Or the DBish format of Cyrus. Or Netmail. Or a 100 line Perl, one table MySQL script. Or, fuck, even Exchange or Groupwise. But for the love of of all the is holy, not mbox.
I guess the battle ground then is Gnome vs Time and Mono vs Time. Can/will they built a GTK front end onto yast before the qt fe starts to rot away to... at the very least, uglyness (where ugly is defined as incosistant)? Can/will they rebuild ConsoleOne and/or iManager in Mono? Hell, C1 doesnt even support all objects and attributes then did nwadmin; some snapins for C1 (Im looking at you, zfd) are Windows only, which may or may not mean they are written in Java.
And its not just a matter of uglyness/inconsistancy. You only have finite numbers of developers, with finite skill sets. You can only maintain a finite number of core libs for a finite number of platforms. At Novell you cant just say "Support the management of existing products and features with c1 and imanager; new products are managed with our new Mono thingy" because both c1 and imanager are supposed to be the all-in-one management tool (I think they come reasonably close to an all-in-two toolset).
Over the last month or so I've been demoing ZENWorks (for desktops). "Out of the box", installing the management component of zfd on Linux (OES/SUSE), it installs sybase as the backend for the inventory database. Documentation describs how to configure the inventory system to use Oracle and MSSQL on Windows, with ODBC. This is undocumented on the Linux side, which might indicate its not possible to use an alternative DB, or at least that its not supported.
Novell Audit, out of the box, supports MySQL, which is to say that the install process will install mysql, and the documentation covers configuring mysql, in addition to configuring Audit to use it. The documentation covers using Oracle, MSSQL, and JDBC in general, which is to say configuring Audit to use them.
So which is it, Novell? Is your default database of choice MySQL, or Sybase? If MySQL is good enough for a secure logging system, surely it is good enough for deskop inventory. Why do you think its a good idea to bundle YA database with ZFD when you know that the two linux distros you supoort (SUSE9 and OES1) ship with MySQL?
Novell definitly has a lot of internal struggles going on (gnome/kde, java/mono), but it should at least be able to provide a consistent level of inconsistencies.
Zero for non-commercial (personal) use. If you used Netscape on a business desktop, you were supposed to pay for it. I suppose if you look hard enough, you might find someone who actually did.
Helix is even less open then is Java. At least with Java, I neither have to create an account to download it, nor do I have to put up with extra ad-infested crap when I install it. Its been a long time since Ive seen a site as unhelpfull as is helixcommunity. They arn't even trying.
I always liken it to Saturday Night Live. Every time you come/watch you say to yourself "damm, I remember back in the day when this was good". And then you realized that it always sucked.
Well, if they had a pile of calenders behind the desk, with a sign above it that said "free calenders for customers", and then you said "hey, give me one of those", and you were not a customer, then that would be stealing.
If a requirement for theft of service be that you were given control of that system, then people who get "free" cable are not stealing. Thats absurd.
I would wager that that is interperted rather widely. Consider:
No control: C->S NTP Please S:
Control: C->S NTP Please S: NTP response
One has all the control you need to steal the service. In this case, its just asking for it - an overt act. The server isnt sending out unsolocited NTP responses. The client controls the server in when a service is provided. (this is, of course, almost the definition of a client/server system).
Is "Charity". CCRA registered Charities may issue tax receipts for dontations, and are exempt from income tax. Anything less then a registered charity, so far as the CCRA is concerned, is just another business and subject to regular tax rules. Tax on $0 profit is $0, it is illogical to have a special class for "non profits"
Non-profit groups are usually registered as a "Society" under provincal law. Such registration may or may not change their provincal tax status.
Just for the record, the Pentium Pro did not have MMX support. Said instructions were introduced in the (supprise) Pentium MMX processor, about two years after the Pro.
I guess people like that are the reason why I will never be the CTO of a large corporation. Within 5 minutes of some asshat sending out a message like that, I would be at their desk, with security: "You have to leave the building now. You no longer work here. No, it would seem that it is impossible for me to explain it to you".
They would be the best solution if child windows opened up in their respective desktops, not your current one. Without that feature, multiple desktops are just the least bad of the solutions.
Harper, as the PM, hasn't yet been in a Question Period, let alone tried to pass any bills into law. Public opinion is that the Canadian Senate is rubber stamps everything that the get and thus pointless. While as a minority government, Harpers crew couldnt likely pass, say, a bill utilizing the notwithstanding clause outlawing gay marrage, if they were a majority government they likely could get it past the HoC. It would be almost worth while for this to have happened, just to see the majority Liberal Senate reject it.
Netmail is the commercial product on which Hula is based. Things like eDir integration was ripped out of it before the source was thrust oppon the world.
If anything, the high end cards would have less features, running slower. Consumer grade stuff sacrifices accuracy for speed, whereas the high end stuff is meant to be correct.
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Or the DBish format of Cyrus. Or Netmail. Or a 100 line Perl, one table MySQL script. Or, fuck, even Exchange or Groupwise. But for the love of of all the is holy, not mbox.
I guess the battle ground then is Gnome vs Time and Mono vs Time. Can/will they built a GTK front end onto yast before the qt fe starts to rot away to ... at the very least, uglyness (where ugly is defined as incosistant)? Can/will they rebuild ConsoleOne and/or iManager in Mono? Hell, C1 doesnt even support all objects and attributes then did nwadmin; some snapins for C1 (Im looking at you, zfd) are Windows only, which may or may not mean they are written in Java.
