Seven physicists worked on this, but between them all they used Word and a shareware PDF generator? You would think that at least one of them would have downloaded Open Office a LaTex editor or at least one of them would have had a Mac. I suspect this whole paper is a prank but stranger things have happened.
I'm happy that gnutoo pointed to Bruce Perens' good observations. They show how there's more to this than "Fundamentalism". I'd rather you talk about that than flame me and crap flood Perens to page 60 of this thread. Of course, most people will just read my original post and collapse all of the flamebait that inevitably follows. Then they will see Perens and learn some more. Suck it up.
But when did promoting Linux become one of the OLPC's goals?
This is the wrong question to ask, so it's not surprising that people are a little confused about the answer. This is part of the problem of Open/Free/Linux linguistic ambiguity but it's constantly feed on by people like OLPCNews, an organization run by Intel employees who are working on another project. Eventually, the question is answered:
These are the ones who believe that open source software in general is critical to the mission of education, and that closed source software, especially that of a convicted monopolist corporation like Microsoft, is not only undesirable, but detrimental to that mission.... A less inflammatory term would be preferable, though -- say, "people uncompromisingly committed to the empowerment of educators and students through the freedom which open-source software provides."
It's a little easier to say that secrets and education don't mix. Sharing is good and that children should not be taught the lessons of non free software in an educational setting - that ideas are things to be owned for personal advantage over people kept ignorant by intention.
It's also easy to see that Microsoft and their friends at Intel want nothing more than to kill OLPC. They would like to see OLPC go the way of DRDOS, BeOS, OS/2, SCO Unix and so on and so forth. They have consistently derided the whole concept and stooped to dirty tricks to block sales and use. Evangelism is still war to them. Anything they can do to delay the project is good for them, so they will be ready to provide all sorts of help and direction about how to make XP run on the thing and promise to stop hurting the project but it will all be a lie. OLPC will be fine for them when it's One MicroSoft Laptop Per Child and Sugar is broken and forgotten.
We can further be sure that everyone at OLPC knows all of the above and that the whole issue is just so much FUD and nonsense. OLPC is too busy getting their device to kids to fool with this kind of BS.
The problem with domestic spying is that it will only be used against you. The FBI does not involve itself in cases involving a large amount of loss (either $50,000 or $500,000 I can't remember right now). The other problem is that they won't tell you they are taking the pictures in the first place until they get a search warrant and turn your life upside down. You don't want to be on a watch list and you should be outraged that your government is once again infiltrating and monitoring religious groups.
Multiple cheap cameras are better than fewer fancy cameras. What you want is enough cameras to cover the area well enough to get that picture. Two cheap cameras will cover twice the area one expensive camera does all the time. Pan and tilt is useless unless you want to hire people to sit on it all day and even then you don't get as much coverage as three or four cameras would give you. You want to have one camera with a close up for each door to get face shots and a few wide angle cameras to record all the dirty deeds done. Five or six cameras should be more than enough for the average small business or home.
With Zone Minder you can scrape together a good system for a few hundred bucks. Good quality analog cameras are tiny and can be bought for about $40 each. Both BTTV and V4Linux are stable interfaces with lots of good hardware support. BTTV capture cards are cheap and accept analog inputs that give good enough resolution. All of this can be piped back to an old PC that has five or six PCI slots free. You can add more PCs as the size of your house or business increases. This is equivalent to the professional systems you see in grocery stores but less hackable because you can run it on a good OS like GNU/Linux.
This is yet another database that can be abused, like this one was and the terrorist list is by nature. "Watch" lists which accuse people of an infamous crime and punish them without due process of law are explicitly prohibited by the fifth, sixth and seventh amendments of US Constitution. When you allow such violations, government wastes your tax money to target and harass innocent people who are fighting for your rights.
This, of course, has nothing to do with first posts and moderation.
no matter what we call "one" or "three". These concepts only exits in human minds and must be discovered there but the discovery is not an invention. An invention uses physical properties and sometimes math to create something novel, physical and useful to people.
