I think that Josh Wolf was concerned that people in the tape (who he knows) would be implicated simply because they were present, in the area, and anarchists--even the ones who didn't commit violent anarchy at the time. (He's an anarchist himself, so civil disobedience likely came easier to him than it would to many of us.)
I'll guess that being forced to show his source material may be abridging the freedom of the press.
The press has been known to go unsavory places and talk to unsavory people to get news. If the press is required to tell the gov. about the sources that the gov. wants to arrest, those sources will stop talking to the press. If the gov. persecution of those sources is wrong, then losing their voices will hinder the general good.
Music publishers!=composers&lyricists
If they were, Michael Jackson would not own Northernsongs. Lennon&McCartney were songwriters: they were composers & lyricists. Sony/ATV/Northernsongs is a music publisher: it is not a composer or lyricist.
Okay.
The CPCC has the right to collect money on items for which it controls distribution.
If this law that would mandate a levy on SD memory cards gets passed, the CPCC will gain control of the distribution of memory cards. This will happen because the CPCC will be collecting that levy on the cards.
The control of distribution of memory cards that the levy would give the CPCC would give the CPCC the right to collect the levy.
Catch-22.
Yes. You have the right to call yourself all these things. Just don't be surprised if no one believes you.
On the other hand, the gov. doesn't seem to think that people who aren't cops have the right to say they are cops...
"And that's exactly why COMMERCIAL speech is separated from NORMAL speech; commercial speech is telling people about a product, which could have a major impact on their life."
So, speech should be free only if it's about things that can't possibly have a major impact on someone's life?
I am for truth-in-advertising laws. I'm not crazy about snake oil either. But the laws shouldn't have to be legally enforced before the ads come out, and there should be a fair hearing when those laws are invoked. There's always a slim chance that the "snake oil" actually works--think of aspirin. (I don't encourage people to use snake oil on that basis, but...)
What this law would do in the UK would be to prevent things like a company putting out flyers in one part of the store to extol the benefits of a product which has not been legally proven to have benefits and thus cannot have those benefits written on the product's label. Avon ladies will not be allowed to distribute homemade flyers on the insect-repelling benefits of original Skin-So-Soft. Health food stores won't have racks of pamphlets on the benefits of herbs that are sold elsewhere in the store.
I object to "commercial speech should not be free because it can impact lives" because the same argument applies to some political speech. Freedom of speech was formalized in America for the benefit of life-changing political speech, so...
The 14th Amendment uses both "citizens" and "persons" in its language.
It says that anyone born to a US citizen or under US jurisdiction is a US citizen. Since corporations aren't born, just incorporated, this clause does not apply to them.
But it also says that the states cannot deny life, liberty, or property to any person, nor can they deprive any person of fair legal protection. The Supreme Court made sure this included the First Amendment, among other things.
People on/. who are against censorship like to argue that the Bill of Rights applies, or should apply, to all persons, not just US citizens. Well, an 1880s Supreme Court determined that rights that are given to all persons should be given to corporations, since corporations are (legal) persons. That corporations have innate powers humans don't never came into play.
Maybe Congress should propose an affirmative action bill for humans...
Corporations don't have marriage per se. But they do have mergers and partnerships, which bear many of the same functions for corps. that marriage does for us. Corporations actually have more rights than humans that way--polygamy for humans is illegal, but corps. can merge as much as they like up to the limits of antitrust law.
No, corps. cannot become citizens. (You aren't supposed to vote unless you are a citizen.) That's one of the few places where the playing field is slanted towards humans. Of course, it's tricky for a human who wasn't born a citizen of the USA to become one--it takes 14 years of legal residence to naturalize, and most visas don't last that long.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer...
I believe that the Canadian government does subsidize the creation of Canadian music, on the theory that American culture would swamp Canadian culture (more) thoroughly without the subsidy.
Apparently, the CPCC distributes these royalties in proportion to how much TV and radio play each member belonging to the org. is getting.
Obviously, someone needs to set up a Canadian "First Nations" radio station.
It appears from their site that the CPCC represents almost everybody: music publishers and songwriters everywhere, Canadian artists, and Canadian record labels.
If I read this correctly, the people wanting these taxes also want to tax memory cards of a sort that work in MP3 players but are more often used in digital cameras. What should the digital photographers do, if this law is passed, when their current stock of memory cards runs out?
And if hard drives get taxed, what will you do when your current HD dies?
Ah. That's good to know. It explains a lot.
You recall that America had a Civil War. After that, it determined that black people were persons. America then passed the 14th Amendment, which says that the states must ensure that all persons in their jurisdiction had equal access to rights & protections. This was meant to prevent states from treating blacks as second-class people; as we all know, that didn't work quite as well as it should have.
In the meantime, a creative Supreme Court decided that the 14th Amendment applied to incorporated legal persons. After all, it said states had to treat all persons fairly, right?
For this reason, America cannot keep as tight a leash on its corps. as the EU keeps on its. Because it once had more than one type of legal human person, America is not supposed to make different types of laws for different types of legal persons.
