Oh boy. You could simply have told me to read your post again, because yeah, I see it now, too. Though your second one didn't help much with that heh.
And yes, you're right that AV software doesn't play in this league. Yes, AV software is mall security, this is bigger, and while making your main point, which went over my head, you also made it seem as if you're saying you can keep safe from what mall security is claiming to protect you from by simply keeping fit and alert. When actually neither can, and if someone wants to rob or kill you real hard, even a 70 year old lady could if she waited for the right moment. Script kiddies can, too, unless you only browse the web with lynx and compile everything yourself (let's assume for a moment that modifying compilers is out of the range of script kiddies). They just haven't yet, maybe because you're that good, or because you're lucky. Unless you detail your "good computing habits", there's just no telling wether you're right or full of it. List what you think will keep you safe, and someone will prove you wrong. Not a military hacker bred in underground laboratories, but a hobbyist, maybe even a kid.
How would good computing habits stop, or even just phase, a virus of this magnitude? Unless of course by "good computing habits" you mean "not running software that has any exploitable flaw whatsoever".. This post was written on a Etch-A-Sketch?
Nah, that's silly. Here's something that isn't: good democratic, anti-fascist habits would preclude the possibility of unlimited budgets being used for nefarious purposes. You can't breed vipers and not get bitten.
(And yes, that also means if Iranians got rid of their clown tyrants, the clown ops of US and Israel wouldn't have had a reason to do this; much less if they themselves weren't clowns. That'd be something real, the rest is just minor duct tape crap. Clowns eating clowns, and more clowns paying dearly for it.)
Having it in the reporting database, what does that mean, exactly?
I'm totally guessing here, but let's say the AV software sends checksums/logs of suspicious files/activities detected via heuristics.
Then those sit there in the databse, until someone looks at them. You can't just delete files from millions of computers without actually having looked at a disassembly, network traffic, whatever (I have no idea how that works in detail), to make absolutely sure it's a virus. No heuristic is that good.
I'm not sure what triggers someone to look at it, but I bet you they have TONS of checksums and files in their database, which they never got around looking at. Not because they're lazy, but because to hire that many people to inspect everything instantly, before it became a problem, would make the software cost like 5000 bucks per license... we're talking about automatically collected files from millions and billions of machines.
And now that the virus made the news, it's trivial to search for that stuff and realize "oh wait, we already had that in the database, we just didn't know it's important". How *could* they have known?
And then there's the whole "shady black ops" stuff. We're talking about viruses that might be made by governments, and you bitch at AV companies? Seriously? People pay nothing up to very little for antivirus software. Do you have the faintest idea how much budget we, collectively and worldwide, are pumping into the pockets of the bad guys, how eagerly we offer our services and resources? It's not the same ballpark, not the same league, not even the same fucking game. You can't train someone in martial arts for 20(00) years and feed them choice meat, and then scream at the starving child that doesn't manage to knock them out. That's just sick, but oh well.
I guess some people used to think that way about safety belts, until inertia convinced them otherwise. Virus infections cost time and money at best, at worst they destroy irreplacable data... so if people won't wise up, viruses will force them to. Just like it works with actual biological infections. I guess only the really smart kids, of which I wasn't one, brush their teeth regularly even though they never had a toothache or heard the drill of a dentist. Why would they bother, right? Sure, some never learn, but usually a painful experience or two helps the whole process along better than anything else could.
It's ultimately not only a matter of "wanting" to deal with it. At some point there's just no choice. Yes, people can choose to not be healthy, until they die of it, and then that's that. Same for computers (which, just like us, will die either way at some point ^^). You can ignore it; until you lost your stuff and/or find yourself disconnected because your network peers protected themselves from your lack of protecting yourself. "If it's too much work for you to not have rabies, then it's too much work for me to hug you". We all do that all the time, for good reason - why not apply it to the digital domain? How can we even afford not to?
It's not like I looked at the source and deducted the flag doesn't work because of "onclick return false;". I simply tried to report my own post; nada. I *think* it used to work, not sure -- I'm sure it hasn't worked with Opera for ages now.
So the answer "it's done via jQuery" is just as stupid as my assumption that because it's broken in Opera it must have been disabled.... it's not that I got confused because it's done via jQuery, and jQuery is so magical --- it's simply broken in Opera. I'm still a fool, but hey, hahaha jQuery.
