Tiger Direct dumped my 650MHz Athalon and a motherboard for $200. Weeee! It runs Red Hat OK for me. Does CFD calcs at least 3 times faster than my 180 Media GX board. Mother board can be upped to 1GHz one day. I might just do that if the price is right, but I get the feeling I'll be better off just building a new machine when the time comes.
Of course, it didn't help when I kept telling
them that he [Austin Powers] was a popular sex symbol in the US and considered the
ideal man...
It might not have helped you, but it made my day. The man who cracks mirrors with his bad teeth, the ideal man? The joke is complete! I just about laughed my head off, and I'll be lucky if I don't fall out of my chair. Say it ain't so! You don't really believe that, do you?
Look out Mike Myers! the men and women of the world have fallen in love with Austin Powers!
It depends on where you live. If your town only alows one cable to your house, this sucks.
Can anyone tell my why monopolies are granted for such trivial and ubobtrusive wires like this? It's not like you need much of the public right of way and massive hardware investments to make these networks. I'm told Chicago has granted six companies access to their right of ways. It looks like this is anything but a natural monopoly.
We must not allow broadband to end up like broadcast TV and radio. There is no scarcity of public resources to consider, and no reason to keep anyone from pubishing in a pull media. As this is the future of publishing in general we need to be very careful about who controls it.
I hate to flame, but that site was really agrivating. It took forever to load up all their flashing adverts, including a porn site like extra bubble, "support our advertisers", with, I shit you not, a picture of a TV broadcasting a pager! ARRRRRG! All of that may have been worth while if the information displayed was clear, but it was not. What exactly was that price comarision? A typical box price? What on earth did they use to compare the performance? Sorry, but I got tired of looking through all of that flashing junk.
Sharky's extreem never looked better. Ars Technica, you are beautiful. Pricewatch, we love you.
It is absolutely *unbelievable* the change in perspective a kid gives you. I would die or kill for Ian. When I see movies with sick or dying kids I have to turn away. The thought of anything happening to him makes my heart sink.
It's funny but some of us feel that way about children and adults even animals before we have children. More people should feel this way. What's wrong with our culture?
First they created them, then they killed them. Those 15 embrios did not fall out of the sky like so many bird droppings.
Today proper tissue type, tomorow correct eye color. You can justify creating and destroying 15 people to get one with blue eyes, right? Embrios want to grow, sperms, eggs, and chunks of my tounge do not.
I'm glad people are doing this, and hope the stem cell and clone research move along quickly. It gets around the goulish business of making human embrios for parts.
That was at least five embrios that were killed. Naturaly, the chance of having a child with a disease was 1/4. The achieved result, if the cure really works is 2/7, a little better. If the cure fails, well.
Did that picture of the family at a Carnival disturb anyone else? There's something queer about making money of this family's medical problems. Sure, it's news but the drift of news towards entertainment is not healthy.
I'm amazed by the glaring subtlety of Denise Grady's aricle. Her opinions were pushed into this by choice of goulish details. The ethical conundrum of conceiving six children only to birth one was thrown in our teeth against the parent's objection to the one in four chance of their next naturaly concieved child having a one in four chance of a fatal disease. The little girl's statement at the end was especially chilling, "My brother's going to give me some of his blood to make me feel better." Were these details and that carnival photo put in there to encourage serious debate or to titilate?
You'll have to just take a smoke break. New security protocol only alows IT to touch the mainfr^H^H^H^H^H PC's in the closet. If central resources does not have your floppy, I'm afraid that application is not supported. Thank You.
How would a VAR adopting open source software where apropriate on a Sun hurt the VARs bottom line or make Sun look like a box pusher? If some open source project works better than Sun's software VAR's should know about it so that they can continue providing the best solutions. Is'nt that why people trust Sun to begin with? The VAR knows what he's doing and can get support when he does not. That and Sun's great hardware are hard to beat. The price of those solutions will remain the same as long as demand is there.
