As soon as you have to reach into the murky waters of philosophical nonsense for excuses to shore up your superstitions
When you're done congratulating yourself for defeating strawmen, no matter how funny the involuntarily irony of that may be, can you come back to the argument you clearly have nothing in hand for? Haha...
We need voters that don't fall for deception, we need voters that vote for the interests of the community instead of the lies of their masters. We need voters that make nilly-willy war impossible. We need voters that put banks in their place. We need voters that put all sorts of abuses of authority to a stop. And so on, this list isn't meant to be complete or correct in any way.
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." -- Aesop
^ So we need voters to do it the other way around. And guess what? Evolution or Creationism both have ZERO bearing on that. It's a red herring, and who parades those is my enemy.
So what point is he making? "we need engineers, but only for a little while, until they built good enough robots" -- ?
All that bullshit circular backpatting by mediocre people, I'm fucking sick of it.
.... I STILL haven't smoked enough to have become dumb enough to be happy in this world. Maybe I should have used alcohol or brownnosing? These seem to work extremely well, up to the point of all critical thinking stopping completely. No such luck with THC as of yet:/
Therefore, most of the marijuana trade is actually trying to offer Better, cleaner product then your competitor. At least it is here, anyway.
When I lived in a small town, I saw plenty of weed with sand in it... you assume competition where there might not be much, or even any. But yeah, sugar I mostly recall from being in "pot".
Any sufficiently complex interaction is indistinguishable from sentience, because that IS what sentience is.
That's such a dumb thing to say, you could this about anything. Even matter isn't really a thing, it's the interactions between particles etc. I guess it hinges on the backdoor word "complex", to be conveniently and circularly defined. Bleh.
Once cybernetic systems attain (and surpass) the level of complexity present in humans brains, Artificial Intelligence will be a derogatory term: "Oh you pass yourself off as being smart, but you're just Artificially Intelligent -- You don't actually understand anything!"
We have this already! For example, I would call you that. Anyway, here are some quotes that will go over your head, toaster boy:
The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled.
-- Plutarch
Reason in the sense of understanding is an exclusive quality of Homo sapiens; manipulative intelligence as a tool for the achievement of practical purposes is common to animals and humans. Manipulative intelligence without reason is dangerous because it makes people move in directions that may be self-destructive from the standpoint of reason. In fact, the more brilliant the uncontrolled manipulative intelligence is, the more dangerous it is. It was no less a scientist than Charles Darwin who demonstrated the consequences and the human tragedy of a purely scientific, alienated intellect. He writes in his autobiography that until his thirtieth year he had intensely enjoyed music and poetry and pictures, but that for many years afterward he lost all his taste for these interests: "My mind seems to have become a kind of machine for grinding general laws out of large collections of fact.... The loss of these tastes is a loss of happiness, and may possibly be injurious to the intellect, and more probably to the moral character, by enfeebling the emotional part of our nature."
-- Erich Fromm, "To Have or to Be" (1976)
Yes, that's chauvinistic. Yeah. And. So. What. We're already over the head in schmucks, some chauvinism seems to be in order. I'm not suggesting looking down on on less complex sentience, I just disagree with calling something programmed to mimick sentience sentient, or pretending that intelligence in and of itself means shit. It's just how fast the car goes; the driver and the steering wheel matters more; going real fast and being blind just makes for better crashes. The debris will cover quite some distance, I'll give you that, but other than that it's mostly just compensation for facing actually worthwhile issues.
AI will reach a level where it will be sufficient to completely control the slave population. Then development will more or less stop. Nobody invests million and billions of dollars out of curiosity and goodwill, only a useful idiots working on it would believe that. We're already seeing it with the the web - it had a good run, now it's all about the whores. As for life -- we can't even stop fucking with the life that exists, now we'll make more that we'll totally control -- awesome. You wank to that; I'll wank to the heat death of the universe, the ultimate stopgap for such shennanigans, and mediocre people in general.
Also: Not that it matters, but I don't personally believe that a god created the race of men. However, some do consider this to be true, and yet they do not call themselves Artificial Life...
It doesn't matter indeed, because it's just more hot air BS. Those people call themselves "creatures", which means exactly the same thing. It's a creation that lives, basically, distinguished from a painting or a hat made of toenail clippings by the breath of life.Â
If you disagree with Justin and Prof Scassellati's approach, I'd like to hear your thoughts as to how you'd solve the problem differently.
However, if I'm instead disagreeing with the article and your comment, you'll just avoid that and go full out fucking fallacy. I can critize something without being able to do it better, did you realize that? If you show me an orange and say that's a 1:1 scale model of the Titanic, I can tell you that's not the Titanic -- being able to build a 1:1 scale model of the Titanic isn't required for that. At all. And if you hadn't been educated stupid, you would know that, too, haha.