Only 1%? But that's an epic fail! though I kinda <3 the fact that social networks* are so much less resilient than cows! With cows, you have to tip each one individually. With people, you knock over one out of 100, and the rest drop on their belly and wriggle. A happy GOOSESTEP FUN TIEM is had by all.
But I'm a hyprocrite, because I'm a sucker for memes. I thought writing "You know what you doing!!" (the italic exclamation marks mattered more to me than anyone will ever know) was funny years after the all your base meme had died. I'll never warm up to saying "this", though. For starters, it can be too easily refuted, like by saying "not this, actually". You can outright pwn someone by replying that. But noobs never learn, do they? lulz.
(how did we call the *exactly* same thing before we had the notion of networks, by the way?)
So that answers wether you know about network traffic. And it's also not something that couldn't be done with simple Javascript, so you harp on about jQuery why, exactly? Also, explain why "onlick=return false" is even necessary for any of it. it could just be a plain a tag without href, and javascript (or jquery, for the jQuery monkeys) would be able to hook it up to an action regardless. It's just that when they disabled the flag, they put the "onlick=return false" there.
"'jQuery', he mumbled". Well stop mumbling, either make with the argument (and the CODE), or shut the fuck up already. Show me the code that hooks the flag up to an action, because it surely doesn't in Opera (network traffic! do you speak it?!). You know, it's just not there. You operate on assumptions and jQuery of all fucking things. Bye.
packers and obfuscators, which no legitimate code would have...
Yeah, right. I constantly get warnings about packers (or even keyloggers, because they like hooking it up low level style I guess, and who can blame them) in code that isn't only legitimate, but blows all other code on my computer (including the AV software) out of the water. Things you'd download from scene.org or pouet.net. Sweet, sexy little things.
Ohhh, I'm just looking at a screenshot of that thing...
Es ist die ungesetzliche Tätigkeit enthüllt! [..] mit dieser IP wurden Seiten mit pornografischen Inhalten,Kinderpornographie, Sodomie und Gewalt gegen Kinder aufgerufen. Auf ihrem Computer wurden ebenfalls Videodateien mit pornografischen Inhalten, Elementen von Gewalt und Kinderpornografie. Es wurden auch Emails in Form von Spam, mit terroristischen Hintergründen, verschickt
translates to
The illegal activity, it is revealed! [..] with this IP pages with pornographic content, child porn, sodomy and violence against children were visited. Furthermore, video files with pornographic contents, elements of violence and child porn have been found on your computer. Emails in the form of spam, with terroristic motivations, have been sent as well.
And apart from "Es ist die ungesetzliche Tätigkeit enthüllt!" sounding like the catch phrase of an Engrish Sherlock Holmes, I can't help but notice one thing: The scammers, recognizing their own, seem to know the war on terror's a scam, and they just use it. You see, intellectuals and brainwashed people can discuss all day and night wether an outline of cheese is cheese or the moon -- but this is an actual mouse going for that cheese and eating it. And that just fascinates me in a morbid way. Same goes for child porn hysteria I guess, but that is already well discussed in this thread. This thing plays on the fear of being mistakenly identified and punished as a pedo as well as a terrorist, at least the German version does.
Yes, spammers and virus makers suck. But realize, the people who are actually claiming to earn their luxury by "serving us" (politicians are public servants, remember that the next time your throat is perched), are creating and maintaining a world where something like this might work better than it should.
We have no reason to trust the authorities, so we don't. We know the murderers get elected to high office, the petty thieves are hanged, and that sometimes sometimes ants just get stepped on. So instead of everybody just having a good laugh and reinstalling, some people will actually pay... and I'm not sure I feel comfortable about just blaming the virus authors for that. You see, I wouldn't expect different behaviour from a reckless criminal, I might be glad they're not doing armed robbery instead - not to excuse it, but when it comes to "us" and our "(mis)leaders", we're at least supposed to do better than fucking spammers. And we don't. In a healthy society, such a virus would never have been created. Scamming people who are technically illiterate, yeah, sure. But only the Kafkaesque tyrannies we have enable social engineering on such a low level in the first place.