The pocket version of this watch made by Handspring ten years ago still works and I like it. I alwasy wanted the screen and battery to be bigger not smaller. Changing my watch battery every few years is painful enough that I'd never do it every few months. Getting M$ involved would probably rob the thing of my favorite features like datebook+. Good riddance to a bad idea.
He knows that free software has improved relative to itself and he knows that lots of free software is better than his own software in every kind of way. He would like his customers to think otherwise.
At this point, I'd say he was lying when he first proclaimed free software impossible back in 1976. The group of people he presented that letter to were making things that whipped the commercial world at the time and members moved on to form companies like Apple. The lie is so brazen today that it removes the last shadows of doubt.
These are valid reasons to demand ogg theora support from service providers, not a reason to support people who back software patents and do other things to make imaging hard.
Me: What gives?
AL "APCI" Jones, VP INTEL Perception Management: Hey, thanks for asking! We think that OLPC has gotten along so famously with us that they are going to try their luck with the ever so cooperative people at Microsoft.
ME: Really? That's amazing. I'm surprised they want to talk to you at all after you did everything possible to derail them ACPI Jones: Sure, we write their news for them - they love us.
ME: Tell me more about Fundamentalists.
ACPI Jones: That's easy, Developers, Developers, Developers!
ME: That's about all I can take, thanks for your time.
ACPI Jones: I'll take more of your time tomorrow, it's my job.
ME: No thanks.
Back to reality and quoting the letter:
Because
of public attention, anything we say will be quoted out of context. We
can only speak with our actions and those are only one: a reliable and
ubiquitous Sugar.
Getting away from reality with the letter:
the best educational tool is constructionism and
the best software development method is Open Source. In some cases those
are best achieved like the Trojan Horse, versus direct confrontation or
isolating ourselves with perfection.
That and other things in the letter make it look like he thinks he will be able to run Sugar on more than the OLPC. This ignores the experience of other companies who thought they could get along and work with Microsoft and not be "isolated" and an alternate GUI will surely be seen as confrontational in Redmond. The more OLPC tries to interact with the non free software community, the more chances OLPC will give that community to kill them.
After all, we know congress and the presidency are both crammed with child molesters and other predators. Will someone please think of the children and Xray those bastards daily?
Nothing is new or dishonest here. I promised to make sock puppets back in 2004 and have recently gloated in my journal. It throws the trolls off balance and keeps them from being able to silence me. They don't know where my accounts are or who I am. My supposed sockpuppets are generally first posters who advocate free software. These are well received, as all free software advocacy should be, until these nutballs start hitting them with saved up mod points the same way they wiped out the twitter account. My opinions continue to be well received outside of these people's notice. That opinion is what interests me, not credit for it so I'll keep making up accounts when it suits me. The have made a lot of noise about it lately. It makes them angry that they can't really control the conversation here and they have always made a lot of noise. The "OMG, it's Twitter" has become a new kind of crap flood.
The effort attributed to me is flattering and I can claim some success. I don't have the energy or time to do as much as the trolls credit me with but I have enjoyed hijacking their first posts and countering their bullshit. What is obvious is that there's a lot of moderation gaming and other attempts to disrupt and control conversation on Slashdot and at other pubic forums. I can't keep them from crap flooding real conversation into oblivion but I can derail a lot of the more blatant lies and offensive comments. That has been fun. Eat it PR losers, your bosses should fire you all.
The worst thing to do to greedy RIAA asshats is to share really free music. There's more high quality music at that one site than you can listen to over the next 100 years.
One of the variants of the parable has the glazier paying people to break windows in the first place. Those are more accurate analogies to the non free software world. NDAs for simple things like text formats are a form of vandalism, especially when they are backed up by hardware NDAs, software patents and other nonsense. The whole market is still suffering from mistakes made back in the 1980s and it's a good thing to see the mistake coming to an end. Every dollar saved by free software is one that won't be used to screw you later.
He's been doing the same thing for 13 years before this outrage convinced him to retire. The man's reputation and belief in fair process are as clear as the abuse he relates. The story can non be told any other way.
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Vendors like to have choices too. This is good news.
they would fix it.