How is this about anything but image recognition and spatial awareness, including the position and appearance of the object designated as target (the robot doesn't really consider that "I", you know - also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_consciousness )? Is a program that can read all system memory and find itself in it self-aware? It would do it in the same way, and with the same lack of attachment, than finding the location of another program. I presume the same goes for those bots -- what have you, the expert etc., to say to that? Anything at all?
Thanks! Yeah, if all fails, I'll just look at something else that implements it; with a combination of docs and that, and some stubborness to make up for coding genius, I'll get there. And then I hopefully won't be too lazy to make a summary of my findings, ie. the tutorial I'm currently missing:)
I spoke to soon:/ (well, except for the list of OStatus sites, thanks again for that)
Start with `How to OStatus-enable Your Application'.
That page isn't very in-depth (to put it mildly.. it doesn't even link to the homework, much less info like "here are the possible requests, here's what you reply to them", some kind of example exchange between servers, etc.), and the links that *are* on it, are mostly 404:
To make this work, you'll need to implement the http://ostatus.org/schema/1.0/subscribe WebFinger relationship (described in the OStatus protocol documents).
Oh, so one way to keep government people off slashdot would be to post the full text of leaked cables? Thanks for the tip, Mr. or Mrs. Not-Implying-Nor-Denying-They're-A-Fed:P
2. What good and complete tutorials are there for implementing OSTatus? The ones I tried broke my brain. I want less theory and words, at least initially, and more (pseudo) code. Let's start simple: What do I need to do to make my CMS "folllowable" from the three sites above, for example? Too much theory makes me impatient, I need something simple that works and which I can enhance/refactor. So far, I'm stumped. Help? Any other ideas?
One thing is sure, Twitter has never been anything but shit, same for facebook, and app.net is just another dead end, too. So let's skip to the non-bullshit part, even though it's tedious and scary (certainly for me ^^), and get to the actual protocols that are not just a waste of time...
Why shouldn't [blogging or forum software of choice] support OStatus? Why should you not be able to "follow" posters, threads, categories or tags -- ? And if OStatus isn't good enough for that, what is, or how can we make it? I say "we", though I'm a shitty coder, but you get the idea.
So? How is the OP of that.. clown.. not an ad-hominem? Assange is bad because Ecuador isn't perfect, and that means supporters of Assange blah blah blah.
You make it sound like a valid argument was replied to with an ad-hominem. Instead a dumb fucking lame try at sophistry was met with ridicule and abuse. Everything's in perfect order, wether you can see it or not, and no matter how many sock puppets and real people mod stuff.
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When you're done congratulating yourself for defeating strawmen, no matter how funny the involuntarily irony of that may be, can you come back to the argument you clearly have nothing in hand for? Haha...
It would help if he had a point to begin with.
We need voters that don't fall for deception, we need voters that vote for the interests of the community instead of the lies of their masters. We need voters that make nilly-willy war impossible. We need voters that put banks in their place. We need voters that put all sorts of abuses of authority to a stop. And so on, this list isn't meant to be complete or correct in any way.
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." -- Aesop
^ So we need voters to do it the other way around. And guess what? Evolution or Creationism both have ZERO bearing on that. It's a red herring, and who parades those is my enemy.
So what point is he making? "we need engineers, but only for a little while, until they built good enough robots" -- ?
All that bullshit circular backpatting by mediocre people, I'm fucking sick of it.
It's called intellectual integrity; and yours is the brownshirt response to it.
Depends on whom and what they fought for, and why.
After all, if a murderer of families and children comes home, it's mostly time to reflect on who they killed.
.... I STILL haven't smoked enough to have become dumb enough to be happy in this world. Maybe I should have used alcohol or brownnosing? These seem to work extremely well, up to the point of all critical thinking stopping completely. No such luck with THC as of yet :/
When I lived in a small town, I saw plenty of weed with sand in it... you assume competition where there might not be much, or even any. But yeah, sugar I mostly recall from being in "pot".
Eugh.
If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged.
Unfortunately indeed. You fucking bootlicker.
The fuckl? They're being hounded by the very same fascist scum.
Did you have a point or anything?
That's such a dumb thing to say, you could this about anything. Even matter isn't really a thing, it's the interactions between particles etc. I guess it hinges on the backdoor word "complex", to be conveniently and circularly defined. Bleh.
