting me use the computer's keyboard for anything I'd do on the phone (IE, SMS or entering text in any app on the phone)
      OS X already allows this on many phones (the SMS with the computer keyboard thing) through the Address Book application. It shouldn't be hard to implement on an iPhone.
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    71. Re:I don't want much more by Zeinfeld · · Score: 1
      And then I buy one phone to wipe my ass with, and throw out because it's dirty... Seriously, I liked your comment, but why do you need so many phones? :)

      Running around the house looking for a phone gets boring. I want to have a phone/remote/Web tool wherever I am in the house. I want to be able to use it to control the thermostat on the furnace/central air, look at the security cameras, adjust lights, open/close the drawbridge, release the sharks with frick'n lasers, control the TV, etc.

      At $400 a pop the iPhone is still a bit pricey for this. But make it $200 a pop and cost becomes a lot less of an issue.

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    72. Re:I don't want much more by djh101010 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think the idea was to be able to do those things without unapproved hacks. Not that Installer.app is difficult to use, but it'd be nice to know that Apple wasn't going to release an update that will break everything.
      When, though, is the last time Apple released any update that broke modifications to any of their products, which was insurmountable? Because, I can't think of any. Again, they make it disabled by default, but don't do any of many obvious things to block people from doing what they want.
    73. Re:I don't want much more by jrumney · · Score: 1

      "The battery on the htc tytn sucks, ... using wifi on it for 20 minutes drains 30-40 percent of the phone already! the phone's absolutely amazing but the battery life is it's downfall."

      IOW, battery life under 3G would appear to be a "bit" of an issue...

      I have a TyTN, and the comment you quote above correctly points out that the Wifi, not the 3G, is what drains the battery quickly. I have push email going with a permanent HSDPA connection, and the phone goes for days between charges if I leave the wireless disconnected and don't switch the screen backlight on too often.

    74. Re:I don't want much more by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Either way, it'd be nice if you were able to do these things on the iPhone with built-in functionality or supported 3rd-party development. You never know what's going to happen with hacks, what they'll break or what will break them, and anything broken won't be supported by Apple.

    75. Re:I don't want much more by Rakarra · · Score: 1
      How many people don't know where they are? Or where they're going?

      Me. Very often. In fact any time I'm going to a place I've never been to before.

      And if I ABSOLUTELY had to have directions, I probably would have printed out a Google map beforehand.

      I'd rather not have to read a map while driving. Or have to pull over to read said map because it's not safe to do both at once. Or to have to angle the car in a strange way through a quiet residential neighborhood at night so my headlights shine upon a very small, poorly-placed road sign. Or wonder if that road I just passed that had no name sign was the road I was supposed to turn on. Or get frustrated because the road's name was recently changed but the online map hadn't gotten the new name yet.

      All of these happened to me on one trip a few weeks ago..

      Sure maybe a real car GPS is better. But where am I supposed to install it in my old car that I'm going be junking in a year or two anyway? Why not have a not-quite-as-good gps on my phone instead?

    76. Re:I don't want much more by gordo3000 · · Score: 1

      well, they did it with the last set if iPods ( to try and force iTunes use on everyone again) and Jobs has said that it is one of his goals to get rid of these hacks on the iPhone.......

    77. Re:I don't want much more by DDLKermit007 · · Score: 1

      I'm certainly no "fanboy". Hell I got into this BECAUSE I own a Nokia N95 (one of the few smartphone MORE expensive than the iPhone @ $750). I honestly can't fault Apple for saying no to 3G. The hardwares more expensive, the power requirements aren't worth it until the new less power hungry radios roll out in a year or so, and you seriously think the general populous of phone buyers know how the hell to turn 3G on & off? Apple wanted their phone to "just work", and be thiner than the Blackjack (impossible with current 3G radios).

      The thing I'm more annoyed about is the Anti-Apple "fanbois". Most have little to no idea what rational thinking brings to the table. Things like power consumption, size requirements, and market forces are far beyond their grasp. And yes, I do own quite a bit of Apple hardware, I own just about any piece of hardware that I need. Which oddly enough, does not entail an iPhone at this time (hell I just blew $750 on a phone a month before the iPhone came out!). It's nice hardware, but I don't need a replacement yet, and I certainly don't need to be under a contract to AT&T. I like being able to goto another provider if they piss me off.

    78. Re:I don't want much more by djh101010 · · Score: 1

      Actually, the deal with the last set of iPods, is that they added a database function that took a whole several days for the hacks community to catch up with. They didn't do it to lock anyone out of anything, they added a feature.

      And, please read this article: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9037398&intsrc=hm_list
      This is Steve discussing this very topic. He wants to discourage people unlocking the phone from carriers Apple has contracted with; he's not talking about someone installing Tetris.app on their iPhone. I think perhaps some of the confusion is in the term "hacks" which the press has been misusing for decades. Jobs doesn't like the specific class of them which impacts his contractual agreements; he hasn't said or done anything to interfere with app installs.

      And - when new firmware comes out, it's easy enough to see what changed, take out that which kills your mod of choice, and release a change manifest that anyone can apply if they choose. This isn't a problem, even if it was a problem, which it isn't.

    79. Re:I don't want much more by dave420 · · Score: 1

      No, those saying they don't want 3G on a phone who's sole SDK is web-based are apple fanboys.

    80. Re:I don't want much more by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      No, those saying they don't want 3G on a phone who's sole SDK is web-based are apple fanboys. So all those who say they would never buy an iPhone are Apple fanboys - yeah, that makes sense.
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    81. Re:I don't want much more by dave420 · · Score: 1

      The iPhone is not 3G, so I'm saying the absolute opposite of what you think I am, clearly. People are swallowing SJ's line of "3G=bad", even standing up for it, which flies in the face of reason when everything useful the iPhone does is served over its internet connection.

    82. Re:I don't want much more by Lars+T. · · Score: 1
      I was talking about those who said they would never buy an iPhone (even if it were G3) unless it were "open". Of which there are much more than of what you were babbling about. So much for your sill fanboi talk.

      And he didn't say G3 is bad, he said the battery usage of G3 is still bad - are you gonna deny that too?

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    83. Re:I don't want much more by jusdisgi · · Score: 1

      Well, the two of you have experiences that fit perfectly with mine. Having sold cell phones for 3 providers (years ago, thank heavens), it always seemed to me that there was a much greater difference in performance within a model of phone than there was between models. Of course, some models were poor all around, but more often I'd see a few lemons and a few star performers out of any given model that I sold many of.

      Also, your note that the Treo meets all of GP's 'must haves' seems to be correct...which I assume is why he does indeed have it.

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    84. Re:I don't want much more by gordo3000 · · Score: 1

      where did you get the idiotic idea that the iPod database encryption was a feature? if by feature you mean "ensures you will be using apple software unless you go out of your way to figure out why your iPod now reports 0 songs" yeah, I guess it is. This is the equivalent of MS making windows only work cleanly with IE back in the mid 90's. All it does is make other software look "incompatible" and create a false perception of superiority for apple.

      http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070916-gtkpod-coders-crack-apples-new-ipod-checksum.html

      yeah, it was cracked, but don't act like it was anything other than trying to keep the iPod locked to iTunes for the vast majority of users.

      Of course, I love your last line. You act like any joe can actually go about doing even the first of your 3 step process.

      I have no problem adding actual features to your database. YOu change it so you can include pictures and movies? great.

    85. Re:I don't want much more by djh101010 · · Score: 1

      where did you get the idiotic idea that the iPod database encryption was a feature?
      Where did _you_ get the idea it was put there specifically and for the only purpose of stopping non-iTunes use with the iPod?

      if by feature you mean "ensures you will be using apple software unless you go out of your way to figure out why your iPod now reports 0 songs" yeah, I guess it is.
      OK, now you're starting to see my point. Really. Evil Corps say "Steve, your stuff is wide open so our blah farking blah fix it". Steve says "Sure, I'll, you know, fix it." Apple releases trivial roadblock, Evil Corps (whose names tend to end in AA, have you noticed?) smile and nod, Steve rolls his eyes, and 2 days later the fix comes out from the mods community. I think Steve knows this. If Apple wanted to REALLY lock us out, they could. They haven't.


      Of course, I love your last line. You act like any joe can actually go about doing even the first of your 3 step process.
      Sorry, perhaps I should have written it as "It's no big deal to wait a couple days until someone analyzes and releases a workaround." In the case of the last iPhone firmware upgrade which, yes, the unjail process didn't work on immediately, it took all of an hour or two to get the updated unjail process out there. Again, something changed, scripts had to be tweaked to adapt to the change, and everything continues to work as before. We agree that there was a change to the database, we disagree on the real motivation. But, if they wanted to lock us out, they would have long ago.


      I have no problem adding actual features to your database. YOu change it so you can include pictures and movies? great.
      I'm not sure I understand your point on this last part here.
    86. Re:I don't want much more by gordo3000 · · Score: 1

      by my last comment I am talking about what they have done for the last 6 years. every time a new ipod gen comes out, they generally have new types of data they can hold (photos, video, etc) and this has traditionally required a day or 2 for people to update their software to handle the new data types.

      The MPAA and RIAA have no say over the way the database works as it is highly doubtful the works sold through the iTunes store make up even a reasonable minority of the total data stored on iPods today. They have probably pushed for updates on the DRM apple employs. Why you seem to think Apple would roll over now when they have been hawks at keeping things at the status quo boggles me.

      All this really does is break all the legacy 3rd party software people who aren't tech oriented were introduced to. My sister's program for pulling stuff off someone's ipod and putting them on her computer is now broken. She isn't one to try and figure out exactly why this is(she hardly understands what an OS is), she just figures the software is bad. It's equivalent to MS changing the .doc format to break every other office package out there. sure, you can say give it a bit and people will figure it out, but it doesn't make it anything but monopolistic.

    87. Re:I don't want much more by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Some people just don't realize what it's like to live the life of a nudist do they?

      I mean, you are a nudist right? I can't think of any other reason why you wouldn't have a pocket to carry things like a phone in.

      Sheesh, the nerve of some people ;)

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    88. Re:I don't want much more by Nataku564 · · Score: 1

      He did say "have had", so I suppose I assumed he didn't currently have it. He also called it a POS, so I also assumed he felt it was lacking in some respect :)

    89. Re:I don't want much more by Bearhouse · · Score: 1

      True - my Blackberry Pearl lasts for ages, even with Bluetooth enabled for GPS navigation, and GPRS working overtime getting data from Google maps as I drive along...

    90. Re:I don't want much more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or a vehicle being driven by someone else.

      Phew! Solved that tricky conundrum!

  3. Errr, yeah, GPS is just what it needs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    GPS functionality? How about moving to this side of Y2K when it comes to cellphone technology first? I don't know, maybe start with MMS?

  4. A user-replaceable battery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  5. Well, for one... by Daimando · · Score: 2, Funny

    removable flash memory would be a start.

    1. Re:Well, for one... by Romancer · · Score: 1

      Ah, but then you'd go down that slippery slope and people whould start asking for removable batteries again. :)

      Seriously though, the built in battery only really works when the device itself is a consumable, most poeple use their phones the two years and toss them before the battery goes completely flat and they get a new phone. These phones though are next to free and can be considered consumable to the masses. The higher tech devices on the other hand are not. Think people replace their PDAs and (non apple)MP3 players every two years? Not likely, these have better lifespans and are used for more functions that are long lasting, listening to music and organizing information and future events. It's one thing to transfer your phonebook from one phone to another but a PDA is a pain to get synched up again with different software or a new model with (sigh) different version of Outlook. PITA!

      The iPhone is combining these devices together and still carrying the baggage and shortcommings from the devices it's supposed to surpass. Removable battery, high speed data connections (including wireless since that's it's main functioning state). And the highest neglected feature request that has stumped corporate america so far: User enhanced functionality. Get it right this tiem apple, give us the ability to improve your product for you, For FREE no less! Let us make spiffy programs and features that will propogate with demand across your sleek foundation hardware. Give us the chance to make you money.

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    2. Re:Well, for one... by JazzyMusicMan · · Score: 0

      or better yet...removable battery...

    3. Re:Well, for one... by Vancorps · · Score: 1

      Step out of the Blackberry crap if synching a new phone is a PITA for you. I just enter username and password along with servername and all my stuff shows up over my phone without the need for a tether. ActiveSync is great. All my tasks, contacts, emails get transferred. My music and work files I keep on an SD card. My laptop has a card reader so it's mighty convenient.

      You're point is well made though about removable batteries being a must along with a proper SDK. I still have reservations about a touchscreen keyboard. It screams of problems to me. So far it seems to be holding up, I haven't heard many complaints about it getting dirty and whatnot.

    4. Re:Well, for one... by Romancer · · Score: 1

      I'm a tech so it's not just blackberry stuff that I have to deal with. Most of the new devices don't have anything better than basic import or export functions that's half ass at best. I can't tell you how many times I land up going all the way down to csv or tab delineated just to get the data transfer started.

      Some devices are great with others and some are only great within their own brand, but most don't want you leaving so they make it hard, or don't care and make it near impossible with proprietary formats. Third party software seems to work most of the time but it can also be a pain when it tries to corrupt the data or enter duplicates for no reason.

      Some things could use standardization, basic consumer data storage is high on that list for me. Standard fields with a spec that addresses expansion of the individual lengths as well as the field quantities themselves. A coalition of manufacturers including those overseas would have to be behind it though. Still, I can dream.

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  6. The only reason I haven't purchased one by Yold · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Hardware keyboard + Unix Apps.

    Nuff said...

    1. Re:The only reason I haven't purchased one by Yold · · Score: 1

      BTW my brick-of-a-phone (aka. HTC vx), runs anything, has wifi, and a keyboard. But, again, it is a friggin brick with the shitty IE mobile browser. In my opinion, safari is the iPhone's killer app.

    2. Re:The only reason I haven't purchased one by Mascot · · Score: 1

      There are some pretty nifty keyboard phones available at the moment. The HTC S710 for example (Opera supposedly works on it). That's what I'm getting. iPhone is too much bling, too little... phone.

      Oh yeah, and after getting burned by the 3G iPod battery, I'm not getting anything Apple again unless it comes with user replacable battery.

    3. Re:The only reason I haven't purchased one by empaler · · Score: 2, Interesting

      BTW my brick-of-a-phone (aka. HTC vx), runs anything, has wifi, and a keyboard. But, again, it is a friggin brick with the shitty IE mobile browser. In my opinion, safari is the iPhone's killer app. I have a HTC Wizard (locally known ad QTek 9100) - the killer app for the is the Opera browser. Opera Mini for Java is okay, but Opera Mobile for Windows CE/Mobile is totally FTW.

      That being said, it's also a brick, so I use it twice a month.
    4. Re:The only reason I haven't purchased one by coaxial · · Score: 1

      Well then you don't want an iphone. You want a laptop, cause that ain't never gonna happen.

    5. Re:The only reason I haven't purchased one by djh101010 · · Score: 1

      The keyboard gets easy to use after a week or so, really. And, unix apps, most are already there and you just need Terminal.app or the VT100 emulator which are out there free (see link below for pointers). sshd, rsync, couple of shells...just ssh into it from any other system and work on it that way, or you can use the terminal.app on the phone itself to modify things directly.

    6. Re:The only reason I haven't purchased one by Tjp($)pjT · · Score: 1

      Software keyboards are the way to rule. I have tried to get a russian/english keypad part for my Nokia e61 and it is impossible apparently. Nokia delears in Ukraine say that it is a rare part and they can't get them. The dealers. Nokia in Finland says go through the dealers.

      A software keyboard that changes content when I change input context is a much better deal.

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  7. Be Cheap and Unlocked by weav · · Score: 0

    Have it cost $100 and work with any carrier (OK, that can be after a limited lock-in period say a year or two).

  8. Easy answer by obender · · Score: 4, Funny

    In iPhone2 I want OpenMoko.

    1. Re:Easy answer by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I suppose you want, nay, DEMAND, ogg vorbis before you will buy?

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    2. Re:Easy answer by byolinux · · Score: 1

      Anyone with any real clue would insist on free software stack that you (or someone else) can modify before buying such an expensive device in the first place.

      The fact that people are willing to buy something that officially can't have new software written for it suggests they are not very serious technical people.

    3. Re:Easy answer by NoMaster · · Score: 1

      The fact that people are willing to buy something that officially can't have new software written for it suggests they are not very serious technical people.
      No; as someone who has spent 20+ years behind a soldering iron and keyboard, I'd say all it suggests is they're not very serious Open Source people. Like their committment to Sparkle Motion, their committment to Open Source is ... Look! Shiny!

      It's as if they want some of the kudos that goes with RMS, but not the smell...

      (Seriously though - auto-complete / predictive text is a feature somebody wants?! Why not go the whole hog and just feck it up by licencing T9? I'd much rather have the nice Apple-style error highlighting, coupled with an easy way - fingernail tap? - of bringing up the suggested words list. But, then, I can spell already...)

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    4. Re:Easy answer by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The fact that people are willing to buy something that officially can't have new software written for it suggests they are not very serious technical people.


      How do you like your open-source TV? Is your open-source refrigerator working for you? And your open-source car is doing fine, I trust?


      Surely you didn't buy closed-source versions of these products... that would suggest you are not a serious technical person.

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    5. Re:Easy answer by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      It appears that you feel "Open Source" is a buzzword that can be slapped on the front of the name of anything to make it 'cooler' to geeks.

      What exactly are you doing here?

    6. Re:Easy answer by byolinux · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Actually, I don't use the term open-source, I prefer the term, free software.

      But I don't have a car, but the last time I checked, they weren't rolling off the production line with the hood welded shut, so people can do things like change a battery, replace a spark plug, etc.

      As for my TV and my fridge - they're both fine. I can watch whatever I want - including building my own device to plug into the TV, and as for the fridge, I'm free to fill it with whatever brands of food, or drink, I like.

