It's something that the "ZOMG IT TAKES LIKE ELEVENTY MILLION KILOS OF GRAIN TO MAKE A KILO OF BEEF" crowd forget - a lot of what animals eat just comes back out. It gets turned into really really good fertiliser. Tonnes of it.
Nope, it's basic biology/phyics... every layer "sun to algae -> algae to bigger organisms -> etc." only passes on about 10% of the energy. So I guess that makes it the "knows some stuffs and doesn't suck at math" crowd...
Someone was broadcasting data into the public space and another person recorded it. If it's private data then don't broadcast it publicly unencrypted, that's what encryption is for!
That is your personal advice and has NO bearing on the legality of it though.
No. On the intarwebs, with HTML available, it makes much for sense for the author of a post to link obscure terms, than hundreds, thousands or more readers EACH having to "put their finger down, move their hand one inch, and put their finger down again". Especially if linking the term isn't really that much more effort for the original poster.
You do know that Macs support regular mice, right?
Yeah, so? It's still has been the default for how long? And why exactly? Nah, my LOL still stands, deal with it ^^
What have you done recently that's innovative?
Quite a bunch of things -- but what has that got to do with anything haha?
you can't call a company greedy just because they turn a profit.
Nice strawman there. I didn't call them greedy because they make a profit, but because they so blatantly broke their promises with L4D to make more cash. That's all I ever bought from them, so you can say in 100% of my dealings with them I have been slightly fucked over. Cynically even.
And what do I care that they might give away little teasers here and there?! Portal is not "their products", it's basically a neat idea they turned into a short puzzle game. They're NOW giving it away for free, they didn't initially - so what else do they give away for free, that you can claim they "give away their products for free"? LMAO...
Haha yeah, I kinde wondered why nobody called me out on that yet... I'm just bitter because I like L4D (versus mode) a lot, and Valve made a lot of promises with regards to "continous updates a lá TF2". Instead they moved on to L4D2 (and selling stuffed zombies FFS). Rargh.. but okay, in the big scheme of gaming devs it's probably silly to call them greedy whores uh. Still, rargh! ^^
As for Steam, I like that. Being able to run it on as many machines as you wish (obviously only being able to run one of them at the same, but still) might even be more generous than the licenses of many titles that come on CD/DVD. But then again the little gaming I do these days is multiplayer only, so the whole "you have to connected" thing isn't a gripe for me.
I wonder what Desura will bring... (only PC and XBOX though it seems ugh)
No, open like a Mac compared to, say, a Gamecube. None of you going ROFL have actually watched even the first five minutes of the interview, have you? It's boring, it's annoying, but at least it clears up that misconception. None of you (so far, as I'm posting this) are actually discussing the subject of the article, anything he actually says.
Oh, and just to make it clear, I think Mac sucks (1mousebuttonLOLOLOLkthxbai) and Valve is a bunch of greedy, uninspired whores. I'm not defending them, I don't care at all about this.... I just think y'all are tards too, for talking to/about strawmen exclusively. Cheers.
Your wifi is sending everything you do 300' (more or less) in all directions. Encrypt it or STFU.
"Your body can easily be crushed by strong people. Exercise more or STFU. Just because you don't know Kung-Fu gives you know rights to sue someone who went Ninja on your ass. Or at least win in court."
Hmm.
Privacy laws exist, they exist for reasons, and if they apply, they do apply. The fact that something is easy to do does NOT make it automatically legal. So before you tell others to shut the fuck up, maybe you should have something of merit to say yourself.
it's absolutely no different from going down the street and shouting out your credit card number and banking details, which of course is most certainly not an invasion of privacy if someone listens.
They weren't "listening", they recorded it. Random fragments, yeah, but still on a MUCH bigger scale than "someone listening to someone else shouting". That analogy just gets more retarded the more often it's repeated, since it completely misses the point.
Shouldn't they be suing the router manufacters They're the ones responsible for everybody broadcasting the evil information by default.
No. Just like you don't sue the manufacturer of a door because they delivered the door to someone who then didn't lock it.
You sue the guy(s) who broke the law, not every single entity that could have done "something" to prevent that from happening.
If sniffing and recording this information is illegal in some EU countries (no idea if it is), then the fact that it was sent unencrypted does not matter at all.
Even if we sue Google the real criminals can still just drive down the street and collect it.
And if you don't, how can you then go after those "real criminals" without them pointing to this?
