Speaking of which, does anyone see the release of StarOffice as GPL as anything other than an attempt by Sun to kill off Microsoft's cash cow, Office?
I'd rather think that they want to end the MS dominance on document standards. No one else has been able to get around all of the coppies of Office that MS dumped on every new computer that got sold with that forced MS OS. By putting this out as free they can rest assured that someone will be able to match every little twist and turn MS tries to put into their nasty specs. This way StarOffice users can follow MS faster than MS Office users! What a burn. More than that, with enough users reasonable and open document standards can be implimented to provide not just a compatible product but a better product. The hold will be broken. No commercial software has been able to compete, and none can do what this will.
Why is this a survival move? It will keep MS's dirty hands out of the server market that Sun serves so well. You don't need that Win2k server when your workers can communicate with the rest of the world without it. Sun has learned that market forces and dumping can be more important than superior technology. If they sat back, they would have watched MS leverage their desktop hold. They've gone to the root cause and faught back better.
MS's other cash cow, OS sales is down too. This is in part due to PC sales slow downs, but it might also have something to do with "naked PC's" getting a better OS stuck on them.
If this product is even close to stable, I can't imagine recomending MS to any student. As the students go, so goes the future. Sun will keep it's place in it.
BAH. Give me an OSS CodeInsight, give me a small portable (across apps) object model (small -- CORBA is not small), give me ERWin and Rational Rose. At the OS level, how about a kernel debugger (for device drivers), and async I/O.
Gimmie, Gimmmie, Gimmie. It's all take and no give, huh? Want something? Make it, nothing is hidden here. All con artists take advantage of their victim's greed, and no con works without it.
Borland. I've got a soft spot in my heart for them, but MS has them by the balls. Now go pay your MS tax.
You know the fable about the fox and the cat? The fox boasts about how many tricks he has to escape the hunters and the cat just runs up the tree. The fox gets eaten while making up it's mind while the cat watches from the tree. It's a nice story about how it's better to have one trick that works rather than many that don't.
In this case, opposite applies. It's better to be able to choose between many systems that work, than it is to work with one system you can't ever fix.
Con artists always expoit the greed of their victims. Pay up sucker!
In the professional TM, windows TM, gimme all your money TM, world you've got, Visual Studio, and Borland's OWL and Wattcom's, I mean Sybase's Power Station... wait a minute! You've only got Visual Studio when MS gets finished breaking everyone else.
But I don't know what I'm talking about do I? Think of all the great choices you get within Visual Studio! C, C++, FORTRAN (oops!), JAVA, C sharp, and the ultimate programing language, Visual Beginers All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code. All of them with great MS TM extentions that make your life so much easier. What more could you want? Well...
What do you mean, "truly integrated", VB script provided? A perfect fit for MS OS, cause they broke the rest? Where you gonna go when they break the User Kern.. I mean MFC, so that all your code spits chunks? Gotta keep up with the money grind, I mean upgrades till you get that $500,000 offer to cease and dessist. I admit that I liked Wattcom's auto make, but I could see it in text files. If it does not get ported, I'm just going to have to learn make, oh no! Aaaahh, ha-ha ha-ha ha-ha ha-ha, ha! Then I could port accoss platoforms and flex my new God-Like limbs. Try that with your VS robot code, "DO NOT EDIT THIS," flatulence.
Need a database? Try MySQL or Postgress. Now go away, flaming little troll.
Well, there's not much difference in the MS OS when you actually program them. Windows1 added a nice little windowing system with a loopback structure for applications and a few other nice things to 16bit FAT bassed DOS. This was progress, it was light, fast and easy to program. Then, zero. It took them forever to move everything to 32bit and change their file system to something more better. Bessides the registry, other changes OS have been supperficial. Unless you have been wizardized by the Visual Studio code-bot and the foundation class, you know that. It's nice to have standards, but bad not to improve them, worse to change them to break your competition.
When you compare that to the more substantial movement and growth in OSS, MS has been standing still. Linux has half a dozen solid file systems to choose from and MS types, and has been ported to almost every concievable platform.
Why would people think that OSS is playing catch up? Because there is a lot of user level software on MS and other comercial platforms.
