What gets me is there are things that can be done.
And they can be done *now*.
Ban incandescent light bulbs.
Mandate energy efficiency in consumer electronics goods.
Promote a viable, cheap and efficient mass public transport system.
Enforce recycling (now underway in UK).
Promote locally sourced goods and produce (don't eat food thats moved more then 1000miles to your plate).
Mandate efficient motor vehicles.
Either sort out hydrogen fuels cells or admit you were wrong and go the ZEV route.
*Educate* people.
"Inconvienient Truth" was a good start, but we need more to get the message across.
I live in the UK, 10 of the hottest years we have on record were in the last 14 years. It scares the crap out of me.
And the fact that nothing is being done infuriates me.
The fact remains that one of the major reasons that nothing is being done is because of weak willed politicians who are concerned more about their own re-election prospects then doing the right thing. Large corporations also have the capability to do good things instead look to line their own pockets and please the shareholders.
Katrina was a wake up call for the US.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina)
The hot summer a few years ago in Europe that killed 10000+ was a wake up for Europe. (http://www.iht.com/articles/2003/08/29/heat_0.php )
Bangladesh is getting near annual flooding wake ups.
as pointed out before the Red Book specification describes audio CD's.
but data DVD has sectors and format information in the data on top of the red book specification.
and the Orange Book specification give details of multisession formats.
most of the "copy protection" systems used worked by wrapping the session information to impossible combinations that were impossible to read. or degrading the galois based CRC information that was used to recover bad data. neither of these methods were fatal to a Red Book player that only played audio disks as it ignored all other formats happily.
but these days most CD players can play MP3's also, and hence are data players not audio players - this means they are exactly the systems that the copy protection was designed to disrupt.
so the CD manufacturers found themselves in a situation where the new hifi's being built were being disrupted by they copy protection and hence unable to play any of the CDs. its a question of the physiscal data path built into the decoder IC on most MP3/Audio CD players.
in short, I'm not suprised they stopped including it - I'm just suprised they waited so long.
Yes, you can get the PIN that method, but unless you can actaully handshake with the EMV chip you have absolutly zero chance of getting the bank details. In the UK certainly the chip readers do now actually have the option to confiscate the card so a fake mini-EPOS terminal is not going to work.
Your idea about using a real EMV EPOS terminal is a non starter as most of them are not allowed to do offline transactions - so you'd need an account and access codes to be able to use them. Good luck, let me know how that works out.
The only method that can still be used is a skimmmer (sits in front of the slot on an ATM and reads the card and photos the pin entry) but the average user is thankfully getting smart enough to detect that the shiny plastic thing clipped to the front of the cash point is probably not to be trusted.
So that really only leaves mugging somebody or creating a fake ATM (which has been done many times) - both of which probably would work, but are futunately quite rare these days.
Quite.
There have been a spate of car thefts in the UK where the thief has also broken into the victims home to take the keys as well. So instead of just nicking the car they now have to break into the house to get the keys too, as they know that the car won't go without them.
And you're also bang on the money (sorry about the terrible pun) about the new PIN system, the liability was shifted immediately.
What annoyed me was the shift in liability. The old fashioned "swipe and sign" cards, if they were compromised and somebody nicked your cash then the banks could be held liable and some remittance sought. However - with the new system there is an automatic assumption that you have given your PIN away and hence its your fault and you can he held liable. So if somebody stands behind you, watches you type in your PIN and then follows you outside, mugs you and steals your card - then you can be held liable for not taking care of your PIN number.
Also the system seems quite unreliable even now.
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What gets me is there are things that can be done.
And they can be done *now*.
Ban incandescent light bulbs. Mandate energy efficiency in consumer electronics goods. Promote a viable, cheap and efficient mass public transport system. Enforce recycling (now underway in UK). Promote locally sourced goods and produce (don't eat food thats moved more then 1000miles to your plate). Mandate efficient motor vehicles. Either sort out hydrogen fuels cells or admit you were wrong and go the ZEV route.
*Educate* people.
"Inconvienient Truth" was a good start, but we need more to get the message across.
I live in the UK, 10 of the hottest years we have on record were in the last 14 years. It scares the crap out of me.
And the fact that nothing is being done infuriates me.
The fact remains that one of the major reasons that nothing is being done is because of weak willed politicians who are concerned more about their own re-election prospects then doing the right thing. Large corporations also have the capability to do good things instead look to line their own pockets and please the shareholders.
Katrina was a wake up call for the US. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina) The hot summer a few years ago in Europe that killed 10000+ was a wake up for Europe. (http://www.iht.com/articles/2003/08/29/heat_0.php )
Bangladesh is getting near annual flooding wake ups.
Why the fsck isn't anything being done?
The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers
as pointed out before the Red Book specification describes audio CD's.
but data DVD has sectors and format information in the data on top of the red book specification.
and the Orange Book specification give details of multisession formats.
most of the "copy protection" systems used worked by wrapping the session information to impossible combinations that were impossible to read. or degrading the galois based CRC information that was used to recover bad data. neither of these methods were fatal to a Red Book player that only played audio disks as it ignored all other formats happily.
but these days most CD players can play MP3's also, and hence are data players not audio players - this means they are exactly the systems that the copy protection was designed to disrupt.
so the CD manufacturers found themselves in a situation where the new hifi's being built were being disrupted by they copy protection and hence unable to play any of the CDs. its a question of the physiscal data path built into the decoder IC on most MP3/Audio CD players.
in short, I'm not suprised they stopped including it - I'm just suprised they waited so long.
Its not actually that easy.
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Yes, you can get the PIN that method, but unless you can actaully handshake with the EMV chip you have absolutly zero chance of getting the bank details. In the UK certainly the chip readers do now actually have the option to confiscate the card so a fake mini-EPOS terminal is not going to work.
Your idea about using a real EMV EPOS terminal is a non starter as most of them are not allowed to do offline transactions - so you'd need an account and access codes to be able to use them. Good luck, let me know how that works out.
The only method that can still be used is a skimmmer (sits in front of the slot on an ATM and reads the card and photos the pin entry) but the average user is thankfully getting smart enough to detect that the shiny plastic thing clipped to the front of the cash point is probably not to be trusted.
skimmer: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/dors
So that really only leaves mugging somebody or creating a fake ATM (which has been done many times) - both of which probably would work, but are futunately quite rare these days.
Quite. There have been a spate of car thefts in the UK where the thief has also broken into the victims home to take the keys as well. So instead of just nicking the car they now have to break into the house to get the keys too, as they know that the car won't go without them. And you're also bang on the money (sorry about the terrible pun) about the new PIN system, the liability was shifted immediately.
What annoyed me was the shift in liability. The old fashioned "swipe and sign" cards, if they were compromised and somebody nicked your cash then the banks could be held liable and some remittance sought. However - with the new system there is an automatic assumption that you have given your PIN away and hence its your fault and you can he held liable. So if somebody stands behind you, watches you type in your PIN and then follows you outside, mugs you and steals your card - then you can be held liable for not taking care of your PIN number. Also the system seems quite unreliable even now.