K, then I won't bother calling the fire department when your house is ablaze, or the police when you've been robbed, oh and those sewer lines we can easily shut off, as well as the trash collection you've got subsidized, lets just tell them to stop dropping by. There, now see how fucking self-reliant you are. Oh, and maybe you ought to be paying 1-200% more for those crops we're subsidizing for you to eat.
It's paid for out of the checks of the workers (and then funneled into the programs by the federal government) that's why its called unemployment INSURANCE. This is the biggest crock of shit that the blame the victim "personal responsibility" crowd needs to get over. Its just as much welfare as your HEALTH insurance is.
Aside from the fact that most people who actually WORK for a living can't afford two homes (or to try and flip property), and the fact that I was specifically mentioning the situation that you had to sell a home to RELOCATE FOR WORK, not as a SHORT TERM INVESTMENT (nice attempted dodge there, but lets deal with the situation at hand) when someone deflates the value of your home due to lack of maintenance (ever wonder why when a bunch of renters move in the values go down, or when a bunch of houses get repo'd by the bank the values go down, or when someone lets their home become an eyesore?) it makes it difficult to have the portability of equity that is an attractive facet of home ownership. Where in ANY of that did the idea of a home as a short term investment get raised? No one's looking for profit, just for the money you put in to come back to you. If I get laid off (or you for that matter) and have to move elsewhere to find work, its not because of your investment strategy or anything else, its simply life. Most people have to relocate several times in their adult lives to stay gainfully employed.
There are certainly people - lots of them, who abuse the welfare system. But generalization is not the answer in this case - and cut throat utilitarianism doesn't lead to, what I considered, much of a utopia.
More FUD:
Myth: People on Welfare Become Permanently Dependent on the Support
Fact: Movement off Welfare Rolls Is Frequent
A prevalent welfare myth is that women who received AFDC became permanently dependent on public assistance. Analyses indicate that 56 percent of AFDC support ended within 12 months, 70 percent within 24 months, and almost 85 percent within 4 years (Staff of House Committee on Ways and Means, 1996). These exit rates clearly contradict the widespread myth that AFDC recipients wanted to remain on public assistance or that welfare dependency was permanent. Unfortunately, return rates were also high, with 45 percent of ex-recipients returning to AFDC within 1 year. Persons who were likely to use AFDC longer than the average time had less than 12 years of education, no recent work experience, were never married, had a child below age 3 or had three or more children, were Latina or African American, and were under age 24 (Staff of House Committee on Ways and Means, 1996). These risk factors illustrate the importance of structural barriers, such as inadequate child care, racism, and lack of education.
I agree with most of your post, but its just not true that people abusing the system is widespread or common. Its the safety net that we put in place so that poor people aren't desperate enough to rob, murder, rape, and steal. Look at it as self-interested protection money, because the mob is much bigger than you. (If you're that heartless that you can't just do without a few pennies a week so that starving people can eat.) (That last part is directed at the GP)
How bad will you feel when you need to sell your house to relocate for work? Seems like a property value reduction will suck then. And you're dreaming if you think tax valuations take anything remotely like that into account properly. Here, have a clue.
However, when my neighbor gets so fat he can't mow his lawn, clean his gutters, paint his house, take out his trash, etc he is harming my property by reducing its value. So, should I wait until I have to get his ass on a treadmill so he'll maintain his property or should I just nip the hamburger problem in the bud before it gets out of hand?
So you'd rather preach, be self-righteous, and let people starve than deal with the REAL problems that are out there? I hate this "personal responsibility" crap. I am personally responsible. So are many people that get laid off and take advantage of the Unemployment Insurance that they PAY for out of their checks. The idea that somehow people in the past were more responsible, or educated, or hardworking is just plain crap. Every time the financial markets get deregulated, predatory lending takes off, and everyone ends up broke. The idea that somehow uneducated consumers that haven't dealt their whole lives with complex financial instruments that many of the people selling them don't even fully grasp is blaming the victim.