(Sorry for ranting, and apologies to anyone who actually bothered reading it ^^)
I won't lie, I don't use PHP because I think the language is so pretty, but because PHP and MySQL are what runs just about everywhere. But it still cracks me up that RoR and Python of all things are considered an alternative in their current state, that's apples and oranges to me.
Ruby on Rails is way too much hand holding for my taste (why first spend time breaking out of that, when you can simply start coding instead). And yeah, Python. With the obligatory indendation for no reason *AT ALL*. Just great.
Let's face it: someone needs to find a way to let people code in straight C on shared webhosts in a safe way. I'm not good at it at all, but I always like the rawness of it... what I don't fucking want is *more* frameworks stacked on interpreters stacked on compilers! I'd rather code something crummy from bare scratch, that has fantastic new bugs and an original idea or two, and enjoy doing it, than just fill out the configuration file of framework X and call it a day.
When it comes to good, maintanable code, I submit that any language *I* work in would fail to deliver those results, while *others* are surely able to produce perfectly pretty things, yes, even in PHP. Because at the end of the day it's *your* object, variable and function names, and *your* wiring of them, and the end result is either a sparkling city with helpful signs and flying cars zipping by, or a murky puddle screaming in agony. Getting the former result takes a clear vision, maybe experience, maybe something else I'm lacking -- but it has fuck all to do with the language you're choosing. Maybe a little, but it's not the bigger part, even I as quite the noob know that.
Games like yours are like Solitaire and Minesweeper and such...
And that's bad, why? [..] Casual games seem to be the focus of the topic at hand....
Because, if a job's worth doing, it's worth doing well. Stuff like this and your game is simply a waste of space and unnecessary clutter.
The orginal poster said "but it's just casual, not good enough". The point wasn't "it's mediocre for a casual game" (so what? it's fine for 4 weeks of hobby time, wtf is wrong with people, I'm tempted to say "show me YOUR games then before we continue the conversation"), but "it's a casual game period".
If you want to make a separate point how mediocre games add clutter, do that. But don't just dive in arguing for something the OP didn't even say, and then talk about non-sequiturs.
Now to your shitty "point".
What "clutter" does a hobbyist game add? Do you have some kind of library in your head of everything anyone ever made or said? If you cannot navigate around things you don't like, blame yourself, but don't try to stifle others doing something they like in their free time. Critics like you are like the comic book guy in the Simpsons, you can't do shit other than moan, and you can fuck right off. I smell your impotence.
The point of the poster was, he couldn't have made it without free graphics, and is grateful they exist because hey, it's fun to make a little game -- doing this or working in your garage, who the fuck cares. You're basically saying someone who painted their car should have instead let an artist do it, or simply leave it as it is, because that's just "clutter". Nobody asked you to play the game, nobody claimed it's the shit, surely not the author. So WTF? Just remove your eyes and ears, that will cut the clutter right out at the source. You're welcome, too.
Also, put your money where your mouth is. If you imperfect games piss your petty, pitiful self off so much, offer constructive criticism. I guess you're too fucking stupid to even do that. Gamers. Gah.
They know what happens, it's just that they also know what would happen if governments weren't run by greedy tools.
"Solidarity is the tenderness of the peoples."
Because if real people have better things to do with their own little lives, how much more so on larger scales. And people pay for this stuff -- so they have a right to be "shocked". And it's not like they're not being deceived in small and big ways 24/7, too. Way to be ironic, being shocked that the public is shocked and all that. How do you DO think that public affairs, shady criminal organizations and citizens, the souvereign king, are connected? Is it just hurr-di-durr, or also a bit of lalala? The trash always acts so shocked when it's taken out. My my.
"HURR DURR YOU MAED A MISTAEK SO I CANNOT RESPOND TO ANYTHING ELSE". If you cannot fill the void with an actual response, let the void be there, and the parent be correctly identified as not responded to yet. Easy, no? But some people just get itchy and dumb, they can't do that. So they get slapped, and then someone like you gets itchy and stands up for them, and so on.
But being social (both good and bad, loving and manipulative) IS a career. The list is endless, one example being the President (not related to any skills other than riding crowds and obeying skilled handlers).