Why is there so much software on MS platforms? Because developing for MS once sucked less than developing for Apple, or IBM etc. MS dumped OSes and tools once upon a time, and there was some gain to be had in using their tools. This made for a flood of developers. In other words there's more user level software for MS because there were move devolopers working on it.
What's wrong with this picture? First, it ignores the stagnation at other software levels for MS. Win2K=32bitDOS. MS innovation is close to zero these days, and some people would aregue that it always has been. Second, it's a static picture. OSS does have some user level catch up to do, but that's what happens when you have to cut out all the propriatary stuff and start from scratch. This does not preclude developers from leapfrogging MS and other commercial houses. It's happened before, (sendmail, and apatche come to mind) and it's going to happen much more.
Developing OSS sucks much less than developing MS junk. The tools are free for the most part, and you can share your work. The strength of a platform is geometric to the number of developers and the amount of code available.
A friend of mine who served on a nuclear submarine told me that sewer gas was routinely run through the scrubbers instead of making bubble noise. This made the whole thing stink like a fart every now and then. The rest of the time was not great on the nose either, but livable.
I had a 286 like that with a bad battery. Nothing stuck, but I just ignored the error and ran it anyway. It was a little faster than my XT, and was a handy backup machine for my nice little 486. It would run AutoCAD 10 and plot just fine. I found it in the trash in 1996. In 1997 I droped in a Cyrix Media GX and the box then worked better than the 486. Money helps like nothing else can.
A start up routine that does not start without some magic software really sucks.
Post all the rest of that junk anyway. Someone out there might be able to use one of those old hard disks or the modems. All of these things were useful once and still can be to people who are short on money but long on imagination and time.
Politics, sigh. This is not what I come here for, but let's get a few things straight. No one mentioned censorship and Bush had it right overall. Crime rates are down for reasons that mask the results of a growing culture of violence and death.
A crime is down because people have built jails to cage criminals and the drug of choice (due to higher profit margins for the loosers who sell poison) has shifted from cocaine to heroine. It's just that simple. More animals in jail means less crime outside. Those same people will be sedated by their favorite recreation and motivation for their other crimes. Result, less crime.
The decline in crime is no reason to keep quiet about other repulsive behavior. Music which routinely refers to women as bitches, recomends shooting people, and generally represents the paranoid worldview of complete loosers deserves it's loathing. Video games that take a similar disrespect of human life also deserve criticism. It is wrong to promote murder! It is wrong to glamorize killing and make it look like fun!
Bad attitudes lead to bad behavior. It's not just murder, it's all around selfishness and inconsiderate behavior that is being pushed. Compare TV adverts today to those of just 20 years ago. They have all become "edgier", angrier, and more indignant. "Please me, Please me, Please me!" Barf. Do you have "Battitude" asks Dodge? Just look at how people drive these days. A whole new phrase was invented for being angry while driving. Less consideration for the person next to you is the basis of crime. Expect it to get worse or for incarceration rates to continue to rise.
Can you get warped looking at the web? Well sure you can, just as easily as you could if you checked out a bunch of twisted books and molded in a dark corner by yourself for your entire adolescence. The difference is that there is far more twisted stuff available on the net than I've ever seen in a library or in the real world. No not even friend's drug enhanced voodoo (yes, real religious experiences) adventures in New Orleans were as screwed up as stuff that gets posted to the web. The orignial Dirty Hary was condemed as being too violent. Pulp fiction put it to shame, but the web will take you up close to all that shocked you. As close as you get, it's still glamorized until you can smell it. What is this? The foulest of cruelty glamorized, canned, sold to you and used to sell you other shit. Momma, watch your eight year old. Anti-social habbits can form anti-social behavior. SAVE YOURSELF, GET OUT and LIVE!
Is censorship the answer? NO. Free and open speech can do the job of making evil things repulsive to most people and thereby reduce demand for such garbage. Strong enforcement of state and local obscenity laws can keep these things out of your hair. Parenting your kids can keep them from getting into trouble in the first place.