      So, your analogy is shit.

    7. Re:Easy answer by megaditto · · Score: 1

      But, then, I can spell already...)
      No you can't.

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    8. Re:Easy answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm. I work in the tech support department of a very widely deployed firewall vendor. To last longer than a few weeks here, you need to be extremely technical. Six people here out of the 50 or so have iPhones, including one of the technical leads and one of the escalation leads.

      Oddly enough, none of the non-technical managers have one yet.

    9. Re:Easy answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you like being assfucked moron?

  9. Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by HartDev · · Score: 1

    The best thing, without a doubt, and desperately wanting.....is drag and drop! Let me drag and drop my music, iTunes is not a good UI for managing a device! Also the ability to play more video audio and video formats like ogg and avi. I think the only way this will happen, is somebody port Linux to this thing........please port Linux! Is there somewhere I can donate $100 to the Linux on the iPhone project?

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  10. The perfect OS by gardyloo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Windows Me.

    1. Re:The perfect OS by WwWonka · · Score: 1

      "Windows Me."

      waves magic wand...

      ***poof***

      "There! you are now a bloated over hyped supposed media killer operating system!"

    2. Re:The perfect OS by aldo.gs · · Score: 1

      More like Windows Meh :P

      I need some sleep.

  11. uhm.. open to all providers by deftones_325 · · Score: 1

    At+T must have some sort of stranglehold on apple for now.. but when thats up.. then i might buy one. But.. by then i'm sure some rip-off version or the newest Linux phones will be out.

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  12. Exchange Active Sync Support by sybarite · · Score: 1

    I am hoping for Exchange Activesync support. I have several clients who will switch from Windows Mobile-based phones to the iPhone in droves if this were available.

    1. Re:Exchange Active Sync Support by mergy · · Score: 1

      Agreed on this. Heck even Palm OS can do this now. My Treo 700p does just fine with Activesync and Kerio. Once you have your calendar, contacts and email syncing to your phone, you really don't want to abandon that fuctionality. If the iPhone had that, and I could get a command line and ssh, I would be set.

    2. Re:Exchange Active Sync Support by geek2718 · · Score: 1

      Absolutely. My calendar is on my treo, which is the only logical place for it since that is the only thing that stays with me throughout my day. Who cares if Outlook beeps at you to remind you about that meeting if you aren't at your desk?

      For me, Exchange calendaring is the only really useful thing in exchange (especially when everyone in-house uses it!). Since my Treo syncs with exchange wirelessly, I never have to plug in my Treo, and I have no need for an full featured exchange application on my desktop. This meant I could quit dorking around with evolution/evolution connector and just use various mail clients over IMAP on my Linux desktop.

      If I went to iPhone, which I like in other ways over the Treo, I'd have to get a Linux desktop exchange setup, and it still wouldn't be as nice as my Treo.

  13. What kind of boat are we talking about!? by Orig_Club_Soda · · Score: 1

    A freakin dingy?

  14. ichat+flash by trybywrench · · Score: 0

    ichat and flash, that's all i ask. (I'm aware that Flash is really up to Adobe)

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  15. Really? by jvagner · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We just went through months and months of iPhone discussions. Then we re-hashed half of those details in the way that the iPod Touch is a little disappointing. A lot of progress has been made in terms of getting unofficial 3rd party apps installed to the device. Do we really have to talk about this already?

    Here's the thing: Apple, and Steve Jobs, will do exactly what they want and nothing more. We may get iChat support, we may get video at some point, but we're probably not getting an official SSH client. We're probably not getting VOIP, even though Apple has made obvious their disdain for the cell industry.

    Once a product is launched, Apple tends to make small, incremental improvements. I don't see the iPhone 2.0 as a huge step up. In his "Steve Takes Europe" tour, the timelines for a 3G iPhone seem to be pointing more towards the end of next year, not sooner.

    Be happy with your iPhone now. I won't be getting one, but that's okay. But I *am* done thinking about the iPhone, because for me it really is short of the mark. I'm in love with the interface, the form factor, and the degree to which Apple was able to think very differently than the rest of the industry. But, Apple's self-imposed product limitations are too annoying for me. It's just not going to be the device I really want.

    1. Re:Really? by Angelwrath · · Score: 1

      But, Apple's self-imposed product limitations are too annoying for me. It's just not going to be the device I really want. Apple's device definitely takes the Smartphone concept one step forward, and certainly Apple put no limits on certain features. So what are these sale-killing features that you want? Your post would have been much more useful if you had made it constructive, rather than leaving this "big gap" of issues you have that you don't mention.

      As for what I'd like to see in the next iPhone:

      - More storage capacity. Apple went with the "smartphone music" model for storage, where the marketing says "it plays music", but then the actual amount of storage is very low. Remember all those phones that claimed they could play music but you only had 50 MB of storage for that music? That's what I mean. 16GB isn't enough for one quarter of my iTunes library in ALAC lossless format.

      - Longer battery life. An obvious issue, but I'm always unsatisfied with the talk time of most phones.

      - I'm willing to bet that Apple is, once again, working with Google, but this time on a sweet GPS / Google Maps solution.

      - At least two models. GPS is cool, but I have no need for it, so a regular iPhone would be great. Heck, in Canada, I'd even be content if the took out the EDGE radio. Data prices up here are so insanely high that I'd never even bother sending data by EDGE.

      - I wonder if a black & white mode for the screen could save power?

      - A standard file system and finder. The iPhone is a great smartphone and could also be a great mini-tablet or PDA in the next iteration, or two.

      - A graphics chip and a triple axis motion sensor. The iPhone might have an early chance at being a portable gaming device, and the 3-axis sensor would allow developers to make the broad spectrum of games that appeal to all generations, just as the Wii does.
    2. Re:Really? by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      Apple's device definitely takes the Smartphone concept one step forward, and certainly Apple put no limits on certain features. So what are these sale-killing features that you want? Your post would have been much more useful if you had made it constructive, rather than leaving this "big gap" of issues you have that you don't mention.

      You mention people not mentioning issues, but I take issue with your claim of "definitely takes the Smartphone concept one step forward". That's more than a little subjective, even more so when one can look at pretty much any article on the iPhone to find extensive list of features it doesn't have. "Less is more", in itself, is not a step forward.

    3. Re:Really? by Angelwrath · · Score: 1

      All smartphones have a laundry list of missing features, so you're only making a moot point. What I mean is one step, one iteration forward. That doesn't imply major changes, and it certainly does not imply "adding all the missing features". And the claim isn't subjective, you need only look at all the "design concepts" coming out from Nokia and Intel that are emulating the iPod. They aren't making lateral moves, they're adding to the smartphone. That's a step forward.

    4. Re:Really? by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      Be happy with your iPhone now. I won't be getting one, but that's okay. But I *am* done thinking about the iPhone, because for me it really is short of the mark. I'm in love with the interface, the form factor, and the degree to which Apple was able to think very differently than the rest of the industry. But, Apple's self-imposed product limitations are too annoying for me. It's just not going to be the device I really want.
      The fact that you spent a lot of time writing this comment proves to me exactly the opposite. You're obsessed with the iPhone. You have wet dreams about it, and you'll get one as soon as you get a job and move out of your mom's basement (I kid, you have such a low Slashdot id that you must already be kicked out ;-) In any case, just get over it. Fork over your $399 and give yourself to the matrix...errr RDF.

      J/K, but you have to admit, if you took the time to write that comment, you're probably on the brink of buying one.
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  16. Voice dialing by sxltrex · · Score: 1, Informative

    EVERY phone made today should come with this feature. Many states have or are soon going to have laws that require using a hands-free set to talk while driving (CA's takes effect July 2008). While the iPhone does work with bluetooth headsets, requiring a driver to take their eyes off the road in order to initiate a call is inexcusable. I personally will not be purchasing an iPhone (although I do want one!) until this feature is added.

    1. Re:Voice dialing by SCHecklerX · · Score: 1

      That's a dumb law. It encourages using a phone while driving. Something that falls under driving distracted and shouldn't be done.

    2. Re:Voice dialing by hb253 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'd lean the other way and say every phone should shut off once it's in a car.

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  17. Ummmm by amohat · · Score: 1

    Yes, please.

    All of the above.

    1. Re:Ummmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ||oooh... some of that down there looks good too!
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  18. International Availability by c_sd_m · · Score: 1

    To be able to buy it in Canada? At least it should be easy to set the pricing now...

  19. email deletion by zaimor · · Score: 1

    the ability to delete multiple emails at once

  20. Voice Synthesizer/Modulator by kwabbles · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want to be able to change my voice when I call people.

    Options must include:

    Barry White
    Liz Hurley
    Megatron
    Gary Coleman
    Jerry Lewis
    R2D2
    Bobcat Goldthwait
    Herve Villavechaize
    Smeagol (post-ring)

    I'd switch to AT&T for that.

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    1. Re:Voice Synthesizer/Modulator by tholomyes · · Score: 1

      Add in K.I.T.T. and Groucho Marx, and I'm in!

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    2. Re:Voice Synthesizer/Modulator by coaxial · · Score: 1

      At least Cobra Commander wasn't on that list. That would pique the attention of the NSA@AT&T.

      "My god! Could it be? Yes! This is the voice of the leader of a ruthless terrorist organization determined to take over the world!"

    3. Re:Voice Synthesizer/Modulator by kwabbles · · Score: 1

      "What would you have me do with Washington, Destro? Pepper it with spitballs?"

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    4. Re:Voice Synthesizer/Modulator by Suzuran · · Score: 1

      Other options:

      Combine city police from Half-Life 2
      HAL-9000
      Gilbert Gottfried (for telemarketers)
      Stephen Hawking
      The "Whisper" voice from MacinTalk

      Oh, and the option to have any of these with a user-selectable amount of reverb/echo.

    5. Re:Voice Synthesizer/Modulator by braindrainbahrain · · Score: 1

      The voicce of the WOPR from the movie Wargames! :)

    6. Re:Voice Synthesizer/Modulator by jonwil · · Score: 1

      You forgot Darth Vader from that list. Must include the heavy breathing mask sound :)

    7. Re:Voice Synthesizer/Modulator by c0d3h4x0r · · Score: 1

      You forgot Christopher Walken, Peter Griffin, Mr. T, and Sean Connery

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    8. Re:Voice Synthesizer/Modulator by coaxial · · Score: 1

      "It was a metaphor! I wish we lived in a time when I could challenge you to a duel."

  21. Developers! Developers! Developers! by iamacat · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Keep the hardware as it is, release an SDK integrated with XCode. It's really a shame to pay so much for hardware and not be able to play an occasional chess game.

  22. Killer feature: by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 1

    Well, I don't have an iPhone myself yet, but there's 1 feature, that (like its predecessor) it MUST have:

    It should blend!! (fragile souls: please don't go there)
    I mean, how else are you gonna make money off it, reselling it on eBay?

  23. I hate when people call me on their iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't have one so I can't tell them what they are doing wrong. What happens is apparently their face starts pushing numbers on the touch screen while they are talking which then makes the touch-tone sounds. Ugh, so annoying.

    It's a piece of shit design if that can't be disabled. I'm thinking there is something you need to push after dialing to deactivate the touch screen. In any case this is a mark against touch screens on phones.

    1. Re:I hate when people call me on their iPhone by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      The iPhone has a proximity sensor specifically to prevent that. It's not Apple's fault if your friend is using a poorly designed case that blocks the proximity sensor.... Either that or your friend has a defective iPhone---I couldn't tell you which. I've never experienced that on my iPhone.

      In my experience, false button presses are much more likely to occur on button-based phones than on the iPhone.

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    2. Re:I hate when people call me on their iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are not using a case. Besides, I don't know what type of proximity sensor the iPhone uses but it's probably the RF type which means you would need a metal cage to block the signal.

      It's not just one person either, I know several people that have iPhones and they have all exhibited this problem at least once while I was talking to them.

    3. Re:I hate when people call me on their iPhone by MikeDataLink · · Score: 1

      Dude... I'm sorry. But I and my wife both have iPhones, as well as several other of my close friends. I've never EVER seen or heard of this issue. As soon as you get the phone within two inches of your face, the entire screen turns off. End of story.

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  24. what i want in an iphone by overcaffein8d · · Score: 1

    is a hard disk that is at least 80 gb.... or like the new 160.

    though it may be fairly hard to do, i want to actually use it as an ipod.... that's when i would buy one.

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  25. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by Qubit · · Score: 1

    Is there somewhere I can donate $100 to the Linux on the iPhone project?


    How about the OpenMoko? I figure that they could use $100 to advance development on that hardware/software.

    Speaking of which, what does the iPhone have that the OpenMoko doesn't have (or won't have when they do the v2 release)? What needs to be done to get people to choose the OpenMoko over the iPhone?
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  26. Features by bloatboy · · Score: 1

    What would actually get me to buy it is an SDK along with acceptance and even encouragement of 3rd party applications.

    Changing the UI (among other things) would also be a requirement if they want my cash.

    1. Re:Features by Trillan · · Score: 1

      I actually really like Apple's approach to 3rd party software. However, it needs a way to bundle the pages and scripts up as an "application" that's stored on the device and shows up on the main menu. Native API access isn't really necessary, they just need a bit of structure around what's already there.

  27. WiFi Only Mode... by nweaver · · Score: 1

    One thing: I occasionally travel to Europe.

    There are two reasons I didn't get an IPhone a couple days ago:

    The first is "all need landscape entry", as mentioned in the article.

    The second is "WiFi Only mode": When out of AT&T, I don't want it to transmit data over the cell network, only on the WiFi. There is "airplane mode" (no net) and "no wifi mode", but there is no "no cell" mode that I was able to find in 15 minutes of trying with a demo unit.

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    1. Re:WiFi Only Mode... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 1

      This has been solved by one of the third party apps, called something like "NoEDGE" that has already come out. It gives you a handy quick switch to activate and deactivate EDGE.

      A lot of the other complaints I see have also already been addressed by third party native apps (no iChat? There are already some nice AIM clients out there, in active development).

      Now if Apple would just support a real SDK and get out of their absurd mentality, we'd get even better, more well-supported third party apps. Nobody I know is buying an iphone just to use the built-in apps. Every early adopter type I know who bought one has jailbreaked it and is running third party apps. Apple, get a clue.

      Also, cut and paste would be nice and really needs Apple to develop it. And IMAP IDLE built in to MobileMail.app (though I think there'll be a good solution for IDLE soon enough if Apple doesn't come out with it).

    2. Re:WiFi Only Mode... by Reaperducer · · Score: 1

      If you pop out the SIM card, will it do this, or does it kill the wifi, too? If not, this might be a workaround you can use.

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  28. Battery door, native SDK, unlocked by MacDork · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And drop the glass or drop the price of glass repair from $250.

    1. Re:Battery door, native SDK, unlocked by sidb · · Score: 1

      The LCD is glued directly to the underside of the glass, along with the capacitance sensors. If the glass breaks, it all has to be replaced. It's no different than an LCD monitor that way (except it's higher resolution and touch sensitive, so even more expensive).

  29. Nothing by roman_mir · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    didn't care about the first one, don't care about the rest. But I don't have an ipod ither.

    What I really want is a vacation, so that's where my money will go to...

  30. How about less control by div_2n · · Score: 0

    1) Run it on any cellular network
    2) Sync it to Linux (also add iTunes for Linux while you're at it)
    3) 3G

    Add all that and I'll consider buying it. If not, I'll never buy it.

  31. Short list. by mypalmike · · Score: 4, Interesting

    - SW: Todo list.
    - SW: WiFi SIP phone application that I can use with any SIP provider.
    - SW: Dev kit. (Partly so I can implement/port these if Apple or "official 3rd party developer" doesn't.)
    - HW: HSDPA (3G).
    - Service: Wireless sync calendar/contacts over WiFi or Edge/3G.

    I was one of the naysayers, but I ended up buying one of the $300 4GB models a couple weeks back to try it out. Now, it's "from my cold dead hands." Web browsing and email on the iPhone are simply leaps and bounds better than what I had on my Samsung Blackjack.

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    1. Re:Short list. by MtViewGuy · · Score: 1

      The most obvious improvement we'll see in the 2G iPhone will be HSDPA support, which makes it possible for broadband speed Internet downloads without needing to be near a Wi-Fi "hotspot." I believe many European telecom providers have started to roll out since 2006.

    2. Re:Short list. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nokia E61... the inbuilt email is pretty basic but works fine... As for web browsing, I've never encountered a better mobile browser. It's not the prettiest phone on the market but I'm hanging out for Nokia 95 (8gb vers.)... I've had my share of touchscreen phones and I really don't think the masses are going to flock to them.

      a phone should 'serve' me - not the other way around - with me having to always make sure my fingers aren't grubby or that nothing else is in my pocket before I put the phone away. I pitty those who use phones as fashion accessories.

    3. Re:Short list. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I went from an E61 to an iPhone. I'd shoot myself before going back to that utterly slow piece of crap. The only positive aspect of the phone is the browser which is the only one that even begins to come close to Safari on the iPhone. The iPhone is far from perfect and the lack of extensibility is something I only put up with because I have a real pda phone for serious stuff, but to compare it to the E61 is a joke.

  32. Physical keyboard w/ 2nd battery by G4from128k · · Score: 1

    A modest-size physical keyboard with a supplementary battery would make the iPhone (and iPod touch) a very nice ultra-ultra-portable. I'm thinking something analogous to the LandWare GoType Portable Keyboard or the Stowaway Portable Keyboard that was so nice on the old Palm Pilots. An added battery could boost the iPhone life to 10-20 hours of active screen and data use for a full day's (or long-flight's) use of the machine. Sitting on the keyboard in landscape mode, the unit would work well for email, taking notes, webmail, chat, discussion forums and other text-based editing. (I'd also love to see OmniOutliner on the iPhone).

    I know Apple probably won't make this product, but (please, please, please) I hope some third party creates this.

