I am not "demanding" that the universe has to take note of my existence. I am sorry that your life is so empty that you are satisfied with "meaning" that will not outlive you by more than a few years.
I'm sorry, but I cannot accept that anyone who believes that the universe is all there is is able to come up with any real meaning. By definition, if you believe that the universe is all there is, you believe that it has no meaning.
Whereas your allegation that the Bible is just made up stories relies on the fact that our incomplete knowledge of the period based on alternate sources does not support the account given in the Bible. When creationists use similar arguments against evolution it is, rightly, derided as a "God of the gaps" argument.
You put forth the idea that you personally had no idea about ethics, but needed to be given it to you by some kind of higher authority.
I'm sorry, but I do not see where I said that in this thread. I said that I do not understand how someone lives believing that nothing has any lasting value.
I am sorry, where do you get the idea that I get anything from a priest?br>
I would think that people like you, who believe that everything that is ends when they die and they will never be held accountable for their actions.
In the 1800s, there was not a shred of archaeological evidence that the Assyrians had ever existed. Therefore, people like you believed that the Biblical accounts of the Assyrians were pure propaganda. It turns out that the archaeologists were wrong and that we currently know that the Biblical accounts of the Assyrians not only talk about a real people but are a fairly accurate account of those people.
When did I say that american football was descended from association football? I said that american football was descended from the same game that association football was descended from.
No, I do not have a problem with the concept that "each individual chooses the morality he will follow." I understand that many people are unwilling to attempt to live up to truly moral standards and therefore choose to define the standards they are willing to live up to as "moral".
Yes, there is something puzzling about that to me, when I thought about the universe the way you do, I could think of no reason to work as hard as living requires.
By all rights, Egypt should have been in an enormous crisis that would at the very least critically cripple the country for generations. It would give anybody a terrific opportunity to invade and conquer Egypt. Yet again, it didn't happen.
Except that Egypt was invaded and conquered by the Hyksos at a time that could potentially be related to the Israelite habitation in Egypt.
There are two mistakes that people make. Mistake number one is to believe that it is possible to prove something using anything other than linear logic. The opposite mistake is to believe that since linear logic is the only way to prove something, it is the only way to know something. It is possible for you to know something that you cannot prove to me to be true. The fact that you cannot prove it to me, does not mean that it is not true. It does not even mean that you do not have sufficient evidence to consider it known.
Personally, I do not understand how someone who is an atheist lives believing that nothing has any meaning and will inevitably end in the heat death of the universe.
Because it is descended from the same game as association football(originally called soccer by the British--the people who invented the game--it only reverted to being called football when other countries started playing it) is. The roots of american football are the rules variations that the 19th century founders of association football chose to reject.
The worst are the people who put them around their yard to "keep the dog in". The problem is that the untrained dog sees something outside of the yard that excites it, it runs out to investigate (forgetting in its excitement that it will get shocked when it crosses the line). Now it is outside the fence and wants to come home, but it is not excited anymore. It remembers that when it crosses the line of the yard it will get shocked. It roams the neighborhood until its owner comes and gets it and brings it home (hopefully turning off the "fence" before doing so).
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I am sorry that your life is so empty that such a view of things is satisfying to you.
I am not "demanding" that the universe has to take note of my existence. I am sorry that your life is so empty that you are satisfied with "meaning" that will not outlive you by more than a few years.
Life that ends in death in a universe that will end in heat death is a tedious slog.
My 'immortality' will come from the positive (and unfortunately, sometimes negative) changes I bring to others,
And when the universe ends in heat death, what will that mean?
If the universe is all there is, and it will end in heat death, how does it have any meaning?
I'm sorry, but I cannot accept that anyone who believes that the universe is all there is is able to come up with any real meaning. By definition, if you believe that the universe is all there is, you believe that it has no meaning.
I do not know any atheists who have any lasting meaning in their lives.
I am pretty sure that Yahoo search uses Bing.
Whereas your allegation that the Bible is just made up stories relies on the fact that our incomplete knowledge of the period based on alternate sources does not support the account given in the Bible. When creationists use similar arguments against evolution it is, rightly, derided as a "God of the gaps" argument.
You put forth the idea that you personally had no idea about ethics, but needed to be given it to you by some kind of higher authority.
I'm sorry, but I do not see where I said that in this thread. I said that I do not understand how someone lives believing that nothing has any lasting value.
I am sorry, where do you get the idea that I get anything from a priest?br> I would think that people like you, who believe that everything that is ends when they die and they will never be held accountable for their actions.
In the 1800s, there was not a shred of archaeological evidence that the Assyrians had ever existed. Therefore, people like you believed that the Biblical accounts of the Assyrians were pure propaganda. It turns out that the archaeologists were wrong and that we currently know that the Biblical accounts of the Assyrians not only talk about a real people but are a fairly accurate account of those people.
Well, I feel pity for people like you who believe that everything they will accomplish in life is meaningless and of no lasting value.
When did I say that american football was descended from association football? I said that american football was descended from the same game that association football was descended from.
And when you die, you believe that it will all cease. In the long run, what difference does it make?
No, I do not have a problem with the concept that "each individual chooses the morality he will follow." I understand that many people are unwilling to attempt to live up to truly moral standards and therefore choose to define the standards they are willing to live up to as "moral".
Yes, there is something puzzling about that to me, when I thought about the universe the way you do, I could think of no reason to work as hard as living requires.
Pursuing your own happiness is not meaning.
Maybe because atheists find meaning in their own. lives and live fully knowing this is all there is and it's best to make use of what we're given.
What meaning is that? and who gave it to you?
Rugby is descended from the same game as association football.
By all rights, Egypt should have been in an enormous crisis that would at the very least critically cripple the country for generations. It would give anybody a terrific opportunity to invade and conquer Egypt. Yet again, it didn't happen.
Except that Egypt was invaded and conquered by the Hyksos at a time that could potentially be related to the Israelite habitation in Egypt.
There are two mistakes that people make. Mistake number one is to believe that it is possible to prove something using anything other than linear logic. The opposite mistake is to believe that since linear logic is the only way to prove something, it is the only way to know something. It is possible for you to know something that you cannot prove to me to be true. The fact that you cannot prove it to me, does not mean that it is not true. It does not even mean that you do not have sufficient evidence to consider it known.
Personally, I do not understand how someone who is an atheist lives believing that nothing has any meaning and will inevitably end in the heat death of the universe.
Because it is descended from the same game as association football(originally called soccer by the British--the people who invented the game--it only reverted to being called football when other countries started playing it) is. The roots of american football are the rules variations that the 19th century founders of association football chose to reject.
What truly makes it silly, is that the coaches do have access to those other games. It is only the fans who don't have access.
The worst are the people who put them around their yard to "keep the dog in". The problem is that the untrained dog sees something outside of the yard that excites it, it runs out to investigate (forgetting in its excitement that it will get shocked when it crosses the line). Now it is outside the fence and wants to come home, but it is not excited anymore. It remembers that when it crosses the line of the yard it will get shocked. It roams the neighborhood until its owner comes and gets it and brings it home (hopefully turning off the "fence" before doing so).