We should not be slamming George Bush for speaking his mind. He NEVER mentioned censorship, and I've never heard anyone in his party say anything like that. Mostly, they recomend parenting your children, tax cuts over credits for daycare end of the marriage penalty, MOTHERHOOD, wow. Other people have recomended censorship of one form or another and should be beaten accordingly.
Article is a real knee-jerk and writing this has been unpleasent. I have not seen much better from Jamie, who seems to be going for the John Katz award. No, I just have to take him off my reading list. Poster exercises proper censorship of his world, Bye!
That 486 can fit in a PC or AT box. Combined with some other stuff, you junk can make someone a decent computer. Load it with Debian and you have a good terminal. Please do post your junk, some graduate student with nothing to his name can use it.
I suppose you are right about commercial sucesss. There are only so many cancer treatment centers and national labs. Then again, it's hard to tell what people will do with things you give them. It takes a very special person, like Von Braun, to interst people in their toys otherwise.
I'd hardly call the moldy Mir free of pests. WWII Japanese submarines, infamous for rats and roaches, are another artificial environment that could change your perceptions of such things. Yummmy, a fart in a space suit. Hell, there are some buildings I don't like being in and fresh air is right outside.
There are a few other nice things about a planet with a large, regenerating atmosphere. Gravity can be your friend in lots of ways, and it never breaks. Some mirco meteor is not going to ruin your day with body piercing and sucking out that atmosphere. Nor will solar storms send you running for cover.
Continuous sunlight is not what enables alternate day lengths. Sure, it's nice to see the sun durring the "day", but alternate day times were pionereed here on earth by tunring out the lights on submarines.
Colonizing free space and exploiting resources there is very important, but let's not try to glamorize it too much or let it get in the way of spreading to other planets. Ateroid smelting is going to be about as much fun but more seperated from the rest of humanity as oil drilling is today. The goal of points beyond will have to be the surface of other planets. The long time it will take to make it happen should not delay the start.
Be happy. The country that invented the internet could also ruin it. Be glad you did not get some kind of MicroSoft stooge that would fragment the largest part of the net.
This kind of thing is great for Monte Carlo techniques. Uses include transport calculations (medical imaging, reactor design) and multidimensional integration. Over a few dimensions MC kicks ass. The idea behind both is psuedo random number generation. In particle transport, you randomly pick directions and interactions and compare them to statistics. If something has a 1/3 chance and your random number is.24, the event did not happen. The result of many of these random interactions will simulate the real thing. The more random numbers you can generate the better your results get or the more detail you can put into your problem. With a proper seed chart, each of these 128 processors can compute your cases indepenently. The results can be summed into something that is much better than a single machine. The software is simple for this very useful application.
Compared to the power consumed by many boxes, a cluster of these things will be a very useful tool. I can imagine 10 of these in a single box doing great work. It will be very nice when they scale up the clock speed.
Just ignore the articles you are not interested in and don't post to the ones you don't like. Beating up the editors is not going to get anyone anywhere. If you really don't like someone's writing, change your prefernces.
I was kind of looking forward to more and easier to find information on the big chip here. Instead, I find all of these complaints which are even less interesting than other chip news.
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Well, I really can't argue with what you have said about corporate rip offs. It's true and I'm glad you say so. In theory all of this could be changed tomorow by a vote. Keep screaming, but don't be so smug.
The only reason you are not part of the good old USA is because you chose to fight for your recent royal English conquerers instead of your freedom. To this day, your honor holds you a slave to the crown. It's on your currency and in your laws. Say what you may about the ability of the crown to enforce those laws, it all amounts to the hollow declarations of a slave rather than a law abiding citzen or subject. A failed revolution is better than none.
You are just as much an American anyone else on this wide continent. Keep fighting for your interests and the truth.
Are'nt municiple cable and telco monopolies localy decided? How is it that everytown has decided to screw it's citezens with a single freaking cable provider? Is there something I'm missing here? Who owns that public access that brings me telphone, power, and cable? Where is the prommised competition?
How has all of this come to pass under a Democrat with a line item veto? Oh yeah, he's the same dude who signed the DMCPA, and pushed it too!
Sellouts top to bottom?
please mod up reading comprehension skills!
