The study subjects were shown photographs of happy, neutral, and sad Caucasians, Asians, and Africans and told to describe the emotions expressed in the images.
a) The study subjects were shown photographs of [expressions the study designers? thought looked like] happy, neutral, and sad Caucasians, Asians, and Africans and told to describe the emotions expressed in the images.
b) Were the subjects of the photos genuinely experiencing the emotions which were [according to the study designers?] being portrayed and if not, does this measure the an ability to read a simulated emotion?
You are arguing with yourself. I'm someone who suggested that person X might have compassion for person Y and not want them to harm themselves through addictive substances. I'm not clear what you think that means other than what it says. Have a good day.
Imagine for a moment, a parasite which causes the host discomfort until supplied with a particular substance. Each moment, the host is given the choice to tolerate the discomfort and starve the parasite out or to feed and strengthen it. As it grows it requires increased feeding or promises increased discomfort.
Non sequitur. Really? Please explain further?
The bacteria in your intestines and on your skin are parasites, and you get severe discomfort if they are removed.
Isn't it the case that these bacteria are in symbiosis with the host?
What benefit does nicotine bring? As you're fond of conclusions supported by research, please provide citations.
I would offer that given your apparent belief in the power of action backed by research and that the natural state is to be nicotine-free (at least I'm unaware of glands which produce nicotine within the human body), the logical course of action wrt to nicotine, in the absence of 'evidence' of its benefits, is 'none at all' - make no efforts to acquire nicotine.
One does not need evidence to stop doing something without benefits.
It is a good to be free from influences to one's daily routine which serve only to reinforce that influence. To be free is good.
Why? Are there any scientific studies corroborating that idea?
Because..... to be free is to provide maximal capacity to adapt to life's challenges and opportunities.
I will leave it to you to search for studies as this appears important to you.
Perhaps you might also look for studies whose conclusions inform add to whether all thought and action must legitimately be preceded by research?
I think you're jumping to conclusions here.
I'd like to hear more on this.
Whenever you find yourself thinking "well, obviously" take two steps back and re-examine the premises, because it may neither be obvious nor true.
Imagine for a moment, a parasite which causes the host discomfort until supplied with a particular substance. Each moment, the host is given the choice to tolerate the discomfort and starve the parasite out or to feed and strengthen it. As it grows it requires increased feeding or promises increased discomfort.
It is a good to be free from influences to one's daily routine which serve only to reinforce that influence. To be free is good.
That the application of an understanding of health concerns to policy-generation is as meaningless to you as my zebra-interpretation of your argument for keeping e-cigs, demonstrates the need for this type of decision to be taken at a level higher than the individual.
Shame on you for encouraging sprawling government:D
If policies were chosen arbitrarily then health concerns fabricated to 'justify' the policy, that would drive the levels of incredulity up to the lofty levels I'm experiencing during this exchange.
Breakfast cereal may also contain live adult zebra. We should therefore ban e-cigs altogether across the whole world due to the danger of e-cigs users being tramped by African wildlife hopped-up on 'formaldehyde, cadmium found in batteries, benzene found in gasoline and the industrial solvent toluene.'
Your post builds strawmen and meta-strawmen. Impressive even by/. standards.
"Ordinary human beings may not want others to harm themselves out of ordinary human compassion." - spin this into a pro-vaping sentiment, I dare you...
It is the path towards complete abstinence. It's a hell of a lot easier to switch to ecigs than to simply go cold turkey on tobacco. And it's also a hell of a lot easier to give up ecigs than to give up tobacco.
ecigs are the best aid yet to completely giving up nicotine.
I can't credit the vape industry highly enough here. Whereas, other less-insightful organisations might be tempted to lead nicotine-addicted smokers along the challenging path towards complete abstinence, the vape industry spares smokers this difficult step.
Or, deity forbid, someone actually cares about the addicted n00bs injuring themselves
No one is asking you for this help.
Yep - this is why addiction is such a pernicious problem. The recipient is quite happy to be left alone in their cycle of addiction - why would they ask for help, it's everything they've ever wanted.
What other potentially dangerous activities do you want to protect us from? Sky diving? Deep sea diving? Walking across streets? Leaving our homes?
Sure, if you feel you're unable to perform those tasks without danger to yourself.
so that an industry can profit?
I really want to ignore this because it's such a transparently bs "evil corp boogeyman" argument - especially when talking about the vape industry. The destruction of the vape industry will just push most vapers to smoking regular cigarettes and just make big tobacco that much wealthier.