Actually, IMHO, people do need to know who they are and what they want first and foremost, not "what society needs". The latter is only good for making Nazis, or to say it more hiply, Chinese. Of course, if society were made up of people who know who they are, then what an individual wants and what makes them and their surroundings better, would probably be very close to each other. But right now, we need people who go against the grain, not people who work on the noose. IMHO we don't need girls to make the same mistakes of men and bend over.
Not that I disagree with both your initial point that "playing with toy guns" is hardly as cognitive as "playing family" (hand-eye coordination is nice, but not cognition, right?), or that girls could do with being less encouraged for *merely* being cute, and ultimately toys themselves. But on the other hand, I've never poked around with computers because I thought there's money in it, and even in my twenties I thought I'd become photographer, musician, ANYTHING but computer stuff really. I always enjoyed computers, since I'm 6, and if anyone would have told me it's the sensible thing to do, I probably wouldn't have. It was *my* thing. Now I suddenly find myself in a world where I'm a half-eyed king among the blind, just because I can look deeper than the icons on the screen, or know what a fucking URL bar is -- while others pay through their nose for not having much clue. I didn't plan this at all, but I'm not complaining.
Because they're not mindless, lazy, untalented go-alongs?
Are you really saying "non-geeks" would be put off by content that adapts to screen size, and text that reformats, because they resize their browser window all the time and get confused? That people don't make static sites because it's easier and quicker, and satisfies pointy-haired bosses, but because of usability testing... ??? AHAHAHAHAHAHA.
You're a coward, but at least you make up for it by being hilariously stupid ^^
That's also a strawman. Walls and paper are "unfiltered", too -- you never know when someone might draw or write something on them, but hey, you'll deal with that when it happens. We do the same with websites. So much for you cynicsm about family-friendlyness -- nobody has got their knickers in a twist other than you guys. Not wanting to show mutilated dicks to children, or being able to educate within the law, doesn't require mental feebleness, even people with nerves made of steel can do it.
No, that "random things can happen" is not the issue with Wikipedia. Those disputed materials are there because they fit in *somewhere* (otherwise they'd just be deleted, after all) --- it's just that it's the adult section where they fit, and that it is mixed with non-adult stuff, i.e. there isn't even a lousy bit to mark them. That both adult and non-adult sections have walls and paper on which random stuff can be written, is unrelated, and would still be the case if there was such a filtering bit.
How would such a filtering bit "ruin it for the rest"? You just make that claim, with nothing to back it up. I say it's the opposite, *not* doing that ruins it for large areas of use, with *zero* added benefit for anyone else. Doing it would mean *no* drawback to anyone else (it would actually make things like "only show the stuff marked as adult" possible haha), and make wikipedia usable in schools. Maybe not for little kids, and it doesn't need to be. But ffs, why shut out teenagers? Just to passive-aggressively get back at what you consider to be pointless prudery?
Everything just in one bucket hampers real education efforts. What real education efforts would be hampered by marking adult content as such? Your total lack of arguments is kinda weak. "Just download it and filter it" (will you pay the taxes for it, and/or accept less teaching time?), vs. "simply don't request filtered content from wikipedia" (the real costs for wikipedia here are "making a decision and a few engineering choices", once that's done the worker bees will basically implement it for free in the medium term), and with a straight face? No. Not even a nice try.
Nah. I like Javascript. With a decent browsers coding to specs, it's fun. I don't want or want to wrap and convolute that, and ultimately miss out on actually learning Javascript, just to display bling to people who use IE, or write $ instead of QuerySelectorAll (IF I wanted that, I'd write my own with the things I actually use, instead of having *everything* in there "just in case"). I know it's the rage, but that is why the world doesn't need me to do it, too. Too many fuckwits use it mindlessly for *everything*. Kinda like peope who use IE. It's a perfect fit -- and I'm happy somewhere completely unrelated to all of that.
What's your point? I know what Jquery is...what's more, I also know that manipulating the DOM after the fact isn't exclusive to JQuery at all. That's just plain fucking Javascript, JQuery merely offers some shorthands. So yeah. JQuery. And the people who use it mindlessly, clueless as they are.... thanks for pointing that out, not that's news... but notice that the flag still doesn't do anything. Just saying "JQuery" doesn't change that.
Do you know what network traffic is? Or do you just know that with JQuery, stuff may not be what it seems -- unlike Javascript! JQuery can do that, Javascript can't -- so whatever you want to be reality, you get to make up?
