Therein lies a source of miscommunication. I intentionaly did not single any one group. There are good politicians out there, as you are ready to attest. They might not make the headlines here in Canada, so I'll take your word for it. Just like there are good, honest american people. What I am referring to are the ones who make the headlines in Canada, and the american, something. What's that something? Sometimes I call the American mindset. Societal values, thought process, the proverbial 'American Dream' (although bastardized), etc... Call it what you want, it THAT that I'm referring to. And I don't think I'm being hypocritical at all. If someone is trying to tell you want to do, and they keep at it all the time, and you think that what they are telling is just flat out (for lack of a better word) evil, is it hypocritical to call them evil? I don't think so. Now I'm not saying that all americans are evil and blah blah blah... Far from it. I'm saying that I'm sick of the american politicians and lawmakers trying to tell us canadians what to do and how to run our country. I'm furthering that statement by comparing the rise of the US to the rise of Rome. That's all...
therein lies an issue. I intentionally did not single out anyone. Because there are good politicians out there. Just like there are good american people. And I'm not talking about individuals. Individual people are (for the most part) good, ethical, honest people. I'm talking about society as a whole. Not individual americans, but the american values, or whatever you want to call them. Goal in life, thought process, societal values, general mindset, etc... Call it what you want, THAT is what I'm referring to.
Fuck Me? What the hell? I'm not talking about the many hardworking Americans like you out there. FAR from it. In fact, the ones who bust their asses off are the ones that should be running the country. You believe in those values? Guess what. So do I. The people that I'm talking about are the politicains and lawmakers and corporate fucks who rape and pillage and call it "Democracy". The ones who decide to send out their people to die on foreign soil so that they can get a few more million dollars. THAT is the corruption of a worthwhile belief. The worthwhile belief, in my opinion, is something worth fighting and dying for. Not what's happening now. So you know what? Before you decide to try to ream someone out, you had better read the argument first.
"btw, isn't Canada already kissing industry's butt on this? Didn't they or similar industries adopt laws taxing blank CDs to recoup "piracy" losses?" Oh sure, if you think that getting otherwise free music for a fraction of the blank CD. I think it's a smart decision. But either way, it means I've already paid for my music. That means that my 'pirated' music isn't pirated, it's completely legal. And yeah, there's been lots of pressure from the US since it's inception. But you know what? Those candies you eat right now are just fine. Once you have too many, THAT'S when you get sick. And you know what, my lifetime intake of BS pressure has only now been exceeded. So no, I don't get sick easily. I've just had enough.
Oh yeah... That's right... The bilingual movie 'Bon Cop Bad Cop' was a total failure and didn't make become a worlwide hit for being purely Canadian and the world's first English/French movie. Sorry, I forgot that you guys have a hard enough time using one of those two languages, let alone the other.
Ahhh yes... the Dark Ages. I can't agree with that statement. Nor can I find myself agreeing with the fact the Ages were 'Dark'. In fact, there is much new archeological evidence that is begining to surface that is starting to prove otherwise. And yes. There are many people who wish to see the US fall flat on it's face. Kinda like the one big bad schoolyard bully. Do you want him to be more responsible? Yeah, sure. But it would be a whole hell of a lot more satisfactory to see him crumble to the ground and start crying like a baby.
But if you teach them to be ignorant, won't you be compounding other issues that caused by blind ignorance? Granted, they may be happier for it, but at what point will their ignorance cause the rise of a Fahrenheit 451 type of society? At that point, will they be happier? Or will it just make them more miserable than if they were taught to take action and fight for what's right, and all that crap...
Quite true. The basis that the american dream was built upon are worth striving for. But tell me, where are those values now? I can honestly say that not one of the 'Original' values that the american dream was built upon is still around. Not one. And just like Rome, at one point Rome was the 'perfect' society, built upon the betterment of ALL it's people. And just like Rome, those values have been twisted and corrupted to the point where they no longer exist. And just like Rome, that twisted set of value MUST and WILL come to end.