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Also from McGee in the CNN article:
Under the possible plan, AT&T, the No. 1 U.S. telephone and cable-television company, would charge for each customer that accesses an Internet retail site using AT&T's high-speed communications network. It would receive an additional commission when customers buy something, said Gartner Group analyst Ken McGee.
ATT refused comment, I won't.
This sucks jagged rocks, as does the rest of their cable modem direction. Changing from static IP, BZZZZT! Banning virtual IP addresses in your own home, BZZZZT! EULA that continues to outlaw any kind of serving, but having unreliable (MS of course) never up mail and DNS, BZZZZT! Just about requiring Windows and thinking that they have the right to poke around your system, BBBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTT! Overall a system that provides zero privacy, discourages all but the worst kind of file sharing, and forbids real publishing.
Cable companies need some real competition in the form of wires owned by other companies. Having everything owned by ATT unregulated does not seem like the logical result of telco deregulation.
You are the first post to actually look at that stale page and say anything about it's contents. Others have cried out that no one needs to look at the page. Some have even pointed out the late 1999 date, as if old FUD was somehow less harmful than new FUD.
Where did this Ars Fartsica and thes other MicroTurd appologist come from, and why is their prolific garbage ratted so high? It was hard to wade though all the trash to get here. It kind of sucks that all of it is going to be indexed...
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I'd rather think that they want to end the MS dominance on document standards. No one else has been able to get around all of the coppies of Office that MS dumped on every new computer that got sold with that forced MS OS. By putting this out as free they can rest assured that someone will be able to match every little twist and turn MS tries to put into their nasty specs. This way StarOffice users can follow MS faster than MS Office users! What a burn. More than that, with enough users reasonable and open document standards can be implimented to provide not just a compatible product but a better product. The hold will be broken. No commercial software has been able to compete, and none can do what this will.
Why is this a survival move? It will keep MS's dirty hands out of the server market that Sun serves so well. You don't need that Win2k server when your workers can communicate with the rest of the world without it. Sun has learned that market forces and dumping can be more important than superior technology. If they sat back, they would have watched MS leverage their desktop hold. They've gone to the root cause and faught back better.
MS's other cash cow, OS sales is down too. This is in part due to PC sales slow downs, but it might also have something to do with "naked PC's" getting a better OS stuck on them.
If this product is even close to stable, I can't imagine recomending MS to any student. As the students go, so goes the future. Sun will keep it's place in it.
why else would anyone eat a troll?
Gimmie, Gimmmie, Gimmie. It's all take and no give, huh? Want something? Make it, nothing is hidden here. All con artists take advantage of their victim's greed, and no con works without it.
Borland. I've got a soft spot in my heart for them, but MS has them by the balls. Now go pay your MS tax.
In this case, opposite applies. It's better to be able to choose between many systems that work, than it is to work with one system you can't ever fix.
Con artists always expoit the greed of their victims. Pay up sucker!
Aaaaah, ha-ha ha-ha ha-ha ha-ha, ha!
Ignite Napalm!
In the professional TM, windows TM, gimme all your money TM, world you've got, Visual Studio, and Borland's OWL and Wattcom's, I mean Sybase's Power Station... wait a minute! You've only got Visual Studio when MS gets finished breaking everyone else.
But I don't know what I'm talking about do I? Think of all the great choices you get within Visual Studio! C, C++, FORTRAN (oops!), JAVA, C sharp, and the ultimate programing language, Visual Beginers All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code. All of them with great MS TM extentions that make your life so much easier. What more could you want? Well...
What do you mean, "truly integrated", VB script provided? A perfect fit for MS OS, cause they broke the rest? Where you gonna go when they break the User Kern.. I mean MFC, so that all your code spits chunks? Gotta keep up with the money grind, I mean upgrades till you get that $500,000 offer to cease and dessist. I admit that I liked Wattcom's auto make, but I could see it in text files. If it does not get ported, I'm just going to have to learn make, oh no! Aaaahh, ha-ha ha-ha ha-ha ha-ha, ha! Then I could port accoss platoforms and flex my new God-Like limbs. Try that with your VS robot code, "DO NOT EDIT THIS," flatulence.
Need a database? Try MySQL or Postgress. Now go away, flaming little troll.