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Oh boy. You could simply have told me to read your post again, because yeah, I see it now, too. Though your second one didn't help much with that heh.
And yes, you're right that AV software doesn't play in this league. Yes, AV software is mall security, this is bigger, and while making your main point, which went over my head, you also made it seem as if you're saying you can keep safe from what mall security is claiming to protect you from by simply keeping fit and alert. When actually neither can, and if someone wants to rob or kill you real hard, even a 70 year old lady could if she waited for the right moment. Script kiddies can, too, unless you only browse the web with lynx and compile everything yourself (let's assume for a moment that modifying compilers is out of the range of script kiddies). They just haven't yet, maybe because you're that good, or because you're lucky. Unless you detail your "good computing habits", there's just no telling wether you're right or full of it. List what you think will keep you safe, and someone will prove you wrong. Not a military hacker bred in underground laboratories, but a hobbyist, maybe even a kid.
How would good computing habits stop, or even just phase, a virus of this magnitude? Unless of course by "good computing habits" you mean "not running software that has any exploitable flaw whatsoever".. This post was written on a Etch-A-Sketch?
Nah, that's silly. Here's something that isn't: good democratic, anti-fascist habits would preclude the possibility of unlimited budgets being used for nefarious purposes. You can't breed vipers and not get bitten.
(And yes, that also means if Iranians got rid of their clown tyrants, the clown ops of US and Israel wouldn't have had a reason to do this; much less if they themselves weren't clowns. That'd be something real, the rest is just minor duct tape crap. Clowns eating clowns, and more clowns paying dearly for it.)
Having it in the reporting database, what does that mean, exactly?
I'm totally guessing here, but let's say the AV software sends checksums/logs of suspicious files/activities detected via heuristics.
Then those sit there in the databse, until someone looks at them. You can't just delete files from millions of computers without actually having looked at a disassembly, network traffic, whatever (I have no idea how that works in detail), to make absolutely sure it's a virus. No heuristic is that good.
I'm not sure what triggers someone to look at it, but I bet you they have TONS of checksums and files in their database, which they never got around looking at. Not because they're lazy, but because to hire that many people to inspect everything instantly, before it became a problem, would make the software cost like 5000 bucks per license... we're talking about automatically collected files from millions and billions of machines.
And now that the virus made the news, it's trivial to search for that stuff and realize "oh wait, we already had that in the database, we just didn't know it's important". How *could* they have known?
And then there's the whole "shady black ops" stuff. We're talking about viruses that might be made by governments, and you bitch at AV companies? Seriously? People pay nothing up to very little for antivirus software. Do you have the faintest idea how much budget we, collectively and worldwide, are pumping into the pockets of the bad guys, how eagerly we offer our services and resources? It's not the same ballpark, not the same league, not even the same fucking game. You can't train someone in martial arts for 20(00) years and feed them choice meat, and then scream at the starving child that doesn't manage to knock them out. That's just sick, but oh well.
I guess some people used to think that way about safety belts, until inertia convinced them otherwise. Virus infections cost time and money at best, at worst they destroy irreplacable data... so if people won't wise up, viruses will force them to. Just like it works with actual biological infections. I guess only the really smart kids, of which I wasn't one, brush their teeth regularly even though they never had a toothache or heard the drill of a dentist. Why would they bother, right? Sure, some never learn, but usually a painful experience or two helps the whole process along better than anything else could.
It's ultimately not only a matter of "wanting" to deal with it. At some point there's just no choice. Yes, people can choose to not be healthy, until they die of it, and then that's that. Same for computers (which, just like us, will die either way at some point ^^). You can ignore it; until you lost your stuff and/or find yourself disconnected because your network peers protected themselves from your lack of protecting yourself. "If it's too much work for you to not have rabies, then it's too much work for me to hug you". We all do that all the time, for good reason - why not apply it to the digital domain? How can we even afford not to?
Ooops, turns out it's broken just in Opera ^^
It's not like I looked at the source and deducted the flag doesn't work because of "onclick return false;". I simply tried to report my own post; nada. I *think* it used to work, not sure -- I'm sure it hasn't worked with Opera for ages now.