"more features and faster response than a smaller footprint"
yeah, but you wouldn't want to have the *same* features and response, but a bigger footprint, right? or even less features, slower respons, AND bigger footprint, correct?
it's not like it's either big or unefficient. sometimes things are big AND unefficient, and that's bloatware. the whole "yeah but more features take more resources" is a red herring.
huh? someone can say "psychology isn't science" without being a scientology shill. so implying they are as the argument, kinda seems bullyish* to me, hence psychology shill.
* (as does your reply - how does make reply make me a "scientology fan" huh? and then you even mention merit and relevance..)
So? Another one poster replying to what *they* think I am implying by posting that 1K intro.. instead of to the paragraph of text that follows it... sigh.
However, the German government isn't "looking into them", they are stating as a fact that Google has violated German law.
Do you have a source for that? From the article:
"BERLIN — Google came under increased pressure in Europe on Tuesday over its collection of private data from unsecured home wireless networks as a German regulator threatened legal action if the company did not surrender a hard drive for inspection."
How does a German regulator demanding to inspect the harddrives translate to "the German Government stating as a fact that Google has violated German law"? Because of Nazi Germany? LOL?
More importantly, nobody has established as a fact that Google even violated German law.
Exactly... since the harddrives would have to be looked at for that, you know?
I really want something that is close to my preferences by default.
Well good for you, but I don't:) Especially when those preferences are basically "what I already know", not "how I would stuff to be if I knew all the options and have tried what works best for me". Actually, going through most (if not all) configuration dialogs to tweak things I understand and have a quick glance at things I don't understand - just to see what's there - is essential for me. And nope, that doesn't take long after decades of practice, 99% of options are the same anywhere. It's like putting on your seatbelt when sitting in a car, you don't even really notice you're doing it, and someone suggesting to you to "not bother because it's too complicated" would seem insane to you.
That doesn't mean I wouldn't want Operas defaults to be as close to everybodies preferences as possible, it's your right to not bother and just use stuff out of the box... but in a way, I consider those users as minors, not adults. They should be tended to, but they cannot possible decide how software evolves and kick out features because they don't see a need for them. Software can be much more powerful, it can be like a glove that extends you; that trumps you being the glove that fits the software, and always will.
The GGP (don't know if that was you) wrote about "slick GUI vs. XUL". That's surely on a level where anybody who's not interested in Firefox's or Opera's implementation details gets to know the difference between them for a user-level point of view. It's also "digging deep". So the GP asked for end-user oriented information about the differences -- why should he need to "have a clue" to ask such a question?
No, for my understanding the poster questioned the claim that Operas GUI is "robust" as something vague.
And the whole GUI and usage feels a lot more robust than Firefox's XUL-based interface.
This sounds like the way an audiophile would describe a cable. Can you describe the characteristics of a robust GUI to a user?
I guess I kinda read that as the whole audio cable snake oil thing... saying the GUI is "robust" because you have no actual data/facts. Sorry to the poster if I misunderstood that, I guess I did hehe.
But I didn't say you got to have a clue to ask that question.. would make no sense would it, plus I even answered it: just right click stuff and be curious and you should quickly notice what we mean. But not having used it really and then demanding an explanation of robust, because otherwise it's something vague and doesn't mean much.. well, no. It just doesn't mean much to YOU. It's like someone wanting a better description of "sex" than "amazing and intense". Well, no. Go get laid, and then you will know what I mean by those terms in that context.
Perfectionist, efficient, generous, super slick bordering on pretty... HONEST are the words I would use to describe my reasons to use Opera since 2000 or so. That sounds utterly fanboyish, but you can't conclude from that it's not based in reality and true (for me, since those terms are all subjective). Just use the thing and see if you can come up with better terms I guess ^^
Seriously man, demos are cool and I've been a fan for a long time, but stop trying to pretend that this is a realistic example.
I never started pretending that, so how could I possibly stop?! I just posted a link and said it's 1K. New paragraph, actual post/opinion. Anything you read into my linking that video is just that, stuff you read into it which I never claimed.. I just figured this might be interesting for someone who doesn't even BLINK at the idea of a hello world program taking up 10MB haha..
Great, but then they just should pass on comments like "this sounds like an audiophile talking about magic cables". Since they have no clue what they are talking about and stuff...
"Yes, I would be able to configure it to work the way I want, but I just don't want to go through that."
who says you have to, just because you can? the OP asked what's so great about the GUI, I answered: it's the GUI you want it to be.
