I mean I guess if you feel like paying more than the rest of the first world for health outcomes that are worse then I guess the system works great for you... you just end up paying a ton for insurance.... I'm not really sure that is a great outcome for the "healthy"
I'm not familiar with the funding source of this bill so its hard for me to comment on it, but what do you pay for insurance now? Or what does your employer pay for it? I'm guessing when you add that up the cost wouldn't look like such a bad deal (assuming your employer gives you a raise to compensate for the massive savings they receive).
And the thing is, maybe this was improperly funded, maybe the funding model did hit the upper middle class harder than it should instead of being based on payroll taxes and employers and then spreading the rest around more progressively. I don't know, but the thing is, there are many ways to fund such a program and the larger the base and the more power the program is given the lower costs can get... for better health outcomes than we have now. I know this because we spend more on healtcare than any other nation and we have worse health outcomes than much of the first world.
yeah, and when they get sick or injured and end up getting treated in an emergency room and not being able to pay, that cost is passed on to me, who does have insurance.
Yeah, I think its pretty much bullshit that countries use us as the world police... but then we kind of set our asses up to be that ever since we started jumping into proxy wars all over the fucking globe.
I would like to see us stop but hey, Trump was also more than willing to dump a shit ton of missiles into Syria so apparently he doesn't really have as much of a problem with us being in that role as he would like to claim. If you want countries to stop expecting you to fight wars for them the first thing you should do is stop blowing shit up on their behalf.
and the one I replied to had nothing to do with the comment above that (also mine).
The fact is that it doesn't matter how much money is spent on social security, it doesn't matter what the percentage is, if we cut our military spending to a level that was in line with the spending done by any other major country (hell, lets make it as much as the next 2 countries combined) we would save 300 billion a year. For that money we could have the kinds of services that other modern countries enjoy. Universal healthcare, free state universities... actual investment in infrastructure and transportation.
And every time I bring something like this up someone trots out this old shit about how much we spend on entitlements. Thats what we SHOULD be spending tax money on. Tax money should be used to provide services that people need in a society and what we really don't need is a larger military and more wars.
in what way is removing evidence of police brutality an acceptable policy for a platform? Their excuse is almost worse than the original accusation (that they are serving corporate interests).
Yeah its awful the way we don't let sick and retired people eat dog food and die.... see thats part of the actual helping that taxes do, but we waste a much higher amount of our tax dollars on military spending than other developed countries, for what we pay in taxes we could have much better roads, public transit, education benefits than we do now.
Instead we have a bunch of wars that do nothing for our citizens which we end up paying for for decades in terms of veterans support and we have crumbling infrastructure and schools that are struggling to keep up with those in other first world countries. Personally I think we could do to spend our tax dollars in a much better ways before we even get into how we might increase the tax revenue of the government to provide for things like universal healthcare.
You are right, but thats not really the way most americans think of their taxes. Raising taxes is a hard line for a ton of americans and it doesn't matter what we get in return for it, so we will never have universal healthcare if the idea of raising taxes is so vilified. Even if the tax increase was far less than what we pay now for insurance (which it likely would)
It might help if we actually saw more benefit from our taxes. Improved services and infrastructure, universal healthcare, improvements to education... but instead most of the money I pay in taxes goes to buying more military hardware and endless wars.
But probably not, people are shockingly blind to the benefits of living in a society, believing instead that their rugged individualism would serve them better.
Thats not what he said, what he said is that the people who don't share your demographics are getting fucked over... not that you are personally doing it, but if you ignore that others are getting fucked over you are complicit in that... even if republicans have trouble understanding what that word means.
Uber may be a crappy company but the concept is sound. Having and easy, cheep, reliable way to call a ride in the city makes it a lot less likely that someone is going to drive to someplace they might want to drink (or to someplace where parking is difficult). I visited Montreal where uber operates illegally (last i checked) and they had a legal, app summoned, taxi service. Far better than any taxi I had taken in the city before, very reasonably priced and very convenient. It might have been more expensive than uber but it served the purpose well.
Old school taxis suck... ride share services seem like they might be kind of a stopgap but ultimately many cities need something like uber as a part of their transit solution. In the meantime, I try my best to only use Lyft.
seems pretty reasonable to me... I mean ideally there should never be a death march, but no process is perfect and no estimate is exact so it is almost inevitable, even in the best run places, but a hard limit on how long it lasts and good time based compensation after to let your employees recover before tossing them at the next hard project... it goes a long way.
I'm the same age and it took me very little time to get a new job when my last place laid a bunch of folks off. Needless to say I take what vacation I can every year.
I hear this crap all the time about unemployed meaning unemployable but I have come back form being unemployed plenty of times, including a very long stint back after 9/11 fucked the economy for a while.
Maybe these people just don't have skills that are in sufficient demand, maybe they didn't keep their skills fresh... but acting like this is normal ignores the huge number of people who do manage to get hired off of the unemployment rolls
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Yes, the experiences of everyone in the country with an illness is exactly like your experience.
I mean I guess if you feel like paying more than the rest of the first world for health outcomes that are worse then I guess the system works great for you... you just end up paying a ton for insurance.... I'm not really sure that is a great outcome for the "healthy"
People who follow your rules do well
unless they get sick.