So the answer "it's done via jQuery" is just as stupid as my assumption that because it's broken in Opera it must have been disabled.... it's not that I got confused because it's done via jQuery, and jQuery is so magical --- it's simply broken in Opera. I'm still a fool, but hey, hahaha jQuery.
Only 1%? But that's an epic fail! though I kinda <3 the fact that social networks* are so much less resilient than cows! With cows, you have to tip each one individually. With people, you knock over one out of 100, and the rest drop on their belly and wriggle. A happy GOOSESTEP FUN TIEM is had by all.
But I'm a hyprocrite, because I'm a sucker for memes. I thought writing "You know what you doing!!" (the italic exclamation marks mattered more to me than anyone will ever know) was funny years after the all your base meme had died. I'll never warm up to saying "this", though. For starters, it can be too easily refuted, like by saying "not this, actually". You can outright pwn someone by replying that. But noobs never learn, do they? lulz.
(how did we call the *exactly* same thing before we had the notion of networks, by the way?)
Only it isn't.
So that answers wether you know about network traffic. And it's also not something that couldn't be done with simple Javascript, so you harp on about jQuery why, exactly? Also, explain why "onlick=return false" is even necessary for any of it. it could just be a plain a tag without href, and javascript (or jquery, for the jQuery monkeys) would be able to hook it up to an action regardless. It's just that when they disabled the flag, they put the "onlick=return false" there.
"'jQuery', he mumbled". Well stop mumbling, either make with the argument (and the CODE), or shut the fuck up already. Show me the code that hooks the flag up to an action, because it surely doesn't in Opera (network traffic! do you speak it?!). You know, it's just not there. You operate on assumptions and jQuery of all fucking things. Bye.
what? who said anything remotely resembling that?
if you didn't like the post you replied to, try addressing it. instead of just spazzing and making a boo boo. geez.
Yeah, right. I constantly get warnings about packers (or even keyloggers, because they like hooking it up low level style I guess, and who can blame them) in code that isn't only legitimate, but blows all other code on my computer (including the AV software) out of the water. Things you'd download from scene.org or pouet.net. Sweet, sexy little things.
Ohhh, I'm just looking at a screenshot of that thing...
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And apart from "Es ist die ungesetzliche Tätigkeit enthüllt!" sounding like the catch phrase of an Engrish Sherlock Holmes, I can't help but notice one thing: The scammers, recognizing their own, seem to know the war on terror's a scam, and they just use it. You see, intellectuals and brainwashed people can discuss all day and night wether an outline of cheese is cheese or the moon -- but this is an actual mouse going for that cheese and eating it. And that just fascinates me in a morbid way. Same goes for child porn hysteria I guess, but that is already well discussed in this thread. This thing plays on the fear of being mistakenly identified and punished as a pedo as well as a terrorist, at least the German version does.
Yes, spammers and virus makers suck. But realize, the people who are actually claiming to earn their luxury by "serving us" (politicians are public servants, remember that the next time your throat is perched), are creating and maintaining a world where something like this might work better than it should.
We have no reason to trust the authorities, so we don't. We know the murderers get elected to high office, the petty thieves are hanged, and that sometimes sometimes ants just get stepped on. So instead of everybody just having a good laugh and reinstalling, some people will actually pay... and I'm not sure I feel comfortable about just blaming the virus authors for that. You see, I wouldn't expect different behaviour from a reckless criminal, I might be glad they're not doing armed robbery instead - not to excuse it, but when it comes to "us" and our "(mis)leaders", we're at least supposed to do better than fucking spammers. And we don't. In a healthy society, such a virus would never have been created. Scamming people who are technically illiterate, yeah, sure. But only the Kafkaesque tyrannies we have enable social engineering on such a low level in the first place.
(Sorry for ranting, and apologies to anyone who actually bothered reading it ^^)
Having said all that, I love everything I just read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_(programming_language)
So I'm gonna learn Ruby now, but never touch Ruby on Rails, hah ^^
I won't lie, I don't use PHP because I think the language is so pretty, but because PHP and MySQL are what runs just about everywhere. But it still cracks me up that RoR and Python of all things are considered an alternative in their current state, that's apples and oranges to me.