And its not just a matter of uglyness/inconsistancy. You only have finite numbers of developers, with finite skill sets. You can only maintain a finite number of core libs for a finite number of platforms. At Novell you cant just say "Support the management of existing products and features with c1 and imanager; new products are managed with our new Mono thingy" because both c1 and imanager are supposed to be the all-in-one management tool (I think they come reasonably close to an all-in-two toolset).
Over the last month or so I've been demoing ZENWorks (for desktops). "Out of the box", installing the management component of zfd on Linux (OES/SUSE), it installs sybase as the backend for the inventory database. Documentation describs how to configure the inventory system to use Oracle and MSSQL on Windows, with ODBC. This is undocumented on the Linux side, which might indicate its not possible to use an alternative DB, or at least that its not supported.
Novell Audit, out of the box, supports MySQL, which is to say that the install process will install mysql, and the documentation covers configuring mysql, in addition to configuring Audit to use it. The documentation covers using Oracle, MSSQL, and JDBC in general, which is to say configuring Audit to use them.
So which is it, Novell? Is your default database of choice MySQL, or Sybase? If MySQL is good enough for a secure logging system, surely it is good enough for deskop inventory. Why do you think its a good idea to bundle YA database with ZFD when you know that the two linux distros you supoort (SUSE9 and OES1) ship with MySQL?
Novell definitly has a lot of internal struggles going on (gnome/kde, java/mono), but it should at least be able to provide a consistent level of inconsistencies.
Zero for non-commercial (personal) use. If you used Netscape on a business desktop, you were supposed to pay for it. I suppose if you look hard enough, you might find someone who actually did.
I dont know about you, but if I ordered a 635g burger, and only got 113g of meat, Id be some upset.
Helix is even less open then is Java. At least with Java, I neither have to create an account to download it, nor do I have to put up with extra ad-infested crap when I install it. Its been a long time since Ive seen a site as unhelpfull as is helixcommunity. They arn't even trying.
To where? What commercial/enterprise distro is pushing KDE, with it being the more equal desktop?
I always liken it to Saturday Night Live. Every time you come/watch you say to yourself "damm, I remember back in the day when this was good". And then you realized that it always sucked.
SUSE, versions 9.x or less. Novell is no longer focusing on KDE. Its still supported, but all the interesting things are happening with Gnome.
Well, if they had a pile of calenders behind the desk, with a sign above it that said "free calenders for customers", and then you said "hey, give me one of those", and you were not a customer, then that would be stealing. If a requirement for theft of service be that you were given control of that system, then people who get "free" cable are not stealing. Thats absurd.
I would wager that that is interperted rather widely. Consider:
No control:
C->S NTP Please
S:
Control:
C->S NTP Please
S: NTP response
One has all the control you need to steal the service. In this case, its just asking for it - an overt act. The server isnt sending out unsolocited NTP responses. The client controls the server in when a service is provided. (this is, of course, almost the definition of a client/server system).
Burlington Coat Factory? I would think that 'ol Bill would be boycotting that place and anything within a mile of their locations.
Is "Charity". CCRA registered Charities may issue tax receipts for dontations, and are exempt from income tax. Anything less then a registered charity, so far as the CCRA is concerned, is just another business and subject to regular tax rules. Tax on $0 profit is $0, it is illogical to have a special class for "non profits"
Non-profit groups are usually registered as a "Society" under provincal law. Such registration may or may not change their provincal tax status.
Just for the record, the Pentium Pro did not have MMX support. Said instructions were introduced in the (supprise) Pentium MMX processor, about two years after the Pro.
I guess people like that are the reason why I will never be the CTO of a large corporation. Within 5 minutes of some asshat sending out a message like that, I would be at their desk, with security: "You have to leave the building now. You no longer work here. No, it would seem that it is impossible for me to explain it to you".
And South Africa was at least partial settled by the Dutch. (see Boer War)
OTOH, you could be published by SAMS, and blacklisted from employment everywhere.
I have one Ill sell you for $1.1 million, and I'll include brown paper and string, and shipping! Some places charge $200k for that alone!
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(thats what, a 30 year old MAD reference?)
They would be the best solution if child windows opened up in their respective desktops, not your current one. Without that feature, multiple desktops are just the least bad of the solutions.
Harper, as the PM, hasn't yet been in a Question Period, let alone tried to pass any bills into law. Public opinion is that the Canadian Senate is rubber stamps everything that the get and thus pointless. While as a minority government, Harpers crew couldnt likely pass, say, a bill utilizing the notwithstanding clause outlawing gay marrage, if they were a majority government they likely could get it past the HoC. It would be almost worth while for this to have happened, just to see the majority Liberal Senate reject it.
Netmail is the commercial product on which Hula is based. Things like eDir integration was ripped out of it before the source was thrust oppon the world.
l links to two (somewhat dated) comparisions of GW and Netmail. 3.5 supports iCal, for example. http://www.novell.com/products/netmail/features.ht ml is the up to date list of what Netmail offers.
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/11059.htm
Did you look at netmail and/or hula?
If anything, the high end cards would have less features, running slower. Consumer grade stuff sacrifices accuracy for speed, whereas the high end stuff is meant to be correct.
Just the kernel, at least untill the next gen chips from Intel and AMD come out.
Clearly the successor to Ingress should be Outgress. Hell, if they cant get that right.... :-)