On the other hand, Sun might just get burried if it tries to ignore the Open Source movement.
Why is it that government is stuck on MS software? Why is it that wizzbang Al Gore has not created standard document, spreadsheet and database structures for the federal government instead of letting MS "standardize" everything for them? This is not rocket science. It's bad enough that private industry has been screwed around with changing file formats and all the rest of the upgrade treadmill, but the whole country? Uncle Sam has the size to demand what it wants.
Judging based on experience is not prejudice, it's reason. We all know that Charlie Brown is going to fall on his but because that little girl is going to pull the ball out.
Despite that, I have not seen too many trolly articles here. The complaints I've seen have been reasonable, just as Ars Technica was a relatively reasonable review. People thinking about this OS should know about those faults. I've also seen some insiteful review of the Ars Technica article as well.
If anything Apple is getting a free ride here. People abuse MS all the time for things that Apple is doing. This is a "buggy" OS that takes up 800MB that hides important concepts from it's users. Some 200MB of that install are trailers for movies! Why should the install not tell you what a root account is? It's a simple but very important concept that's easy to relate. Granted, all of these things are better than what MS offers (920 MB install with very poor security and a checkbox to hide the entire contents of a hard drive, hides other things anyway, and costs much much more). Developments in free software are more interesting than this.
There is a little much coverage of this. Apple stuff has only tangential interest to most people who read this site. It's commodity hardware, and greater success will give us more toys to play with. Their use of BSD is interesting, and we hope that more gets ported back out as free. There seems to be more coverage of this than say Sun.
But really it would be much more impressive if some small company would develop something like this without all of the Apple restrictions. Imagine a small company putting togeter a nice Motorola computer ala IBM, so that duplication would be encouraged and profitable. Imagine also that they used all free ware, so that anyone could develop software for it. Further imagine that they had enough marketing muscle to get the thing noticed and it could be mass produced and cheap. If Apple would form a company to do this, and if they alowed this company to run it's existing codebase, we would indeed be impressed with Apple.
As it is, shrug.
How was it that I missed this post (#312)? I'm not too worried about it because you missed my point entirely.
I have
developed portable code in VC that compiles with GCC and such
compilers (even Amiga ones like SAS/C) without any difficulty at all.
Your claim VC makes code Windows only and Microsoft specific is
garbage.
Congratulations, you beat up VC's defaults! It's can write code that compiles with GCC under notepad easier than I can under Visual Studio. By devault Visual C++ TM, Wizards TM you through creating a MFC piece of junk that might be able to run under WindBlows. If you spend a few hours working with it's poor interface you can make it work like a normal editor. I have used that piece of crap too.
My points were that MFC is not prortable and Visual studio is a pain to use.
Evidence? no more than the informal observation that they smoke to begin with. Other informal observations are slower than normal response times, higher than average tool breakage, and the eventual failure of the company as the owner stuck all of the profits up his nose. It was not a fun place to work. In general, they were more tollerent of bad working conditions and less likely to use safety equipment than employees at other places I have worked where smoking was not as widespread. In any case, I can imagine that people who do not intoxicate themselves impeed themselves less.
I've never seen anyone do better with it! All it's ever done for my friends is slow them down.
technocrat.net is nice but their moderation is not as fun as Slashdot. The stories are more technical if less often submitted.
techmag.org is fun, if you want slashdot in French. They post some fine stories, but don't have many posters.
By the way, what's up with mod points? I got a box that says "No Score +1 Bonus". While it's flattering and I do try, I hardly think everything I say is "informative." Oh well.
Ahhhhh! My favorite word processor doomed by MS to suck worse than Word then die. Get your copies of Word Perfect 8, and your liscence before this Linux native word processor starts to cost you more than Word.
Noooo! Noooo! It's just too sad, I'll be forced to VI and ispell, Latex and I don't know what. Man the GNOME word processor source, batten the hatches, the Borg has landed.
