You know, the right complains all the time about activist judges legislating from the bench. Well, that decision was about as activist as it gets. They decided that rather than just address the narrow question about Citizens United's rights to air their film they would expand it to include this much broader question. Activist judges is a straw man term for judges that make decisions your don't like. (Yes, I see the irony in my statement that it was and activist decision).
Armin, How do you feel about the Chinese government influencing US politics through some US corporate subsidiary? Isn't this a step on the road to a one world government allowing unlimited foreign influence in US elections?
Do you realize that this opens the door for corporations controlled by foreigners to spend money to directly influence United States elections? If this is allowed to stand don't you think it's another step on the road to the world government that so many righties fear? Multi-national corporations don't have any loyalties except to their bottom line.
Money is not free speech! It is merely an amplifier of free speech. If money is free speech then Bill Gates owns about 200,000 times as much free speech as I do. The Founding Fathers of this country were largely anti-corporation in their outlook and are probably spinning in their graves right about now.
The Afghan's/Taliban offered to turn OBL over to a third country but Bush wasn't interested. Personally I think the neocons probably didn't want to catch him because he was a convenient bogey man for furthering other aims.
You're not likely to use one of the cereal box units for navigation except as an extreme emergency backup. The ones you use on ships and aircraft have all sorts of additional useful functions such as programming a course using known navigation points.
The 2000s were warmer than the 1990s. That's what the data says. Maybe it's colder than it's been in decades where you live but that's not a true statement globally. Here in Oregon we had a cold snap in December, 4 straight days of lows under 10F at my house. I've lived in this area since 1958 and only remember perhaps 2 or 3 comparable events. Yet the glaciers on Mt. Hood have lost nearly 20% of their ice since 1970. These events are not surprising to climate scientists, they're just a part of the weather noise that makes up the climate. I've seen no predictions for 6C temperature increase in 100 years. Maybe 6F (around 3C).
I guess maintaining your standard of living is more important than maintaining a livable planet.
The vast majority of data and model codes are available if you care to look for them. The GISS has links on their web site to all of theirs including the Model E General Circulation Model (GCM, aka Global Climate Model) code. That's one of the GCM's used in the latest IPCC report. NOAA has lots of data available including raw station data. Knock yourself out.
Global warming is a fine term. I use it all the time because it's true. The average temperature of the globe is increasing. It doesn't mean every year will be warmer than the last, just that the long term mean global temperature is going up. I use other terms as well as you noticed.
You should read up on ozone depletion. The problem hasn't gone away, it's just under better control than it was before.
I don't have a clue what you mean about India. If you think American jobs went offshore because of climate change regulations you're crazy. They started going long before any such regulations came into being.
And maybe the CIA can spin how record heat waves next summer are a result of global warming as well. Please direct me to a source for "the coldest winter in decades worldwide" statement. They had a record heat wave in Australia in November. The third one in the last 2 years.
Of course weather happens. It's just the noise signal on the climate carrier wave. It's winter and we expect cold weather. Sometimes records will be set. Across the Continental US in the 2000's the ratio of record highs to record lows is 2.04:1. In the 1990's the ratio was 1.36:1. Those are the kind of statistics that have something to do with global warming.
Personally, I see far more twisting of facts coming from the anti-global warming side of the argument.
Hey there Monte, when you can't attack the science attack the messengers, eh?
It's not a threat to the planet, just to the complex intertwined civilization we've created that is built around the natural resources and processes that sustain us. Many of those processes are dependent on climate to function. But the planet will go on even if homo sapiens goes extinct (which I don't expect, we're a very adaptable species).
Yes, I'll give you that, regardless of source it's a threat. But since global warming is largely of anthropogenic origin we can reduce the threat by reducing our contribution to it.
The IPCC report is out of date on the subject of sea level rise. Current estimates are 1-2 meters by 2100. That doesn't sound like a lot but how much land does Florida and the gulf coast lose if sea level rises 3+ feet? And don't think it stops in 2100. It will take several hundred years for the climate and sea levels to reach a new equilibrium.
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You know, the right complains all the time about activist judges legislating from the bench. Well, that decision was about as activist as it gets. They decided that rather than just address the narrow question about Citizens United's rights to air their film they would expand it to include this much broader question. Activist judges is a straw man term for judges that make decisions your don't like. (Yes, I see the irony in my statement that it was and activist decision).
Armin, How do you feel about the Chinese government influencing US politics through some US corporate subsidiary? Isn't this a step on the road to a one world government allowing unlimited foreign influence in US elections?