I'm not picking on Diebold by any means... I just picked their name since I'm Canadian and we don't use eVoting machines and I'm not all that much aware of others because they don't make the news as often or make as big of a headline.
WTF is this??? Once again, the American Senators think they can go about policing the world using blatantly wrong informtion that was provided by people who should not be providing information.
I am sickened by the level of stupidity displayed by the US's lawmakers. These people are either voted into office (and we all know how unhackable the Diebold and other eVoting machines are), or are placed there by people who have other agendas.
What agendas you ask?
The lining of their pockets and subjugation of anyone who doesn't agree with them. I think this happened once before in the course of human history. If I remember correctly, I think this empire was called Rome. Or Roman.
(And yes, I AM being exceedingly sarcastic at this time, since 0.001% of the US Senators will know what Rome was...)
Thankfully, the Roman Empire collapsed on itself when a bunch of crazy people took control. But it started with just one.
And right now, the US has a VERY crazy/insane/retarded President in charge. Perhaps this is the begining of the end...???
I sure hope so.
So the idea is pretty cool... Now that you've got an OpenID, you could go ahead and use that login on whatever else supports OpenID.
The problem lies with the fact that 50% of AOL's userbase doesn't even own a computer. According to some stats that AOL released some time ago...
Why do people COMPETE to work for these companies?
Because they have the market by the balls and have the money to throw into a HUGE production worth $100 million and then to do the marketing and advertising and all that. If it was even REMOTELY possible for Joe Blow to do ANY of that to that kind of extent, you'd see a FLOOD of people leaving Hollywood to work for Joe Blow because Joe Blow can do it just as good, if not better.
That's all it is. Hollywood has the MONEY to throw at movies, not Joe Blow...
nononono... That's FAR from the answer... All someone's going to do is hook up their HD-DVD player to a TV tuner and voila. Problem solved... The only thing that'll stop piracy is to make them free, or worth the money that I'm going to fork out for the product.
Choice eh? So you think that all artists choose to do business with those corporations? Ok, fine. Maybe they chose to go to that specific one, but what were the other choices? So you have option 1 of an evil corporation that offers a ridiculously constrictive contract, or option 2 of a different evil corporation that offers an ever so slightly less constrictive contract. So yeah, they chose that one corporation, but what were the other choices???
And for ticketmaster? Funk dat. Who goes with ticketmaster nowadays anyways? Oh yeah, all those sellouts that get their money regardless. And there's other methods of giving them my money.
And yes. I actually HAVE told one of my favorite artists that I downloaded all their music without paying for it. But I paid cold hard cash to see them live. They hate their company because they don't get nearly as much money as they were told they would. And after having that conversation, I was told by my favorite band that they don't want me to buy their music anyways. And that all the money they make is from concerts and live shows.
Why?
Why are we "ripping off" the artists that we claim to respect?
Honestly, I don't think I am. For the most part, the artists make pennies on the sale of a CD. And I'm not even "stealing" a full CD. Just a song or 2. So I'm "ripping off" my artist by fractions of a penny. Nah, that's not ripping off. I am, however, ripping off these huge evil corporations. And that, I fully support.
If the debate is based on whether or not my favorite artist gets my money, well, the artists get their money from concerts. If the bands didn't suck, they would get more people at their concerts, and then they'd get more money. Either way. If I want to support my favorite artist, I will download their entire discography, not pay a cent for it all (just to show how much I agree with them that these recording companies are mostly pure evil), and then go to their concerts or live shows. THEN they'll be getting my money...
Nah... I would never put a chip in my head that does that.
And I'm pretty sure there would be too many people who would oppose it.
What we REALLY need is Judge Dredd.
THAT will solve the problem then...
IMO, I don't think the watermarking would ever be socially accepted, so I don't think that the watermarking could EVER work, whether or not the **AA chooses to use it.
I think there would be too much questioning involved whether or not those sounds actually affect us. Some people can hear higher pitches than others, some lower. So how could we possibly test every person to see if they can hear it?