Ruby on Rails is way too much hand holding for my taste (why first spend time breaking out of that, when you can simply start coding instead). And yeah, Python. With the obligatory indendation for no reason *AT ALL*. Just great.
Let's face it: someone needs to find a way to let people code in straight C on shared webhosts in a safe way. I'm not good at it at all, but I always like the rawness of it... what I don't fucking want is *more* frameworks stacked on interpreters stacked on compilers! I'd rather code something crummy from bare scratch, that has fantastic new bugs and an original idea or two, and enjoy doing it, than just fill out the configuration file of framework X and call it a day.
When it comes to good, maintanable code, I submit that any language *I* work in would fail to deliver those results, while *others* are surely able to produce perfectly pretty things, yes, even in PHP. Because at the end of the day it's *your* object, variable and function names, and *your* wiring of them, and the end result is either a sparkling city with helpful signs and flying cars zipping by, or a murky puddle screaming in agony. Getting the former result takes a clear vision, maybe experience, maybe something else I'm lacking -- but it has fuck all to do with the language you're choosing. Maybe a little, but it's not the bigger part, even I as quite the noob know that.
That's fine, I wasn't exactly aiming for conversation. Your input isn't required.
Sure, but sorting and reading/socializing that way also identifies you as subversive. How convenient indeed!
Nah, you dumb fuck. You're projecting.
The orginal poster said "but it's just casual, not good enough". The point wasn't "it's mediocre for a casual game" (so what? it's fine for 4 weeks of hobby time, wtf is wrong with people, I'm tempted to say "show me YOUR games then before we continue the conversation"), but "it's a casual game period".
If you want to make a separate point how mediocre games add clutter, do that. But don't just dive in arguing for something the OP didn't even say, and then talk about non-sequiturs.
Now to your shitty "point".
What "clutter" does a hobbyist game add? Do you have some kind of library in your head of everything anyone ever made or said? If you cannot navigate around things you don't like, blame yourself, but don't try to stifle others doing something they like in their free time. Critics like you are like the comic book guy in the Simpsons, you can't do shit other than moan, and you can fuck right off. I smell your impotence.
The point of the poster was, he couldn't have made it without free graphics, and is grateful they exist because hey, it's fun to make a little game -- doing this or working in your garage, who the fuck cares. You're basically saying someone who painted their car should have instead let an artist do it, or simply leave it as it is, because that's just "clutter". Nobody asked you to play the game, nobody claimed it's the shit, surely not the author. So WTF? Just remove your eyes and ears, that will cut the clutter right out at the source. You're welcome, too.
Also, put your money where your mouth is. If you imperfect games piss your petty, pitiful self off so much, offer constructive criticism. I guess you're too fucking stupid to even do that. Gamers. Gah.
"I seem to recall" == "I wish it was true"?
They know what happens, it's just that they also know what would happen if governments weren't run by greedy tools.
"Solidarity is the tenderness of the peoples."
Because if real people have better things to do with their own little lives, how much more so on larger scales. And people pay for this stuff -- so they have a right to be "shocked". And it's not like they're not being deceived in small and big ways 24/7, too. Way to be ironic, being shocked that the public is shocked and all that. How do you DO think that public affairs, shady criminal organizations and citizens, the souvereign king, are connected? Is it just hurr-di-durr, or also a bit of lalala? The trash always acts so shocked when it's taken out. My my.
ORLY. So if you turn Minesweeper or Solitaire into a failed abortion of a movie that takes 20 hours to sit through, that's "doing the job right"? Heh.
"HURR DURR YOU MAED A MISTAEK SO I CANNOT RESPOND TO ANYTHING ELSE". If you cannot fill the void with an actual response, let the void be there, and the parent be correctly identified as not responded to yet. Easy, no? But some people just get itchy and dumb, they can't do that. So they get slapped, and then someone like you gets itchy and stands up for them, and so on.
But being social (both good and bad, loving and manipulative) IS a career. The list is endless, one example being the President (not related to any skills other than riding crowds and obeying skilled handlers).
Actually, IMHO, people do need to know who they are and what they want first and foremost, not "what society needs". The latter is only good for making Nazis, or to say it more hiply, Chinese. Of course, if society were made up of people who know who they are, then what an individual wants and what makes them and their surroundings better, would probably be very close to each other. But right now, we need people who go against the grain, not people who work on the noose. IMHO we don't need girls to make the same mistakes of men and bend over.