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  33. BlackBerry Ad by c_sd_m · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Is anyone else getting ads for the newest blackberries on this page?

    Mike Lazaridis' view on the 'essence' of the blackberry is that a core team designed and engineered every aspect of the product. The integrated full-picture approach led to the difficult to duplicate product. This seems very close to Apple's design philosophy. In the blackberries it's led to lots of proposed features tested by employees using prototypes. Which ideas were (or weren't) successful is often surprising. So we can list lots of things we think we'd like but hopefully Apple takes their time properly considering and evaluating new features before launching a new product.

    1. Re:BlackBerry Ad by mysterious_mark · · Score: 1

      You forgot to mention that Blackberries have a really good SDK and extended J2ME API's and much optional JSR support where as the I-Phone has no SDK at all. I'll keep my Blackberry until the I-Phone gets an SDK , which could of course be a while. MM

    2. Re:BlackBerry Ad by empaler · · Score: 1

      What ads? You must not use Firefox since you see ads.

    3. Re:BlackBerry Ad by c_sd_m · · Score: 1
      I do use Firefox and I find that it avoids the most annoying ads by default (i.e., pop-up junk) so I don't bother with any additional blocking.

      I solve the problem more concisely on my not-employer-owned machine by running 64-bit Ubuntu. That way I don't get any annoying flash ads even if I want them!

  34. Features Wanted by FatherOfONe · · Score: 1

    I want the following: Note I just bought one for my wife, so I am no expert on the iPhone but here is my list.

    1. Java - I can't believe this phone doesn't have it.
    2. Flash - It may have it, so if so then remove this one.
    3. 3G network speed
    4. Ability to buy songs on 3G network.
    5. Easy sync with Google applications - Calendar, Contacts etc. It sucks now.
    6. Todo list. Perhaps it has one but I haven't found it yet.
    7. Warranty if the phone gets damaged.
    8. Warranty if the phone gets damaged.
    9. Warranty if the phone gets damaged.
    10.Warranty if the phone gets damaged.
    11. Open up the freaking APIs!!! Then Google et all could write apps that I want on the phone. I understand that Apple doesn't want to "support" API's and they want to be able to swap out whatever they heck they want, but that will never happen in the long run. I wouldn't even mind if they forced every 3rd party app to be written in Java and then they just support the JVM, and can swap out whatever low level crap they want.

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    1. Re:Features Wanted by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Java & Flash - I've not really missed them in real use. There are few flash things that are must-haves in my book, and Java would be cool for programming but being able to write native Objective-C apps targeted to the phone would be just as good.

      3G - WiFi is faster, EDGE is OK. I've not really missed 3G and EDGE has had good coverage as far as I have seen.

      Ability to buy songs on 3G network. We'll have to see how the implementation works out, perhaps you'll be able to sample/buy but not download on EDGE. The Touch where the store currently works doesn't have EDGE as an option so we don't know yet what other choices they will make.

      ToDo list - crazy omission. Definitely not there. It even syncs with iCal which does have one!

      Warranty if the phone gets damaged.

      Isn't that called "insurance"? They already have Applecare to cover device failure for an extra period. I don't really know of any other electronics that will honor a warranty for a device that has obviously undergone physical abuse.

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    2. Re:Features Wanted by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      Isn't that called "insurance"?

      Do Apple offer Applecare for the iPhone? I know AT&T specifically excludes the iPhone from being eligible for insurance through them.

  35. It really only needs two things by StarKruzr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    which will enable everything else (short of 3G).

    1) SDK
    2) Uncrippled Bluetooth.

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    1. Re:It really only needs two things by HartDev · · Score: 1

      Is there gonna be a hack for the bluetooth? Nothing irks me more then a useless bluetooth feature.

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    2. Re:It really only needs two things by MacDork · · Score: 1

      1 could solve 2

    3. Re:It really only needs two things by StarKruzr · · Score: 1

      It depends largely on how successful we are in writing kexts.

      Stay tuned.

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    4. Re:It really only needs two things by HartDev · · Score: 1

      let me know what I can do to help. I am not a coder but I am an html and PHP junkie.

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  36. Balmer wasn't wrong by vosgienne · · Score: 0

    If you look at the number of phones that have been sold since the iPhone came out and the future projections, Apple isn't grabbing any huge market share. Windows runs on more phones sold by over an order of magnitude.

  37. How about true multi-OS support? by r_jensen11 · · Score: 1

    How about truly supporting multiple operating systems? Like allowing BSD, Linux, Windows, and Mac users have the same functionality. This doesn't mean that Apple has to provide the functionality, merely make it available (think ipod support for people not using iTunes.) Oh wait, this is Apple....

  38. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by HartDev · · Score: 1

    I will admit I was extremely impatient, yes the OpenMoko looks like it will rock up all the way. But I was carrying a palm pilot, phone and iPod, I needed music to get through work, the calendar to remember anything, and the phone goes without saying. All that and the moko isn't out for the normal consumer yet, not that I would love to code and hack away, I just don't have the time, and the whole point of this device is to say time and make things easier by combining technology......Besides how wonderful would it be to flaunt Linux on the iphone to Apple(the new wanna be Microsoft)? What would be wicked awesome would be getting the Openmoko OS on the iPhone!

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  39. My short list by Atticka · · Score: 0

    Removable battery
    3G
    Better data usage control
    No lock in to AT&T
    Use the contacts on the SIM card

    The SIM card contacts issue is a big one.

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  40. Help design your own by bstadil · · Score: 1

    If you have some innovative ideas. Head on over to IT|Redux and post them as a comment. It|Redux is the organizer of the Office2.0 Conference. This year they gave everyone an Iphone and had special applicatiions made to handle the conference. Next year they will design their own device and the process is on going. They have the money and smarts to do it well.

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  41. How about a delete user function? by Sir_Ace · · Score: 0, Troll


    That way all of you; GUI-loving, latte sipping, look-at-me look-at-me, yuppies can remove yourselves from the planet.

    If we were meant to be high tech we would have evolved to have cups attached to our ears, and strings between us...

    Have a rotten iDay.. Ohh wait, is that trademarked too?

  42. A source other than Apple and ATT by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

    So we can make our own decisions about what code it runs, who it get service from and all the other things they want to lock away from us. (Yes I know about OpenMoko and will be taking a close look at it when it gets past v1.uhoh.

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    1. Re:A source other than Apple and ATT by djh101010 · · Score: 1

      Third party native apps have been available since about 3 weeks after it was released to the public. Simple installers since about a week after that. Games with and without the accellerometers, tools to change your gui's arrangement and appearance, full Unix functionality, and on and on and on. I don't feel particularly locked away from anything; I have apache and a wiki running on mine, can ssh into it just like any other Unix box, and deploy and change apps and files accordingly. The only thing I'm "locked away" from is changing my carrier, and I understand that that was solved about a month ago as well, I just have no reason or interest to change. There is an SDK, it's not from apple but (shrug) not sure why that matters.

      It seems like a lot of the objections to features that aren't there, have already been taken care of by third party developers. Just like was predicted. Of course, Computer World didn't do their research and see what the current state of the mods community is.

  43. bubye AT+T by haggus71 · · Score: 1

    There is only one change that matters for a cell phone: dump AT+T.

    Verizon and All-Tel are rated #1 in customer satisfaction every year, and what does Jobs do? Go with the company rated LAST in customer satisfaction. With that choice, he made a statement about his touch with consumers: it's gone.

    1. Re:bubye AT+T by overcaffein8d · · Score: 1

      damn. they obviously didn't ask me about how much i like my alltel phone.

      but i'm not complaining- my dad's company pays for it.

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    2. Re:bubye AT+T by prockcore · · Score: 1

      I agree on Alltel. It's the little things that Alltel does that make them so great.

      For example, if you order directly from Alltel (as opposed to going to the Alltel store), they'll pay 50% of the shipping.

  44. That's what you want in OpenMoko 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being able to install on an iPhone is a feature lacking in OpenMoko. iPhone is just hardware. Hardware doesn't care. If OpenMoko won't run on it, then fix your OpenMoko.

  45. 3G by mixenmaxen · · Score: 1

    The first version should have had it... In Europe it is standard for even low-end phones nowadays. What good is a phone with a great browser, a great screen and an excellent interface if it takes me forever to see ther frontpage of slashdot...

  46. More space by Belgand · · Score: 1

    If I get a convergence device like this I want it to be able to legitimately replace my iPod. Not one of those dinky little Nano things that can hold a couple of albums either, a proper iPod. Especially since they've pushed into video more heavily.

    This means that I'm going to require it meet the (modest by today's standards) requirement of at least 20 GB of space that was their top of the line 2nd Gen. Moving it up into something far more current would be nice (I barely have enough room now) but until I can fully replace my iPod with an iPhone I don't see a reason to go with it.

    Want to really make it a worthwhile purchase? While third-party software is a complete necessity a Palm emulator (even if it's not available on the CD) would bring in a ton of good applications even if it would be missing the massive benefit of functional pen input (though Graffiti 2 was a distinct step backwards).

    1. Re:More space by sqrt(2) · · Score: 1

      More space would require a hard drive, and then you're going to bring the battery life down to levels that wouldn't be acceptable for a mobile phone.

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    2. Re:More space by Belgand · · Score: 1

      I see the point, but without more space it's not doing much better than any other phone with a small, half-assed mp3 player in it. If they really want it to be a convergence device that allows me to ditch my iPod, phone, and Palm in favor of one device they need to bring the size up.

      Maybe it's just not something that can technologically be done at the present, but that just means that they should be focusing on what they can do properly, rather than cramming in something that can't.

  47. My list by Monkeys+with+Guns · · Score: 1

    1. Ability to be a bluetooth modem.
    2. Terminal
    2.5 SSH client
    3. On screen ESC, Ctrl, and | keys
    4. Flash
    6. XCode SDK

    1. Re:my list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      imagine turning the camera on its side and taking a photo, then when you try to review the photo

      It saves the photo with the rotation you were using when you took it. Even works upside-down.

      Multiple screen sizes doesn't make sense. The whole idea is that they wanted it to be small while still being usable. Make the screen any smaller and you're not going to be able to hit things, or the interface will need to be redesigned to use the smaller size.

      Multiple networks isn't going to happen. Apple signed a five year exclusive deal with AT&T.

  48. That's funny... by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hardware keyboard

    Funny, the lack of a software keyboard or renewed form of Jot was the reason I never purchased a Treo.

    After you use a virtual keyboards, and you find that it changes to symbols that make sense for the context you are in... I never ever want to go back to a real keyboard. Even desktop keyboards I find annoying in the rigidity they offer, especially when playing games.

    UNIX apps? Already got 'em.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:That's funny... by HartDev · · Score: 1

      I love the software keyboard I can type soo dang fast on it! If you already got UNIX apps, maybe it would be fun to see Windows apps, not that I would ever code them, but would try it out if someone else did.

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    2. Re:That's funny... by Yold · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      UNIX apps? Already got 'em.

      How? Explain... can you run MIT scheme =)

    3. Re:That's funny... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you need one of these.

      Personally, I like my keyboard to never ever change. When I press a key I want to know exactly what's going to happen. I even bothers me when numlock gets unset.

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    4. Re:That's funny... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      That's actually sort of what I had in mind, though with that the buttons are still physical and fixed sizes. I actually am a little more impressed with gaming specific keyboards that support overlays with variable sized keys (as shown) - for some tasks different key shapes would be a boon.

      The Optimus also has the problem of being hellishly expensive. I imagine a touch screen in the shape of a keyboard could actually be made for far less!

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      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  49. Flash is up to Apple... by MacDork · · Score: 1, Informative

    Without a native SDK, Adobe is pretty helpless in offering Flash. Bitch to Apple, not Adobe.

  50. For $600, again? by RingDev · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hell, I'm still waiting for iPhone 1.0 to give me a blow job. For another $600, iPhone two better come with a twin.

    -Rick

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    1. Re:For $600, again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, it's not $600 anymore. It is $300 (4G) and $400 (8G) but still steep if you just want a phone.

    2. Re:For $600, again? by DarkHelmet · · Score: 1

      It'll blow you for $1000, but your friend can't watch or else he has to pay $100.

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    3. Re:For $600, again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dark Helmet? That's some nasty sounding shit. I don't know what it is, but I sure as hell don't want it. I'll keep my $1000 thanks.

    4. Re:For $600, again? by jchawk · · Score: 1

      Nice Lebowski reference. :-)

      Do yourself a favor and check out http://lebowskifest.com/default.asp? if you haven't done so already. :-)

    5. Re:For $600, again? by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Have you been on a deserted island? I guess you missed the part that blow jobs are now $399.

    6. Re:For $600, again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not thinking like an Apple user. iPhone 2 needs to come with a replica of Steve Job's dick so that the user can suck on it at any time.

  51. freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought a P800 a few years ago, the first cool phone that can do everything ... well, not really. I was so stupid and bought the P990 a few month ago, and if i ever meet somebody from Sony again i hope he will wear flameproof underwear. In .de a lot people complain that they want a phone, nothing else. I want a phone that can do everything, but back to topic. - FREEDOM! I want to be able choose the carrier, the software, everthing. This is my biggest concern about the iphone right now. I bought the Pxxx phones because it's not some M$ crap, and i now there is a big library of 3rd party software. - gps, i already use it on my P990 with an external gps device and this is so usefull. - 3g, i have it already and there is no way i will go back. - RAM, my phone lacks of RAM, dunno how the iphone is. Multitasking? - speed, i don't want to wait seconds until an application starts. - Keys, you can't play games without proper keys, thats my experience with the P800. A dpad with 2 or 4 buttons on the other side. - SIP/skype/whatever client, very usefull when you have wlan and you are or have to call other countries. - External storage, like sd-cards. (and i hope they will not invent something like iCards like sony with the memorystick duo) disclaimer: i never touched an iphone, this is based on what i read.

  52. trustworthiness, crypto by Sloppy · · Score: 1
    1. Apple, try to remember you're a hardware company. Of all your products, the phones are arguably the ones that most desperately need to be made trustworthy. So open up the software, and don't try to lock anyone into anything (other than getting them to buy your phone).
    2. This should be done by anyone who is doing a massive (i.e. popular) deployment of smart phones: alternate connectivity. When a smart phone is talking to another smart phone, they should use a protocol that totally leaves the POTS system behind, passing completely mysterious datagrams between one another, from the network's point of view. Let people load each other people's public keys into their phonebooks, have the phones exchange a few megabytes of random OTP (phones should be great entropy collectors) whenever two of them happen to be in the same room, etc. And the of course use that capability. But yeah, you'd need to standardize it, so that iPhones can talk to OpenMokos, etc. Don't try to own the protocol or else it will be useless.
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  53. lame article, fit for Digg only by Jeremy_Bee · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was struck by how stupid most of the 15 things listed in the ComputerWorld article were and how the list seemed to be a big confabulation of every complaint we have ever heard about the iPhone. Don't we know enough already to steer clear of any article that starts with "15 things..." or "10 great ways..."? :-)

    Several of these "things to fix" are things that only third parties can accomplish, several more require entirely new hardware, and most of the rest are already slated to appear when Leopard comes out. At the very least, the article could differentiate between things requiring new hardware, and things that could be 'fixed" on the original iPhone.

    For software related issues, it's hardly worth talking about until Leopard is out as it's pretty clear at this point that the iPhone was originally intended to be released in a post-Leopard world and is not "all that it was meant to be" at the moment. For hardware related stuff, GPS, G3, better camera, and second camera are too obvious to really mention (over and over again).

    Ho-hum (yawns)

    1. Re:lame article, fit for Digg only by ironwill96 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I found their list of 15 items pretty much all of my major complaints. Coming from someone who actually owns an iPhone and uses it daily..a lot..i've had basically all of the same complaints as those on that list. Stupid omissions and a lot of the things they could add with software updates (iChat / AIM /MSN Messenger support). One main thing missing from that list for me and thousands of other customers: Louder ear speaker volume. The iPhone is way too quiet and you can't hear people if there is any background noise in the area you are in. Most people mention it as an issue, but there are a few who say their's works great so maybe it is a hardware defect of some sort. However, it is iPhone 1.0 and its only been a few months, i'm willing to wait till next year and then upgrade to iPhone 2.0 or what not which i'm sure will remedy some of these deficiencies and oversights.

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    2. Re:lame article, fit for Digg only by dkf · · Score: 1

      For software related issues, it's hardly worth talking about until Leopard is out as it's pretty clear at this point that the iPhone was originally intended to be released in a post-Leopard world and is not "all that it was meant to be" at the moment. For hardware related stuff, GPS, G3, better camera, and second camera are too obvious to really mention (over and over again). I'll tell you what would be a monster hit of a feature to add: a haptic layer for that screen so that you can feel where the buttons (etc.) are. Right now, you have to look much more at an iPhone than other phones with real buttons since with the other ones you can use your sense of touch, and this matters because humans really are touchy-feely creatures. With some haptic stuff (and no, I don't know how to do it; if I did, I'd be applying for a license to print money^W^W^W^Wpatent right now) that could all change. It doesn't even need to be very fancy; just enough so that you can feel the buttons' locations (better yet, feel them responding to being pressed). I'm more and more sure that this is the way, and I'm not entirely sure that it's not already been invented in some lab somewhere...
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    3. Re:lame article, fit for Digg only by gordo3000 · · Score: 1

      so for a phone to work properly, it is completely dependent on the OS on my computer to get full functionality?

      give me 3 features of the iPhone that are somehow dependent on running leopard vs windows or any other version of OSX... I'd love to actually hear them and realize how glad I am I didn't waste money on a phone that would be sub par unless I anted up 1k dollars to get a new computer.

