Whether or not you agree with the objectives or their methods, you have to acknowledge that they're using the system as it was designed.
They certainly are using the legal system...
I'm as anti-RIAA as the next guy, but I don't support guerilla tactics when alternative legal methods still exist.
This is probably the fifth post of yours that has gone on about 'alternative legal methods', while not actually citing any of them. What are these 'alternative legal methods' you hold in such high esteem, and why do you seem so assured that they will work in this scenario?
When I hear the phrase 'mob rule' in this context, I don't think of hordes of people with torches and pitchforks...I think of hordes of insecure Windows boxes, compromised with the RAT du jour.:)
Civil disobedience is not an excuse to break any law you feel like breaking - it's a tool used to right (or attempt, anyway) a major wrong.
Just curious, but what do you consider a "major wrong", and please explain to us why you believe what the RIAA is doing does not fall into that category.
...the available LEGAL remedies have not yet been exhausted.
As a particular AC stated earlier, the DMCA was passed along despite all of the letter campaigns written against it.
Slashdot will be shut down within a year. Or go subscription only.
Haven't various people been saying this for years now? I remember seeing these sorts of posts when I first started/.ing, and I'm still seeing them today.
Can you imagine? Keep the "How to Talk To Women" e-book on your display as you peruse the club scene. That'll do the trick.
Actually, I'm imagining a modern take on the "Cyranno de Bergerac" story, where a socially inept nerd uses this wearable system (equipped with a cell modem) to communicate with his socially adept friend whilst he tries to hit on chicks. The bar scene might go something like this:
Nerd: I see a hot chick standing alone at the bar. I'm going in.
Friend: Roger. Try to compliment her looks.
Nerd: Roger. (To woman at bar) "Good evening. You have a very nice ass."
Friend: NOOOO! You moron! Abort! ABORT!
(Link suddenly broken as chick at bar breaks VR glasses with right cross.)
Good point....look at StarFleet...they have a specific rule against this sort of thing, and it gets broken about twice an episode.:P
Seriously, though, if we were to discover an alien race that was technologically inferior to us, I entertain no illusions as to how our species would corrupt and exploit them. Why do we assume that alien races technologically superior to us would be equally superior ethically?
As long as we're still pursuing this thought experiment....
Your black hole may have the correct mass now, but tidal forces are still a serious problem. Even if you split up the black hole into several across your ceiling at regular intervals to avoid any lateral tidal forces, the difference in the gravitational forces between your head and your feet would be immense.
How immense, you ask? I don't know. I have a little trouble with the mathmatic, as they say. Perhaps alienmole will step in with the calculator and do my math for me again.:)
(Of course, we're all assuming that alienmole has some sort of method for attaching these things to his basement ceiling...how, I couldn't guess, but the thought experiment is pretty meaningless without postulating that...)
All I meant was that because you're near the Schwarzchild radius, you're very close to the entire mass.
Yes....very close, by definition, as close as you can get and still have the possibility of a return ticket.
(Side note: how would a more or less effective "gravity shield" work near such a strong gravitational field? How would the black hole itself be affected by the proximity of said gravity shield? Interesting side topic.)
As for the monatomic fog, well, I wouldn't be doing this without a good pair of boots and a hard hat!!
BTW, I'm getting rather jealous of your basement....
Why Do they feel it's necessary to sneak in legislation? Surely you're bypassing due debate and democracy? Eventually you're going to get a government almost wholly controlled by these huge corporations with big pockets who just want to protect their own interests.
Perhaps this is why we don't hear any radio transmissions from alien civilizations...by the time we thought to start listening, they've already refined their communications to the point where they're no longer detectable by us.
Sounds like it could be the death knell for SETI...
Oops...my bad:P I cut and pasted the wrong figure, and didn't even proof the post after (that's what you get, I guess...). The figure of 1,080 miles is actually the mean radius of the Moon.:/
The mean radius of Earth is actuallt 3,959 miles....sorry for the confusion.
You're right, that's why I said "adjust masses to achieve appropriate effect outside the Schwarzchild radius".
Honestly don't see how Schwarzchild radius enters into it...tidal forces from such a sharply bounded gravitational field would reduce you to a monatomic fog long before you got that close.
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Well...at least Steve isn't posting anonymously...
Well said.