Why don't you take the energy used to create all that hot air and use it to make some positive changes in the world? Volunteer doing literacy training so that someone who "didn't pay attention in school" can get a shot at life and be productive members of society (since you understand that's what the VAST MAJORITY of them want to do?). Go feed some people at a homeless shelter and see how our Department of Veteran's Affairs leaves those that should be heroes behind to deal with debilitating psychological disorders without a shred of help.
Either grow a heart and start being a part of the solution or shut up and sit down.
Fact: Welfare Costs 1 Percent of the Federal Budget
Widespread misperception about the extent of welfare exacerbate the problems of poverty. The actual cost of welfare programs-about 1 percent of the federal budget and 2 percent of state budgets (McLaughlin, 1997)-is proportionally less than generally believed. During the 104th Congress, more than 93 percent of the budget reductions in welfare entitlements came from programs for low-income people (Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, 1996). Ironically, middle-class and wealthy Americans also receive "welfare" in the form of tax deductions for home mortgages, corporate and farm subsidies, capital gains tax limits, Social Security, Medicare, and a multitude of other tax benefits. Yet these types of assistance carry no stigma and are rarely considered "welfare" (Goodgame, 1993). Anti-welfare sentiment appears to be related to attitudes about class and widely shared and socially sanctioned stereotypes about the poor. Racism also fuels negative attitudes toward welfare programs (Quadagno, 1994).
Find someone to pick on besides those that are scraping by. Keep in mind that the defense budget is 54% of the federal budget in the US. I'd much rather feed hungry people than shoot them.
Yep, because they don't work on my Ubuntu x86_64 installation when it hangs on "Checking Browser Plugin". We use some webstart stuff internally. I use some java apps at home (none that use webstart, but stuff certainly works, and I know the failure modes for ff and webstart as I had to hack my work ff install to autolaunch java webstarts rather than save the text file to the desktop which is the default behavior in a lot of versions of the jre).
Web conferencing such as WebEx and Lotus Sametime. (My corp uses both and I can't get into the damned things from my home laptop before now. Yay teleconferences on the couch.)
then theres j2me, and i'd wager if you have any tivo type device, or even set-top box for your cable service, or blu-ray player, or most mobile phones these days, then you have java working for you there too.
I can't believe you would point out those unresponsive steaming piles to try and support your point. Cable settop boxes (especially the DVR's) are the WORST examples of badly implemented UI's and schedulers that I have run across. THE POINT OF THE DEVICE IS TO RESPOND TO REMOTE CONROL INPUT, AND RECORD PROGRAMMING. EVERY SINGLE ONE DOES NEITHER RELIABLY (I'VE USED MULTIPLE IMPLEMENTATIONS OF THEM FROM COX CABLE IN NEBRASKA, COMCAST IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, AND FORMERLY INSIGHT COMMUNICATIONS IN CENTRAL ILLINOIS)
And how many record labels are based in Canada out of curiosity? Oh, also while we're at it, what percentage of the music buying public lives in Canada?
Does anyone else find it ironic that a F/LOSS advocate (as I am as well) uses a blogspot blog as his face to the world? Way to advocate there buddy! Spread that message on a closed platform!
You're ignoring the fact that it may not be the SAME small guy that comes into the market. If I'm an entrepeneur with some family money or some other funding source and I see an obviously inflated market that I can go after on cost, guess what business I'm going into? (this is probably responding to the wrong parent, but I already typed it, so:p)
If they don't want it accessible they shouldn't leave a static link to it lying around. Its THEIR problem to monetize their business model, not MY problem as a consumer. Consumers should get EVERYTHING they can from the companies that compete for their business/attention, its what stimulates innovation and makes businesses run efficiently. If we all became so "sensitive" to the poor business's "needs" they'd just whine for money like the automakers.
On linking to the "Printable Article" rather than 6 pages of 3 sentences each (I'm assuming since I didn't bother to look) that is the standard format for Information Week!