  54. iChat!! by ElGanzoLoco · · Score: 1

    -Please, please, please give us iChat, even if only through WiFi (that way the carriers don't lose too much business). I'm not even considering buying one if it doesn't have iChat. I can live without videoconferencing, but it would be trivial to add, so... -Ability to install any 3rd party applications, including Skype and SIP software. Not considering buying one as long as I have to hack it to install stuff on it. -As long as it doesn't get a lot more storage (over 40 gigs), it won't replace my current (60gb) iPod, so I still would have to carry 2 devices. -Being able to use all your songs as ringtones should be a given. My understanding is that the music majors don't want that to happen, but then why can I do it on my 2-year-old Sony Ericsson? -GPS would be kind of nice, sort of, but I can live without it.

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  55. Freedom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It isn't hard at all.

    Freedom.

    You already have a powerful embedded OS and a decent input system. Sure, some extra default apps might be nice; but it doesn't really matter.

    Let us use our hardware without playing your damn lockdown games and we'll make the device what it ought to be.

    (Note to Apple apologists and fanatical corporatists: I acknowledge Apple's right to lock down their device however they want; but It'll be a cold day in hell before I buy one.)

  56. hype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like less hype. I can't even get one in my country, and I've been swamped with this crap.

  57. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by Kenshin · · Score: 1

    I drag and drop my music... in iTunes.

    I find the music I want in my library, drag it to the iPod icon on the side, and drop.

    You can do that, you know. "Syncing" is only optional.

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  58. two things off the top of my head by wickedsteve · · Score: 1

    I don't need a lot of stuff. I would never use GPS or IM.
    What I want is a video camera and stereo bluetooth support for playing music.
    Of course a video camera would need more capacity like 32GB or more. Who would not want a cheaper price and more storage?

  59. Oh, I Have a Suggestion! by morari · · Score: 0, Troll

    How about a microscopic explosive device, which is implanted into the skull of an iPhone 2.0 consumer upon use. Once a sufficient amount of people have been "tagged", we press the big red button back at HQ and watch in glee as everyone stupid enough to pay such a ridiculous price for a telephone dies a very messy death.

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  60. Blue Tooth Profiles by altarity · · Score: 1

    I bought one after the price drop. I'm seriously considering going back to my Treo 650. I'm totally flabergasted that the iphone hardware supports the 2.0 Bluetooth Standard and only the Headset profile is turned on. I totally understand what people are talking about now, when they say Apple is a control freak with their Kit.

    It's almost like they haven't been able to make using Bluetooth "Apple Easy" so they just don't turn it on.

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  61. Verizon by justfred · · Score: 1

    0. Verizon, or preferably carrier-independent
    1. More OSX apps
    2. Pocket Quicken
    3. GPS
    4. Bluetooth keyboard compatibility
    5. Combo stereo headset/microphone for mp3s or phonecalls.
    6. Bluetooth sync
    7. More memory. 80GB should be fine.
    8. Development kit (or development tools with XCode/Mac).

    Basically I need it to be equal to or better in functionality to my 4-year-old Treo 650.

  62. Let me count the ways... by SpeedBump0619 · · Score: 1

    Well, there's only a million billion possibilities, but some highlights:

    1) Haptic response (specifically for the keyboard)
    2) Stereo bluetooth
    3) Swappable battery
    4) Geolocation (GPS, AGPS, tower triangulation, celestial navigation for all I care)
    5) Non-AT&T
    6) Use accelerometers for more than just view rotation...maybe press and hold home button for pan and zoom
    7) Video recording

    Most of these could be (or *are being*) accomplished with:
    8) SDK for third party drivers/applications (solves 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, and maybe 7)

    and maybe:
    9) open source core drivers/applications (keyboard, Bluetooth stack, video) to kickstart #8

  63. my list by Srsen · · Score: 1
    I have had an iPhone for a couple of weeks. While it's almost a perfect device, there are a few minor things I'd like to see added:
    • 3G - EDGE is painfully slow
    • a VOIP client
    • a native IM client
    • voice memos - could be an add-on to the Notes app
    • games
    • a scientific calculator
    • true multiple calendar support in the Calendar app
    • "landscape" keyboard support in more apps
    • Blackberry support
  64. Annotate pdf files using a stylus by maynard · · Score: 1

    Some of us want to do work with the thing. Not even considering to buy until it serves a purpose.

  65. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by HartDev · · Score: 1

    I know about that, but I want to have a folder named "Songs from Prom" (just and example...haha) and then drop whatever songs into that folder, not playlists and not after iTunes allows me. I wanna file browse in Windows, Linux, Mac OS X with or without iTunes.

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  66. You can already use an external battery by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Actually there are a lot of external battery packs already for the iPod, that also work with the iPhone (though you might want to check for compatibility to be sure).

    It would be cool if they would support external Bluetooth keyboards, but really if they'd just support rotated keyboards in all applications that would be plenty good enough for me.

    What would be cool is an external keyboard that also displayed keys dynamically, but on a larger scale...

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    1. Re:You can already use an external battery by smenor · · Score: 1

      ...if they'd just support rotated keyboards in all applications...

      Agreed. It's just stupid that they didn't do that already with the initial release.

  67. what I'd like to see right now by ed1park · · Score: 1

    is the ability to SMS groups and multiple people.
    And copy and paste function would be nice along with the tilting/sideview for the email function like safari.

    Any one have any solutions for the SMS problem? I hear you can use websites, but you gotta pay. What a pain...

  68. Some functionality I want is: by beef+curtains · · Score: 1

    1) the ability to send a text message to more than one person at a time. If I'm meeting 7 people at the bar, I don't want to type & send "I'm at the bar, I got us a table in the back" 7 times.

    2) the ability to forward a previously-sent text message to someone else.

    3) drag-and-drop song/video transfers from iTunes (which is how iPods already work...I drag-and-drop songs from iTunes to my wife's 2nd-gen iPod nano all the time, so why can't I do the same thing with my iPhone?!).

    4) the AutoCorrect functionality to be reversed - if I want to use the suggested word, I select the popup. Right now it's the other way around, which doesn't make sense.

    5) the ability to change the order that in which phone numbers show up for a contact - for example, if I want "Work" to show up before "Home", I should be able to press "Edit" and move them around, the way I can move songs within an On The Go playlist.

    6) to be able to specify which alerts I hear for new text messages, new e-mails, etc..

    7) better native Gmail support.

    8) a headphone jack that accepts most headphone cables without an adapter (seriously, would it be so bad to make the diameter of the recess in the case a few millimeters bigger?)

    9) the damn thing to work with my Griffin iTrip Auto. Why is it incompatible? Was it necessary to make the iPhone's dock connector function differently than the iPod's, at least as far as audio output is concerned?

    10) the option to turn off specific aspects of syncing...for example, I want it to sync contacts, calendar entries, songs, videos, and always backup e-mail & text messages, but I'd prefer to manually sync photos (I don't use the camera feature very often, so it's annoying to have iPhoto popup everytime I sync).

    Unless there's something I don't know (which is very possible), I think these are all pretty reasonable requests that could easily be fixed in the next version. Hell, a lot of these are software-related and could be fixed for this version. I've never sent or received an MMS, but I see a lot of people calling for this functionality, so I guess it would be nice if they threw that in too.

    As far as improvements, I'd love to see GPS & 3G. I know, I should join the club.

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    1. Re:Some functionality I want is: by kisrael · · Score: 1

      Given the fat-thumb nature of the beast, I think the AutoCorrect as is at least "makes sense" though agree an option would be nice... though I would guess Apple is shy of over-optioning the beast.

      In terms of audio output... I've used it with some speaker setups designed for it, and while I see the "this device wasn't meant for use with X, go to Airplane mode?" dialog, everything still works... as far as I can tell, it's them saying "uhh, you're going to get lots of weird GSM-ish staticky noise that this isn't shielded for"

      That said, the thing I miss the most is ubiquitous landscape.
      Also, they need to smarten up the algorithm for the magnifier, ESPECIALLY in landscape: it needs to go to some place ON THE DAMN SCREEN where my thumb isn't. -5 points for excessive duh.

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  69. iphone 1.0 by neuroPuff · · Score: 0

    The iphone just came out this summer - can't we just live in one generation at a time?

  70. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by heinousjay · · Score: 1

    I haven't tried 7.4.2 yet, but as of 7.4.1, drag & drop of music wasn't working for me. I had to make playlists and sync those to get the music on the phone. Perhaps I'm missing the magical modifier key?

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  71. a cupholder by JazzyMusicMan · · Score: 0

    obviously it needs a cupholder, everything new and shiny does, damn, my $499 laptop brought a retractable one, and the iphone initially cost just as much or more!

  72. Just Got an iPhone Last night... by pjludlow · · Score: 1

    I got my iPhone last night, I was upgrading from a 4 year old sony erickson model (free with activation), so it is quite the upgrade. However after running it through a few things over the period of about half a day this is what I'm surprised isn't there.

    No support for dragging/dropping a song/movie in iTunes. This was strange since I've been doing it for ages on an iPod. I now have to create a playlist, add my songs into that playlist, then sync the playlist to the iPhone. Too many steps in my opinion to add a few songs. Please make the behavior similar to the iPod.

    Would like to have support to delete multiple emails at a time, and an option to delete all the emails in the trash at once. For some reason when adding my gmail account it loaded up all of my emails for the past 3 weeks (around 300) so I had to go and manually delete each of them. I'm not sure why it loaded so many as I had most of the conversations archived on my gmail account and there weren't many in my gmail inbox when the iPhone started retrieving them.

    There has been some strange behavior connecting to WiFi routers. At my home it could see my network, and I typed my password since it was locked. After trying, the iPhone said it could not connect. After trying multiple times I ended up changing the security on my router to WEP from WPA and it worked. However my friend had the opposite problem and changed it from WEP to WPA and it did work for him. This could be a router issue, but I don't understand why my iPhone had problems when my mac didn't connecting to the same WiFi.

    If you are talking to someone on the phone you cannot edit contact information. This is a pain since sometimes I am getting a new address or phone number that I need to add while I'm talking on the phone to someone. Wish this would be implemented.

    Other than that I've been impressed with quite a few features I've stumbled across. I'm sure I'll find other things I'd like updated but I've only had it for less than a day.

    1. Re:Just Got an iPhone Last night... by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Finally a post that points out legitimate issues. Although, I think you can put the call on hold by pushing the main button, then navigating to the contacts menu, and adding it. You may have to unpause them to ask for the number again (if its like a longer number with area codes and extensions). But yeah, it would be nice to have them keep talking as you finger it in (that sounds obscene).

  73. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by HartDev · · Score: 1

    No, you gotta play tricks to have things setup the way you want. I mean I gotta setup my computer to have the files in a way that makes sense to me, then I gotta configure iTunes and then I gotta configure the iPhone, good crap on a stick aren't these technologies suppose to be saving us time?

    --
    To see a few of my Android apps goto: www.hartwired.com
  74. A vibrating cock port :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want a port that my cock will fit into, complete with vibration function.

  75. Multi-Touch Pong by wildsurf · · Score: 1

    Pong. Multi-touch Pong. Two players, on one screen. No question about it.

    Also:

    1. The ability to delete a screenful of emails at once.
    2. Bluetooth headset battery level display in menu bar.
    3. Ability to turn off EDGE roaming. (This will be in 1.1.1, so I hear.)
    4. Higher resolution!! 160dpi is just enough to make me wish it were 240dpi..
    5. Voice-dialing, 3G, GPS, 32GB, WHUXGA, and WTFOMGBBQ!

    -Ben

    --
    Weeks of coding saves hours of planning.
  76. MMS outdated by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    MMS is for cavemen that don't have phones that can support email. MMS seeped up from the technical limitations of phones ages ago, as a specific standard to get images to people in a primitive time. Can't we all move on?

    Plus I can email anyone a photo, you can't necessarily MMS just anyone.

    Why not ask for video capture instead? That makes a lot more sense.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:MMS outdated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MMS is a good idea for the same reason SMS still is. It's specifically created for cellphones, and is simple. I can send an SMS or MMS to anyone I want. Most of them cannot read email on their phones, they can all receive SMS and MMS. Not offering MMS seems a bit like making an email client that refuses to display anything that's not HTML.

      Obviously this will be region specific as well. Where I live MMS is fairly wide spread. Subscriptions with unlimited SMS and MMS are also gaining market. Rates per MB of data for Edge/3G on the other hand is pretty high.

      My original thought when the iPhone came out was that it looked amazing. Both the device and UI. But I saw no reason to actually buy one. Apart from the looks and UI it seemed years behind the times. My opinion hasn't changed.

    2. Re:MMS outdated by dwater · · Score: 1

      mod parent up...

      old tech isn't necessarily bad. I often use MMS to send photos to my wife and friends. It wouldn't work to use email - it's not nearly as immediate.

      --
      Max.
  77. you people aren't thinking big enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iPhone 2.0 Marketing Requirements List

    - 0.2 TB music+video storage
    - built in voicemail
    - water resistant to 100m
    - runs Ubuntu in a VM (use simultaneously with phone)
    - 3 meter diagonal 1080p color laser-projection video display
    - GPS maps
    - PS2 emulator in a VM
    - Gbit ubiquitous wireless internet $10/month
    - DVR and satellite receiver
    - Radiothermic generator 25 year lifetime
    - 1 KW pulsed laser personal defense system
    - built in 50 W floodlight (refocus the video projector)
    - 30% smaller
    - tungsten/titanium reentry-rated case (up to 3000 deg C / 100G)
    - personalized wrap-around graphics on the case, from a JPG
    - price point is $300

  78. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I drag and drop my music... in iTunes."

    Doesn't dragging your media into iTunes and then dragging it to your iPod create two instances of the file. One where it is and one in the ../iTunes/* directory? If it does, that sucks to chew up unnecessary HD space or cause you extra effort managing the files.

  79. 2 things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    1. Streaming Internet Radio (FM just sucks)
    2. A supported SDK (which will encourage more applications of all varieties)

  80. SMS enhancements among others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ability to SMS multiple parties with a single message
    Better support for keyboard use while orienting the phone horizontally
    -Should be able to use the keyboard this way for emails especially
    -Should be able to view more of the usable screen when held horizontally (maybe make keys a little squatter)
    Email needs to have fewer temporary lockups especially when deleting using POP
    Easy method to open web pages in another window
    Don't reload a web page everytime I come back to the browser and have multiple windows open
    Autoload my stock/weather apps when my email is checked
    Better memory of preferred wireless networks (would be nice to be able to order which networks to attach to first)
    Hosted VPN solution (maybe part of .mac) to secure wi-fi connections
    GPS of course
    Wireless sync of calendars with Google calendars
    Add some good games

  81. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by HartDev · · Score: 1

    I dunno, there should be a "no-nonsense" guide to Apple products, guides that do not have marketing integrated into them, also a list of known frustrations and "work-a-rounds" for those frustrations.

    --
    To see a few of my Android apps goto: www.hartwired.com
  82. ...and the best game by scafuz · · Score: 1

    Duke Nukem forever

  83. A Theory by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My theory is, they'll release the SDK along with Leopard and try to make Leopard a premiere mobile development platform.

    Probably just a fantasy, but it sure would be nice.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  84. well... by prxp · · Score: 1

    1. embedded Light Saber
    2. replicator chip
    3. Anti-gravity chip
    4. isolinear optical chip

    The rest, iPhone already does it all.

  85. I do not know. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do not know. Jobs hasn't told me what I want yet but as soon as he does it will be great!

  86. The perfect response by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Windows Me?

    F U.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  87. These are a few of my favorite things... by Fierythrasher · · Score: 1
    I've had my iPhone for 7 days...and I have to exchange it for a new one. What I'd like from this new one:

    1) iTunes to not tell me my iPhone is corrupt and reformat the f---ing thing every time I try to sync.
    2) The iPhone to not lock up for 30-45 minutes when I try to unlock the thing.
    3) The iPhone to not tell me that it cannot find an Edge network when the bright blue E is laughing at me from the corner of the phone.

    Now improvements I'd like on the iPhone:

    1) The ability to take any song I legally own DRM free (i.e. MP3s I ripped from my own CDs) and make 'em ringtones. Come on...I understand the business model behind NOT doing it, but PLEASE??? My WINDOWS phone could do it.
    2) Remove icons from the home menu (and add replacements). I'm not overly wealty, all my money went to the iPhone, I don't need a "stocks" button mocking my inability to save money.
    3) How about having the wallpaper actually SHOW UP sometime other than when I'm unlocking the phone. That's not a wallpaper, it's a photo op.
    3) I want the ability to download an MP3 or picture from Safari and save it to the iPhone for review/playing later. If I get a podcast I want to download it straight into the iPod portion of the iPhone. If I find a JPG on Safari, let me make it someone's picture or my wallpaper.
    4) I love the voicemail interface...why are the other interfaces so clunky? Why must I delete e-mails one at a time? No delete all? No multi-select? Huh??? This is GUI 101 stuff.
    5) I'd like EVERYTHING to be able to go widescreen (most spefically e-mails) rather than just Safari and iPod
    6) MORE MEMORY 8GB is for n00bs (used ironically as I can't stand l33t sp33k)
    7) A more realistic battery life indicator. Thing's like a gas tank...somehow I'm at 80% for two days but then it goes from 20% to powered off with no hope for life in 5 minutes. WTF????
    8) Better iPod interface...how about a simulated clickwheel on the touchscreen? The current iPod interface...not so much
    9) MMS Please
    10) 3G. But that's more AT&T than Apple. And having had T-Moble for a year...I'll stop bitching about how bad AT&T is now. I cried because I had no shoes...
    11) A bluetooth headset that's not $100 freaking dollars.
    12) Built in games. With an icon on the home menu. Come on...solitare at least?

    1. Re:These are a few of my favorite things... by dave420 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The 3G choice was Apple's, not AT&Ts. They're not on AT&T in Europe, yet there still is no 3G on the iPhone over here...