It's kind of you to demonstrate, as an afterthought and against your instinct, that my position which is transparently-false-for-everyone-to-see is so. I feel educated now that I too can see that actually, the vape industry isn't a supercharged cocktail of the old tobacco industry shaken not stirred with some apparent health benefits. Everyone loves an underdog and it's great to see this selfless industry take on big tobacco and reduce the harm they do down to the bare minimum of 'formaldehyde, cadmium found in batteries, benzene found in gasoline and the industrial solvent toluene'. By comparison with standard cigarettes, this mix is equivalent to a spinach, banana and flax seed smoothie.
And honestly, if I buy from a non-profit vape store, then do I have your permission to vape in public?
If you wear a filter which protects everyone else from 'formaldehyde, cadmium found in batteries, benzene found in gasoline and the industrial solvent toluene', and if you also find a way to contain any side-effects of the illnesses you develop as a result of exposure to these smoothie ingredients, then, sure, as you've demonstrated such consideration as to ask, by all means kill vape away.
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There's an FA?
a) The study subjects were shown photographs of [expressions the study designers? thought looked like] happy, neutral, and sad Caucasians, Asians, and Africans and told to describe the emotions expressed in the images.
b) Were the subjects of the photos genuinely experiencing the emotions which were [according to the study designers?] being portrayed and if not, does this measure the an ability to read a simulated emotion?
Your tone implies that this is somehow inappropriate :P
Foreigners are trying to brainwash the American people - that's OUR privilege alone!
This should be right at home in the US.
So, noVaping > Vaping > DeathSticks ?
You are arguing with yourself. I'm someone who suggested that person X might have compassion for person Y and not want them to harm themselves through addictive substances. I'm not clear what you think that means other than what it says. Have a good day.
:D
OK; so I took your suggestion and started to re-evaluate my position anew.
I found it interesting to review the many conflicting results of studies around nicotine on wikipedia.
Nope.
I've smoked - I gave up twenty years ago.
Congratulations, by the way - quitting smoking can be a challenge :D
The part where e-cigs contain the addictive substance ?
Blockquote nesting fail. Challenging from a smartphone.
Addiction is akin to parasitic infection.
Imagine for a moment, a parasite which causes the host discomfort until supplied with a particular substance. Each moment, the host is given the choice to tolerate the discomfort and starve the parasite out or to feed and strengthen it. As it grows it requires increased feeding or promises increased discomfort.
It is a good to be free from influences to one's daily routine which serve only to reinforce that influence. To be free is good.
Not sure I'm understanding...
That the application of an understanding of health concerns to policy-generation is as meaningless to you as my zebra-interpretation of your argument for keeping e-cigs, demonstrates the need for this type of decision to be taken at a level higher than the individual.
Shame on you for encouraging sprawling government :D
Zombie Strawmen - The Movie.
Surely health concerns motivate policy.
If policies were chosen arbitrarily then health concerns fabricated to 'justify' the policy, that would drive the levels of incredulity up to the lofty levels I'm experiencing during this exchange.
Breakfast cereal may also contain live adult zebra. We should therefore ban e-cigs altogether across the whole world due to the danger of e-cigs users being tramped by African wildlife hopped-up on 'formaldehyde, cadmium found in batteries, benzene found in gasoline and the industrial solvent toluene.'
Your post builds strawmen and meta-strawmen. Impressive even by /. standards.
"Ordinary human beings may not want others to harm themselves out of ordinary human compassion." - spin this into a pro-vaping sentiment, I dare you...
Death, it's Life 2.0!
Uhh.. giving up nicotine altogether is good for them.
I guess you've been using my non-sequitur generator too?
I can't credit the vape industry highly enough here. Whereas, other less-insightful organisations might be tempted to lead nicotine-addicted smokers along the challenging path towards complete abstinence, the vape industry spares smokers this difficult step.
So, so so so altruistic of them.
Yep - this is why addiction is such a pernicious problem. The recipient is quite happy to be left alone in their cycle of addiction - why would they ask for help, it's everything they've ever wanted.
Sure, if you feel you're unable to perform those tasks without danger to yourself.
It's kind of you to demonstrate, as an afterthought and against your instinct, that my position which is transparently-false-for-everyone-to-see is so.
I feel educated now that I too can see that actually, the vape industry isn't a supercharged cocktail of the old tobacco industry shaken not stirred with some apparent health benefits. Everyone loves an underdog and it's great to see this selfless industry take on big tobacco and reduce the harm they do down to the bare minimum of 'formaldehyde, cadmium found in batteries, benzene found in gasoline and the industrial solvent toluene'. By comparison with standard cigarettes, this mix is equivalent to a spinach, banana and flax seed smoothie.
If you wear a filter which protects everyone else from 'formaldehyde, cadmium found in batteries, benzene found in gasoline and the industrial solvent toluene', and if you also find a way to contain any side-effects of the illnesses you develop as a result of exposure to these smoothie ingredients, then, sure, as you've demonstrated such consideration as to ask, by all means kill vape away.