Average Distro cost from Linuxcentral.com, etc is $4.00 plus shipping. Download is the cost of connection and your time. CD is so much easier.
Cost of the six MS CD's that do the same thing, until you try to upgrade MS Explorer, Oh hundreds of dollars. OS $100, web server "pro edition" you tell me, Visual Studio who cares, spreadsheet editors, mail servers, DNS.... Way too much money. The days you spend installing it will never be recovered. Documentation, source, not available ever. How many bugs will you find? Tell me when you get to the bottom of your wallet. I had far fewer problems with Red Hat 6.0 and Debian 2.2 than I've ever had with any of MS's pathetic bloatware BSoD producer. Whip! get back on that upgrade treadmill.
You could get a mac or even a sun.
Where are all of these MicroTurds comming from? Has something shifted in the ORedmond Cloud, sending a storm of them down on our heads? What have we done to deserve such posts? Surely the low sales of Win2k were not intedned to disturb the rest of the computing universe?
Why am I responding to such a troll? Because I'm supposed to be doing my homework and it is boring!
Bad shit is a practical concern. It's not like any of it is good, but exchanging money for something that's illegal is just asking for trouble. No law equals no accountability. Trust is naive. This is a risk you seem willing to take, but it's not one you should expect others to put up with. It's strange that you put your legal safety above your health (though going to jail and working crapy jobs for the rest of your life has got to be bad for your health).
No one is a good judge of their own mental condition. People with lead poisoning think they are just fine and seek no help.
I've worked in places where people smoked that crap. They mostly did it at home, but it did make a difference at work. It also sucked up time they could have put to useful things and helped keep them down.
You know, I always thought my cellmates were just full of shit when they told me stuff like that. "Yeh brah, all them politicians are cokeheads. What else would they be doing it for?" Then Bill Clinton got on MTV and encouraged all the kids to smoke dope. Now I know it's true.
Most intelligent posters are avoiding anther damn drug atricle. Most people here are of three varieties:
Braggers, self deluders, and other lusers.
People wondering where all this fucked up drug talk is coming from.
People telling us cautionary tales. Dead friends, failures, and all the other stuff that come with drug use.
This is the first post I've seen today that addresses something other than "People Like Me", indolently typing away on their fancy machines deep inside their high tech cocoons.
That's admirable, but I'm going to dispute your simplistic analysis. The discrepency as well as mobility between the classes is not as great as you might think it is. There are also practical reasons for society to behave the way it does.
Equivalent crimes meet equvalent enforcement. At least in the great state of LA, you are going to jail if you get caught by law enforcement. Fancy lawyers and family ties can help, but there's a limit. Push your luck and you'll pay the price.
Wealtheir people are more likely to be caught, but not by law enforcement. You can expect piss tests etc, unless you are a Kenedy or something. Being caught by a company that has invested time in training you and would rather fix you, is always going to be a different experience than a drug raid. Is this fair? Well, it might be.
Proffesionals constitute less of a threat than those at the bottom of the ladder. Until your habits ruin you, you are less likely to steal things at gunpoint. Sure, you are dangerous behind the wheel of a vehicle, but the last time I looked the police enjoyed pulling over that fance sports car more than they enjoyed pulling over the late 80s model crack mobile. Everyone that uses illegal drugs has the potential to harm their neighbors, but wealthier people are generally weaker and more removed.
Society also has more to loose when one of it's highly trained members fails. Think about it. It's not just that society has lavished resources on them to aquire that training, but they have proved both willing and capable of it. This is one of the reasons companies drug test their employees. A company that cares will test and attempt to rehabilitate members that would be cheaper to replace.
Still, the average proffesional is easy to ruin. Most have debts from their education. If they are lucky, they are married and have kids and a house to support. Even high paid proffesionals show an astounding inability to live within their means. A few months without a paycheck is all it takes to wipe out most. Commit a felony, and you will wash dishes or have to start your own business. No one wants to do business with a felon.