  88. Features. by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

    1. Voice dialing and Voice commands. Why not allow me to boost control other features of the phone by voice.
    2. Play music and or other audio through a bluetooth headset. Not just through bluetooth headphones. I wish I could listen to my sprint TV through the blue tooth headset.
    3. Not on AT&T
    4. Hight speed access.
    5. tethering by cable and bluetooth.
    6. bluetooth syncing.
    7. SDK.
    8. Allow you to use it mass storage.
    9. Allow you to use it as a display for your iPod Classic.
    10. Support UWB USB.
    11. Sync calander and notes with Google Calander and Notes.
    12 Sync bookmarks with Google.

    --
    See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
  89. Open API by argent · · Score: 1

    Without the ability to build native applications for it, it's not even on my radar.

  90. Here in the UK, we expect the following... by Wonderkid · · Score: 1

    - HSDPS for speedy connectivity, like our fantastic wireless broadband laptop cards (way better than 3G) - 3MP or greater auto focus camera with optical zoom And the world will like these things.... - A2DP wireless bluetooth because wires are tangly poos - 10 preset zoom levels for the (Safari) web browser and other zoomable apps (on screen buttons labeled 1 to 10 to jump to your fav zoom level) - An improved on screen keyboard is not required as it won't be long before a 3rd party produces a wireless or wired external tactile keyboard embedded in a nice case - I have some other original ideas but may just keep them too myself as they may be to hot to give away...

    --

    O'WONDERWe're working on it.

  91. I am a nokia person, but have ideas by dindi · · Score: 1


    1. user accessible battery
    2. network independence
    3. SDK or at least a scripting language ported with access to all functions, camera sms, and even be able to script what happens if XY calls.,,,

    Then I would consider one. Why ?

    Well I went with the e65 Nokia, a very nice (I thought) business phone with a close to iPhone price tag (at least here)

    but nokia lately puts crap out

    -Nokia dropped voice dial tags (seems in all 3rd gen S60 - you cannot record them, but now there is voice recognition that does not work at all - saying Cristina would turn the phone off, "home" would turn the radio off, while "Carlos" would dial "Dindi SIP number" )

    -Nokia does not support his phone ... nokia software does not support it 100%, and there is no firmware - freezes, crashes glitches, problems .. e.g. pressing 1 long to dial voice mail would disable the whole numeric pad till a reboot .....

    If iPhone had something like this, I would complain .... but still that battery and AT&T just kept me back !

  92. Sorry, I forgot to insert some HTML line breaks. by Wonderkid · · Score: 1

    My bad. Dreaming of an iMac Touch. Now that would be hot.

    --

    O'WONDERWe're working on it.

  93. iphone2 wish list by scolbert · · Score: 1

    As someone who truly loves my iPhone this is a great way to end a Friday, making a wish list, here goes:
    1. 3G (duh!)
    2. some clever way to cache those wi-fi username/password webpages
    3. a harder case, to avoid scratching and breaking on drops
    4. video calls (don't care if this is "iChat" or over the carrier's net)
    5. a way to fresh the web page in safari without having to scroll back to the top of the page
    6. locations aware (GPS or cell-tower location based info)
    7. sync to outlook notes
    8. other carriers!!!! / unlocked phone
    9. better 3rd party app support
    10. a iPhone nano version, cheaper, smaller, more mass market (duh! like apple isn't going to do this!!)
    11. better camera; video/sound capture
    12. a stock app that isn't 20 mins delayed (come on, can't we get past this silly 20 min delay)
    13. integration with back-end carriers mins left in plan (*646# is kind of silly)
    14. more memory
    15. ability to rearrange icon (decide what's in the dock)
    16. ability to control roaming
    17. voice-over-wifi like the t-mobile offering
    18. native Exchange integration to sync calendar, etc. over the internet
    19. full sync over the internet
    20. bottle opener...
    and with #20, off to open a beer.
    have a nice weekend,
    sammy, with iPhone

    1. Re:iphone2 wish list by Inakizombie · · Score: 1

      I'd think that for video calls, a camera on the front side of the phone would be needed, which would just be cool. =D Though I can just see California drivers with portable videophones. x.x

    2. Re:iphone2 wish list by Guy+Harris · · Score: 1

      some clever way to cache those wi-fi username/password webpages

      And maybe they could come up with a clever name for it too - something such as "Keychain", say? :-) (And, of course, at least if you have a Mac, sync with its Keychain; perhaps the Windows version of iTunes could sync with the Windows equivalent.)

      a stock app that isn't 20 mins delayed (come on, can't we get past this silly 20 min delay)

      I suspect that's not an issue of the iPhone but of the stock quote provider - they may want to charge for up-to-date quotes.

  94. No Phone by SKPhoton · · Score: 1

    I want the ability to turn OFF all phone and data capabilities and use the iPhone purely as an iPod. That way, if you travel abroad, you can still use your iPhone for entertainment without getting slammed with heavy fees due to it constantly going out to check for voice mails, text messages, and so on.

    1. Re:No Phone by Inakizombie · · Score: 2, Informative

      Airplane mode perhaps?

  95. openness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only as a last resort would I every buy a device that I have to hack to install custom software.

    Stop fighting the customer, and let customers run software as they please.

    1. Re:openness by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 1

      While I wouldn't buy a non-open device like this either, the problem is most customers don't know how to utilize openness so they don't care. As long as that is the case, there will be sufficient market-- in fact a LARGER market for dumbed-down devices like the iPhone than there will be for a more open device.

      In fact, the very reason that the Mac is as successful as it is with it's dumbed-down interface is that a large number of people are more comfortable with a dumbed-down interface than they are with a power interface that expects them to make intelligent choices. Then again, the most popular OS is one designed by a guy named Gates who loves complex puzzles and seems to think we do too-- so there's hope at least...

  96. How about... by no_opinion · · Score: 1

    Cut and paste?! I use it all the time on my blackberry.

    Wireless sync (unless it's already in now ;-P )

  97. GPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GPS. Maps is an awesome app, but I have had several cases where I was traveling and didn't know where the heck I was and had someplace I needed to be. GPS alone would be enough incentive for me to buy the next one. A 'directions from here' button would be sweet.

  98. Graffiti 2 by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

    .. sucked.

    I'm so glad I still have my old Palm III, Graffiti 1 was good. Although I'm quite fond of the Fitaly keyboard now.

  99. iPhone by bakamaki · · Score: 1

    I want $600 instead.

  100. !AT&T by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

    Since AT&T doesn't cover where I live, I guess I'd have to say compatibility with another carrier. Until then it could offer unlimited free music and movie downloads and it'd still be useless for me.

    --
    Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
  101. Exchange, EVDO, user replaceable battery by zerofoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    These would be nice to roll out to corporate users, but these requirements are a necessity.

    Full exchange support - imap is not enough.

    EVDO this implies a verizon version of the iPhone exists. Companies have big cell phone contracts, typically with one cell phone company. Starting a new corporate account with a different service provider for one phone is not an easy sell.

    User replaceable battery - one big DUH. When your average CxO decides to talk on his phone all weekend, it is a nice thing for him/her to carry an extra battery.

    -ted

    1. Re:Exchange, EVDO, user replaceable battery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      User replaceable battery - one big DUH. When your average CxO decides to talk on his phone all weekend, it is a nice thing for him/her to carry an extra battery.

      ahahahahahahahahaha, no

      -Steve J.

    2. Re:Exchange, EVDO, user replaceable battery by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      I think the battery issue is not nearly as big of an issue as most people make it out to be. I use my phone all day at work, and listen to podcasts/music the entire time, then use the iPod for the commute home, and the battery is still about 75% full. I don't know how long it takes to charge, but I've gone three days before having to charge it. Besides, if I had the letters CxO in my job title, I'm pretty sure I'd have a cool little iPhone dock in my Benz/Bimmer/Aston/Porsche, etc.

  102. wish list by tgibbs · · Score: 1

    1. Built-in Keynote, with VGA quality video out
    2. GPS
    3. Apple-authorized 3rd party apps
    4. Bluetooth keyboard capability
    5. Java
    6. Bluetooth stereo headset
    7. Voice dialing
    8. Flash
    9. EDGE is fine, but more speed would be nice--but only if it doesn't compromise size or battery life.

  103. You must be an iPhone owner... by MacDork · · Score: 1

    I was struck by how stupid most of the 15 things listed in the ComputerWorld article were and how the list seemed to be a big confabulation of every complaint we have ever heard about the iPhone.

    I was struck by many things on that list, but not because I'd heard them ad nauseam. I was struck by it because of the number of problems I didn't even know existed.... You can't sync with Bluetooth? No iChat? Can't be used as a hard drive? I'm surprised to have learned this, and I'm VERY glad I opted for an N95 right about now.

    Several of these "things to fix" are things that only third parties can accomplish

    Well then, good luck on that! Since there's no native SDK for third parties, you may be waiting a while :D That one's also on the list BTW...

  104. That's why Apple makes iPod Touch by tepples · · Score: 0, Troll

    How about the ability to use it in the huge areas of the country that aren't covered by their one pitiful provider? A cynic would claim that it's not Apple's job to make sure you're covered; it's a real estate agent's job.

    If I bought one now, it'd be about as functional as an iPod, and I already have one of those... If Wi-Fi coverage is better than AT&T EDGE coverage where you live, Apple would like to interest you in iPod Touch. You can even use iPod Touch to watch YouTube from the closet.
  105. linux support by maryjanecapri · · Score: 1

    I have not purchased an iPhone for one reason: Lack of Linux support. If Apple will open it up so that the jpilot team (or some other team) can get support locked in, i'll buy one. until then - no way.

    --
    nature loves variety::society hates it get your variety at http://www.monkeypantz.net
  106. a few things... by smenor · · Score: 1

    Better Mail.app integration

    Keep my folders and rules synced with Mail.app, and keep track of which messages I've read whether I did it on the iPhone or on my MacBook.

    Select, Delete, Copy, and Paste

    Other people have said it but this would be huge.

    Open a bookmark folder in 'tabs'

    The ability to open all of the pages (or RSS feeds) in different tabs is a great feature of the desktop Safari, and should be carried over to the iPhone's Safari.

    Consistent handling of orientation

    For some reason, sometimes tilting the iPhone changes orientation from portrait to landscape, and sometimes it doesn't.

    As much as possible, it should behave the same way, regardless of context.

    1. Re:a few things... by smenor · · Score: 1

      Sorry to reply to myself but one big thing that I forgot - a better volume control

      Some people complain it's too quiet... I complain that (in a quiet environment) it's too loud.

      We could all be satisfied if the volume control used logarithmic scaling or something clever to allow me to turn the volume down as low as I want it (without it going to silence) and to allow the pro-deaf people to make it as loud as the hardware amp will allow.

      For bonus points - add in an adjustable feature to compensate for changes to the ambient noise. Every time I walk in or out of a building, I have to manually adjust the volume, and considering that there's a mic built into the headphones, I don't see any reason why that couldn't be automated.

      While I'm at it - a few more things...

      • Exposé
      • Spotlight
      • Undo/redo
      • Terminal.app
      • SPAM filtering for Mail (just in case that wasn't implied by the more consistent handling of Mail synchronization)
      • More gestures (what happened to all the cool things from FingerWorks?)
      • All the obvious stuff people have already said (unlocking; GPS receiver; voice dialing; per-contact ringtones; an actual API for 3'rd party apps; and, of course, 3G)
    2. Re:a few things... by VGPowerlord · · Score: 1

      "Select, Delete, Copy, and Paste"
      As long as it's not done by voice recognition.

      --
      GLaDOS for President 2016! "Well here we are again. It's always such a pleasure." -- GLaDOS, 2011
  107. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by Qubit · · Score: 1

    I agree: for most of us, we won't ever have the time to hack on the OpenMoko.

    That being said, even if we aren't going to do development work, by buying Apple's hardware we're supporting Apple, not those people producing open hardware. If the iPhone were being sold at cost, it would be a different story, but I'm pretty sure that Apple is making a pretty penny on the hardware.

    This is why all us geeks on Slashdot should:
    Buy the OpenMoko -- it's got open-specs on the hardware and software.
    Buy AMD chips -- AMD (unlike Intel) is cooperating with the LinuxBIOS project.

    Speak with your money: support those who support FOSS.

    --

    coding is life /* the rest is */
  108. iPhoneBugList.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Besides the more useful tactic of sending suggestions to Apple, a publicly accessible bug/wish list is taking shape at iPhoneBugList.com. There are plenty of other places for this information, too, but I suppose the day isn't complete without a few iPhone stories on /..

  109. What's so hard about carrying 2 devices? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Everything else should be second unless you want to carry around a second phone to actually make calls on. In fact, I do carry a cheap Virgin Mobile phone and a separate MP3 player. I'm sure that there's a prepaid plan on the Verizon or Sprint network that fits the needs of iPod Touch owners.
    1. Re:What's so hard about carrying 2 devices? by adisakp · · Score: 1

      Because if I buy a $500 phone and pay $70 a month for phone service, I shouldn't need another phone to carry around (with another phone plan) to make my calls.

    2. Re:What's so hard about carrying 2 devices? by tepples · · Score: 1

      Because if I buy a $500 phone and pay $70 a month for phone service, I shouldn't need another phone to carry around (with another phone plan) to make my calls. Then don't buy the $500 phone and the $70 a month service. Buy the $100 phone, the $10 a month service (or more if you use your phone other than in urgencies), and the $300 handheld computer.
    3. Re:What's so hard about carrying 2 devices? by adisakp · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you already bought the $500 phone with the $70, it would kinda suck to find out you need another phone if you want to make calls you can hear in a crowded area or slightly noisy area.

    4. Re:What's so hard about carrying 2 devices? by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      Then again, if you buy a $500 phone without checking this kind of things beforehand, there's no one to blame but you. Thing is, the iPhone is more of a status symbol than a practical phone (expensive, very locked, big, low volume, no third party apps, etc...)

  110. Less advertising and fewer fanboys talking/writing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Less advertising and fewer fan boys. Anything that makes me have to hear anything more about it would be nice.

    It's just a phone and bad mp3 player since iTunes is required.

  111. Three words... by KC7GR · · Score: 1

    User-replaceable battery. 'Nuff said.

    --

    Bruce Lane, KC7GR,

    Blue Feather Technologies

  112. Teledildonics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    5. Wait for early adopters' dicks to fit back into their pants before a price drop. No you're mistaking it for the teledildonic attachment. It's being used as sort of per-seat dongle to enforce the DRM by binding it with a single user.
  113. The feaure I want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Press a button, get $100!

  114. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by HartDev · · Score: 1

    my laptop is a AMD, but the built in wireless card is broadcom and is a beast to get running with Linux, I know I am a hypocrite when I buy anything Apple and at the same time try to support Open Source...BUT I did buy a FireFox Hat from the mozilla website, and I get free stickers with it! What I hope to see is that one Open Source OS can load onto EVERY piece of hardware that can be ran by software, so that if I hook up a crazy cool mp3, toaster, tv remote, into my computer the (let's say)Linux OS can tell what it is and give it the Linux kernal that can run on it and take advantage of all the hardware is physically capable of!

    --
    To see a few of my Android apps goto: www.hartwired.com
  115. Terminal.app by idiotnot · · Score: 1

    1. is the subject, because I've found a remote ssh client to be indispensable.
    2. SIP Client
    3. A provider other than AT&T. I use T-Mobile, because that's the only carrier with decent signal at my house (no, I'm not out in the boonies....Sprint and Verizon had great coverage here before Hurricane Isabel took out their shared tower....the new one is just far enough away that the signal is too weak for inside use)

    I'd buy one if numbers 1 and 3 were fulfilled. Right now, I'm using a T-Mobile Wing, and am not overly impressed. To me, Windows Mobile has regressed in many ways going from version 5 to version 6....it's certainly a lot more unstable.

  116. Powering off... by SnoopJeDi · · Score: 1

    Actually turning off when it's supposed to would be a pretty good change.

    1. Re:Powering off... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like what you actually want is a manual that reads itself to you.

  117. Full Bluetooth Support by lcreech · · Score: 1

    Bluetooth is crippled, cannot transfer the address book and headsets only work with the phone function and no ipod support for bluetooth or bluetooth headsets.

    1. Re:Full Bluetooth Support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iPhone's Bluetooth is lacking

      I'd like to see improved sync, file transfer, and dial up networking (DUN)

      http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4833263

  118. Mandatory - 3G by PipingSnail · · Score: 1

    3G for me to be interested. I was really disappointed. We've waited for some time in the UK to get the iPhone. I had assumed that being Apple it would be a premium product. The pricing is. But the product doesn't have 3G, even years after 3G has been available in the UK. I've never had or wanted a mobile phone. Recently been thinking getting one, so held out for the iPhone, but no 3G, no sale.

    If the iPhone gets 3G I will get an iPhone. Don't talk to me about Wifi, its not the same and for the needs I have it won't cut it.

    3G (or better) or nothing.

    A proper SDK is also required. There are apps in my head that would be perfect for the iPhone but which I don't envisage being possible without an SDK.

    A GPS (or location based on GSM tower transmitter sector triangulation) option would be very useful too.

  119. Open stuff is good by Nursie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The ability to install third party apps, like just about any other smartphone EVER would be good.

    Decent (3G) connection would also go a long way, replaceable battery, SIM...

    The thing is locked down it's ridiculous. But people stillbuy them...

  120. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? by Kenshin · · Score: 1

    Only if you allow it to. You can un-check the option that allows iTunes to manage your files, so they stay in the same places and no duplicates are made.

    Personally, I drag files into iTunes, and then delete the originals.

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    Does it make you happy you're so strange?

  121. iPhone 2 desires by gary21cp · · Score: 1

    1. Bluetooth synch 2. Better volume control 3. Configurable double-tap home button (said to be in next firmware update)

  122. Give us PIM Search, Copy/Paste by Deslock · · Score: 1

    Christ-in-a-sidecar, give us PIM search and copy/paste.

