Apple never tried to get rid of USB with Firewire.
They did, they failed, and like so many of their failures the loyalists just try to pretend it never happened.
NO. NO they didn't. They ADDED Firewire in addition to the USB ports already there. The even REPLACED firewire iPods with USB only. Show me one Apple product that tried to get rid of USB in favor of firewire only. You can't, because it never happened. Apple adopted USB much earlier than most Wintel mobos at the time. This is not disputable. You are a moron if you think so.
iPhones don't come in pink, and there's more to life than having the #1 market share. Notice I don't make predictions about Android success, but Apple haters love to make predictions (incorrect ones at that) about Apple.
iPhones do not, at least not yet, but eMacs did in the most garish colors imaginable. They initiated a fad that the Apple loyalists loved to praise as the final nail in the coffin of the "ugly, brown box", only to die a quick, merciful death a few years later. Just as the "haters" predicted, huh, who would've thought.
Uh, no, eMacs came only in white. And if you don't think the rest of the industry has followed suit in getting rid of "ugly brown boxes" you obviously don't get out much.
The one button mouse argument wasn't very good in 1995, let alone at any time during the 2000s. I've had a multiple button mouse ever since OS 7 or so.
Good for you, but I practically grew up with Apple idiots calling more than one button "too complicated for non-geeks to use".
Yep, that was the idea...in 1984. They even had an ad campaign "a computer for the rest of us" with a single finger pushing a single mouse button. It's actually cited as really good advertising for that time. In the context of 1984 personal computing, the one-button mouse was a good idea. People who claim it is still a good idea, or worse yet, people who think macs only have one mouse button, are stupid.
Apple didn't become the most valuable tech company in the world with pink iPhones and one-button mice, regardless of how you might want to think that true.
No, it became so the same way Scientology gained such momentum: a personality cult built around their leader, a massive propaganda campaign to make their members look part of a "distinguished elite" merely for being members, and the insane profits that come from selling new trash to your followers every month.
That says more about you than anything else.
Steve Jobs isn't a divine, flawless being that can make no mistake and every word of his mouth is the absolute truth, and just because it's got an Apple logo doesn't mean it's the golden standard which all competing products must be measured against.
Still, fat chance of you ever admitting *that*, you're way too invested into the company (both emotionally as well as economically, judging from your initial post) to admit any flaw in your reasoning. Psychology is a bitch, isn't it?
I never said such. I merely said people who hate Apple and like to make predictions about them usually end up on the wrong side of history. Lame.
Berklee has produced some of the greatest session drummers on the planet, and the faculty consists of some of the best drummers and guitarists on the planet. UNT is even better than that (Keith Carlock!).
More of a pity is your ability to mold reality to fit your view instead of accepting it for what it is--reality.
Apple never tried to get rid of USB with Firewire. They did, however, get rid of serial ports by being one of the earliest adapters of USB, and took a lot of heat for doing so, only to be right in hindsight.
If Newton is the best flop you can come up with, then you haven't been paying attention.
iPhones don't come in pink, and there's more to life than having the #1 market share. Notice I don't make predictions about Android success, but Apple haters love to make predictions (incorrect ones at that) about Apple.
The one button mouse argument wasn't very good in 1995, let alone at any time during the 2000s. I've had a multiple button mouse ever since OS 7 or so.
Apple didn't become the most valuable tech company in the world with pink iPhones and one-button mice, regardless of how you might want to think that true.
My argument is actually, a) meant in jest, and b) factually pretty accurate, since I'm fluent in Arabic and know what those "squiggles" mean. Besides, Baghdad is spelled Baghdad in English.
No, I make money on Apple technologies. The more your types make bad predictions, the more my salary increases every year.
And my apt examples of previous predictions of Apple doom are relevant to a discussion about how some random guy on slashdot thinks Apple will lock-in their OS. If anything, Apple predictions by the haters are usually the exact opposite of reality, and I expect that to hold true this time as well.
You don't have to tell me that. I'm just perpetuating the myth that Macs are a) expensive, b) elite, c) not used in CS programs. I guess you missed my sarcasm.
People aren't born thinking a certain way. People indeed can be taught how to think "like a computer scientist", which is the whole point of a computer science degree.
Most of the obsessive "i've been coding for 10 years on my own" students bring bad habits and attitudes to class and don't succeed. The clean slate students, if they an think like a CS major, can be easier to train because they have no such bad habits. When I was in the Army, I fired the best at the range, because I was the one guy who had never fired a rifle before, and therefore had to pay attention to learn how to do it correctly, where as all my backwoods buddies were already set in their (incorrect) ways of shooting.
I couldn't care less what my doctor's interests were before he became a doctor. I'm quite skeptical of people in general who can't separate work from life.
Most people don't figure out what they like or what they are good at until later in life. I should be a graphic or web designer, but by the time I laid eyes on desktop publishing software and Photoshop, I was one semester from graduation (1992).
My wife went back to college after getting a Masters and working in the real world for a decade. She's majoring in CS for the job prospects.
Why would you go out of your way to question why somebody else would study a particular field in college, is the more pertinent question.