When you compare that to the more substantial movement and growth in OSS, MS has been standing still. Linux has half a dozen solid file systems to choose from and MS types, and has been ported to almost every concievable platform.
Why is there so much software on MS platforms? Because developing for MS once sucked less than developing for Apple, or IBM etc. MS dumped OSes and tools once upon a time, and there was some gain to be had in using their tools. This made for a flood of developers. In other words there's more user level software for MS because there were move devolopers working on it.
What's wrong with this picture? First, it ignores the stagnation at other software levels for MS. Win2K=32bitDOS. MS innovation is close to zero these days, and some people would aregue that it always has been. Second, it's a static picture. OSS does have some user level catch up to do, but that's what happens when you have to cut out all the propriatary stuff and start from scratch. This does not preclude developers from leapfrogging MS and other commercial houses. It's happened before, (sendmail, and apatche come to mind) and it's going to happen much more.
Developing OSS sucks much less than developing MS junk. The tools are free for the most part, and you can share your work. The strength of a platform is geometric to the number of developers and the amount of code available.
A friend of mine who served on a nuclear submarine told me that sewer gas was routinely run through the scrubbers instead of making bubble noise. This made the whole thing stink like a fart every now and then. The rest of the time was not great on the nose either, but livable.
A start up routine that does not start without some magic software really sucks.
Post all the rest of that junk anyway. Someone out there might be able to use one of those old hard disks or the modems. All of these things were useful once and still can be to people who are short on money but long on imagination and time.
A crime is down because people have built jails to cage criminals and the drug of choice (due to higher profit margins for the loosers who sell poison) has shifted from cocaine to heroine. It's just that simple. More animals in jail means less crime outside. Those same people will be sedated by their favorite recreation and motivation for their other crimes. Result, less crime.
The decline in crime is no reason to keep quiet about other repulsive behavior. Music which routinely refers to women as bitches, recomends shooting people, and generally represents the paranoid worldview of complete loosers deserves it's loathing. Video games that take a similar disrespect of human life also deserve criticism. It is wrong to promote murder! It is wrong to glamorize killing and make it look like fun!
Bad attitudes lead to bad behavior. It's not just murder, it's all around selfishness and inconsiderate behavior that is being pushed. Compare TV adverts today to those of just 20 years ago. They have all become "edgier", angrier, and more indignant. "Please me, Please me, Please me!" Barf. Do you have "Battitude" asks Dodge? Just look at how people drive these days. A whole new phrase was invented for being angry while driving. Less consideration for the person next to you is the basis of crime. Expect it to get worse or for incarceration rates to continue to rise.
Can you get warped looking at the web? Well sure you can, just as easily as you could if you checked out a bunch of twisted books and molded in a dark corner by yourself for your entire adolescence. The difference is that there is far more twisted stuff available on the net than I've ever seen in a library or in the real world. No not even friend's drug enhanced voodoo (yes, real religious experiences) adventures in New Orleans were as screwed up as stuff that gets posted to the web. The orignial Dirty Hary was condemed as being too violent. Pulp fiction put it to shame, but the web will take you up close to all that shocked you. As close as you get, it's still glamorized until you can smell it. What is this? The foulest of cruelty glamorized, canned, sold to you and used to sell you other shit. Momma, watch your eight year old. Anti-social habbits can form anti-social behavior. SAVE YOURSELF, GET OUT and LIVE!
Is censorship the answer? NO. Free and open speech can do the job of making evil things repulsive to most people and thereby reduce demand for such garbage. Strong enforcement of state and local obscenity laws can keep these things out of your hair. Parenting your kids can keep them from getting into trouble in the first place.
We should not be slamming George Bush for speaking his mind. He NEVER mentioned censorship, and I've never heard anyone in his party say anything like that. Mostly, they recomend parenting your children, tax cuts over credits for daycare end of the marriage penalty, MOTHERHOOD, wow. Other people have recomended censorship of one form or another and should be beaten accordingly.
Article is a real knee-jerk and writing this has been unpleasent. I have not seen much better from Jamie, who seems to be going for the John Katz award. No, I just have to take him off my reading list. Poster exercises proper censorship of his world, Bye!