Someone mod this up.
Cyberterrorist.
Good. Glad to hear it. 'Nuff said.
Whether or not you agree with the objectives or their methods, you have to acknowledge that they're using the system as it was designed.
They certainly are using the legal system...
I'm as anti-RIAA as the next guy, but I don't support guerilla tactics when alternative legal methods still exist.
This is probably the fifth post of yours that has gone on about 'alternative legal methods', while not actually citing any of them. What are these 'alternative legal methods' you hold in such high esteem, and why do you seem so assured that they will work in this scenario?
When I hear the phrase 'mob rule' in this context, I don't think of hordes of people with torches and pitchforks...I think of hordes of insecure Windows boxes, compromised with the RAT du jour. :)
Just curious, but what do you consider a "major wrong", and please explain to us why you believe what the RIAA is doing does not fall into that category.
As a particular AC stated earlier, the DMCA was passed along despite all of the letter campaigns written against it.
The legal remedies look pretty exhausted to me.
Damn Celine Dion....
Have you seen his basement?
Haven't various people been saying this for years now? I remember seeing these sorts of posts when I first started /.ing, and I'm still seeing them today.
Thank you. I thought it was funny, but the /. moderators' sense of humor seems a bit on the anemic side. :/
Thought I had first post
But some jerk beat me to it.
I am filled with shame.
Someone want to mod the parent stupid? Don't read things. Period.
Actually, I'm imagining a modern take on the "Cyranno de Bergerac" story, where a socially inept nerd uses this wearable system (equipped with a cell modem) to communicate with his socially adept friend whilst he tries to hit on chicks. The bar scene might go something like this:
Nerd: I see a hot chick standing alone at the bar. I'm going in.
Friend: Roger. Try to compliment her looks.
Nerd: Roger. (To woman at bar) "Good evening. You have a very nice ass."
Friend: NOOOO! You moron! Abort! ABORT!
(Link suddenly broken as chick at bar breaks VR glasses with right cross.)
Replace "wearables" with any contemporary technology, and someone probably said that 10 years ago.
Seriously, though, if we were to discover an alien race that was technologically inferior to us, I entertain no illusions as to how our species would corrupt and exploit them. Why do we assume that alien races technologically superior to us would be equally superior ethically?
Next time, read the fscking post and try to understand it before you moderate down.
(BTW, feel free to moderate this down as much as you like.)
Idiots.
SF authors have been talking about flying cars for a lot longer than that. Funny thing....they still aren't available at your local dealership.
Until they are, stop caterwauling about Moeller.
Your black hole may have the correct mass now, but tidal forces are still a serious problem. Even if you split up the black hole into several across your ceiling at regular intervals to avoid any lateral tidal forces, the difference in the gravitational forces between your head and your feet would be immense.
How immense, you ask? I don't know. I have a little trouble with the mathmatic, as they say. Perhaps alienmole will step in with the calculator and do my math for me again. :)
(Of course, we're all assuming that alienmole has some sort of method for attaching these things to his basement ceiling...how, I couldn't guess, but the thought experiment is pretty meaningless without postulating that...)
Yes....very close, by definition, as close as you can get and still have the possibility of a return ticket.
(Side note: how would a more or less effective "gravity shield" work near such a strong gravitational field? How would the black hole itself be affected by the proximity of said gravity shield? Interesting side topic.)
As for the monatomic fog, well, I wouldn't be doing this without a good pair of boots and a hard hat!!
BTW, I'm getting rather jealous of your basement....
Sounds like M$'s Mission Statement.
Sounds like it could be the death knell for SETI...
Your personal definition of the word "neat" is positively chilling...such a setup as you proposed would quickly exterminate all human life on Earth.
We know quite a bit about what gravity does, but next to nothing about how it does it.
Oops...my bad :P I cut and pasted the wrong figure, and didn't even proof the post after (that's what you get, I guess...). The figure of 1,080 miles is actually the mean radius of the Moon. :/
The mean radius of Earth is actuallt 3,959 miles....sorry for the confusion.
You're right, that's why I said "adjust masses to achieve appropriate effect outside the Schwarzchild radius".
Honestly don't see how Schwarzchild radius enters into it...tidal forces from such a sharply bounded gravitational field would reduce you to a monatomic fog long before you got that close.