My wife is a non-traditional CS major (she has a Masters degree already, has real-world experience, children, and in her 40s). She is a CS major and had never typed one character of code before this past semester. She was the best student in the class. Sink or Swim is an efficient way to weed out those who don't have the discipline to come to class, or the capacity to grasp computer logic (I'm in that group).
as almost as absurd as expecting a student with no instrumental musical experience to be ready to join the university orchestra after 15 weeks.
There is no such expectations at the University of Texas from its CS majors. My wife was expected to go to class, learn the material, and then move on to the next class. She'll be ready for the "orchestra" in a couple of years, not after one semester, and nobody expects her to. What they did expect, however, was that the students in the class grasp the concepts of basic computer logic and the structure of coding in Java. Doesn't seem very unrealistic to me.
Berklee School of Music is one of the most renowned institutes on the planet, and many of their applicants come to the school with no music experience. A clean slate and no bad habits are sometimes more preferable than trying to teach somebody with expectations and habits that will slow them down.
Only if by "before that" you mean 1988, (the last time I was a teenager), since only teens use Myspace.
If I were Zuckerberg, I'd send a Christmas card to that Tom guy from Myspace every year for driving every adult with any evaluation skills at all away from Myspace and to Facebook.
We're not comparing the revenue and industrial strength of companies anymore, we're comparing our expectations.
The market has been this way my entire adult life (I'm 41). There are a lot of good stock market themed movies from the 80s that demonstrate this nicely ( I like the one with Christian Bale as the serial killer).
I read TFA and the point I took from it was that OSX still isn't a juicy enough target, given other, more ubiquitous options. If you search my post history, however, you'll see I think that argument is totally bunk, because if I were a hacker, I'd go after the easiest target that has millions of users...it doesn't matter if one platform had 700,000 million users and the other only had 50 million...if the 50 million were easier to hack, I'd hack it. At some point the argument "there aren't enough Macs to be worth it" has to go away. How many MILLIONS of targets do you need? Does everything in life have to be relative to something else (market share), or isn't 50 million enough?
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Err, RAID1?
Apple never tried to get rid of USB with Firewire.
They did, they failed, and like so many of their failures the loyalists just try to pretend it never happened.
NO. NO they didn't. They ADDED Firewire in addition to the USB ports already there. The even REPLACED firewire iPods with USB only. Show me one Apple product that tried to get rid of USB in favor of firewire only. You can't, because it never happened. Apple adopted USB much earlier than most Wintel mobos at the time. This is not disputable. You are a moron if you think so.
iPhones don't come in pink, and there's more to life than having the #1 market share. Notice I don't make predictions about Android success, but Apple haters love to make predictions (incorrect ones at that) about Apple.
iPhones do not, at least not yet, but eMacs did in the most garish colors imaginable. They initiated a fad that the Apple loyalists loved to praise as the final nail in the coffin of the "ugly, brown box", only to die a quick, merciful death a few years later. Just as the "haters" predicted, huh, who would've thought.
Uh, no, eMacs came only in white. And if you don't think the rest of the industry has followed suit in getting rid of "ugly brown boxes" you obviously don't get out much.
The one button mouse argument wasn't very good in 1995, let alone at any time during the 2000s. I've had a multiple button mouse ever since OS 7 or so.
Good for you, but I practically grew up with Apple idiots calling more than one button "too complicated for non-geeks to use".
Yep, that was the idea...in 1984. They even had an ad campaign "a computer for the rest of us" with a single finger pushing a single mouse button. It's actually cited as really good advertising for that time. In the context of 1984 personal computing, the one-button mouse was a good idea. People who claim it is still a good idea, or worse yet, people who think macs only have one mouse button, are stupid.
Apple didn't become the most valuable tech company in the world with pink iPhones and one-button mice, regardless of how you might want to think that true.
No, it became so the same way Scientology gained such momentum: a personality cult built around their leader, a massive propaganda campaign to make their members look part of a "distinguished elite" merely for being members, and the insane profits that come from selling new trash to your followers every month.
That says more about you than anything else.
Steve Jobs isn't a divine, flawless being that can make no mistake and every word of his mouth is the absolute truth, and just because it's got an Apple logo doesn't mean it's the golden standard which all competing products must be measured against.
Still, fat chance of you ever admitting *that*, you're way too invested into the company (both emotionally as well as economically, judging from your initial post) to admit any flaw in your reasoning. Psychology is a bitch, isn't it?
I never said such. I merely said people who hate Apple and like to make predictions about them usually end up on the wrong side of history. Lame.
Berklee has produced some of the greatest session drummers on the planet, and the faculty consists of some of the best drummers and guitarists on the planet. UNT is even better than that (Keith Carlock!).
Nope, wasn't me. The App Store was a complete surprise to me the day I downloaded whatever patch it came with.
More of a pity is your ability to mold reality to fit your view instead of accepting it for what it is--reality.
Apple never tried to get rid of USB with Firewire. They did, however, get rid of serial ports by being one of the earliest adapters of USB, and took a lot of heat for doing so, only to be right in hindsight.
