or am I missing something? it seems to me that the only thing needed is a local cache/proxy -- and ISP's (or *anyone* upstream for that matter) are also free to cache stuff marked as "public", if (and that is a big if I guess... and won't happen in the case of google either way, because that would kill their whole usage tracking stuff) the sites send the appropriate headers on those resources. So, just install that local proxy, then write emails to all those webmasters who make it nearly useless... good luck!:P
Any why not? It's not like the US isn't bashing the World. Like making nilly-willy wars, then calling people irrelevant because they're not complete idiots (yet).
Well, let's say there are many countries where people *think* they are more free (to report as they see it). That's the only hard fact that can be gleamed from this, but still. I don't think it's completely random and utterly unrelated to reality either, you know?
And hey, not being able to print swastika stickers or calling for the extermination of people etc. in Germany may be technically a restriction of free speech, but seriously... get a grip. What matters is how free (and able!) people are to speak truth to power, and how brainwashed they are (because freedom ain't worth shit when you're blind), not if they're allowed to call group X or Y subhuman. It's also real hard to use these laws against people who point out corruption, unless they have aspergers or something. So wtf are you on about? Do you even know? A piece of paper, or the reality in a specific nation?
It's a stupid mistake of an automated algorithm. You can blame google for this
Hmm no... what about (paraphrasing) "the copyright holders have reviewed the content in question and have confirmed it's really theirs"? *That* is where google fucked up, by arrogantly assuming their algorithm is right, the complaint is wrong. And if, as you said, having people look at videos costs too much, then the least they could do is change that message to "our automated system blah blah". If you make a robot and set it loose, you're responsible for what it does, because you set it loose. If you drink so much you don't know what you're doing anymore, you are responsible for what you do (even though you don't know what it is), because you drank so much.
The focus is far more on complying with policy than with outcomes [..] Actually come to think about it the private sector isn't THAT different, it is just that times have moved on and the Landed Gentry are quite happy to enact Acts of Enclosure and evict the peasants if sheep farming turns out more profitable with less headcount.
"I hope you all get what you wish for and that you like China as a global steward."
Oh noes, the Russians are coming! No wait, it's America that has bases all over the world and is continually engaging in war. Nice try though -- does that still work on anyone?
If that's you "serving your country", then you serving your country isn't worth the dirt under my shoes. You are helping administering an illegal occupation (of America, by private institutions) and that's all you do. Now "go sit in a trench until we need you to kill somebody".
Are they trying to catch real-world terrorists or Lex Luthor?
Neither. Who the fuck are you kidding, other than yourself? What terrorist would talk in plain text on social networks about serious stuff? I'd be surprised if they're even into mail and cell phones a whole lot. I mean, the ones that actually end up doing stuff -- surely not the American population, which might after all wake up to how badly it's being shafted, and which is the main target of this. The only threat the terrorists face is the tax payers saying "nah, let's pay for something else, schools maybe". So they come up with stuff like this. And hey, it's not like you have any way of knowing what they're actually searching for, that won't be declassified for 50 years, if ever. This is just something to tell people "they're watching", and the more shallow the discussion about it is, the better.
I don't see anything that would flag for a white Christian "America First" group
Why would a bunch of Nazis monitor a bunch of Nazis?
Yes, I alluding to white supremacists and radical pro-life groups that resort to bombings and doctor assassinations.
Which in turn increases the pretext for ramping up security? Again why would anyone in power monitor that, other than to know where to send cheques? It's not like the people who run the country perform abortions, or give a flying fuck about those who do. And religious turmoil is always good, that is the perfect distract from anything and everything that matters.
Yeah, I'm being cranky. So what. Also, Lenny will perform the Green Cheese at the Saturday Lane with a scooter full of bobcats and two, at 72 north hotel sigma poopyhead alpha.
And the DHS has what business of doing that, exactly?
Again, I think it's silly they're trying to monitor social networks to this level, but if they're going to do it those aren't the worst keywords.
"social networks" -- ?? Come on, that's just silly. They might as well save everybody some time and come right out and track "*", cuz that's what they're after. Anyone remember "Total Information Awareness"? Did you *really* think that *actually* died? Sure.
I am? Strange, I have no recollection of saying or implying such a thing, and that wouldn't be rational either. You could block anything not plain-text with a URL in it and then you'd probably not get any spam at all, though the number of false positives would skyrocket, something that I don't fear when it comes to Google's filters.