Is all of this fair? No, but it's not as bad as you make it out.
Companies have every right to terminate employees who break the law. No one has to hire you for anything, and there are some practical issues you might not be considering from the companie's perspective. There are two possible sources for your little activity. Either you buy or you grow. Attidude issues asside, it's hard to imagine a company wanting you.
I don't want you as an employee if you buy. Let's face it, you just have no idea what you are really buying till you use it. Despite your protests, I have no way to know if you are going to be brain dead, paranoid or psychotic the next time you come to work.
If you are growing your own, I've got no idea when you are going to be hauled off to jail. At least you did not hurt anyone at my firm, but now I have to go find another employee.
These are practical concerns, and good reasons to refuse to hire people who use drugs.
Now let's look at periodic on the job testing. The same arguments above apply, but now the company has invested some time in you. It may be worth the companies time and money to make you stop rather than fire you. Your performance will degrade, it's only a mater of time. Everyone will be better off if you can be "fixed".
Have you got a problem or not? Were you so special that you could just use that crap you bought or did you crash and burn? How often do you sensibly go out? Sure, you're in control.
You realize that you have no idea what your "friend" is selling you, regardless of rumor, reputation or even web site. That little package does not exactly come with a manufacturer's address or a chemical assay. It's so easy to get burnt. How do you know what that white powder is this time? Think you're not going to get adicted to heroine? Right, your different, better, no, not me. It's just a harmless experiment. Lots of people do it. It's fun. Sure.
You have a problem if you trust someone like that. You have a problem if you have a recuring need for drugs. On a lark, once in a while, once a month, once a week, once a day, when I feel like it asshole. That's the way it goes. Thinking otherwise is delusional.
I've got three dead friends who thought they were special. None of them had a problem either. My dad has seen scores of people like this. Don't advocate drugs around me, I've heard it all before.
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Tiger Direct dumped my 650MHz Athalon and a motherboard for $200. Weeee! It runs Red Hat OK for me. Does CFD calcs at least 3 times faster than my 180 Media GX board. Mother board can be upped to 1GHz one day. I might just do that if the price is right, but I get the feeling I'll be better off just building a new machine when the time comes.
It might not have helped you, but it made my day. The man who cracks mirrors with his bad teeth, the ideal man? The joke is complete! I just about laughed my head off, and I'll be lucky if I don't fall out of my chair. Say it ain't so! You don't really believe that, do you?
Look out Mike Myers! the men and women of the world have fallen in love with Austin Powers!
Can anyone tell my why monopolies are granted for such trivial and ubobtrusive wires like this? It's not like you need much of the public right of way and massive hardware investments to make these networks. I'm told Chicago has granted six companies access to their right of ways. It looks like this is anything but a natural monopoly.
We must not allow broadband to end up like broadcast TV and radio. There is no scarcity of public resources to consider, and no reason to keep anyone from pubishing in a pull media. As this is the future of publishing in general we need to be very careful about who controls it.
Sharky's extreem never looked better. Ars Technica, you are beautiful. Pricewatch, we love you.
Poster recomends ignoring this link.
It's funny but some of us feel that way about children and adults even animals before we have children. More people should feel this way. What's wrong with our culture?
Today proper tissue type, tomorow correct eye color. You can justify creating and destroying 15 people to get one with blue eyes, right? Embrios want to grow, sperms, eggs, and chunks of my tounge do not.
I'm glad people are doing this, and hope the stem cell and clone research move along quickly. It gets around the goulish business of making human embrios for parts.
It's all goulish to me.
I'm amazed by the glaring subtlety of Denise Grady's aricle. Her opinions were pushed into this by choice of goulish details. The ethical conundrum of conceiving six children only to birth one was thrown in our teeth against the parent's objection to the one in four chance of their next naturaly concieved child having a one in four chance of a fatal disease. The little girl's statement at the end was especially chilling, "My brother's going to give me some of his blood to make me feel better." Were these details and that carnival photo put in there to encourage serious debate or to titilate?