So maybe just make the sound so high that it's "supposed" to be beyond any human ears to hear?
On that thought, human combustion, telepathy, ghosts, and all other matter like that is not possible either. Open to debate, yes, but that debate is for another time.
And then you'd have the tin foil affect that maybe it's mind control through subliminal messages. And then Marilyn Manson will be ain a LOT of trouble...
But I think that on a social level, the audio watermark would never pass any kind law...
Myself, *I*, would go through the hassle to program an easy app that will get through ANY DRM just to stick it to the man. I would then flood the planet with it.
I think the idea or DRM is to make intangible, digital media follow the same rules as physical media. For example, you go out and buy a CD, that EXACT CD can't be copied (the contents can be, the digital part). And therein lies the problem.
IMHO, this cannot be done.
If, and I stress the word *IF*, there was some way to have this "perfect", dream DRM, yes, I would go for it. I mean, I DO buy CDs and DVDs. So why would I not pay for the same stuff, just even more conviniently delivered? Just as long as there is ABSOLUTELY NO inconvenience(?) to me.
But there is something that I have not seen any higher-ups address. And that is "Why?"
Why do we refuse to pay for media?
Why do we insist on "stealing" movies and music?
Because the "lawfully" acquired media is useless. I can my DRM song on all of nothing, and my DVD that i downloaded can only be played on my tiny 13 inch monitor. We can't do anything with DRM.
Now this is something that's been mentioned time and time and time again. But if the RIAA and MPAA and all those other idiots had EMBRACED, instead of rejected the new technologies, we wouldn't be in this situation.
Then again, the industries involved wouldn't be making their insane profits either.
So it's greedy idiots with no knowledge of the real world and real people and real situations who get to make the rules. Great. I guess everyone in the US gets to take it in the ass. Good job!
Myself, I'll stay right here in my Canada and enjoy my legally downloaded free music. Maybe in a few years the US will collapse upon itself, and everyone'll move up here to enjoy the freedoms of free music for all!
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Therein lies a source of miscommunication. I intentionaly did not single any one group. There are good politicians out there, as you are ready to attest. They might not make the headlines here in Canada, so I'll take your word for it. Just like there are good, honest american people. What I am referring to are the ones who make the headlines in Canada, and the american, something. What's that something? Sometimes I call the American mindset. Societal values, thought process, the proverbial 'American Dream' (although bastardized), etc... Call it what you want, it THAT that I'm referring to. And I don't think I'm being hypocritical at all. If someone is trying to tell you want to do, and they keep at it all the time, and you think that what they are telling is just flat out (for lack of a better word) evil, is it hypocritical to call them evil? I don't think so. Now I'm not saying that all americans are evil and blah blah blah... Far from it. I'm saying that I'm sick of the american politicians and lawmakers trying to tell us canadians what to do and how to run our country. I'm furthering that statement by comparing the rise of the US to the rise of Rome. That's all...
therein lies an issue. I intentionally did not single out anyone. Because there are good politicians out there. Just like there are good american people. And I'm not talking about individuals. Individual people are (for the most part) good, ethical, honest people. I'm talking about society as a whole. Not individual americans, but the american values, or whatever you want to call them. Goal in life, thought process, societal values, general mindset, etc... Call it what you want, THAT is what I'm referring to.
Fuck Me? What the hell? I'm not talking about the many hardworking Americans like you out there. FAR from it. In fact, the ones who bust their asses off are the ones that should be running the country. You believe in those values? Guess what. So do I. The people that I'm talking about are the politicains and lawmakers and corporate fucks who rape and pillage and call it "Democracy". The ones who decide to send out their people to die on foreign soil so that they can get a few more million dollars. THAT is the corruption of a worthwhile belief. The worthwhile belief, in my opinion, is something worth fighting and dying for. Not what's happening now. So you know what? Before you decide to try to ream someone out, you had better read the argument first.