"That might be a lot of work"
nah. just right click something, select "customize -> appearance", then drag and drop to your hearts content. it just takes a bit of curiosity really, and it's less work than spending THOUSANDS of hours using an app as it comes out of the box. I don't think of configuring apps as work, I consider it saving work, making work easier. but yeah, different strokes for different people.
"and still something would bug me"
so? nothing is perfect. still makes it sense to spend a while minutes making it as good (for you) as it can be, instead of giving up altogether.. IMHO.
"or the configurations could be lost in the next version update (I don't know if this happens with Opera or not)"
Nope, upgrading Opera is as painless as it possibly could be.
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friended, just to piss 'tards like you off ^^
Nope, it's basic biology/phyics... every layer "sun to algae -> algae to bigger organisms -> etc." only passes on about 10% of the energy. So I guess that makes it the "knows some stuffs and doesn't suck at math" crowd...
Bullshit... and that drives you nuts, apparently. Why?
That is your personal advice and has NO bearing on the legality of it though.
No. On the intarwebs, with HTML available, it makes much for sense for the author of a post to link obscure terms, than hundreds, thousands or more readers EACH having to "put their finger down, move their hand one inch, and put their finger down again". Especially if linking the term isn't really that much more effort for the original poster.
Yeah, so? It's still has been the default for how long? And why exactly? Nah, my LOL still stands, deal with it ^^
Quite a bunch of things -- but what has that got to do with anything haha?
Nice strawman there. I didn't call them greedy because they make a profit, but because they so blatantly broke their promises with L4D to make more cash. That's all I ever bought from them, so you can say in 100% of my dealings with them I have been slightly fucked over. Cynically even.
And what do I care that they might give away little teasers here and there?! Portal is not "their products", it's basically a neat idea they turned into a short puzzle game. They're NOW giving it away for free, they didn't initially - so what else do they give away for free, that you can claim they "give away their products for free"? LMAO...
Haha yeah, I kinde wondered why nobody called me out on that yet... I'm just bitter because I like L4D (versus mode) a lot, and Valve made a lot of promises with regards to "continous updates a lá TF2". Instead they moved on to L4D2 (and selling stuffed zombies FFS). Rargh.. but okay, in the big scheme of gaming devs it's probably silly to call them greedy whores uh. Still, rargh! ^^
As for Steam, I like that. Being able to run it on as many machines as you wish (obviously only being able to run one of them at the same, but still) might even be more generous than the licenses of many titles that come on CD/DVD. But then again the little gaming I do these days is multiplayer only, so the whole "you have to connected" thing isn't a gripe for me.
I wonder what Desura will bring... (only PC and XBOX though it seems ugh)
you: aware of the context and the actual meaning of that statement
Na, you're just lacking context and have no clue what the words in the summary mean ^^
So? It's still more open than a Gamecube...
No, open like a Mac compared to, say, a Gamecube. None of you going ROFL have actually watched even the first five minutes of the interview, have you? It's boring, it's annoying, but at least it clears up that misconception. None of you (so far, as I'm posting this) are actually discussing the subject of the article, anything he actually says.
Oh, and just to make it clear, I think Mac sucks (1mousebuttonLOLOLOLkthxbai) and Valve is a bunch of greedy, uninspired whores. I'm not defending them, I don't care at all about this.... I just think y'all are tards too, for talking to/about strawmen exclusively. Cheers.
"Google were doing the same, only saving it to long-term storage."
which exactly is the issue here.
"Your body can easily be crushed by strong people. Exercise more or STFU. Just because you don't know Kung-Fu gives you know rights to sue someone who went Ninja on your ass. Or at least win in court."
Hmm.
Privacy laws exist, they exist for reasons, and if they apply, they do apply. The fact that something is easy to do does NOT make it automatically legal. So before you tell others to shut the fuck up, maybe you should have something of merit to say yourself.
They weren't "listening", they recorded it. Random fragments, yeah, but still on a MUCH bigger scale than "someone listening to someone else shouting". That analogy just gets more retarded the more often it's repeated, since it completely misses the point.
No. Just like you don't sue the manufacturer of a door because they delivered the door to someone who then didn't lock it.
You sue the guy(s) who broke the law, not every single entity that could have done "something" to prevent that from happening.
If sniffing and recording this information is illegal in some EU countries (no idea if it is), then the fact that it was sent unencrypted does not matter at all.