Seven physicists worked on this, but between them all they used Word and a shareware PDF generator? You would think that at least one of them would have downloaded Open Office a LaTex editor or at least one of them would have had a Mac. I suspect this whole paper is a prank but stranger things have happened.
I'm happy that gnutoo pointed to Bruce Perens' good observations. They show how there's more to this than "Fundamentalism". I'd rather you talk about that than flame me and crap flood Perens to page 60 of this thread. Of course, most people will just read my original post and collapse all of the flamebait that inevitably follows. Then they will see Perens and learn some more. Suck it up.
Very cool post, thanks.
The article asks:
This is the wrong question to ask, so it's not surprising that people are a little confused about the answer. This is part of the problem of Open/Free/Linux linguistic ambiguity but it's constantly feed on by people like OLPCNews, an organization run by Intel employees who are working on another project. Eventually, the question is answered:
It's a little easier to say that secrets and education don't mix. Sharing is good and that children should not be taught the lessons of non free software in an educational setting - that ideas are things to be owned for personal advantage over people kept ignorant by intention.
It's also easy to see that Microsoft and their friends at Intel want nothing more than to kill OLPC. They would like to see OLPC go the way of DRDOS, BeOS, OS/2, SCO Unix and so on and so forth. They have consistently derided the whole concept and stooped to dirty tricks to block sales and use. Evangelism is still war to them. Anything they can do to delay the project is good for them, so they will be ready to provide all sorts of help and direction about how to make XP run on the thing and promise to stop hurting the project but it will all be a lie. OLPC will be fine for them when it's One MicroSoft Laptop Per Child and Sugar is broken and forgotten.
We can further be sure that everyone at OLPC knows all of the above and that the whole issue is just so much FUD and nonsense. OLPC is too busy getting their device to kids to fool with this kind of BS.
The problem with domestic spying is that it will only be used against you. The FBI does not involve itself in cases involving a large amount of loss (either $50,000 or $500,000 I can't remember right now). The other problem is that they won't tell you they are taking the pictures in the first place until they get a search warrant and turn your life upside down. You don't want to be on a watch list and you should be outraged that your government is once again infiltrating and monitoring religious groups.
Multiple cheap cameras are better than fewer fancy cameras. What you want is enough cameras to cover the area well enough to get that picture. Two cheap cameras will cover twice the area one expensive camera does all the time. Pan and tilt is useless unless you want to hire people to sit on it all day and even then you don't get as much coverage as three or four cameras would give you. You want to have one camera with a close up for each door to get face shots and a few wide angle cameras to record all the dirty deeds done. Five or six cameras should be more than enough for the average small business or home.
With Zone Minder you can scrape together a good system for a few hundred bucks. Good quality analog cameras are tiny and can be bought for about $40 each. Both BTTV and V4Linux are stable interfaces with lots of good hardware support. BTTV capture cards are cheap and accept analog inputs that give good enough resolution. All of this can be piped back to an old PC that has five or six PCI slots free. You can add more PCs as the size of your house or business increases. This is equivalent to the professional systems you see in grocery stores but less hackable because you can run it on a good OS like GNU/Linux.
This is yet another database that can be abused, like this one was and the terrorist list is by nature. "Watch" lists which accuse people of an infamous crime and punish them without due process of law are explicitly prohibited by the fifth, sixth and seventh amendments of US Constitution. When you allow such violations, government wastes your tax money to target and harass innocent people who are fighting for your rights.
This, of course, has nothing to do with first posts and moderation.
no matter what we call "one" or "three". These concepts only exits in human minds and must be discovered there but the discovery is not an invention. An invention uses physical properties and sometimes math to create something novel, physical and useful to people.
Didn't you know?
The pocket version of this watch made by Handspring ten years ago still works and I like it. I alwasy wanted the screen and battery to be bigger not smaller. Changing my watch battery every few years is painful enough that I'd never do it every few months. Getting M$ involved would probably rob the thing of my favorite features like datebook+. Good riddance to a bad idea.
He knows that free software has improved relative to itself and he knows that lots of free software is better than his own software in every kind of way. He would like his customers to think otherwise.