The way I put is "Money is an amplifier of free speech."
Do you realize that this opens the door for corporations controlled by foreigners to spend money to directly influence United States elections? If this is allowed to stand don't you think it's another step on the road to the world government that so many righties fear? Multi-national corporations don't have any loyalties except to their bottom line.
Money is not free speech! It is merely an amplifier of free speech. If money is free speech then Bill Gates owns about 200,000 times as much free speech as I do. The Founding Fathers of this country were largely anti-corporation in their outlook and are probably spinning in their graves right about now.
I doubt they used steel any place on the shuttle they didn't absolutely have to. I think the structure is mostly aluminum.
I'd convict them then pardon them but throw the bums who told them it was ok in prison.
The Afghan's/Taliban offered to turn OBL over to a third country but Bush wasn't interested. Personally I think the neocons probably didn't want to catch him because he was a convenient bogey man for furthering other aims.
You're not likely to use one of the cereal box units for navigation except as an extreme emergency backup. The ones you use on ships and aircraft have all sorts of additional useful functions such as programming a course using known navigation points.
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Just a happy coincidence I guess :)
I don't know if there's any relation but Linus Torvalds lives in the Portland area, about 60 miles north of the OSU campus.
Huh? "Anthropogenic" is a perfectly good word. It simply means of human origin.
Now that's an insightful comment.
The 2000s were warmer than the 1990s. That's what the data says. Maybe it's colder than it's been in decades where you live but that's not a true statement globally. Here in Oregon we had a cold snap in December, 4 straight days of lows under 10F at my house. I've lived in this area since 1958 and only remember perhaps 2 or 3 comparable events. Yet the glaciers on Mt. Hood have lost nearly 20% of their ice since 1970. These events are not surprising to climate scientists, they're just a part of the weather noise that makes up the climate. I've seen no predictions for 6C temperature increase in 100 years. Maybe 6F (around 3C).
I guess maintaining your standard of living is more important than maintaining a livable planet.
The vast majority of data and model codes are available if you care to look for them. The GISS has links on their web site to all of theirs including the Model E General Circulation Model (GCM, aka Global Climate Model) code. That's one of the GCM's used in the latest IPCC report. NOAA has lots of data available including raw station data. Knock yourself out.
Global warming is a fine term. I use it all the time because it's true. The average temperature of the globe is increasing. It doesn't mean every year will be warmer than the last, just that the long term mean global temperature is going up. I use other terms as well as you noticed.
You should read up on ozone depletion. The problem hasn't gone away, it's just under better control than it was before.
I don't have a clue what you mean about India. If you think American jobs went offshore because of climate change regulations you're crazy. They started going long before any such regulations came into being.
And maybe the CIA can spin how record heat waves next summer are a result of global warming as well. Please direct me to a source for "the coldest winter in decades worldwide" statement. They had a record heat wave in Australia in November. The third one in the last 2 years.
Of course weather happens. It's just the noise signal on the climate carrier wave. It's winter and we expect cold weather. Sometimes records will be set. Across the Continental US in the 2000's the ratio of record highs to record lows is 2.04:1. In the 1990's the ratio was 1.36:1. Those are the kind of statistics that have something to do with global warming.
Personally, I see far more twisting of facts coming from the anti-global warming side of the argument.
Hey there Monte, when you can't attack the science attack the messengers, eh?
It's not a threat to the planet, just to the complex intertwined civilization we've created that is built around the natural resources and processes that sustain us. Many of those processes are dependent on climate to function. But the planet will go on even if homo sapiens goes extinct (which I don't expect, we're a very adaptable species).
Yes, I'll give you that, regardless of source it's a threat. But since global warming is largely of anthropogenic origin we can reduce the threat by reducing our contribution to it.
If my choice is health care up to the whims of a politician or up the whims of an insurance executive I'll choose the politician.
The IPCC report is out of date on the subject of sea level rise. Current estimates are 1-2 meters by 2100. That doesn't sound like a lot but how much land does Florida and the gulf coast lose if sea level rises 3+ feet? And don't think it stops in 2100. It will take several hundred years for the climate and sea levels to reach a new equilibrium.
The only scandal in "ClimateGate" is that people think it affect the scientific conclusions about anthropogenic climate change.
Well, considering that anthropogenic climate change is probably a bigger threat in the long run than terrorism it's good that the CIA is helping.
Hardly evidence that can be used to refute global warming either.