Right. By that definition of free speech, any work of fiction could be banned. The government could ban Animal Farm, 1984, V for Vendetta, and any other dystopic works that haven't actually happened--and deprive us of many of our cautionary tales.
No good. Everyone who has seen The Future Is Wild knows that a spink is a type of burrowing quail that will evolve in the Kansas desert sometime after humanity leaves the planet (one way or another).
No, the iTunes Store's competitors don't all use WMAs.
For online music, the nearest competitor to the iTunes Store in America is eMusic. I don't believe that they use WMAs, and they certainly don't use DRM.
The nearest competitor in Britain was, until recently, Allofmp3. They sold many formats, but I don't think they sold WMAs. They certainly didn't use DRM!
Now, the nearest competitor with 100% approved RIAA music likely does sell WMAs with DRM. But not the absolute nearest competitor, and not every competitor.
You do realize what these conjectures say?
The first conjecture says this: for any axiom system, a machine X can be built that takes a statement in that system and a string; for any proven statement P, a string $p can be constructed such that the pair, when entered into machine X, returns "true"; and that any false statement R will return "false" no matter what string is entered. Problem with this: if your statement is "The Godel statement is not provable," is there a string $g that will return "true"?
The second conjecture says that a black box can be built so that an untrusted user of the box can tell what the outputs should be from the inputs--but nothing else. Turing proved that there could be no such machines.
Don't worry. At the rate we're burning fossil fuel, we should be able to prevent any ice ages from arriving before the Apocalypse. When we run out of oil, America still has lots and lots of coal...
Of course, if global warming turns out to have a "Day After Tomorrow" phase, then your concerns are warranted. Maybe someone can start another Doomsday Seed Bank in Minnesota, north of Duluth. Or in Buffalo, NY.
No, just make a Doomsday Twinkie Vault. Make sure it's more accessible than the seed vault, so it gets found first.
Twinkies should store for a long time. Hey, even if radiation gets in, the Twinkies might still be edible!
I think the seeds themselves are a sufficient MacGuffin. They are what our characters and their rivals are going after. And in the film of this, we would roll the end credits right after they found the seed vaults, or else after they (unintentionally?) destroyed the entrance in an explosive avalanche.
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I think that Josh Wolf was concerned that people in the tape (who he knows) would be implicated simply because they were present, in the area, and anarchists--even the ones who didn't commit violent anarchy at the time. (He's an anarchist himself, so civil disobedience likely came easier to him than it would to many of us.)
I'll guess that being forced to show his source material may be abridging the freedom of the press.
The press has been known to go unsavory places and talk to unsavory people to get news. If the press is required to tell the gov. about the sources that the gov. wants to arrest, those sources will stop talking to the press. If the gov. persecution of those sources is wrong, then losing their voices will hinder the general good.
Actually, a lot of the comments to the viral marketing post seem to say, in effect, "oh well, people need to get more cynical anyway."
Music publishers!=composers&lyricists
If they were, Michael Jackson would not own Northernsongs. Lennon&McCartney were songwriters: they were composers & lyricists. Sony/ATV/Northernsongs is a music publisher: it is not a composer or lyricist.
Okay.
The CPCC has the right to collect money on items for which it controls distribution.
If this law that would mandate a levy on SD memory cards gets passed, the CPCC will gain control of the distribution of memory cards. This will happen because the CPCC will be collecting that levy on the cards.
The control of distribution of memory cards that the levy would give the CPCC would give the CPCC the right to collect the levy.
Catch-22.
Yes. You have the right to call yourself all these things. Just don't be surprised if no one believes you.
On the other hand, the gov. doesn't seem to think that people who aren't cops have the right to say they are cops...
"And that's exactly why COMMERCIAL speech is separated from NORMAL speech; commercial speech is telling people about a product, which could have a major impact on their life."
So, speech should be free only if it's about things that can't possibly have a major impact on someone's life?
I am for truth-in-advertising laws. I'm not crazy about snake oil either. But the laws shouldn't have to be legally enforced before the ads come out, and there should be a fair hearing when those laws are invoked. There's always a slim chance that the "snake oil" actually works--think of aspirin. (I don't encourage people to use snake oil on that basis, but...)
What this law would do in the UK would be to prevent things like a company putting out flyers in one part of the store to extol the benefits of a product which has not been legally proven to have benefits and thus cannot have those benefits written on the product's label. Avon ladies will not be allowed to distribute homemade flyers on the insect-repelling benefits of original Skin-So-Soft. Health food stores won't have racks of pamphlets on the benefits of herbs that are sold elsewhere in the store.
I object to "commercial speech should not be free because it can impact lives" because the same argument applies to some political speech. Freedom of speech was formalized in America for the benefit of life-changing political speech, so...
The 14th Amendment uses both "citizens" and "persons" in its language. /. who are against censorship like to argue that the Bill of Rights applies, or should apply, to all persons, not just US citizens. Well, an 1880s Supreme Court determined that rights that are given to all persons should be given to corporations, since corporations are (legal) persons. That corporations have innate powers humans don't never came into play.