"btw, isn't Canada already kissing industry's butt on this? Didn't they or similar industries adopt laws taxing blank CDs to recoup "piracy" losses?" Oh sure, if you think that getting otherwise free music for a fraction of the blank CD. I think it's a smart decision. But either way, it means I've already paid for my music. That means that my 'pirated' music isn't pirated, it's completely legal. And yeah, there's been lots of pressure from the US since it's inception. But you know what? Those candies you eat right now are just fine. Once you have too many, THAT'S when you get sick. And you know what, my lifetime intake of BS pressure has only now been exceeded. So no, I don't get sick easily. I've just had enough.
Oh yeah... That's right... The bilingual movie 'Bon Cop Bad Cop' was a total failure and didn't make become a worlwide hit for being purely Canadian and the world's first English/French movie. Sorry, I forgot that you guys have a hard enough time using one of those two languages, let alone the other.
Ahhh yes... the Dark Ages. I can't agree with that statement. Nor can I find myself agreeing with the fact the Ages were 'Dark'. In fact, there is much new archeological evidence that is begining to surface that is starting to prove otherwise. And yes. There are many people who wish to see the US fall flat on it's face. Kinda like the one big bad schoolyard bully. Do you want him to be more responsible? Yeah, sure. But it would be a whole hell of a lot more satisfactory to see him crumble to the ground and start crying like a baby.
But if you teach them to be ignorant, won't you be compounding other issues that caused by blind ignorance? Granted, they may be happier for it, but at what point will their ignorance cause the rise of a Fahrenheit 451 type of society? At that point, will they be happier? Or will it just make them more miserable than if they were taught to take action and fight for what's right, and all that crap...
Quite true. The basis that the american dream was built upon are worth striving for. But tell me, where are those values now? I can honestly say that not one of the 'Original' values that the american dream was built upon is still around. Not one. And just like Rome, at one point Rome was the 'perfect' society, built upon the betterment of ALL it's people. And just like Rome, those values have been twisted and corrupted to the point where they no longer exist. And just like Rome, that twisted set of value MUST and WILL come to end.
Hmmm... Have you seen Mike Judge's new movie, Idiocracy? I'm afraid of what the future may hold if you're right...
I'm not picking on Diebold by any means... I just picked their name since I'm Canadian and we don't use eVoting machines and I'm not all that much aware of others because they don't make the news as often or make as big of a headline.
WTF is this??? Once again, the American Senators think they can go about policing the world using blatantly wrong informtion that was provided by people who should not be providing information. I am sickened by the level of stupidity displayed by the US's lawmakers. These people are either voted into office (and we all know how unhackable the Diebold and other eVoting machines are), or are placed there by people who have other agendas. What agendas you ask? The lining of their pockets and subjugation of anyone who doesn't agree with them. I think this happened once before in the course of human history. If I remember correctly, I think this empire was called Rome. Or Roman. (And yes, I AM being exceedingly sarcastic at this time, since 0.001% of the US Senators will know what Rome was...) Thankfully, the Roman Empire collapsed on itself when a bunch of crazy people took control. But it started with just one. And right now, the US has a VERY crazy/insane/retarded President in charge. Perhaps this is the begining of the end...??? I sure hope so.
So the idea is pretty cool... Now that you've got an OpenID, you could go ahead and use that login on whatever else supports OpenID. The problem lies with the fact that 50% of AOL's userbase doesn't even own a computer. According to some stats that AOL released some time ago...
Why do people COMPETE to work for these companies? Because they have the market by the balls and have the money to throw into a HUGE production worth $100 million and then to do the marketing and advertising and all that. If it was even REMOTELY possible for Joe Blow to do ANY of that to that kind of extent, you'd see a FLOOD of people leaving Hollywood to work for Joe Blow because Joe Blow can do it just as good, if not better. That's all it is. Hollywood has the MONEY to throw at movies, not Joe Blow...
nononono... That's FAR from the answer... All someone's going to do is hook up their HD-DVD player to a TV tuner and voila. Problem solved... The only thing that'll stop piracy is to make them free, or worth the money that I'm going to fork out for the product.