Again, why are you fantasizing about my inbox? When I told you I don't get spam I meant that, and that doesn't involve lifting a finger on my part, and I've not missed out on a single message I was supposed to get, *ever*. So whatever they're doing, they're doing it more or less perfectly as far as I am concerned, and Google has nothing to offer to me in that regard.
I don't know about you, but usually I don't discuss my bombing plans via E-mail
Huh? You don't know about me indeed, that's why you talk about strawmen. It's a matter of principle. I *like* the idea of transactions that go like "this is what I give you, this is what you give me, have a nice day" -- instead of the slimy bullshit that is so common. And when it comes to email, I'd rather more or less literally own it. It's not expensive, it's like a soft drink a month, so wtf are you going nuts about stuff like
If your only reason to do that is to stick it to the man,
?? Blah blah blah. And if you want to suck the man's cock while you keep his shiny gagdets on display for your grandkids to blankly stare at, you're more than welcome, too. No wait, actually, If the only reason you're replying is so you can talk about strawmen, why don't you simply -- don't?
The less boring you sound to a government agency, the more likely they are to care about your life.
I'm not into appeasement. And who's talking about government agencies, anyway? As far as I (don't) know, they (would love to) grab everything at the packet level. But that's completely besides the reasons why I think Google email is pointless. I don't see why you're so into defending it, I'm just not using the free service you're so happy about.. deal with it!
Maybe they should do what the smart criminals are doing? Remember, "we hang the petty thieves, and appoint the murderers to high office" -- that's not just still true, that's even more true than ever before. So just become too big to fail or something, and instead of going to jail you'll get the big moneys.
At any rate, you simply gotta plunder from the poor and helpless and you'll be fine. And when you get "found out", you just grin and play for time.
You can simply not compete with Google when it comes to anti-spam solutions, they offer the best filter, which is fed by millions of users worldwide.
You're basically telling me I am getting spam -- and I don't. And I've never been shy about my email or bothered to obfuscate it etc. So bollocks to that.
regarding a "decent webhost", why would I pay for a service that Google offers for free?
Because Google does NOT offer "that service" (your own email, not read by bots other than a one-time spamcheck, and when you delete it it's *actually* gone) for free. I would want to have my own webspace either way, and if it comes with more email than I could possibly need, why would I use Google of all things? If people can't even be arsed to pay for something like email, while (likely) paying 10 times as much for telephone... well, I don't get it. To each their own.
not in the first world they don't. but hey, with nanodrones coming up, paid for by american taxpayers of course, assassination anywhere all the time will be easy peasy. "oh noes, his heart gave out. too bad, shit happens."
Exactly! As a hobby photographer it often amazed me how a decent camera and lens, plus the attitude you described, makes other people react sometimes or what it lets one get away with. Like stumbling into and through an area full of cops and only later finding out that civilians aren't allowed in there. Just act like you're on the way to something important, don't be a tourist, be light-hearted and content and focused. That is, even if you're just checking everything out, act like you're focusing on a task (it can even be just getting from A to B while checking your equipment (which in the case of this topic would be your mobile devices I guess:P)). Maybe even give a professional nod here and there haha. If nothing else, it's hilarious!
I didn't say useless (I'd be a liar), I said sterile. Should I ever get nostalgic about the web when I'm old, I'd probably remember a lot of websites/forums fondly, but google, microsoft, apple et al mostly as the needy guys who showed up everywhere, yet never got anything. If I'll remember them at all.
As to email, get a decent webhost is all I can say.
"Zuckerberg's whole "everyone should share their whole lives with the world" mantra just does not fit with me and that is why Facebook does not fit with me."
isn't there a similar quote from a google honcho? something along the lines "if you don't want anyone to know about it, maybe you shouldn't be doing it". If I recalled that correctly, surely someone will post the quote/source.. otherwise, disregard this message:P
I wonder, does zuckibaby walk the walk? i.e., where is his profile, the pics of his kids and drinking binges? same goes for google... what a crock of toys. these men have become (started out?) so extremely lame before they even reached mid-life -- when they get *really* old there will be fucking hell to pay.
There is an easy way to get people to move. When somebody asks and wants to see your photos, streams, etc and they ask you to stick it on facebook you simply say "sorry, I don't use facebook. I use Google Plus".
But nobody is asking me! That's why I lean over to strangers on the bus, and say "no, actually, I stopped logging in to facebook and google. I have a life!", as if in response to something they said. And when they look confused, I nod and say "yes, I know, not many people have the balls for that." If I time it just right, so the bus reaches my stop in the next moments, I can walk off with my head held high and a sizeable erection to boot.