Comprehend what you read. I said HAD me not ASKED me. She ASKED me for a solution (as I mentioned later in the same post) and listened to my advice. Now she's happily using Ubuntu on her machine and Norton can go to hell. Simply because the appropriate hardware is not available with the correct OS preinstalled isn't her fault. Luckily she had someone who could offer her a solution other than bogging down an Atom processor based machine with Norton.
Yes, but if you make the attack vector more costly either in physical resources (forcing it to snail mail), time (forcing it back into phone calls), or effort (having to find a legitimate mail server that will relay your ridiculous amounts of messages), it will drastically improve. Its not new, but Windows botnets have certainly raised it to new heights.
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Or if you're just an asshole in general I'll feel free to. See above.
K, then I won't bother calling the fire department when your house is ablaze, or the police when you've been robbed, oh and those sewer lines we can easily shut off, as well as the trash collection you've got subsidized, lets just tell them to stop dropping by. There, now see how fucking self-reliant you are. Oh, and maybe you ought to be paying 1-200% more for those crops we're subsidizing for you to eat.
You're a douche.
Yep you earned your money which means it ought to be taxed. You're getting welfare, but its uncomfortable. Deal.
I'll say this real slow so you understand:
UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE IS NOT WELFARE.
It's paid for out of the checks of the workers (and then funneled into the programs by the federal government) that's why its called unemployment INSURANCE. This is the biggest crock of shit that the blame the victim "personal responsibility" crowd needs to get over. Its just as much welfare as your HEALTH insurance is.
Aside from the fact that most people who actually WORK for a living can't afford two homes (or to try and flip property), and the fact that I was specifically mentioning the situation that you had to sell a home to RELOCATE FOR WORK, not as a SHORT TERM INVESTMENT (nice attempted dodge there, but lets deal with the situation at hand) when someone deflates the value of your home due to lack of maintenance (ever wonder why when a bunch of renters move in the values go down, or when a bunch of houses get repo'd by the bank the values go down, or when someone lets their home become an eyesore?) it makes it difficult to have the portability of equity that is an attractive facet of home ownership. Where in ANY of that did the idea of a home as a short term investment get raised? No one's looking for profit, just for the money you put in to come back to you. If I get laid off (or you for that matter) and have to move elsewhere to find work, its not because of your investment strategy or anything else, its simply life. Most people have to relocate several times in their adult lives to stay gainfully employed.
Your strawmen are chewy and flammable.
More FUD:
I agree with most of your post, but its just not true that people abusing the system is widespread or common. Its the safety net that we put in place so that poor people aren't desperate enough to rob, murder, rape, and steal. Look at it as self-interested protection money, because the mob is much bigger than you. (If you're that heartless that you can't just do without a few pennies a week so that starving people can eat.) (That last part is directed at the GP)
That just compounds the problem (and avoids the issue at hand, but that's your tactic when you can't address the issue).
How bad will you feel when you need to sell your house to relocate for work? Seems like a property value reduction will suck then. And you're dreaming if you think tax valuations take anything remotely like that into account properly. Here, have a clue.
However, when my neighbor gets so fat he can't mow his lawn, clean his gutters, paint his house, take out his trash, etc he is harming my property by reducing its value. So, should I wait until I have to get his ass on a treadmill so he'll maintain his property or should I just nip the hamburger problem in the bud before it gets out of hand?
So you'd rather preach, be self-righteous, and let people starve than deal with the REAL problems that are out there? I hate this "personal responsibility" crap. I am personally responsible. So are many people that get laid off and take advantage of the Unemployment Insurance that they PAY for out of their checks. The idea that somehow people in the past were more responsible, or educated, or hardworking is just plain crap. Every time the financial markets get deregulated, predatory lending takes off, and everyone ends up broke. The idea that somehow uneducated consumers that haven't dealt their whole lives with complex financial instruments that many of the people selling them don't even fully grasp is blaming the victim.
