How about if Amazon simply reported their sales by address to the state in question? Then it would be up to the state to pursue the use tax if they care to. Kind of like financial institutions report interest income to the IRS without collecting any tax due.
There are 5 days left in 2009. There was maybe a month to go when they added that dotted line. I think they had a pretty good idea where 2009 was going end up by then.
2009 will be warmer than 2008 so the globe must be warming. That makes as much sense as the 5 year mean. How many times in the past has the 5 year mean had similar waggles? It's no reason to think the long term upward trend won't continue given what we know about climate. Climate scientists often look at it in terms of 30 year trend lines. That's long enough to filter out the short term noise of natural variability such as ENSO/El Nino, PDO, solar variability, etc. that does show up in 5 year trends.
BTW, if the current El Nino lingers until March or April of 2010 it has a good chance of becoming the hottest year on record despite an unusually low solar minimum.
What a load of crap. There is ample evidence that increases in CO2 have contributed to the warming. There is ample evidence that without CO2 in the atmosphere the average surface temperature would be 10-15 F lower than it is now. 2007/2008 had a La Nina going and so were somewhat colder than the norm but they were still warmer globally than any year before 1997 (in the instrument record). 2009 is probably going to be the 2nd or 3rd warmest year ever in the instrument record.
It's hysterically funny to see deniers commenting on snow in Copenhagen in December as if that's an unusual occurrence. Point me to a source that shows the lows in Copenhagen were records, but even if they are, so what? Global warming doesn't preclude record lows from happening, it just says they will probably occur less often than in the past.
So, did you look at the dotted line at the end of the black line? It shows where they expect 2009 to end up. All of your cooling has mysteriously disappeared this year.
I wish you guys would give up on the 1970s global cooling myth. An analysis of papers from 1965 to 1979 found 7 papers talked about cooling and 42 papers talked about warming. Global cooling was never a dominant idea in climate science.
Yes, natural gas is a hydrocarbon. But it's more efficient to use it than coal or petroleum. For instance it produces about 1/3 less CO2 to produce electricity from natural gas than it does coal. If we switched all the the coal fired plants to natural gas we'd cut the emissions from that power production by 1/3. Not the end goal but a reasonable start in the transition.
Health care can never be a free market and it shouldn't be. Do you really want decisions on your health care based on what's most profitable to the entities providing it rather than what's best for your health. If you really want it to be a free market then figure out a way to make it more profitable to keep you healthy than to sell you services and products when you're sick.
Unfortunately the SCOTUS has ruled that money is equivalent to free speech and to limit contributions to people who are only in within a congresspersons district is a restriction on free speech.
Your NOAA ice core data graphs are misleading because the are for one ice core in central Greenland. I saw them first over at foresight.org There is an ice core from the Antarctic Peninsula that shows colder than normal during the same time your graphs show the MWP. Don't you think you want to use the data from more than one ice core to get a more comprehensive global picture?
Practically nothing will be mothballed immediately. It will take 20 or 30 years to make the conversion. It's just time to get started on it. If I was a banker I sure wouldn't make loans for a fossil fuel power plant except possibly a natural gas turbine now.
There is both more oxygen and more CO2 in colder waters. That's why I used the word "gas". Cold water can hold more dissolved gas of any kind than warm water.
Climate change from CO2 is a global problem and requires global solutions. To not respond to it because of some fear of world government is to cut off your nose to spite your face. If some of the worst possible effects of climate change come to pass our civilization will collapse and we won't have to worry about a world government, just your friendly local despot.
arminw, I refreshed my memory about why colder seas are more productive than warmer seas. It's because cold water is able to hold more dissolved gas so it has a considerably higher oxygen content than warm water. A higher level of dissolved oxygen allows the sea life to lead a more energetic lifestyle. I just wanted to let you know the accurate reason.
The asteroid belt?
What do you think fractional reserve banking is?
How about if Amazon simply reported their sales by address to the state in question? Then it would be up to the state to pursue the use tax if they care to. Kind of like financial institutions report interest income to the IRS without collecting any tax due.
Yes, every large earthquake must be connected to a cosmic event? I think not.
Some of us didn't have any say in the matter.