It says that anyone born to a US citizen or under US jurisdiction is a US citizen. Since corporations aren't born, just incorporated, this clause does not apply to them.
But it also says that the states cannot deny life, liberty, or property to any person, nor can they deprive any person of fair legal protection. The Supreme Court made sure this included the First Amendment, among other things.
People on
Maybe Congress should propose an affirmative action bill for humans...
Corporations don't have marriage per se. But they do have mergers and partnerships, which bear many of the same functions for corps. that marriage does for us. Corporations actually have more rights than humans that way--polygamy for humans is illegal, but corps. can merge as much as they like up to the limits of antitrust law.
No, corps. cannot become citizens. (You aren't supposed to vote unless you are a citizen.) That's one of the few places where the playing field is slanted towards humans. Of course, it's tricky for a human who wasn't born a citizen of the USA to become one--it takes 14 years of legal residence to naturalize, and most visas don't last that long.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer...
I believe that the Canadian government does subsidize the creation of Canadian music, on the theory that American culture would swamp Canadian culture (more) thoroughly without the subsidy.
Apparently, the CPCC distributes these royalties in proportion to how much TV and radio play each member belonging to the org. is getting.
Obviously, someone needs to set up a Canadian "First Nations" radio station.
It appears from their site that the CPCC represents almost everybody: music publishers and songwriters everywhere, Canadian artists, and Canadian record labels.
If I read this correctly, the people wanting these taxes also want to tax memory cards of a sort that work in MP3 players but are more often used in digital cameras. What should the digital photographers do, if this law is passed, when their current stock of memory cards runs out?
And if hard drives get taxed, what will you do when your current HD dies?
No, corporations cannot vote, because they are not citizens. We humans may all be thankful for that.
Ah. That's good to know. It explains a lot.
You recall that America had a Civil War. After that, it determined that black people were persons. America then passed the 14th Amendment, which says that the states must ensure that all persons in their jurisdiction had equal access to rights & protections. This was meant to prevent states from treating blacks as second-class people; as we all know, that didn't work quite as well as it should have.
In the meantime, a creative Supreme Court decided that the 14th Amendment applied to incorporated legal persons. After all, it said states had to treat all persons fairly, right?
For this reason, America cannot keep as tight a leash on its corps. as the EU keeps on its. Because it once had more than one type of legal human person, America is not supposed to make different types of laws for different types of legal persons.
Right. By that definition of free speech, any work of fiction could be banned. The government could ban Animal Farm, 1984, V for Vendetta, and any other dystopic works that haven't actually happened--and deprive us of many of our cautionary tales.
No good. Everyone who has seen The Future Is Wild knows that a spink is a type of burrowing quail that will evolve in the Kansas desert sometime after humanity leaves the planet (one way or another).
Before Apple writes an iTunes/Quicktime for Vista that doesn't work with QTFairUse, Apple has to write an iTunes for Vista that works with Vista.
No, the iTunes Store's competitors don't all use WMAs.
For online music, the nearest competitor to the iTunes Store in America is eMusic. I don't believe that they use WMAs, and they certainly don't use DRM.
The nearest competitor in Britain was, until recently, Allofmp3. They sold many formats, but I don't think they sold WMAs. They certainly didn't use DRM!
Now, the nearest competitor with 100% approved RIAA music likely does sell WMAs with DRM. But not the absolute nearest competitor, and not every competitor.
You do realize what these conjectures say?
The first conjecture says this: for any axiom system, a machine X can be built that takes a statement in that system and a string; for any proven statement P, a string $p can be constructed such that the pair, when entered into machine X, returns "true"; and that any false statement R will return "false" no matter what string is entered. Problem with this: if your statement is "The Godel statement is not provable," is there a string $g that will return "true"?
The second conjecture says that a black box can be built so that an untrusted user of the box can tell what the outputs should be from the inputs--but nothing else. Turing proved that there could be no such machines.
I would think that after the sort of apocalypse that has you looking for seed banks, the appeal of anorexogenic anything will go down sharply.
Does throwing everyone who plants hemp into prison count?
Don't worry. At the rate we're burning fossil fuel, we should be able to prevent any ice ages from arriving before the Apocalypse. When we run out of oil, America still has lots and lots of coal...
Of course, if global warming turns out to have a "Day After Tomorrow" phase, then your concerns are warranted. Maybe someone can start another Doomsday Seed Bank in Minnesota, north of Duluth. Or in Buffalo, NY.
No, just make a Doomsday Twinkie Vault. Make sure it's more accessible than the seed vault, so it gets found first.
Twinkies should store for a long time. Hey, even if radiation gets in, the Twinkies might still be edible!
I think the seeds themselves are a sufficient MacGuffin. They are what our characters and their rivals are going after. And in the film of this, we would roll the end credits right after they found the seed vaults, or else after they (unintentionally?) destroyed the entrance in an explosive avalanche.