That 486 can fit in a PC or AT box. Combined with some other stuff, you junk can make someone a decent computer. Load it with Debian and you have a good terminal. Please do post your junk, some graduate student with nothing to his name can use it.
Pulblic library terminals and fliers in places that need them. Print out and post.
I suppose you are right about commercial sucesss. There are only so many cancer treatment centers and national labs. Then again, it's hard to tell what people will do with things you give them. It takes a very special person, like Von Braun, to interst people in their toys otherwise.
I'd hardly call the moldy Mir free of pests. WWII Japanese submarines, infamous for rats and roaches, are another artificial environment that could change your perceptions of such things. Yummmy, a fart in a space suit. Hell, there are some buildings I don't like being in and fresh air is right outside.
There are a few other nice things about a planet with a large, regenerating atmosphere. Gravity can be your friend in lots of ways, and it never breaks. Some mirco meteor is not going to ruin your day with body piercing and sucking out that atmosphere. Nor will solar storms send you running for cover.
Continuous sunlight is not what enables alternate day lengths. Sure, it's nice to see the sun durring the "day", but alternate day times were pionereed here on earth by tunring out the lights on submarines.
Colonizing free space and exploiting resources there is very important, but let's not try to glamorize it too much or let it get in the way of spreading to other planets. Ateroid smelting is going to be about as much fun but more seperated from the rest of humanity as oil drilling is today. The goal of points beyond will have to be the surface of other planets. The long time it will take to make it happen should not delay the start.
Bravo to the people considering this seriously!
See article bottom of page, America Ready for Third Ketchup Brand . How about that?
Be happy. The country that invented the internet could also ruin it. Be glad you did not get some kind of MicroSoft stooge that would fragment the largest part of the net.
All you have to do to texturize the average mouse is eat at your desk. Damn crums, they make all sorts of clicks and slips.
I'm not crazy! Not me! Here let me stick my thumb in your ear to prove it! You can talk to my hand friend too. It's OK, I swear.
Put your thumb in your ear. Extend your pinky to your mouth. Talk on your phone.
People around you might do this:
Make an orbital motion of the index finger around their temple while pointing at you.
Compared to the power consumed by many boxes, a cluster of these things will be a very useful tool. I can imagine 10 of these in a single box doing great work. It will be very nice when they scale up the clock speed.
I was kind of looking forward to more and easier to find information on the big chip here. Instead, I find all of these complaints which are even less interesting than other chip news.
The only reason you are not part of the good old USA is because you chose to fight for your recent royal English conquerers instead of your freedom. To this day, your honor holds you a slave to the crown. It's on your currency and in your laws. Say what you may about the ability of the crown to enforce those laws, it all amounts to the hollow declarations of a slave rather than a law abiding citzen or subject. A failed revolution is better than none.
You are just as much an American anyone else on this wide continent. Keep fighting for your interests and the truth.
Good bye, fair Karma!!!!!!!
How has all of this come to pass under a Democrat with a line item veto? Oh yeah, he's the same dude who signed the DMCPA, and pushed it too!
Sellouts top to bottom?
Under the possible plan, AT&T, the No. 1 U.S. telephone and cable-television company, would charge for each customer that accesses an Internet retail site using AT&T's high-speed communications network. It would receive an additional commission when customers buy something, said Gartner Group analyst Ken McGee.
ATT refused comment, I won't.
This sucks jagged rocks, as does the rest of their cable modem direction. Changing from static IP, BZZZZT! Banning virtual IP addresses in your own home, BZZZZT! EULA that continues to outlaw any kind of serving, but having unreliable (MS of course) never up mail and DNS, BZZZZT! Just about requiring Windows and thinking that they have the right to poke around your system, BBBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTT! Overall a system that provides zero privacy, discourages all but the worst kind of file sharing, and forbids real publishing.
Cable companies need some real competition in the form of wires owned by other companies. Having everything owned by ATT unregulated does not seem like the logical result of telco deregulation.
Where did this Ars Fartsica and thes other MicroTurd appologist come from, and why is their prolific garbage ratted so high? It was hard to wade though all the trash to get here. It kind of sucks that all of it is going to be indexed...