I'm not familiar with the funding source of this bill so its hard for me to comment on it, but what do you pay for insurance now? Or what does your employer pay for it? I'm guessing when you add that up the cost wouldn't look like such a bad deal (assuming your employer gives you a raise to compensate for the massive savings they receive).
And the thing is, maybe this was improperly funded, maybe the funding model did hit the upper middle class harder than it should instead of being based on payroll taxes and employers and then spreading the rest around more progressively. I don't know, but the thing is, there are many ways to fund such a program and the larger the base and the more power the program is given the lower costs can get... for better health outcomes than we have now. I know this because we spend more on healtcare than any other nation and we have worse health outcomes than much of the first world.
yeah, and when they get sick or injured and end up getting treated in an emergency room and not being able to pay, that cost is passed on to me, who does have insurance.
Sounds like a pretty shitty deal for me.
Yeah, I think its pretty much bullshit that countries use us as the world police... but then we kind of set our asses up to be that ever since we started jumping into proxy wars all over the fucking globe.
I would like to see us stop but hey, Trump was also more than willing to dump a shit ton of missiles into Syria so apparently he doesn't really have as much of a problem with us being in that role as he would like to claim. If you want countries to stop expecting you to fight wars for them the first thing you should do is stop blowing shit up on their behalf.
and the one I replied to had nothing to do with the comment above that (also mine).
The fact is that it doesn't matter how much money is spent on social security, it doesn't matter what the percentage is, if we cut our military spending to a level that was in line with the spending done by any other major country (hell, lets make it as much as the next 2 countries combined) we would save 300 billion a year. For that money we could have the kinds of services that other modern countries enjoy. Universal healthcare, free state universities... actual investment in infrastructure and transportation.
And every time I bring something like this up someone trots out this old shit about how much we spend on entitlements. Thats what we SHOULD be spending tax money on. Tax money should be used to provide services that people need in a society and what we really don't need is a larger military and more wars.
Seriously, even Hitler never had someone beaten and forcibly removed from an area.... well, not his own people.
I expect, despite the certain unpleasantness of the beating, that he is going to come out way ahead on this by the time the lawsuits are settled.
in what way is removing evidence of police brutality an acceptable policy for a platform? Their excuse is almost worse than the original accusation (that they are serving corporate interests).
Yeah its awful the way we don't let sick and retired people eat dog food and die.... see thats part of the actual helping that taxes do, but we waste a much higher amount of our tax dollars on military spending than other developed countries, for what we pay in taxes we could have much better roads, public transit, education benefits than we do now.
Instead we have a bunch of wars that do nothing for our citizens which we end up paying for for decades in terms of veterans support and we have crumbling infrastructure and schools that are struggling to keep up with those in other first world countries. Personally I think we could do to spend our tax dollars in a much better ways before we even get into how we might increase the tax revenue of the government to provide for things like universal healthcare.
You are right, but thats not really the way most americans think of their taxes. Raising taxes is a hard line for a ton of americans and it doesn't matter what we get in return for it, so we will never have universal healthcare if the idea of raising taxes is so vilified. Even if the tax increase was far less than what we pay now for insurance (which it likely would)
It might help if we actually saw more benefit from our taxes. Improved services and infrastructure, universal healthcare, improvements to education... but instead most of the money I pay in taxes goes to buying more military hardware and endless wars.
But probably not, people are shockingly blind to the benefits of living in a society, believing instead that their rugged individualism would serve them better.
If you are ignorant in this day and age, your ignorance is willful
All that is required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing.
Yeah because tesla's only competition in the car market is from US Companies.
Of course trump is currently running his campaign for re-election so I guess we are in the throws of an election even now.
Thats not what he said, what he said is that the people who don't share your demographics are getting fucked over... not that you are personally doing it, but if you ignore that others are getting fucked over you are complicit in that... even if republicans have trouble understanding what that word means.
I work for a very large organization here and I had no problem negotiating with them and getting what I wanted pay wise
It at least gives them the chance to have done their homework
Uber may be a crappy company but the concept is sound. Having and easy, cheep, reliable way to call a ride in the city makes it a lot less likely that someone is going to drive to someplace they might want to drink (or to someplace where parking is difficult). I visited Montreal where uber operates illegally (last i checked) and they had a legal, app summoned, taxi service. Far better than any taxi I had taken in the city before, very reasonably priced and very convenient. It might have been more expensive than uber but it served the purpose well.
Old school taxis suck... ride share services seem like they might be kind of a stopgap but ultimately many cities need something like uber as a part of their transit solution. In the meantime, I try my best to only use Lyft.
The crazy thing is, they are still way cheaper than a taxi despite all the BS...
We just can't have nice things...
seems pretty reasonable to me... I mean ideally there should never be a death march, but no process is perfect and no estimate is exact so it is almost inevitable, even in the best run places, but a hard limit on how long it lasts and good time based compensation after to let your employees recover before tossing them at the next hard project... it goes a long way.
I'm the same age and it took me very little time to get a new job when my last place laid a bunch of folks off. Needless to say I take what vacation I can every year.
I hear this crap all the time about unemployed meaning unemployable but I have come back form being unemployed plenty of times, including a very long stint back after 9/11 fucked the economy for a while.
Maybe these people just don't have skills that are in sufficient demand, maybe they didn't keep their skills fresh... but acting like this is normal ignores the huge number of people who do manage to get hired off of the unemployment rolls