    BTW, watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXgsQhiGeag (mostly because it pokes fun at the slightly-creepy iPhone tutorial dude, but also because it's actually a smart copy/paste implementation)

    Apart from that, flash in Safari, a spreadsheet, PDF reader, Chess, internet radio, and RDC/VNC clients would be nice. Of course, 3rd party apps already gave us a dictionary, iChat, ssh, etc so those other apps can't be far behind.

    If we're talking hardware changes, all I really want is a GPS (everyone bitches about 3G, but there's no coverage for it where I am anyway).

  123. An obvious omission by edwardpickman · · Score: 1

    I'm sure this is redundant but none of the high mode posts had it and it's hard to read 200 posts just to avoid a "redundant" mod, but the biggest missing feature is movie support. It's kind of a bizarre ommission to me given Apples love of multimedia and the fact that most cell phones with a camera support movies. My last PDA I bought three years ago had a movie clip function. I'm fairly sure it'll be added in 2.0 but it was odd to see it missing from the launch given the cost of the phone. A lot of the requests are a little nitpicky but there are some things needed. I'm fairly sure the SDK issue will be addressed within the year since iPhones are here to stay. Memory is the single biggest complaint to have especially with movie support. For anyone complaining about needing 80 gig for their music collection ya might want to not complain so loud or the pirate squad will come knocking. Movies can suck down memory faster than anything though. I hear the 16 gig is coming out before the end of the year which gives me hope there may even be a 32 gig on the horizon. 16 gig is adequate but 32 gig would make me very happy. A lot of the issues seem more about tweaking a first generation device. With the price drop I think most of the harshest criticisms haven't really panned out and anyone would have to consider the iPhone a solid success. Having other service options would be a major one to me and more plans but it's a solid product and I kind of missed the window since I had to replace my phone just before they came out so I'm waiting until the next generation to break my contract.

  124. Fix A2DP - Music on Bluetooth Headphones by HopeOS · · Score: 1

    The missing A2DP functionality means that my nice Motorola S9 headphones will answer the phone, but won't play music. I bought an Oakley "icombi" to resolve that, and now it plays music fine. Of course, for some reason, the phone will no longer ring through. Perhaps some additional fiddling is necessary.

    Otherwise, I'm very happy with my iPhone.

    -Hope

  125. What do I want? by taustin · · Score: 1

    To note even be aware that it exists.

  126. CDMA by swschrad · · Score: 1

    don' want no steenkin' GSM. I work for a company whose wireless division is CDMA based. the GSM guys don't pay me anything. I want iPhone on OUR network.

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    if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
  127. MMS??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are you kidding? i admit i just skimmed through some of the responses, but i'm shocked that more people aren't screaming for MMS??! yes, i know how to use email as a workaround but come on..... having to tell all your friends to send pictures and such as an email just because you have this special phone that cost $400 that can't do picture messaging natively is a little much.

    add to that in order of preference:
    LET ME USE THE DAMN RINGTONE MAKER W/OUT having to buy the song from itunes and paying an additional .99
    native ichat
    give me data storage option
    video capture
    share internet connect. with laptop via wifi
    bluetooth / wifi send/receive files with other iphones and/or computer

    i believe all of those can be accomplished through software updates, so lets get to it.

  128. Add an ir port.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And make the works coolest TV remote control.

  129. my iPhone 2.0 list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    keyboard
    firewire
    USB jacks
    audio I/O jacks
    built-in THX certified stereo speakers
    optical drive
    giga Ethernet jack
    PC Card slot
    DVI out

    1. Re:my iPhone 2.0 list by SCPaPaJoe · · Score: 1

      I have one of those already! The iDell laptop!

    2. Re:my iPhone 2.0 list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anonymous Coward here because I just couldn't pass this up. I am too lazy to register and my screen name would have been 'Papapoon'.

      I think the guy wants a laptop instead of a phone. Optical drive for a cell phone? Pc Card slot...come on buddy..

      add 400$ more and get a laptop BRO.

    3. Re:my iPhone 2.0 list by Zartog · · Score: 1

      Great list, but we've already got one--it's called a computer. The IPhone isn't (yet) meant to be an all-encompassing technology. It's just successfully blending together some of the things Apple has historically done well--multimedia. To include "THX stereo" would take up more space than the rest of the system, and the PC Card slot is already reaching antiquity; what would you even plug into it with USB, firewire, and ethernet connections already built into the system.

  130. Not a bust? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The predictions about the iPhone being a bust have so far been way off the mark"

    Really. Is that why they gave up $200 of profit on every phone after just two months? Not even Microsoft dropped the price of the Zune with such speed and percentage.

    When the iPhone hype has completely died down, Apple has a LONG way to go to make a dent in the mobile market. They're learning the hard way that the only mobile carriers that will play ball with them are ones that have nothing to lose. The top guys, Verizon, Vodafone, they will never share money with Apple. AT&T was losing such ground to Verizon quarter over quarter that they pretty much had to find any device that would stop the bleeding, even if that meant giving sub fees to Apple.

  131. standard usb port by brentonboy · · Score: 1

    and the drivers to support it so i can plug in a keyboard, camera, printer, or any other USB device using the standard cable.

  132. How about... by raddan · · Score: 1

    ... buttons?

  133. Not much, it's pretty darned good now by jht · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see the ability to handle password-protected PDF, Word, and Excel docs. Mainly because I used Passwords Plus on my old Treo, and I still want a decent replacement (even a password-protected page in Notes would be enough). And I would like to see a small LED under the glass somewhere towards the top of the device, so I can see at a glance if new mail or voicemail has arrived. I'm not concerned about the lack of tethering. EDGE sucks for that, anyways. The keyboard's pretty good, though I had to get used to it.

    If real GPS functionality could be added without costing me battery life, that'd be a great addition. Same with 3G. The battery life on mine has been terrific, and I don't want any new features that'll cost me any of it. I had a CDMA Treo - I know about crappy cellphone battery life.

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    -- Josh Turiel
    "2. Do not eat iPod Shuffle."
  134. Not By Apple by nuzak · · Score: 1

    That's my #1 desired feature. Apple demands that we genuflect to the altar of awesome for a phone that has:

    1. A non-replaceable battery. Fine that the battery's got a lot of cycles. How's that help people who take trips and carry a spare battery because they don't have a charger free?

    2. Exhorbitant repair costs. More than half the cost of the phone to replace the glass.

    3. Crippled bluetooth

    4. Low volume.

    5. Lack of basic features like searching contacts. Or SMS, so we can talk to our friends who aren't enlightened enough to have an iPhone.

    6. No SDK. A lot of the software problems could be forgiven if we didn't have to beg you to fix them, but could run alternative apps instead.

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    Done with slashdot, done with nerds, getting a life.
  135. The Damn thing creates aweful audio interference by entertainment · · Score: 1

    The iPhones audio quality is lacking sorely, the micorphopne is barely good enough, the speaker and earpiece are worse. But even more frustrating than that, iPhone creates terrible audio interference wherever I go in my daily tasks as a post production professional. It actually interferes with most of the apple attached hardware we use - protools, built in apple audio etc. Its quite disturbing when a 1000 watt audio system starts clicking unbearably loudly, your phone rings a few moments after and everyone in the room thinks you are a total tool. Just my 2 cents

  136. Run Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So I can run useful software on it.

  137. iPod 2.0 should be a total re-design -- by barbam · · Score: 0

    The device is absolute junk to anyone who cares about security and business functionality -- They really need to start over from scratch, think about security and integration into the corporate world, expand the options available (including carriers) and make something that can be priced competitively / realistically. The only people that this thing is good for are the fanboys, but they'll swallow any load that Steve Jobs coughs up -- Seriously, why would anyone sane person buy one of these things?

  138. Keynote presentations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to be able to drive my Keynote presentations (or Powerpoint, or even just pdfs) off my iPhone/iPod. That plus the ability to takes notes with a stylus on the screen would save me carrying my laptop.

  139. Few things needed to make a Palm PDA killer by poopie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a palm faithful for years and years, it was with great reluctance that I jumped ship to the iPhone. The browser and media player on the iphone are FANTASTIC. I can't say enough good things about them. There are however, a number of problems I've had dealing with my transition from Palm to iPhone.

    - Few key *NATIVE* apps that I can't or don't want to replace with a web-based app: Let's face it, EDGE or wireless networking isn't good enough everywhere to completely depend on for frequently used apps. I want a local password manager app. I want a multiprotocol IM client. I want ability to record voice and video clips. I want a global search function. I want a draw/paint/notepad app where I can draw things like I do on cocktail napkins. I want a *REAL* todo app that ties into my calendar. I really miss my car maintenance/gas mileage app.

    - mail app. Make email able to open any audio/video attachments with "itunes" multimedia player. Give me per-email account config options for # of messages to download, how many to keep. How about download and keep all messages until free ram less than X? Need ability to search email subject, to:, and email body.

    - Integration features: I want my phone to "guess" my location based on cell towers, wifi access points and show a 'you are here' in Google Maps. I want to be able to select text from a webpage, and have the option of emailing the text with a link to source page to anyone in my address book. I want to be able to enter a phone number in the "location" field for a meeting and be able to touch the number on a meeting reminder and have the iphone dial my meeting number.

    - Sync: Please oh please, let me sync my calendar with Google Calendar and Google contacts - I'd like to be able to do it wired or wirelessly. Add support in iTunes for syncing with Mozilla Sunbird. Add support for syncing with multiple calendar sources that have different sync locations and rules -- let my sync my work calendar and have events show up in red. Let me sync my personal calendar and have events show up in blue. Let me be able to toggle viewing my wife's personal calendar on and off as I wish and have it show up in a different color. Let me schedule events for multiple calendars. Please also add support for syncing with Palm Desktop. There aren't many good free PIMs on Windows. Outlook blows. Not everyone or every company uses Exchange. I wasted days trying to get 10 years of Palm data into outlook and into my iPhone. In the end, I only got about 80% of it over. That's a tragedy -- Apple should make it trivial for a Palm user to switch to iPhone with all their data.

    - Browser: Flash, Flash, Flash... oh and bluetooth printing support

    - Remote access: If you don't open up the iPhone, at least give us a multipurpose remote access app. I want to choose from the following options: 1) text-based ssh console, 2) RDP client that support multi-touch screen scaling and screen tilting, 3) VNC client that supports multi-touch screen scaling and positioning

    - Hardware enhancements: Bluetooth - give me a tiny, foldable bluetooth keyboard and iphone stand that pairs with the iPhone so I can put it on the desk and type faster. Keyboard folded over should be about same size as iphone. Give us Stereo Bluetooth support and sell a stereo bluetooth headset with a MIC for phone use too (We hate wires). Keep larger flash drive capacities coming. Keyboard slider might make an interesting device - I won't be typing any novels on my current iPhone.

    - Provide a *FREE* SDK for 3rd party development. Don't force me to jump ship to a gphone in 1 year. Let me hack my iPhone without worrying about Apple updates needing me to "reformat" my device and resync all my data. Come on, now!

    - iTunes - let me grab new podcasts wireless and sync up info when I sync with itunes

    Did I mention native, multiprotocol IM client? Oh, well let me mention it again. Let me specify my own XMPP/jabber servers too so I can connect with my corporate IM servers.

    Lastly, one app I re

    1. Re:Few things needed to make a Palm PDA killer by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      - Integration features: I want my phone to "guess" my location based on cell towers, wifi access points and show a 'you are here' in Google Maps.
      I too have been wanting this, and just this afternoon I was totally blown away:

      GPS (sorta, more like wifi and cell tower triangulation) on iPhone

      I tried it out (on the East Coast), and it worked at my office and my house. It locates you based on nearby Wifi hotspots or celltowers, then automatically launches the link to pretty close latitude and longitude coordinates in Google Maps native application on your iPhone, so you can easily get directions from there to anywhere.

      You need AppTapp installer on your iPhone to install this, then it sends you to their website to create an account.

      Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with Navision (the company that makes this software). I just tried it out when I read the article on Macrumors
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      "When the president does it, that means it's not illegal." - Richard M. Nixon
    2. Re:Few things needed to make a Palm PDA killer by abhi_beckert · · Score: 1

      You make some really good points, and I'm willing to bet many of them will be solved over the next year or two. I'd like to comment on a couple of them:

      Provide a *FREE* SDK for 3rd party development - all apple sdk's are free, they only charge for the conferences discussing how to use them. An iPhone sdk is almost certain to happen, and if the free mac sdk's are any indication it will be a state-of-the-art sdk when it comes. Most likely they decided it wasn't important enough to delay the initial release, a good sdk is very hard to build. It's not like electronics where you can decide to use flash instead of hard drives (ipod classic vs ipod nano) at the drop of a hat. An sdk has to be almost perfect on *day one* to succeed. If you fail to hit that your only real option is to limp along with it as long as possible, then throw the whole thing in the trash before starting over, which is millions of dollars in wages wasted. Once you publish an API, people will scream at you over even the tiniest changes.

      Google Calendar Integration - To quote this article: "Apple's iCal, which is built-into Mac OS X, can be used to subscribe to your Google Calendar, and will automatically check Google Calendar every few minutes to check for new items." Apple is unlikely to ever port iCal to windows, but it's free if you buy a mac... you should consider an intel mac if the feature is that important to you.

    3. Re:Few things needed to make a Palm PDA killer by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      I want my phone to "guess" my location based on cell towers, wifi access points
      It already does something like this, but I'm not sure how. I live in San Antonio, which is a huge sprawling town, yet anytime I search on Google maps (Guitar Center, for example) it picks the closest one to my location in San Antonio, without me having to type San Antonio or anything else. SOMETIMES it sends me to somewhere in California or something weird, but I would guess that is a limitation of the googlemaps.app

      Nice post, btw.

    4. Re:Few things needed to make a Palm PDA killer by Serhei · · Score: 1

      Oh my god! I need to buy a Mac to take the best advantage of my iPhone! That's really STUPID design from Apple!

    5. Re:Few things needed to make a Palm PDA killer by dakna · · Score: 1

      - mail app :

      Not only mp3/iTunes integration, but also longitude/latitude maps integration:

      1 - Click on Link to open a location in iPhone map app
      2 - Send current marked location in map app via email

      I have read it is not possible to do that (no iPhone on hand) ... can not understand why not, this would be a great feature. As far as i know it is possible with google videos.

  140. Conan already told us by Necroman · · Score: 1

    Conan already give Apple a bunch of wonderful ideas for the iPhone:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=1xXNoB3t8vM

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    Its not what it is, its something else.
  141. What I want? by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1, Funny

    What Do You Want In iPhone 2.0?
    • No more hype.
    • No more insane amount of articles over a phone that just happened to come from Apple.
    • No more people talking to me about how they had to wait for Apple to release a iPhone, and then they didn't release it in the UK when they released it in the US, so they had to buy it off ebay or something and how it's so special because it doesn't have buttons.

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  142. some pr0n would be nice by xednieht · · Score: 1

    seems like a waste to let that nice big screen go unutilized

    did i say that out loud?

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    Hope is the currency of fools
  143. LEAP/PEAP for wifi by skeftomai · · Score: 2, Informative

    That would be nice. Many organizations (including my school) use LEAP for network authentication.

    Would it be possible for this to be implemented via software updates or a third-party app on the current-gen iPhone?

  144. Re:The Damn thing creates aweful audio interferenc by smenor · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure that's an issue with GSM using time division multiplexing, and that it has nothing to do with the iPhone, itself (except inasmuch as it is a GSM handset).

  145. Some simple UI wishes... by lelitsch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    (1) Make the horizontal keyboard available for every application, not just Safari.
    (2) Copy notes between Mac/PC and the iPhone
    (3) Make locations in Google Maps save able
    (4) Song controls in CoverFlow
    (5) On-off switch for auto-correction. It's really good for English, but try to type a French/German/Italian message. Oh, yeah, international keyboards. Some of us are fluent in more than one language.

    Other than that, kick AT&T to offer a non-extortionist international data plan.

    1. Re:Some simple UI wishes... by stewbacca · · Score: 1
      I'm not sure about your #3, and #5. My locations are in Google Maps. What do you mean by save? I've had my phone since August 8th, and every location I've serached for is still in there. I'm sure #5 will be addressed on November 9th, when the iPhone goes onsale in Germany.

      What I'd like in cover flow would be the volume buttons to be reversed. As it is now, you push the button to the right to decrease volume and left to increase, which is backwards from the volume meter.

  146. Seven things by bar-agent · · Score: 1
    1. Send an SMS to more than one person at a time.
    2. Bluetooth file transfer of photos and basic ringtones (not necessarily music).
    3. Bluetooth contact, event, note transfer to other phones.
    4. Bluetooth stereo audio and handsfree device support.
    5. To-do list.
    6. Location, even if it's only cell-tower based.
    7. Bug fixes, in particular, iPod playlists.
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  147. Ideally... by OGC · · Score: 2, Insightful

    - Hardware Keyboard
    - 3G
    - Better Camera
    - Less smugness

    Oh Wait.

  148. Simple by chord.wav · · Score: 1

    GPS, 3G and any other hardware acronym you may come up with.
    Annndddd..
    Open Source Operating System. Leave the rest to the crowd...

    1. Re:Simple by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty certain that due to FCC rules regarding 911 services they wouldnt be allowed to offer it if it didnt already have a GPS receiver. Now, whether they offer or allow any software that would let you use that capability for navigation is an entirely different story.

    2. Re:Simple by abhi_beckert · · Score: 1

      GPS isn't required, all 911 needs is GSM localization. The iPhone does have that, though it's not being used by google maps unfortunately.

  149. And GPS of course, how could I 4get? by Wonderkid · · Score: 1

    With some Steve Steve software.

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  150. Simple: A message light and voice dialing by mcguirez · · Score: 1

    Even my oldest phone had these two features:

    1) Some kind of message light. Now I have to pick the thing up and press a button to see if I missed a call. This doesn't have to be fancy. I had a Pink Floyd CD with a blinking light in the spine that ran for, I don't remember exactly, something close to 5 years.