We have this already! For example, I would call you that. Anyway, here are some quotes that will go over your head, toaster boy:
-- Plutarch
-- Erich Fromm, "To Have or to Be" (1976)
Yes, that's chauvinistic. Yeah. And. So. What. We're already over the head in schmucks, some chauvinism seems to be in order. I'm not suggesting looking down on on less complex sentience, I just disagree with calling something programmed to mimick sentience sentient, or pretending that intelligence in and of itself means shit. It's just how fast the car goes; the driver and the steering wheel matters more; going real fast and being blind just makes for better crashes. The debris will cover quite some distance, I'll give you that, but other than that it's mostly just compensation for facing actually worthwhile issues.
AI will reach a level where it will be sufficient to completely control the slave population. Then development will more or less stop. Nobody invests million and billions of dollars out of curiosity and goodwill, only a useful idiots working on it would believe that. We're already seeing it with the the web - it had a good run, now it's all about the whores. As for life -- we can't even stop fucking with the life that exists, now we'll make more that we'll totally control -- awesome. You wank to that; I'll wank to the heat death of the universe, the ultimate stopgap for such shennanigans, and mediocre people in general.
It doesn't matter indeed, because it's just more hot air BS. Those people call themselves "creatures", which means exactly the same thing. It's a creation that lives, basically, distinguished from a painting or a hat made of toenail clippings by the breath of life.Â
However, if I'm instead disagreeing with the article and your comment, you'll just avoid that and go full out fucking fallacy. I can critize something without being able to do it better, did you realize that? If you show me an orange and say that's a 1:1 scale model of the Titanic, I can tell you that's not the Titanic -- being able to build a 1:1 scale model of the Titanic isn't required for that. At all. And if you hadn't been educated stupid, you would know that, too, haha.
How is this about anything but image recognition and spatial awareness, including the position and appearance of the object designated as target (the robot doesn't really consider that "I", you know - also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_consciousness )? Is a program that can read all system memory and find itself in it self-aware? It would do it in the same way, and with the same lack of attachment, than finding the location of another program. I presume the same goes for those bots -- what have you, the expert etc., to say to that? Anything at all?
"it's a lot deeper and more interesting than the article gives it credit for."
Oh Bullshit. Maybe stop wearing ties, your brain needs some oxygen.
I didn't make the rules, I just play by them.
Sorry, I meant downloadable DLC content :P
And that process does not apply to DLC content? Are you sure?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_political_jokes
Thanks! Yeah, if all fails, I'll just look at something else that implements it; with a combination of docs and that, and some stubborness to make up for coding genius, I'll get there. And then I hopefully won't be too lazy to make a summary of my findings, ie. the tutorial I'm currently missing :)
I spoke to soon :/ (well, except for the list of OStatus sites, thanks again for that)
That page isn't very in-depth (to put it mildly.. it doesn't even link to the homework, much less info like "here are the possible requests, here's what you reply to them", some kind of example exchange between servers, etc.), and the links that *are* on it, are mostly 404:
404.
404.
Oh, so one way to keep government people off slashdot would be to post the full text of leaked cables? Thanks for the tip, Mr. or Mrs. Not-Implying-Nor-Denying-They're-A-Fed :P
also relevant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GioWiMxRHLQ :P
I thank you from the bottom of my heart :)
What? Twitter doesn't even support OStatus, where did you get that from?
And how are these sites dependant on Twitter in any way?
so you got nothing. what a surprise.
1. What sites are out there that implement OStatus? I know of
http://rstat.us/
http://identi.ca/
http://status.net/
2. What good and complete tutorials are there for implementing OSTatus? The ones I tried broke my brain. I want less theory and words, at least initially, and more (pseudo) code. Let's start simple: What do I need to do to make my CMS "folllowable" from the three sites above, for example? Too much theory makes me impatient, I need something simple that works and which I can enhance/refactor. So far, I'm stumped. Help? Any other ideas?
One thing is sure, Twitter has never been anything but shit, same for facebook, and app.net is just another dead end, too. So let's skip to the non-bullshit part, even though it's tedious and scary (certainly for me ^^), and get to the actual protocols that are not just a waste of time...
Why shouldn't [blogging or forum software of choice] support OStatus? Why should you not be able to "follow" posters, threads, categories or tags -- ? And if OStatus isn't good enough for that, what is, or how can we make it? I say "we", though I'm a shitty coder, but you get the idea.
such as?
So? How is the OP of that.. clown.. not an ad-hominem? Assange is bad because Ecuador isn't perfect, and that means supporters of Assange blah blah blah.
You make it sound like a valid argument was replied to with an ad-hominem. Instead a dumb fucking lame try at sophistry was met with ridicule and abuse. Everything's in perfect order, wether you can see it or not, and no matter how many sock puppets and real people mod stuff.