At this point, I'd say he was lying when he first proclaimed free software impossible back in 1976. The group of people he presented that letter to were making things that whipped the commercial world at the time and members moved on to form companies like Apple. The lie is so brazen today that it removes the last shadows of doubt.
These are valid reasons to demand ogg theora support from service providers, not a reason to support people who back software patents and do other things to make imaging hard.
Is this the same Intel friendly "news" site previously discussed by Slashdot? Now for a parody interview with an Intel representative about what they really think is going on:
Me: What gives?
AL "APCI" Jones, VP INTEL Perception Management: Hey, thanks for asking! We think that OLPC has gotten along so famously with us that they are going to try their luck with the ever so cooperative people at Microsoft.
ME: Really? That's amazing. I'm surprised they want to talk to you at all after you did everything possible to derail them
ACPI Jones: Sure, we write their news for them - they love us.
ME: Tell me more about Fundamentalists.
ACPI Jones: That's easy, Developers, Developers, Developers!
ME: That's about all I can take, thanks for your time.
ACPI Jones: I'll take more of your time tomorrow, it's my job.
ME: No thanks.
Back to reality and quoting the letter:
Getting away from reality with the letter:
the best educational tool is constructionism and the best software development method is Open Source. In some cases those are best achieved like the Trojan Horse, versus direct confrontation or isolating ourselves with perfection.That and other things in the letter make it look like he thinks he will be able to run Sugar on more than the OLPC. This ignores the experience of other companies who thought they could get along and work with Microsoft and not be "isolated" and an alternate GUI will surely be seen as confrontational in Redmond. The more OLPC tries to interact with the non free software community, the more chances OLPC will give that community to kill them.
After all, we know congress and the presidency are both crammed with child molesters and other predators. Will someone please think of the children and Xray those bastards daily?
Nothing is new or dishonest here. I promised to make sock puppets back in 2004 and have recently gloated in my journal. It throws the trolls off balance and keeps them from being able to silence me. They don't know where my accounts are or who I am. My supposed sockpuppets are generally first posters who advocate free software. These are well received, as all free software advocacy should be, until these nutballs start hitting them with saved up mod points the same way they wiped out the twitter account. My opinions continue to be well received outside of these people's notice. That opinion is what interests me, not credit for it so I'll keep making up accounts when it suits me. The have made a lot of noise about it lately. It makes them angry that they can't really control the conversation here and they have always made a lot of noise. The "OMG, it's Twitter" has become a new kind of crap flood.
The effort attributed to me is flattering and I can claim some success. I don't have the energy or time to do as much as the trolls credit me with but I have enjoyed hijacking their first posts and countering their bullshit. What is obvious is that there's a lot of moderation gaming and other attempts to disrupt and control conversation on Slashdot and at other pubic forums. I can't keep them from crap flooding real conversation into oblivion but I can derail a lot of the more blatant lies and offensive comments. That has been fun. Eat it PR losers, your bosses should fire you all.
The worst thing to do to greedy RIAA asshats is to share really free music. There's more high quality music at that one site than you can listen to over the next 100 years.
How much money are they losing on this idiocy?
I like this one better. The old one is not so shocking anymore.
if my livelyhood depends on fixing problems with my code, what incentive do I have to ship it bug-free to begin with?
In the free software world? If you ship a code that's malicious or intentionally defective someone else will fix it and leave you out in the cold.
In the non free software world? None at all. Every few years you will sell the same crap with a new GUI. M$ has proved this over the last 20 years.
The poor stability of Windows points to a more accurate version of the broken window parable, where the glazier is also the vandal.
One of the variants of the parable has the glazier paying people to break windows in the first place. Those are more accurate analogies to the non free software world. NDAs for simple things like text formats are a form of vandalism, especially when they are backed up by hardware NDAs, software patents and other nonsense. The whole market is still suffering from mistakes made back in the 1980s and it's a good thing to see the mistake coming to an end. Every dollar saved by free software is one that won't be used to screw you later.
He's been doing the same thing for 13 years before this outrage convinced him to retire. The man's reputation and belief in fair process are as clear as the abuse he relates. The story can non be told any other way.
No one else's gaming console is burning houses down. You would not want to say Xbox users are especially stupid, would you?