If Newton is the best flop you can come up with, then you haven't been paying attention.
iPhones don't come in pink, and there's more to life than having the #1 market share. Notice I don't make predictions about Android success, but Apple haters love to make predictions (incorrect ones at that) about Apple.
The one button mouse argument wasn't very good in 1995, let alone at any time during the 2000s. I've had a multiple button mouse ever since OS 7 or so.
Apple didn't become the most valuable tech company in the world with pink iPhones and one-button mice, regardless of how you might want to think that true.
My argument is actually, a) meant in jest, and b) factually pretty accurate, since I'm fluent in Arabic and know what those "squiggles" mean. Besides, Baghdad is spelled Baghdad in English.
No, I make money on Apple technologies. The more your types make bad predictions, the more my salary increases every year.
And my apt examples of previous predictions of Apple doom are relevant to a discussion about how some random guy on slashdot thinks Apple will lock-in their OS. If anything, Apple predictions by the haters are usually the exact opposite of reality, and I expect that to hold true this time as well.
You don't have to tell me that. I'm just perpetuating the myth that Macs are a) expensive, b) elite, c) not used in CS programs. I guess you missed my sarcasm.
I was thinking more Biffy Clyro from Scotland.
People aren't born thinking a certain way. People indeed can be taught how to think "like a computer scientist", which is the whole point of a computer science degree.
Most of the obsessive "i've been coding for 10 years on my own" students bring bad habits and attitudes to class and don't succeed. The clean slate students, if they an think like a CS major, can be easier to train because they have no such bad habits. When I was in the Army, I fired the best at the range, because I was the one guy who had never fired a rifle before, and therefore had to pay attention to learn how to do it correctly, where as all my backwoods buddies were already set in their (incorrect) ways of shooting.
I couldn't care less what my doctor's interests were before he became a doctor. I'm quite skeptical of people in general who can't separate work from life.
Most people don't figure out what they like or what they are good at until later in life. I should be a graphic or web designer, but by the time I laid eyes on desktop publishing software and Photoshop, I was one semester from graduation (1992).
My wife went back to college after getting a Masters and working in the real world for a decade. She's majoring in CS for the job prospects.
Why would you go out of your way to question why somebody else would study a particular field in college, is the more pertinent question.
I guess I should have told you a ride a Vespa and like obscure bands too, since you didn't get it that it was a joke.
IAAAL, btw (I am an Arabic Linguist).
Apple purchased NeXT in 1996, not the other way around.
My wife is a non-traditional CS major (she has a Masters degree already, has real-world experience, children, and in her 40s). She is a CS major and had never typed one character of code before this past semester. She was the best student in the class. Sink or Swim is an efficient way to weed out those who don't have the discipline to come to class, or the capacity to grasp computer logic (I'm in that group).
as almost as absurd as expecting a student with no instrumental musical experience to be ready to join the university orchestra after 15 weeks.
There is no such expectations at the University of Texas from its CS majors. My wife was expected to go to class, learn the material, and then move on to the next class. She'll be ready for the "orchestra" in a couple of years, not after one semester, and nobody expects her to. What they did expect, however, was that the students in the class grasp the concepts of basic computer logic and the structure of coding in Java. Doesn't seem very unrealistic to me.
Berklee School of Music is one of the most renowned institutes on the planet, and many of their applicants come to the school with no music experience. A clean slate and no bad habits are sometimes more preferable than trying to teach somebody with expectations and habits that will slow them down.
Only if by "before that" you mean 1988, (the last time I was a teenager), since only teens use Myspace.
If I were Zuckerberg, I'd send a Christmas card to that Tom guy from Myspace every year for driving every adult with any evaluation skills at all away from Myspace and to Facebook.
We're not comparing the revenue and industrial strength of companies anymore, we're comparing our expectations.
The market has been this way my entire adult life (I'm 41). There are a lot of good stock market themed movies from the 80s that demonstrate this nicely ( I like the one with Christian Bale as the serial killer).
it is founded on fraud, deception, and innuendo
Which is why the best stuff is rarely the most popular. Applies equally throughout life (music, for example).
3) watch out for too-cute writing that tries too hard to be unpredictable or deliberately controversial.
Because I'm a Mac user, and therefore more educated, I have to tell you it's spelled "Baghdad".
You fed the troll! Never feed the troll! But yeah, there indeed is "absolutely no reason to own an apple" for sure. Dammit, just feed the troll...
Considering how hardcore anti-Apple haters are, I think it says a lot about OSX security that none of those dorks have ever managed to do any harm.
I read TFA and the point I took from it was that OSX still isn't a juicy enough target, given other, more ubiquitous options. If you search my post history, however, you'll see I think that argument is totally bunk, because if I were a hacker, I'd go after the easiest target that has millions of users...it doesn't matter if one platform had 700,000 million users and the other only had 50 million...if the 50 million were easier to hack, I'd hack it. At some point the argument "there aren't enough Macs to be worth it" has to go away. How many MILLIONS of targets do you need? Does everything in life have to be relative to something else (market share), or isn't 50 million enough?
Unpossible. Haven't you read the comments? Only people who are STUPID and have DEEP POCKETS use Macs. Neither of these describes college students.