You'll have to just take a smoke break. New security protocol only alows IT to touch the mainfr^H^H^H^H^H PC's in the closet. If central resources does not have your floppy, I'm afraid that application is not supported. Thank You.
On the other hand, Sun might just get burried if it tries to ignore the Open Source movement.
3D adds up fast, but static displays should not be that slow. If IDE cables can get 100MB/s... It's not like a 3D CFD problem, it's just a display.
One day, we will quake to this.
Why is it that government is stuck on MS software? Why is it that wizzbang Al Gore has not created standard document, spreadsheet and database structures for the federal government instead of letting MS "standardize" everything for them? This is not rocket science. It's bad enough that private industry has been screwed around with changing file formats and all the rest of the upgrade treadmill, but the whole country? Uncle Sam has the size to demand what it wants.
Despite that, I have not seen too many trolly articles here. The complaints I've seen have been reasonable, just as Ars Technica was a relatively reasonable review. People thinking about this OS should know about those faults. I've also seen some insiteful review of the Ars Technica article as well.
If anything Apple is getting a free ride here. People abuse MS all the time for things that Apple is doing. This is a "buggy" OS that takes up 800MB that hides important concepts from it's users. Some 200MB of that install are trailers for movies! Why should the install not tell you what a root account is? It's a simple but very important concept that's easy to relate. Granted, all of these things are better than what MS offers (920 MB install with very poor security and a checkbox to hide the entire contents of a hard drive, hides other things anyway, and costs much much more). Developments in free software are more interesting than this.
There is a little much coverage of this. Apple stuff has only tangential interest to most people who read this site. It's commodity hardware, and greater success will give us more toys to play with. Their use of BSD is interesting, and we hope that more gets ported back out as free. There seems to be more coverage of this than say Sun.
But really it would be much more impressive if some small company would develop something like this without all of the Apple restrictions. Imagine a small company putting togeter a nice Motorola computer ala IBM, so that duplication would be encouraged and profitable. Imagine also that they used all free ware, so that anyone could develop software for it. Further imagine that they had enough marketing muscle to get the thing noticed and it could be mass produced and cheap. If Apple would form a company to do this, and if they alowed this company to run it's existing codebase, we would indeed be impressed with Apple. As it is, shrug.
Poster does not hate Apple.
I have developed portable code in VC that compiles with GCC and such compilers (even Amiga ones like SAS/C) without any difficulty at all. Your claim VC makes code Windows only and Microsoft specific is garbage.
Congratulations, you beat up VC's defaults! It's can write code that compiles with GCC under notepad easier than I can under Visual Studio. By devault Visual C++ TM, Wizards TM you through creating a MFC piece of junk that might be able to run under WindBlows. If you spend a few hours working with it's poor interface you can make it work like a normal editor. I have used that piece of crap too.
My points were that MFC is not prortable and Visual studio is a pain to use.
I've never seen anyone do better with it! All it's ever done for my friends is slow them down.
techmag.org is fun, if you want slashdot in French. They post some fine stories, but don't have many posters.
By the way, what's up with mod points? I got a box that says "No Score +1 Bonus". While it's flattering and I do try, I hardly think everything I say is "informative." Oh well.
Noooo! Noooo! It's just too sad, I'll be forced to VI and ispell, Latex and I don't know what. Man the GNOME word processor source, batten the hatches, the Borg has landed.
Cost of the six MS CD's that do the same thing, until you try to upgrade MS Explorer, Oh hundreds of dollars. OS $100, web server "pro edition" you tell me, Visual Studio who cares, spreadsheet editors, mail servers, DNS.... Way too much money. The days you spend installing it will never be recovered. Documentation, source, not available ever. How many bugs will you find? Tell me when you get to the bottom of your wallet. I had far fewer problems with Red Hat 6.0 and Debian 2.2 than I've ever had with any of MS's pathetic bloatware BSoD producer. Whip! get back on that upgrade treadmill.