Not that I disagree with both your initial point that "playing with toy guns" is hardly as cognitive as "playing family" (hand-eye coordination is nice, but not cognition, right?), or that girls could do with being less encouraged for *merely* being cute, and ultimately toys themselves. But on the other hand, I've never poked around with computers because I thought there's money in it, and even in my twenties I thought I'd become photographer, musician, ANYTHING but computer stuff really. I always enjoyed computers, since I'm 6, and if anyone would have told me it's the sensible thing to do, I probably wouldn't have. It was *my* thing. Now I suddenly find myself in a world where I'm a half-eyed king among the blind, just because I can look deeper than the icons on the screen, or know what a fucking URL bar is -- while others pay through their nose for not having much clue. I didn't plan this at all, but I'm not complaining.
Because they're not mindless, lazy, untalented go-alongs?
Are you really saying "non-geeks" would be put off by content that adapts to screen size, and text that reformats, because they resize their browser window all the time and get confused? That people don't make static sites because it's easier and quicker, and satisfies pointy-haired bosses, but because of usability testing ... ??? AHAHAHAHAHAHA.
You're a coward, but at least you make up for it by being hilariously stupid ^^
That's also a strawman. Walls and paper are "unfiltered", too -- you never know when someone might draw or write something on them, but hey, you'll deal with that when it happens. We do the same with websites. So much for you cynicsm about family-friendlyness -- nobody has got their knickers in a twist other than you guys. Not wanting to show mutilated dicks to children, or being able to educate within the law, doesn't require mental feebleness, even people with nerves made of steel can do it.
No, that "random things can happen" is not the issue with Wikipedia. Those disputed materials are there because they fit in *somewhere* (otherwise they'd just be deleted, after all) --- it's just that it's the adult section where they fit, and that it is mixed with non-adult stuff, i.e. there isn't even a lousy bit to mark them. That both adult and non-adult sections have walls and paper on which random stuff can be written, is unrelated, and would still be the case if there was such a filtering bit.
How would such a filtering bit "ruin it for the rest"? You just make that claim, with nothing to back it up. I say it's the opposite, *not* doing that ruins it for large areas of use, with *zero* added benefit for anyone else. Doing it would mean *no* drawback to anyone else (it would actually make things like "only show the stuff marked as adult" possible haha), and make wikipedia usable in schools. Maybe not for little kids, and it doesn't need to be. But ffs, why shut out teenagers? Just to passive-aggressively get back at what you consider to be pointless prudery?
Everything just in one bucket hampers real education efforts. What real education efforts would be hampered by marking adult content as such? Your total lack of arguments is kinda weak. "Just download it and filter it" (will you pay the taxes for it, and/or accept less teaching time?), vs. "simply don't request filtered content from wikipedia" (the real costs for wikipedia here are "making a decision and a few engineering choices", once that's done the worker bees will basically implement it for free in the medium term), and with a straight face? No. Not even a nice try.
That's a mighty lousy strawman you got there. Care to try again?
Nah. I like Javascript. With a decent browsers coding to specs, it's fun. I don't want or want to wrap and convolute that, and ultimately miss out on actually learning Javascript, just to display bling to people who use IE, or write $ instead of QuerySelectorAll (IF I wanted that, I'd write my own with the things I actually use, instead of having *everything* in there "just in case"). I know it's the rage, but that is why the world doesn't need me to do it, too. Too many fuckwits use it mindlessly for *everything*. Kinda like peope who use IE. It's a perfect fit -- and I'm happy somewhere completely unrelated to all of that.
What's your point? I know what Jquery is...what's more, I also know that manipulating the DOM after the fact isn't exclusive to JQuery at all. That's just plain fucking Javascript, JQuery merely offers some shorthands. So yeah. JQuery. And the people who use it mindlessly, clueless as they are.... thanks for pointing that out, not that's news... but notice that the flag still doesn't do anything. Just saying "JQuery" doesn't change that.
Do you know what network traffic is? Or do you just know that with JQuery, stuff may not be what it seems -- unlike Javascript! JQuery can do that, Javascript can't -- so whatever you want to be reality, you get to make up?
JQuery. *groans*