    2) Voice dialing. Like it or not, my old $25 cell phone would allow me to record voice tags for a limited number of contacts. My old $50 phone would analyze speech with no training. My new $500 phone does neither and make me press a series of virtual buttons (with no tactile feedback) requiring visual attention. Bah!

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  151. IRdA by SethJohnson · · Score: 2, Interesting



    Perhaps a not-so-expensive feature would be IRdA like the palm has. Then you could run it as a universal TV remote control and also car door unlocker. Oh, if they could partner with the auto companies to have it open your car door and also start your car, well that would be cool. Speaking of cars, if they could stream music from the phone to the car stereo like iTunes can with the Airport Express/Extreme, that would be helpful in getting rid of all these horrible FM transmitter gizmos that always suffer conflicts with existing stations.

    Seth

    1. Re:IRdA by olip · · Score: 1

      FM transmitter gizmos that always suffer conflicts with existing stations

      Nah.

      existing stations that always suffer conflicts with FM transmitter gizmos

      Fixed that for you. You see, I'm not keen on hearing Celine Dion when passing you on the highway.

    2. Re:IRdA by truespin · · Score: 1

      Perhaps a not-so-expensive feature would be IRdA like the palm has. Then you could run it as a universal TV remote control

      Yup, that would be nice - but I'm hoping the bluetooth/wi-fi capabilities of the iPhone are utilised so the iPhone can operate as a remote for my Mac mini PVR/media centre...

  152. Bluetooth Dial-Up Networking profile. by Cerebus · · Score: 1

    What good is unlimited cellular data if I can't use it with my laptop?

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  153. Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next easy question?

  154. Having just bought an iPhone by banuk · · Score: 1

    the one thing i'd like the most is this version to last a little more than a couple of months. that's all I ask

  155. To start by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 1

    The best possible wifi range possible, and wimax if that ever takes off. The ability for it to function as a VoIP (using an open protocol such as SIP) client over any wireless internet connection, along with the removal of the requirement to activate it with AT&T (or at all, if one wants a VoIP-over-wifi-only wireless phone)

    Along with costing less, and the ability for developers to port their own applications to it.

  156. Re:Open stuff is good by bnenning · · Score: 1

    The thing is locked down it's ridiculous. But people stillbuy them...

    Well, I bought mine only after the jailbreak and unlock processes were confirmed working. So I have an unlocked phone with a development environment and lots of native apps. Now, Apple may foolishly try to break support for this stuff in a future update, but I've come up with a brilliant countermeasure of not installing said update.

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  157. Uhm.... Okay by GuyverDH · · Score: 1

    1. Someone other than Apple make/brand/sell the phone.
            Let's face it, Apple doesn't have a history of making good quality products cheaply. They make cheap products expensively.
    2. An off switch.
    3. Replaceable batteries.
    4. Reduce the size by making it a flip open (length-wise fold)
    5. Use real switches on the sides instead of a touch screen. They are too easily scratched/smeared/smudged.
    6. Open service plan - any carrier, anywhere.
    7. Price accordingly - ie - less than $100 for the top model.

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  158. If I could design the iPhone 2.0... by ArCh3r · · Score: 0

    ... the features I would add in no particular order are:

    1. Expandable Memory - I should be able to swap playlist without having to resync with iTunes. Locking you in to 8G is crap. But a much larger default memory option would also be nice.

    2. 3G - But dont lose EDGE. 3G is not available everywhere so let it fall back to EDGE.

    3. Video Capture - Why not. Not a must have but since I'm making a wish list, its in there.

    4. GPS - This would be awesome working with the maps application they currently have. Again, not a must have.

    5. Native IM client - Nuff said.

    6. Ability to use ANY headphones without having to use an adapter. This is just an annoyance that does not need to be.

    7. SDK - Allow anyone to make apps for the iPhone. Apple can make the ones they 'certify' available via iTunes. All the others, use at your own risk.

    8. I useful Calendar - Integration with google calendar, Outlook, ... Have it sync just like the address book. *This is probably my #1 feature* - Make is look like iCal or google calendar ( color-code multiple calendars )

    9. Nicer mail client - Support multimedia attachments better. Email can 'flip' like safari. Page through email like you page through photos.

    10. Flash support in safari - Too many sites today use flash not to support it in this 'full featured' browser.

    11. Maybe more buttons. - Add another rocker or two to the sides. Use them to fine tune your flipping through coverflow, shrink/enlarge photos, next/previous song. Its a pain in the ass when you are using it as an iPod, lock the screen and then want to just skip to the next song.

  159. This is the stupidest question ever. by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 1

    What should anyone want?

    The ability to write software for the device. Then everything else will pretty much take care of itself.

    The fact that they won't do that for you is all the proof you need that Apple respects the RIAA and AT&T more than its customers.

    1. Re:This is the stupidest question ever. by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      What should anyone want? The ability to write software for the device.
      Wow, what a very slashdot-centric answer. Of course 98% of the public would never write software for their phone.
  160. Nothing by Timtheenchanted · · Score: 1

    Because I don't want one.

  161. In regards to the GPS... by CaptinHankey · · Score: 1

    ...I'm pretty sure there's already a hack that helps out with that. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/iphone-gps-hack-works-301459.php Now, this may not be "real" GPS, but it's better than nothing. Obviously though, it would be nice to see a real GPS unit built into the iPhone, or at least have this type of peer-collected GPS data function built in.

  162. Re:The Damn thing creates aweful audio interferenc by Chabil+Ha' · · Score: 1

    My CRT monitor does something similar with my Nokia 6010. My screen distorts ever so slightly like there is a tremor in the Force...and then the phone rings. It's funny how the interference causes the monitor to 'know' the phone is going to ring.

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  163. A couple of things by proverbialcow · · Score: 1

    CDMA and unlocked, for starters.

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  164. Don't we know enough already to steer clear of any article that starts with "15 things..." or "10 great ways..."? :-)

    maybe. If you could, I don't know, make a list of the 10 or 15 reasons why we should steer clear of any article that starts with "15 things..." or "10 great ways.... Then I could be convinced.

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  165. WOW iPhone sucks more then I thought by ItsLenny · · Score: 1

    so I have a palm treo 650 (yea the older version not even the newest one) and it has like 90% of the things that people want in a new iPhone... so whats the big deal with the iPhone?

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  166. Flash, Record Video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear Apple,

      Please fix the current iPhone to:

    1. Support Flash
    2. Allow the recording of video

    Thanks,

      The World

  167. Those are lame dude by backslashdot · · Score: 1

    Those are all software updates. They can add those to the current iPhone

    I want (web browsing on the go or while waiting for crap is very important to me):

    1. Much higher resolution LCD ... At least an 800 or 1024 resolution longways (480px iPhone is 160 ppi, human eye can easily resolve up to 1200 ppi - pixels per inch) -- Sanyo Epson and Samsung have already shown demos of LCD's with this capability .. so asking for 400 ppi is not unreasonable. Make the screen longer -- i could care less if it screws the aspect ratio.

    2. GPS - duh

    3. Video conferencing capability - include 2 cameras .. the cheaper one facing the user

    4. Better camera that is capable of photographing small text - off a monitor or magazine or some newspaper print (current iPhone can't focus if the newspaper is near, and doesn't have enough resolution to show details if it's held far). Also make the camera work with sliding action instead of releasing a press.

    5. 3G - obviously.

    6. Improved screen durability - "glass" should be replaceable

    7. Touchscreen should work with gloves

    8. LED flasher that periodically blinks when you have a missed call, voicemail, or sms -- come on my ooold sanyo phone had that

    9. MUCH LOUDER SPEAKER

    On the software front:

    10. Voice recognition text input and SMS readout ..or some kind of fast voicemail only transmit method .. that is instead of ringing the person .. you should be able to record a voicenote and send it off to them and they get it as a
    voicemail ..no need to ring them and wait for the voice prompt etc.

    11. Make it easy to have applications for it (a sandboxed Java virtual machine that the OS can easily suspend etc.) Files can be stored like that.

    You can check back in 2005 I posted on here saying "we like to super size" and that phones should be touchscreen with a larger screen .. looks like Apple thought the same way and was working on it. So I hope Apple thinks similarly this time too.

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=163341&cid=13644457

    1. Re:Those are lame dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Much higher resolution LCD ... At least an 800 or 1024 resolution longways (480px iPhone is 160 ppi, human eye can easily resolve up to 1200 ppi - pixels per inch) -- Sanyo Epson and Samsung have already shown demos of LCD's with this capability .. so asking for 400 ppi is not unreasonable. Make the screen longer -- i could care less if it screws the aspect ratio.
      A resolution for the eye measured in ppi is pretty meaningless; the size you can resolve is measured in degrees (or arcminutes, arcseconds) rather than linear dimension. So if 1200ppi is your claim, what distance is that at? The laptop I'm using is to me clearly pixelated at a distance of around 6 inches, but not noticably when I'm further away. Some of that could be my eyesight, of course, but the point remains that perception is angular rather than linear, so I'm surprised if a resolution of 1200ppi is warranted at a normal user distance.
  168. Size by dockwej · · Score: 1

    Shrink to half the size it currently is.

  169. my list by josepha48 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1) installable applications and a dev sdk; 2) todo list; 3) keyboard should be rotatable like the images; 4) option to turn off the screen rotation, imagine turning the camera on its side and taking a photo, then when you try to review the photo; 5) large, medium and small options for screens so that people have a choice; 6) works on other networks like sprint, verizon and t-mobile ( usa ); 7) higher resolution camera ( 2mp is good, but next year it will be standard ); I can't think of anything else right now..

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  170. What I want from an iPhone 2.0 by johnkzin · · Score: 1

    1) Open SDK for 3rd party native apps
    2) Open SDK for 3rd party native apps
    3) Open SDK for 3rd party native apps ... then a long distance of importance down to

    4) the iPod Touch was supposed to be an iPhone without the phone. It's not. It lacks a lot of things that the iPhone has (editable calendar and notes, things like that). I want an iPhone that can specifically be bought with the intention of never activating the phone service. I don't mean "unlocked to use with other cell carriers", I mean "no carrier at all".

    5) even with AT&T service, the ability to turn off SMS TXT messages. Don't want em. Can't spam-scan them, so just turn it off. (the only SMS TXT messages I get now are all spam).

    6) support for bluetooth keyboards, and landscape mode for all apps (some only work in portrait mode).

    7) support for either bluetooth tethering to any compatible device OR ability to act as a wifi base station for any wifi client.

    8) more google integration. Maps is nice, but what about getting google to finally deliver IMAP support and have that work with the iPhone's mail client? and syncing contacts and calendar with google apps? (and bookmarks with delicious or something)?

    9) the 3rd party SDK would handle this, but: native ssh client. Maybe a native VNC client, too. Maybe a couple native VPN clients. (I have all of that on my nokia N800 ... so I don't think I'm being unreasonable on that front).

    10) support for bluetooth hard drives, like the Seagate D.A.V.E.

    I think that about covers it for me.

  171. A few quick and easy changes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GPS
    3G
    Updated OS with Copy and Paste and Greater Consistency
    User Removable Battery
    $299

  172. Well since you asked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First before listing some of my thoughts I have to get one thing off my chess. Apple needs to pull its head out of its ass and realize that there is more potential in these new devices than just covering for a fancy iPod or Cell Phone. The iPhone isn't a cell phone at all, rather it is a very portable computer, that happens to have a Cell function associated with it. Once they grasp that people will want to use the cell just like they would a laptop they will start to see uncontrollable sales.

    #1
    More RAM Yes I said RAM! I suspect that this would make it easier to get things like FLASH up and running in the browser. A whole host of other technologies that eat RAM might then also be possible.

    #2
    Disk mode.

    #3
    Allied with the above is a file browser of some sort. One needs to be able to manage you file system and inspect and launch files. I see this as a key issue to wider adoption of the iPhone.

    #4
    More Flash. Preferably much more, like starting at 16 gigs and going up from there. This is a no brainer and I suspect we will see such a phone real soon now. We are talking room here for the multimedia files of course but also files that may be more corporate in nature.

    #5
    A SDK. It is nice that Apple has a somewhat open attitude with the device, but there is nothing better than an officially supported development environment.

    #6
    copy & paste

    #7
    Give the current applications the ability to access the flash file system in the normal way.

    #8
    Provide a software distribution that is targeted to the demands of the corporate world. This doesn't need to be a default part of the iPhone, it just has to solve the needs of corporate IT departments.

    #9
    Mail needs to go world class. It currently isn't to bad but could use a bunch more refinement.

    #11
    GPS

    #12
    A camera free variant. I shouldn't have to rehash why, but I will say it is a real need.

    #13
    Full bluetooth support. I do mean full too, I would want to be able to do everything I do on PC as far as port access, enumeration and etc.

    #14
    A USB port that takes a standard connector.

    #15
    A much larger external battery. Swapping batteries is the only way to go when the going gets tough.

    #16
    With the GPS model Apple really needs to offer up a complete set of maps. Make them a free download and Apple will quickly whip out some of the high priced GPS vendors.

    #17
    While I have issues with most Cell Phone cameras Apple could take the high road and design a camera that has extremely good quality and integrates into the package. Sure this would mean designing in some sort of bump or hump for the lens and assembly but it ought to be easy and worthwhile.

    #18
    How about a real calculator with advanced functions. Preferably one that has predictable accuracy, handles large numbers and has user selectable feature sets. That is a mode for scientific, software development, finance or whatever.

    #19
    How about a SMP version of the phone. Performance counts you know.

    #20
    Don't be an ass about Linux support. In fact integrate the syncing to work with GNOME desktop. and ship a iTUnes version to the Linux users.

    How did I do for right off the top of my head? As you can see some basic stuff. Also I'm not too keen on the software side of things, that is already getting taken care of. It is Apples responsibility to offer a set of system apps that support the Independent Software Developer. I believe that is is Apples responsibility to supply a file browser, and perhaps some low level tools and an installer. The rest is really up to the user and developer.

    Dave

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  174. Bluetooth headset in iPod mode by shmlco · · Score: 1

    And BTW, my only "must have" ability would be the option of using a Bluetooth headset in iPod mode. While it would probably suck for music, mono would be just fine for audiobooks, podcasts, and TV shows.

    I bought the Apple headset, but don't use it simply because it's too much of a pain to switch back and forth between it and earbuds when I go from phone to pod mode (and back again).

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    1. Re:Bluetooth headset in iPod mode by DRACO- · · Score: 1

      I have a set of bluetake stereo bluetooth headphones which work in stereo music mode and also in celluar mode mic included. Tho I havent tried the functionality with a cell phone with both music and cell, it will connect to two separate devices like my psp with bluetooth adapter for music 'n gaming and will also connect to a bluetooth cell phone for calls. Just hit the button on the side to switch from one to the other.

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  175. New Features by architimmy · · Score: 1

    I like my iPhone. In 3-5 months when they release a new model that has all the things I wish mine had I will still like my iPhone. I'll just wish I had waited to get the new one. But I'll still like my old, out of date, feature crippled Gen 1 iPhone.

  176. two words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    satellite tv

  177. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger. by Pathway · · Score: 1

    Note: I do not own an iPhone.

    General improvements we want with all devices...

    Cheaper - We want a cheaper iPhone. I'm sure Apple is already working on this.

    More Open - I want to be able to add my own apps. I know why Apple is against it: the AT&Ts of the world don't want the phone to work on other networks, so they make an agreement with Apple that it won't be hacked. Well, Mr. Jobs... figure out a way for the next iPhone to do just that...

    Smaller, yet Bigger. - The iPhone is an exellent mix of "small enough to fit in your pocket" and "large enough to watch a movie on". That being said, some people want the whole phone to be smaller. Others want the screen to be bigger. Depending on which camp you fall in, you'll want that. Can apple do anything about this? Not really, except release multiple "sizes" for their iPhone line.

    More Carriers - I know Apple has an agreement with AT&T, but when that contract is up, they should open up the iPhone to other carriers.

    Uploadable MP3 (or AAC) Ringtones - A friend of mine has the "Murlock Sound" from World of Warcraft for his ringtone. Most anoying ring ever, but it's funny as well. Every other phone can do this... if you can get it to connect to your computer, you can upload pictures, music and __ringtones__. And the iPhone can't because... Because...

    More Applications - Where's my SSH client? You KNOW that would be useful. Stuck on a bus? Check the status of your servers. Seeing that there are a lot of "hacked" applications out there should give a good idea of what apple might want to "bundle" into the iPohne with apple's blessing.

    Wireless Headphones - Okay, now we're heading into truly dream-land here, but I'd love a high quality pair of wireless headphones with the next ipod/iphone... It could be done! I know blue-tooth does it, sorta... but no, I'm talking about something that generates the audio at the earpeace, and just streams the music from the ipod... so there is NO sound degration...

    Okay, and with that last wacky one... I'm done for now.

    --Pathway

  178. eBook software by Catbeller · · Score: 1

    I want to read my eBooks on it. 'nuff said.

  179. I can think of a very good thing to change by Whuffo · · Score: 1
    For me, an Iphone is useless because AT&T has very poor coverage in this end of San Jose. So poor that I can't get a usable signal at my home, at the local mall, etc.

    I don't much care for Verizon as a company - and don't get me started on how they cripple their phones. But they do have the undeniable advantage of a good strong signal in all the places where I need it. So I'm a Verizon customer (for now).

    If Apple made a CDMA Iphone - and Verizon could resist their need to disable apps and hardware features to protect their "buy it now" revenue stream - then I'd be carrying an Iphone right now. It's not perfect, but it's leaps and bounds beyond the other cell phones in its class.

    Or AT&T could get busy and plant some cell towers around here so that their service would be usable. As bad as AT&T is as a company, they're nowhere near as greedy and abusive as Verizon. If there was signal, I'd switch to AT&T and get an Iphone.