Why don't you take the energy used to create all that hot air and use it to make some positive changes in the world? Volunteer doing literacy training so that someone who "didn't pay attention in school" can get a shot at life and be productive members of society (since you understand that's what the VAST MAJORITY of them want to do?). Go feed some people at a homeless shelter and see how our Department of Veteran's Affairs leaves those that should be heroes behind to deal with debilitating psychological disorders without a shred of help.
Either grow a heart and start being a part of the solution or shut up and sit down.
I call bullshit:
source: http://www.apa.org/pi/wpo/myths.html
Find someone to pick on besides those that are scraping by. Keep in mind that the defense budget is 54% of the federal budget in the US. I'd much rather feed hungry people than shoot them.
source: http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm
ahh. I'm not plugged into the Apple or Windows world at all anymore (never was plugged into Apple).
Yep, because they don't work on my Ubuntu x86_64 installation when it hangs on "Checking Browser Plugin". We use some webstart stuff internally. I use some java apps at home (none that use webstart, but stuff certainly works, and I know the failure modes for ff and webstart as I had to hack my work ff install to autolaunch java webstarts rather than save the text file to the desktop which is the default behavior in a lot of versions of the jre).
Educate us non "Mac People", what the HELL does a wifi adapter have to do with burning CD's?
Web conferencing such as WebEx and Lotus Sametime. (My corp uses both and I can't get into the damned things from my home laptop before now. Yay teleconferences on the couch.)
I can't believe you would point out those unresponsive steaming piles to try and support your point. Cable settop boxes (especially the DVR's) are the WORST examples of badly implemented UI's and schedulers that I have run across. THE POINT OF THE DEVICE IS TO RESPOND TO REMOTE CONROL INPUT, AND RECORD PROGRAMMING. EVERY SINGLE ONE DOES NEITHER RELIABLY (I'VE USED MULTIPLE IMPLEMENTATIONS OF THEM FROM COX CABLE IN NEBRASKA, COMCAST IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, AND FORMERLY INSIGHT COMMUNICATIONS IN CENTRAL ILLINOIS)
And how many record labels are based in Canada out of curiosity? Oh, also while we're at it, what percentage of the music buying public lives in Canada?
Shoo.
Screw that, VOLTRON!
Does anyone else find it ironic that a F/LOSS advocate (as I am as well) uses a blogspot blog as his face to the world? Way to advocate there buddy! Spread that message on a closed platform!
Try wordpress.
You're ignoring the fact that it may not be the SAME small guy that comes into the market. If I'm an entrepeneur with some family money or some other funding source and I see an obviously inflated market that I can go after on cost, guess what business I'm going into? (this is probably responding to the wrong parent, but I already typed it, so :p)
Autopagerize doesn't seem to work on the two websites I tried it on. Nice thought though.
If they don't want it accessible they shouldn't leave a static link to it lying around. Its THEIR problem to monetize their business model, not MY problem as a consumer. Consumers should get EVERYTHING they can from the companies that compete for their business/attention, its what stimulates innovation and makes businesses run efficiently. If we all became so "sensitive" to the poor business's "needs" they'd just whine for money like the automakers.
On linking to the "Printable Article" rather than 6 pages of 3 sentences each (I'm assuming since I didn't bother to look) that is the standard format for Information Week!
Comprehend what you read. I said HAD me not ASKED me. She ASKED me for a solution (as I mentioned later in the same post) and listened to my advice. Now she's happily using Ubuntu on her machine and Norton can go to hell. Simply because the appropriate hardware is not available with the correct OS preinstalled isn't her fault. Luckily she had someone who could offer her a solution other than bogging down an Atom processor based machine with Norton.
Yes, but if you make the attack vector more costly either in physical resources (forcing it to snail mail), time (forcing it back into phone calls), or effort (having to find a legitimate mail server that will relay your ridiculous amounts of messages), it will drastically improve. Its not new, but Windows botnets have certainly raised it to new heights.