There are 5 days left in 2009. There was maybe a month to go when they added that dotted line. I think they had a pretty good idea where 2009 was going end up by then.
And they (D's) are the only ones ever involved in vote scandals
Now that's a laugh. Ever hear of voter caging? That's an almost exclusively Republican crime.
2009 will be warmer than 2008 so the globe must be warming. That makes as much sense as the 5 year mean. How many times in the past has the 5 year mean had similar waggles? It's no reason to think the long term upward trend won't continue given what we know about climate. Climate scientists often look at it in terms of 30 year trend lines. That's long enough to filter out the short term noise of natural variability such as ENSO/El Nino, PDO, solar variability, etc. that does show up in 5 year trends.
BTW, if the current El Nino lingers until March or April of 2010 it has a good chance of becoming the hottest year on record despite an unusually low solar minimum.
What a load of crap. There is ample evidence that increases in CO2 have contributed to the warming. There is ample evidence that without CO2 in the atmosphere the average surface temperature would be 10-15 F lower than it is now. 2007/2008 had a La Nina going and so were somewhat colder than the norm but they were still warmer globally than any year before 1997 (in the instrument record). 2009 is probably going to be the 2nd or 3rd warmest year ever in the instrument record.
It's hysterically funny to see deniers commenting on snow in Copenhagen in December as if that's an unusual occurrence. Point me to a source that shows the lows in Copenhagen were records, but even if they are, so what? Global warming doesn't preclude record lows from happening, it just says they will probably occur less often than in the past.
So, did you look at the dotted line at the end of the black line? It shows where they expect 2009 to end up. All of your cooling has mysteriously disappeared this year.
Well, there are laws against stealing data from computer systems.
I wish you guys would give up on the 1970s global cooling myth. An analysis of papers from 1965 to 1979 found 7 papers talked about cooling and 42 papers talked about warming. Global cooling was never a dominant idea in climate science.
Yes, natural gas is a hydrocarbon. But it's more efficient to use it than coal or petroleum. For instance it produces about 1/3 less CO2 to produce electricity from natural gas than it does coal. If we switched all the the coal fired plants to natural gas we'd cut the emissions from that power production by 1/3. Not the end goal but a reasonable start in the transition.
"The globe is cooling" is a big denier lie. 2009 will be the 2nd or 3rd hottest year on record.
Declining precipitation may well be a symptom of global warming.
Umm... I think a line in the ideal sense is a 1 dimensional object. 2 dimensional objects have area.
I concur.
Health care can never be a free market and it shouldn't be. Do you really want decisions on your health care based on what's most profitable to the entities providing it rather than what's best for your health. If you really want it to be a free market then figure out a way to make it more profitable to keep you healthy than to sell you services and products when you're sick.
Bill Clinton was an example of Democrats trying to be Republican-lite.
Unfortunately the SCOTUS has ruled that money is equivalent to free speech and to limit contributions to people who are only in within a congresspersons district is a restriction on free speech.
I imagine climate change will have some effect on tea growing as well. I guess no one has done the research yet.
Your NOAA ice core data graphs are misleading because the are for one ice core in central Greenland. I saw them first over at foresight.org There is an ice core from the Antarctic Peninsula that shows colder than normal during the same time your graphs show the MWP. Don't you think you want to use the data from more than one ice core to get a more comprehensive global picture?
Practically nothing will be mothballed immediately. It will take 20 or 30 years to make the conversion. It's just time to get started on it. If I was a banker I sure wouldn't make loans for a fossil fuel power plant except possibly a natural gas turbine now.
There is both more oxygen and more CO2 in colder waters. That's why I used the word "gas". Cold water can hold more dissolved gas of any kind than warm water.
Climate change from CO2 is a global problem and requires global solutions. To not respond to it because of some fear of world government is to cut off your nose to spite your face. If some of the worst possible effects of climate change come to pass our civilization will collapse and we won't have to worry about a world government, just your friendly local despot.
arminw, I refreshed my memory about why colder seas are more productive than warmer seas. It's because cold water is able to hold more dissolved gas so it has a considerably higher oxygen content than warm water. A higher level of dissolved oxygen allows the sea life to lead a more energetic lifestyle. I just wanted to let you know the accurate reason.