Choice eh? So you think that all artists choose to do business with those corporations? Ok, fine. Maybe they chose to go to that specific one, but what were the other choices? So you have option 1 of an evil corporation that offers a ridiculously constrictive contract, or option 2 of a different evil corporation that offers an ever so slightly less constrictive contract. So yeah, they chose that one corporation, but what were the other choices???
And for ticketmaster? Funk dat. Who goes with ticketmaster nowadays anyways? Oh yeah, all those sellouts that get their money regardless. And there's other methods of giving them my money.
And yes. I actually HAVE told one of my favorite artists that I downloaded all their music without paying for it. But I paid cold hard cash to see them live. They hate their company because they don't get nearly as much money as they were told they would. And after having that conversation, I was told by my favorite band that they don't want me to buy their music anyways. And that all the money they make is from concerts and live shows.
And THAT is my point...
Why? Why are we "ripping off" the artists that we claim to respect? Honestly, I don't think I am. For the most part, the artists make pennies on the sale of a CD. And I'm not even "stealing" a full CD. Just a song or 2. So I'm "ripping off" my artist by fractions of a penny. Nah, that's not ripping off. I am, however, ripping off these huge evil corporations. And that, I fully support. If the debate is based on whether or not my favorite artist gets my money, well, the artists get their money from concerts. If the bands didn't suck, they would get more people at their concerts, and then they'd get more money. Either way. If I want to support my favorite artist, I will download their entire discography, not pay a cent for it all (just to show how much I agree with them that these recording companies are mostly pure evil), and then go to their concerts or live shows. THEN they'll be getting my money...
Nah... I would never put a chip in my head that does that. And I'm pretty sure there would be too many people who would oppose it. What we REALLY need is Judge Dredd. THAT will solve the problem then...
IMO, I don't think the watermarking would ever be socially accepted, so I don't think that the watermarking could EVER work, whether or not the **AA chooses to use it. I think there would be too much questioning involved whether or not those sounds actually affect us. Some people can hear higher pitches than others, some lower. So how could we possibly test every person to see if they can hear it? So maybe just make the sound so high that it's "supposed" to be beyond any human ears to hear? On that thought, human combustion, telepathy, ghosts, and all other matter like that is not possible either. Open to debate, yes, but that debate is for another time. And then you'd have the tin foil affect that maybe it's mind control through subliminal messages. And then Marilyn Manson will be ain a LOT of trouble... But I think that on a social level, the audio watermark would never pass any kind law...
But you know what???
Myself, *I*, would go through the hassle to program an easy app that will get through ANY DRM just to stick it to the man. I would then flood the planet with it.
And yes, I WOULD do it just to prove a point.
I think the idea or DRM is to make intangible, digital media follow the same rules as physical media. For example, you go out and buy a CD, that EXACT CD can't be copied (the contents can be, the digital part). And therein lies the problem. IMHO, this cannot be done. If, and I stress the word *IF*, there was some way to have this "perfect", dream DRM, yes, I would go for it. I mean, I DO buy CDs and DVDs. So why would I not pay for the same stuff, just even more conviniently delivered? Just as long as there is ABSOLUTELY NO inconvenience(?) to me. But there is something that I have not seen any higher-ups address. And that is "Why?" Why do we refuse to pay for media? Why do we insist on "stealing" movies and music? Because the "lawfully" acquired media is useless. I can my DRM song on all of nothing, and my DVD that i downloaded can only be played on my tiny 13 inch monitor. We can't do anything with DRM. Now this is something that's been mentioned time and time and time again. But if the RIAA and MPAA and all those other idiots had EMBRACED, instead of rejected the new technologies, we wouldn't be in this situation. Then again, the industries involved wouldn't be making their insane profits either. So it's greedy idiots with no knowledge of the real world and real people and real situations who get to make the rules. Great. I guess everyone in the US gets to take it in the ass. Good job! Myself, I'll stay right here in my Canada and enjoy my legally downloaded free music. Maybe in a few years the US will collapse upon itself, and everyone'll move up here to enjoy the freedoms of free music for all!