    But neither of these things is likely to happen at any time in the foreseeable future. Verizon isn't likely to stop crippling the phones they sell and AT&T isn't likely to expand their signal coverage into this part of town. So I'll keep carrying this crippled piece of stuff cell phone and hope for a better day.

  180. Where is the obvious answer? by houghi · · Score: 1

    That ability to call. From anywhere with any provider. Are you so customed to locked phones that you do not even wonder why this is? Do you buy a TV that lets you show only what the vendor wants? Or can you imagine what you would say if a computer only runs the software the vendor wants you to run?

    Seriously, the first thing I wuld expect from an iPhone, Kphone, Gphone, whateverPhone is that I can phone people with it. Unrestricted.

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    1. Re:Where is the obvious answer? by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      What you failed to mention is that you can call anyone. Just because the phone is locked to AT&T doesn't mean you can't make phone calls with it. It's not like AT&T has a select list of phone numbers that only work with iPhones. Come on and quit being inciteful.

    2. Re:Where is the obvious answer? by houghi · · Score: 1

      Yet it is locked to AT&T. I want to make my own selection. See as if buying a PC without the MS tax.

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    3. Re:Where is the obvious answer? by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      That's fine that you don't want AT&T, but you can't characterize the phone as not being able to make phone calls, just because you don't like the carrier. Especially when the phone DOES make phone calls.

  181. What I want in iPhone 2.0 by MrCopilot · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    What do I want in iPhone 2.0?

    A Media Blackout.

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  182. Everything my video ipod can do + am/fm radio by medianomad · · Score: 1

    I want the iphone to do everything my video ipod can do plus an am/pm radio, gsp, ichat and wifi.

    1. Re:Everything my video ipod can do + am/fm radio by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      What do our video iPods do that our iPhones don't? Games?

    2. Re:Everything my video ipod can do + am/fm radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Augh! If they put an AM/FM radio in an iPod, I wouldn't even consider buying it. I got an iPod for one reason: so I would never have to listen to the radio again.

  183. Let's start... by Phroggy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ...with a list of some of the features of my current phone, a Motorola v551. It's not a complete piece of crap, but it's certainly not high end or anything. The interface is terrible; Motorola's UI designers are apparently completely incompetent. Slashdotters complain about EDGE, but this phone doesn't even support EDGE; I get 32kbps down and 16kbps up on GPRS. So right there, there's two things the iPhone would do better.

    But here's some of the things my crappy old phone can do, that the iPhone can't:

    • tethering via BlueTooth
    • syncing via BlueTooth
    • voice dialing
    • MP3 ring tones, alarms, etc.
    • record videos, and send them to others via MMS or e-mail, or transfer them (or photos, or ring tones) to my computer via BlueTooth
    • AIM client
    • Install and play third-party games
    • Swap batteries when I'm away from a power source for awhile


    I shouldn't have to give up these features. Tethering (the ability to connect to the Internet from my laptop through the phone) is the dealbreaker; I use that all the time. I can understand the battery issue, and I should be able to work around it by connecting an external battery pack (I've seen these for other phones; I don't know if one is available for the iPhone yet, but it's not exactly complicated).

    Beyond that? I'm sure 3G is coming. GPS would be nice, so I don't have to enter my current location when using Google Maps, especially after I've made a wrong turn and I don't really know where I am. Copy and paste would be helpful. And I really desperately want an SSH client.
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  184. Barnum's Corollary by meehawl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It was not deliberately crippled. The current chips uses too much power and would make the battery life unacceptable. Google for more info and Jobs' comments on the subject.

    The Reality Distortion Field is in full effect then I see.

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  185. Mogul Is Okay by meehawl · · Score: 1

    battery life under 3G would appear to be a "bit" of an issue...

    My Mogul (CDMA version of HTC Hermes/Tytn) can run a good six hours or so on full web mode (1.5 Mbps/800K up/down) or running the (native) Google Maps. If I use it intermittently, it lasts the whole day, alternating between text, data, and PDA. On certain days, in weak signal areas, I have noticed that the battery will drain much faster (like, within six hours or so), and even faster if I have turned on bluetooth, WiFI, or IR beams. But you know what? From the home screen, or using a button on the side, I can turn on and off any or all of the radio emitters using single pushes or clicks. If I want, I can reduce the device's functions down to basically a PDA and, in that condition, the battery seems to last a couple of days.

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    1. Re:Mogul Is Okay by shmlco · · Score: 1

      "If I use it intermittently, it lasts the whole day, alternating between text, data, and PDA."

      Of course, the iPhone is also supposed to be a phone and a video iPod. So factor that usage in and its impact on battery life as well. I'd much rather have an extra couple of hours of usage in those modes and not have to manage power, or as opposed to getting an email or web page a few seconds faster on those rare occasions when I don't have WiFi access or I'm not near a hotspot.

      But since home, work, friends, and most of my favorite restaurants all do have WiFi, the presence (or not) of 3G is pretty much a non-issue.

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    2. Re:Mogul Is Okay by DECS · · Score: 1

      The TyTN is also a foot thick. I'm sure Apple could give users a strap on battery pack to last longer, but users want a phone the size of a phone, not one that's too big to fit in a pocket.

      Seriously, take your TyTN and shave off a 13.5mm wafer - that's what an iPhone looks like, but in a metal case instead of a cheap flimsy Zune box.

      Forbes Prints Insanely Self Serving Attack on iTunes by MediaNet CEO Alan McGlade
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  186. Why do people like this outdated thing? by ThePengwin · · Score: 1

    Sometimes i think im the only one who says this:

    The iPhone is not even close to a revolutionary device, in fact its years behind current smartphones.

    Recently i bought a HP iPAQ rw6828. and it has a feature list better than an iphone, and is based on technology 2 years old. It has

    WiFi (b)
    Bluetooth
    GSM, GRPS EDGE
    SMS MMS IMAP POP3 Hotmail
    MSN
    Camera + photo software
    Audio and video capabilities
    Voice Activation
    USB mini connection
    SD Card slot

    The only thing i see it dosent have compared to an iPhone is 8GB of memory, but other than that its more feature packed.

    This thing costed me $600 AUD, which is slightly lower than what the iPhone would be in AUD when released.

    Can someone please tell me why there is soo much buzz about an instantly outdated device?

  187. Buttons... by Gaerek · · Score: 1

    'nuff said

  188. Jammer by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    How about a jammer so you can force people to pay attention to their driving?

  189. Voice dialing first by jet_silver · · Score: 1

    The iphone cannot do a lot that my K-Jam can:
    1) Voice dialing. Handsfree is a requirement in California when you're driving.
    2) HP-41C calculator emulation (eV41).
    3) fine-grained phone/SMS blocking (CallFirewall).

    A lot of this is add-on functionality, which is exactly the point. Poor dumb M$ at least left WM5 open enough to add stuff I want.

    The iphone does things I absolutely hate:
    1) requires iTunes, which is the most idiotic app Apple's ever released.
    2) annoys you when you are passing Starbucks on your way to getting some coffee.

    Apple has a winner as far as the fanboys and dullish gadget freaks are concerned, and it's a gorgeous object, but it does too little to please me. I'm hopeful the Google phone will be on an open platform.

  190. Corporate Liability Accounts by jgs · · Score: 1

    I want a bunch of that other stuff (GPS, faster data, let me use it as a modem, third-party apps) but what I want most of all is to be able to use it with a corporate liability account. For some reason, AT&T has seen fit to limit the plans the iPhone can be used with to non-discounted, personal liability plans. Sure, I understand the non-discounted aspect. The personal liability, less so. I suppose it might be that they want the 2-year lock-in and can't get it with corporate accounts, but gee does it seem short sighted. I might be prepared to drop a few hundred bucks on some new phone hardware but no way am I going to give up my company-paid account and eat the monthly charges myself instead. I can't be the only one like that.

    Of course, that wouldn't take iPhone 2.0 to achieve, just AT&T 2.1. One hopes that once they think they've saturated the early and early-ish adopter market, they'll adopt a more accommodating position in order to continue to drive sales. How long did it take, say, the Treo to move from the height of geek jewelry to a discounted commodity phone? Maybe it'll take as long as that, and then I can get one. Come to think of it, the iPod 2.0 hardware the rest of you are writing about may be out by then!

  191. Possibly... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I have not tried to compile it, but anything you can compile in XCode you can get running on the iPhone. I used to use scheme myself, that might be kind of fun...

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  192. Revamped, but really meant Grafitti by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Actually I meant to say Grafitti, and by that the real Grafitti (the second version was called Jot) but I had misplaced the name mentally. Yes, a reworked version of that I would have found as acceptible as a virtual keyboard - I still think it could be a powerful alternative approach that allows you to keep a virtual keyboard in a smaller physical space.

    I have to say though that typing is easier on my hands than writing was, since humans have so little call to actualy use a pen anymore... and there is something to be said for not needing a stylus, I was losing or destroying them at times.

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  193. Yes, extends one year warranty to two (mechanical) by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Apple didn't sell it at launch, but they are now offering iPhone Applecare for $69. It doesn't matter they didn't offer it at launch, because you can buy anytime you are still under the original warranty... which I think is a very fair policy indeed.

    I believe the AT&T exclusion may be specifically because Apple wanted to handle all technical details related to servicing the iPhone (and having used Apple service before, that is indeed desirable).

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  194. Rumor has it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That an SDK may be coming out with Leopard, along with a new Xcode, and updates to Cocoa. So the wait may not be much longer ;)

  195. Some things I haven't heard requested before: by J.+T.+MacLeod · · Score: 1

    - 3G. OK, OK, every one and their grandmother wants it. I'm not so worried about speed as I am international use. Good luck using GSM in Japan, Korea, etc.
    - Multi-language input! Not just English, Spanish, and French like is on most any Nokia phone. I want to be able to type using auto-complete in English, Japanese, Hebrew, Korean, etc. Most any phone is capable of this nowdays. The iPhone is especially so. Licensing costs will vary, but let me pay for an add-on.
    - A note taking application to take good use of that software keyboard.

  196. Data... And lots of It by meehawl · · Score: 1

    the iPhone is also supposed to be a phone and a video iPod

    Unless you have 3G, you're probably not used to thinking of your phone as an always-potentially-on high-speed conduit, so you're probably misunderstanding what I mean when I say "data". I can spend several hours a day streaming video and music from my server over either 3G or WiFi using Orb to to the server-side transcoding (I know other people prefer custom hardware, like SlingBox). So basically, I am "carrying" around a TB of data that I can access anytime. To be honest though, there are very few occasions where I need to turn on WiFi (usually, basements) because 3G is plenty fast enough to stream video. And when I use the phone as a modem hooked to a PC, it's fast enough to stream SD DIVX at full framerates for easy viewing.

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  197. Hey, now! by Valdrax · · Score: 1

    Windows Me.

    No need to use profanity.

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  198. No RSS?! by jmpeax · · Score: 1

    You see this confuses me. I have a Sony Ericsson W850i and, with the right memory card, it can store up to 8GB of music. It also includes Walkman music player software on the phone (which is on par with the iPod firmware, IMO). It has a full HTML browser. It supports 3G and video calling. It has an RSS reader. What is so special about the iPhone?!

  199. OpenMoko by walter_f · · Score: 1

    http://wiki.openmoko.org/

    or a (hypothetical) Pocket Debian or a similar Free/OpenSource software platform.

    Otherwise, the iPhone isn't a Smartphone.

  200. Smart Groups by tdonley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Smart Groups from the MacOS X Address Book should sync with the iPhone. While we're at it, Smart Playlists from iTunes would be nice, as would the Smart Mailboxes from Mail.app.

  201. Oppenness by obarthelemy · · Score: 1

    - I must use iTunes to use the iPhone
        + iTunes is proprietary
        + iTunes chokes on my 250 gigs ripped CD collection (all legit), even the mp3'd subset
            of it I have
        + iTunes doesn't support the open format I ripped them into (flac)

    - I can't quickly transfer tunes/vids to it from any PC via drag and drop

    - I can't install any 3rd party app I want on it (ebook reader, games, reference...)

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  202. Mogul != Tytn by meehawl · · Score: 1

    take your TyTN and shave off a 13.5mm wafer

    The Mogul is a later, thinner version of the HTC Hermes model, the platform on which the earlier, older Tytn was also based. The Mogul is 18mm thick, and that includes a slide-out full qwerty keyboard, a flash-enabled camera, a voice recorder, IrDA, a jogwheel, single-button voice interface access, USB, a memory card slot, and a battery that can be swapped out within 30s. For an extra 4.5mm, I can live with that.

    It should also be noted that the Hermes platform itself is from the middle of last year and positively ancient. For me, the fact that it cost under $120 with rebates, runs basically every ebook SW known, costs $30/month including unlimited data, and can emulate all my old consoles was a no-brainer. Were I to splurge iphone levels of cash, I'd probably get the Nokia N95 or the Toshiba G900 (with an 800x400 display delivering twice the pixel density of the iphone).

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  203. IPHONE 2.0 NEEDS! by spongebill · · Score: 0

    ### first and foremost ###### VOIP SOFTWARE PREFERABLY FOR VONAGE!! 1. Removable Battery or 20-40 battery life 2. ability to play quicktime movies/ sound files in email 3. flash support 4. java support 5. Window Media Video support in safari as well as native player application 6. ability to send a message with BCC recipients 7. Delete all txt or all emails at once 8. Disk use mode like other ipods 9. copy/paste in all applications 10. native ichat with video conferencing (w/ smaller mirror on back for self portraits) 11. AppTapp Installer supported/accepted by Apple 12. 3G data 13. unrecess the headphone port

  204. iPal Handheld Computer by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    iPal - Palm sized Macintosh - $500
        3x5 touch screen runs - Two screens fold together like a book.
        MacOS full enough to run all software
        Slower than other Macs of course - there are some trade offs
        Auto-syncing with desktop or notebook or another iPal for full backup
        Music,
        Videos,
        WiFi connected,
        VOIP/Cell/Radio phone,
        Camera
        Scanner
        GPS
        Real World Rugged
    Slips in the pocket. Size of an iPod.
    Flash memory for long battery life. 4GB, 8GB, 32GB, 64GB, 128GB.
    Induction recharging of battery.
    Solar skin for recharging of battery.
    Wi-Fi for the internet & VOIP.
    Cellular for cellphone if desired.
    Bluetooth for earphones, keyboard, mouse.
    Screen is touch sensitive of course and a tablet.
    Sealed case, real world rugged, no ports, no openings.
    Full MacOSX from a user's perspective but you don't need optical drive and a lot of other things.
    Available in any color as long as it is black.
    The iPal - it does it all.

  205. No AT&T. by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    I won't buy an iPhone so long as I have to go with AT&T as my carrier. I'd rather have my choice of carriers and choice of VoIP carrier when I'm getting a good wifi connection. The vast majority of my calls would come from my home or office where I could call for almost nothing using VoIP and I'd be willing to pay by the minute when not at home or office since I'd use those so rarely. I like Net10 for prepaid cell access because they have so few fees compared to most carriers. Pair them with Vonage or Skype and make them all work with the iPhone and you'll have a winner IMO.

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  206. RSS Support by MattPat · · Score: 1

    For the record, the iPhone does have RSS support in its current iteration, just not 100% native (though pretty close :P). Just enter a feed address in Safari's address bar, and it redirects you to the .Mac RSS Reader for iPhone, which looks and behaves similarly to the Safari RSS built-in client.

  207. AppTap Installer changes *everything* on this.... by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    I took the plunge and bought my iPhone right after they announced the price drop. (Actually saved $50 more by going with a refurbished iPhone 8GB model off Apple's web site).

    So far, I really like the phone, and somewhat dislike AT&T's lack of reliability and coverage. (Last week, for an entire day, it seemed like every phone call I got didn't make my phone ring. I only knew people tried calling when I got the missed call or new voicemail messages later. I started to blame my iPhone for it, until I talked to another friend of mine using a Moto Razr with AT&T who had the same problem.)

    If it wasn't for AppTap installer though, I think I might not be as happy with the phone right now. I almost think this one caught even Apple by surprise. (It amazes me how quickly people are developing really good, un-official apps and distributing them conveniently through this "click and go" installer tool. It even keeps track of any updates you need and lets you uninstall with one tap too.)

    Along with must-have applets like "Summerboard", I've downloaded such things as a VNC client for my iPhone, a decent IRC chat client, an instant-messenger for AOL's network (wish it supported others, but that's probably coming soon), a couple decent free games (Tetris and Blackjack), a Super NES emulator, a really good dictionary and thesaurus, and Navizon (www.navizon.com) - which gives you a pretty decent alternative to hardware GPS capabilities.

    Already, enough good software development has gone on - I don't think Apple can really risk breaking or locking out this stuff now. Several commercial phone app makers are writing unofficial iPhone apps, and they all seem to comment on their web site that "Apple is aware of our project." If this was all still stuff you had to manually jump through hoops to get loaded onto your phone, then Apple would shrug and ignore them. But I'm starting to think maybe this next iPhone firmware update has taken longer than expected to come out BECAUSE they're doing some testing to see if they can add their changes without screwing up most of the AppTap installed apps? It's simply too GOOD a 3rd. party extension to the iPhone!

  208. Lasers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some kind of death-ray, with touch-commands!

  209. wifi =! 3G by RMH101 · · Score: 1

    ..and two of your examples specifically refer to wifi use, not 3G use.

  210. It certainly isn't 1.1.1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not to revive a dying thread but I couldn't resist bring this back up especially after it is clear what update 1.1.1 did to us.

    MORE THAN ANY THING ELSE I WANT AN iPhone 2.0 THAT ALLOWS FOR CUSTOM APPS. I certainly don't want the crap that 1.1.1 gave us when they locked out the ability to load your own programs. Steve J. is suppose to be some sort of marketing genius but this strikes me as some sort of childish attack on the customers that give Apple its life blood.

    This recent update is possibly the worst thing that Apple has done from a management perspective in a very long time.

    Dave