I can't even be arsed to log in, to tell the people who added me that I'm not using the thing. Anyone here ever had any emotional attachment to a Google product? I can't help but notice how sterile, meaningless and replacable all their crap is. Not that facebook is any better of course; mediocrity is as mediocrity does.
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uhm?
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html#sec14.9.1
or am I missing something? it seems to me that the only thing needed is a local cache/proxy -- and ISP's (or *anyone* upstream for that matter) are also free to cache stuff marked as "public", if (and that is a big if I guess... and won't happen in the case of google either way, because that would kill their whole usage tracking stuff) the sites send the appropriate headers on those resources. So, just install that local proxy, then write emails to all those webmasters who make it nearly useless... good luck! :P
Any why not? It's not like the US isn't bashing the World. Like making nilly-willy wars, then calling people irrelevant because they're not complete idiots (yet).
You dish, you take it - you dumb whiny bitch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
Well, let's say there are many countries where people *think* they are more free (to report as they see it). That's the only hard fact that can be gleamed from this, but still. I don't think it's completely random and utterly unrelated to reality either, you know?
And hey, not being able to print swastika stickers or calling for the extermination of people etc. in Germany may be technically a restriction of free speech, but seriously... get a grip. What matters is how free (and able!) people are to speak truth to power, and how brainwashed they are (because freedom ain't worth shit when you're blind), not if they're allowed to call group X or Y subhuman. It's also real hard to use these laws against people who point out corruption, unless they have aspergers or something. So wtf are you on about? Do you even know? A piece of paper, or the reality in a specific nation?
Hmm no... what about (paraphrasing) "the copyright holders have reviewed the content in question and have confirmed it's really theirs"? *That* is where google fucked up, by arrogantly assuming their algorithm is right, the complaint is wrong. And if, as you said, having people look at videos costs too much, then the least they could do is change that message to "our automated system blah blah". If you make a robot and set it loose, you're responsible for what it does, because you set it loose. If you drink so much you don't know what you're doing anymore, you are responsible for what you do (even though you don't know what it is), because you drank so much.
The only coat tails worth pulling, lest you throw your life away riding them.
Yeah, and? You're not that bright, are you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVOXYMUW4qo
"I hope you all get what you wish for and that you like China as a global steward."
Oh noes, the Russians are coming! No wait, it's America that has bases all over the world and is continually engaging in war. Nice try though -- does that still work on anyone?
If that's you "serving your country", then you serving your country isn't worth the dirt under my shoes. You are helping administering an illegal occupation (of America, by private institutions) and that's all you do. Now "go sit in a trench until we need you to kill somebody".
Neither. Who the fuck are you kidding, other than yourself? What terrorist would talk in plain text on social networks about serious stuff? I'd be surprised if they're even into mail and cell phones a whole lot. I mean, the ones that actually end up doing stuff -- surely not the American population, which might after all wake up to how badly it's being shafted, and which is the main target of this. The only threat the terrorists face is the tax payers saying "nah, let's pay for something else, schools maybe". So they come up with stuff like this. And hey, it's not like you have any way of knowing what they're actually searching for, that won't be declassified for 50 years, if ever. This is just something to tell people "they're watching", and the more shallow the discussion about it is, the better.
Why would a bunch of Nazis monitor a bunch of Nazis?
Which in turn increases the pretext for ramping up security? Again why would anyone in power monitor that, other than to know where to send cheques? It's not like the people who run the country perform abortions, or give a flying fuck about those who do. And religious turmoil is always good, that is the perfect distract from anything and everything that matters.
Yeah, I'm being cranky. So what. Also, Lenny will perform the Green Cheese at the Saturday Lane with a scooter full of bobcats and two, at 72 north hotel sigma poopyhead alpha.
And the DHS has what business of doing that, exactly?
"social networks" -- ?? Come on, that's just silly. They might as well save everybody some time and come right out and track "*", cuz that's what they're after. Anyone remember "Total Information Awareness"? Did you *really* think that *actually* died? Sure.
Again, why are you fantasizing about my inbox? When I told you I don't get spam I meant that, and that doesn't involve lifting a finger on my part, and I've not missed out on a single message I was supposed to get, *ever*. So whatever they're doing, they're doing it more or less perfectly as far as I am concerned, and Google has nothing to offer to me in that regard.