You could get a mac or even a sun.
Where are all of these MicroTurds comming from? Has something shifted in the ORedmond Cloud, sending a storm of them down on our heads? What have we done to deserve such posts? Surely the low sales of Win2k were not intedned to disturb the rest of the computing universe?
Why am I responding to such a troll? Because I'm supposed to be doing my homework and it is boring!
No one is a good judge of their own mental condition. People with lead poisoning think they are just fine and seek no help.
I've worked in places where people smoked that crap. They mostly did it at home, but it did make a difference at work. It also sucked up time they could have put to useful things and helped keep them down.
GWB if he did it, he's ashamed.
BC, proud shit head.
Braggers, self deluders, and other lusers.
People wondering where all this fucked up drug talk is coming from.
People telling us cautionary tales. Dead friends, failures, and all the other stuff that come with drug use.
This is the first post I've seen today that addresses something other than "People Like Me", indolently typing away on their fancy machines deep inside their high tech cocoons.
That's admirable, but I'm going to dispute your simplistic analysis. The discrepency as well as mobility between the classes is not as great as you might think it is. There are also practical reasons for society to behave the way it does.
Equivalent crimes meet equvalent enforcement. At least in the great state of LA, you are going to jail if you get caught by law enforcement. Fancy lawyers and family ties can help, but there's a limit. Push your luck and you'll pay the price.
Wealtheir people are more likely to be caught, but not by law enforcement. You can expect piss tests etc, unless you are a Kenedy or something. Being caught by a company that has invested time in training you and would rather fix you, is always going to be a different experience than a drug raid. Is this fair? Well, it might be.
Proffesionals constitute less of a threat than those at the bottom of the ladder. Until your habits ruin you, you are less likely to steal things at gunpoint. Sure, you are dangerous behind the wheel of a vehicle, but the last time I looked the police enjoyed pulling over that fance sports car more than they enjoyed pulling over the late 80s model crack mobile. Everyone that uses illegal drugs has the potential to harm their neighbors, but wealthier people are generally weaker and more removed.
Society also has more to loose when one of it's highly trained members fails. Think about it. It's not just that society has lavished resources on them to aquire that training, but they have proved both willing and capable of it. This is one of the reasons companies drug test their employees. A company that cares will test and attempt to rehabilitate members that would be cheaper to replace.
Still, the average proffesional is easy to ruin. Most have debts from their education. If they are lucky, they are married and have kids and a house to support. Even high paid proffesionals show an astounding inability to live within their means. A few months without a paycheck is all it takes to wipe out most. Commit a felony, and you will wash dishes or have to start your own business. No one wants to do business with a felon.
Is all of this fair? No, but it's not as bad as you make it out.
I don't want you as an employee if you buy. Let's face it, you just have no idea what you are really buying till you use it. Despite your protests, I have no way to know if you are going to be brain dead, paranoid or psychotic the next time you come to work.
If you are growing your own, I've got no idea when you are going to be hauled off to jail. At least you did not hurt anyone at my firm, but now I have to go find another employee.
These are practical concerns, and good reasons to refuse to hire people who use drugs.
Now let's look at periodic on the job testing. The same arguments above apply, but now the company has invested some time in you. It may be worth the companies time and money to make you stop rather than fire you. Your performance will degrade, it's only a mater of time. Everyone will be better off if you can be "fixed".
Have you got a problem or not? Were you so special that you could just use that crap you bought or did you crash and burn? How often do you sensibly go out? Sure, you're in control.
You have a problem if you trust someone like that. You have a problem if you have a recuring need for drugs. On a lark, once in a while, once a month, once a week, once a day, when I feel like it asshole. That's the way it goes. Thinking otherwise is delusional.
I've got three dead friends who thought they were special. None of them had a problem either. My dad has seen scores of people like this. Don't advocate drugs around me, I've heard it all before.