And if you don't, how can you then go after those "real criminals" without them pointing to this?
"more features and faster response than a smaller footprint"
yeah, but you wouldn't want to have the *same* features and response, but a bigger footprint, right? or even less features, slower respons, AND bigger footprint, correct?
it's not like it's either big or unefficient. sometimes things are big AND unefficient, and that's bloatware. the whole "yeah but more features take more resources" is a red herring.
huh? someone can say "psychology isn't science" without being a scientology shill. so implying they are as the argument, kinda seems bullyish* to me, hence psychology shill.
* (as does your reply - how does make reply make me a "scientology fan" huh? and then you even mention merit and relevance..)
Psychology shill...
So? Another one poster replying to what *they* think I am implying by posting that 1K intro .. instead of to the paragraph of text that follows it... sigh.
Do you have a source for that? From the article:
"BERLIN — Google came under increased pressure in Europe on Tuesday over its collection of private data from unsecured home wireless networks as a German regulator threatened legal action if the company did not surrender a hard drive for inspection."
How does a German regulator demanding to inspect the harddrives translate to "the German Government stating as a fact that Google has violated German law"? Because of Nazi Germany? LOL?
Exactly... since the harddrives would have to be looked at for that, you know?
Well good for you, but I don't :) Especially when those preferences are basically "what I already know", not "how I would stuff to be if I knew all the options and have tried what works best for me". Actually, going through most (if not all) configuration dialogs to tweak things I understand and have a quick glance at things I don't understand - just to see what's there - is essential for me. And nope, that doesn't take long after decades of practice, 99% of options are the same anywhere. It's like putting on your seatbelt when sitting in a car, you don't even really notice you're doing it, and someone suggesting to you to "not bother because it's too complicated" would seem insane to you.
That doesn't mean I wouldn't want Operas defaults to be as close to everybodies preferences as possible, it's your right to not bother and just use stuff out of the box... but in a way, I consider those users as minors, not adults. They should be tended to, but they cannot possible decide how software evolves and kick out features because they don't see a need for them. Software can be much more powerful, it can be like a glove that extends you; that trumps you being the glove that fits the software, and always will.
Opera can do that :D
No, for my understanding the poster questioned the claim that Operas GUI is "robust" as something vague.
I guess I kinda read that as the whole audio cable snake oil thing... saying the GUI is "robust" because you have no actual data/facts. Sorry to the poster if I misunderstood that, I guess I did hehe.
But I didn't say you got to have a clue to ask that question.. would make no sense would it, plus I even answered it: just right click stuff and be curious and you should quickly notice what we mean. But not having used it really and then demanding an explanation of robust, because otherwise it's something vague and doesn't mean much.. well, no. It just doesn't mean much to YOU. It's like someone wanting a better description of "sex" than "amazing and intense". Well, no. Go get laid, and then you will know what I mean by those terms in that context.
Perfectionist, efficient, generous, super slick bordering on pretty... HONEST are the words I would use to describe my reasons to use Opera since 2000 or so. That sounds utterly fanboyish, but you can't conclude from that it's not based in reality and true (for me, since those terms are all subjective). Just use the thing and see if you can come up with better terms I guess ^^
I never started pretending that, so how could I possibly stop?! I just posted a link and said it's 1K. New paragraph, actual post/opinion. Anything you read into my linking that video is just that, stuff you read into it which I never claimed.. I just figured this might be interesting for someone who doesn't even BLINK at the idea of a hello world program taking up 10MB haha..
"Not everyone wants to dig deep."
Great, but then they just should pass on comments like "this sounds like an audiophile talking about magic cables". Since they have no clue what they are talking about and stuff...
"Yes, I would be able to configure it to work the way I want, but I just don't want to go through that."
who says you have to, just because you can? the OP asked what's so great about the GUI, I answered: it's the GUI you want it to be.
"That might be a lot of work"
nah. just right click something, select "customize -> appearance", then drag and drop to your hearts content. it just takes a bit of curiosity really, and it's less work than spending THOUSANDS of hours using an app as it comes out of the box. I don't think of configuring apps as work, I consider it saving work, making work easier. but yeah, different strokes for different people.
"and still something would bug me"
so? nothing is perfect. still makes it sense to spend a while minutes making it as good (for you) as it can be, instead of giving up altogether.. IMHO.
"or the configurations could be lost in the next version update (I don't know if this happens with Opera or not)"
Nope, upgrading Opera is as painless as it possibly could be.