Huh? You don't know about me indeed, that's why you talk about strawmen. It's a matter of principle. I *like* the idea of transactions that go like "this is what I give you, this is what you give me, have a nice day" -- instead of the slimy bullshit that is so common. And when it comes to email, I'd rather more or less literally own it. It's not expensive, it's like a soft drink a month, so wtf are you going nuts about stuff like
?? Blah blah blah. And if you want to suck the man's cock while you keep his shiny gagdets on display for your grandkids to blankly stare at, you're more than welcome, too. No wait, actually, If the only reason you're replying is so you can talk about strawmen, why don't you simply -- don't?
I'm not into appeasement. And who's talking about government agencies, anyway? As far as I (don't) know, they (would love to) grab everything at the packet level. But that's completely besides the reasons why I think Google email is pointless. I don't see why you're so into defending it, I'm just not using the free service you're so happy about.. deal with it!
Maybe they should do what the smart criminals are doing? Remember, "we hang the petty thieves, and appoint the murderers to high office" -- that's not just still true, that's even more true than ever before. So just become too big to fail or something, and instead of going to jail you'll get the big moneys.
At any rate, you simply gotta plunder from the poor and helpless and you'll be fine. And when you get "found out", you just grin and play for time.
you already have them.. certainly in your stomach, and depending on your hygiene, maybe elsewhere too :P
You're basically telling me I am getting spam -- and I don't. And I've never been shy about my email or bothered to obfuscate it etc. So bollocks to that.
Because Google does NOT offer "that service" (your own email, not read by bots other than a one-time spamcheck, and when you delete it it's *actually* gone) for free. I would want to have my own webspace either way, and if it comes with more email than I could possibly need, why would I use Google of all things? If people can't even be arsed to pay for something like email, while (likely) paying 10 times as much for telephone... well, I don't get it. To each their own.
not in the first world they don't. but hey, with nanodrones coming up, paid for by american taxpayers of course, assassination anywhere all the time will be easy peasy. "oh noes, his heart gave out. too bad, shit happens."
Exactly! As a hobby photographer it often amazed me how a decent camera and lens, plus the attitude you described, makes other people react sometimes or what it lets one get away with. Like stumbling into and through an area full of cops and only later finding out that civilians aren't allowed in there. Just act like you're on the way to something important, don't be a tourist, be light-hearted and content and focused. That is, even if you're just checking everything out, act like you're focusing on a task (it can even be just getting from A to B while checking your equipment (which in the case of this topic would be your mobile devices I guess :P)). Maybe even give a professional nod here and there haha. If nothing else, it's hilarious!
I didn't say useless (I'd be a liar), I said sterile. Should I ever get nostalgic about the web when I'm old, I'd probably remember a lot of websites/forums fondly, but google, microsoft, apple et al mostly as the needy guys who showed up everywhere, yet never got anything. If I'll remember them at all.
As to email, get a decent webhost is all I can say.
"Zuckerberg's whole "everyone should share their whole lives with the world" mantra just does not fit with me and that is why Facebook does not fit with me."
isn't there a similar quote from a google honcho? something along the lines "if you don't want anyone to know about it, maybe you shouldn't be doing it". If I recalled that correctly, surely someone will post the quote/source.. otherwise, disregard this message :P
I wonder, does zuckibaby walk the walk? i.e., where is his profile, the pics of his kids and drinking binges? same goes for google... what a crock of toys. these men have become (started out?) so extremely lame before they even reached mid-life -- when they get *really* old there will be fucking hell to pay.
But nobody is asking me! That's why I lean over to strangers on the bus, and say "no, actually, I stopped logging in to facebook and google. I have a life!", as if in response to something they said. And when they look confused, I nod and say "yes, I know, not many people have the balls for that." If I time it just right, so the bus reaches my stop in the next moments, I can walk off with my head held high and a sizeable erection to boot.
Awesome. "With the power of technology, I now can lie to the women who gave me life, which I otherwise would not dare" ^^
I can't even be arsed to log in, to tell the people who added me that I'm not using the thing. Anyone here ever had any emotional attachment to a Google product? I can't help but notice how sterile, meaningless and replacable all their crap is. Not that facebook is any better of course; mediocrity is as mediocrity does.
why thank you ^^
Nah, it just makes you a tool. You're too stupid to be considered a villain, sorry.
In so far that pressure (propaganda and drill among others) and automation (coming soon to a domestic theatre near you) are in effect.