The difference between configuring sendmail and configuring postfix is like the difference between banging your head on the wall and having sex with the most beautiful woman on earth.
Somebody will pay you to bang your head on the wall?
No, we're talking about the lsh that does do X forwarding. And port forwarding. You can even tell it to just open a connection and not spawn a shell, in case you need just the port forwarding.
You're talking about the client. You're responding to a post about the server.
From the web page for the project:
"Convenient tunneling of X was one of the most impressive features of the original ssh programs. The current version of lsh implements X-forwarding, although the lshd server doesn't provide that service yet."
Even though there is no patch available (yet), this heads-up is extremely valuable, as it allows people who cannot afford to be compromised to shut down or appropriately filter SSH on their systems.
If you're responsible enough to do that, you aren't hearing about this first on Slashdot.
We don't rue the loss of the welder's job, the steelworker's job, the woodworker's job, the craftsman's job, the accountants job, when a machine makes it unnecessary.
That's because we mostly aren't welders, steelworkers, woodworkers, craftsmen, or accountants; we're mostly the guys who make the machines.
Ironically, a good many of us continually rue the loss of the machine-makers' jobs to people willing to do them for far less money in India.
The problem is the propensity of Americans to drive SUVs that they don't need to be driving. A Civic Hybrid against another car of it's own size class will do really well and you won't end up dead in it.
Trucks. Semis. Large cars.
Against all of those things, small fuel-efficient cars are deathtraps. SUVs are safer.
I just saw the aftermath of an SUV driving out onto I-4 at a 90-degree angle in front of a car-carrier semi; it was an attempted murder-suicide. The kids lived. If it had been a Prius, their father would have managed to kill 3 of 4 kids this morning, instead of only 1 of 4.
(He attempted to drown the other two near my office. One lived.)
Nice editing job there, replacing the "56" with a "103" and the "26" with a "49".
You did similar shit on the other numbers.
Interestingly, you left the Miata numbers as they were reported. I find this interesting because it clearly shows more Miata owners die than Explorer 4-door owners.
My wife was rearended in her camry by a cherokee, which had been rear ended by an explorer.
Right; the two vehicles involved in the accident got damaged severely. Your wife's car, which got bumped after most of the energy was spent, got scratched.
If you have tons of kids and diaper bags, why not buy a wagon?
Deaths per million drivers:
Ford Explorer: 56, 26 by rollover
Subaru Outback wagon: 74, 18 by rollover Saturn SW: 63, 6 by rollover
More likely to roll over; less likely to die.
Of course, the really large vans are even safer, but we're talking about comparisons to fuel-efficient cars here. The big vans are just as heavy as the SUVs, and do just as much damage to the guy you run into. Further, you're sitting lower to the ground than the SUV, so your ability to predict a crash is lowered.
and then if you get into in accident with your hybrid SUV, the other guy is dead. yeah, great idea . . . having that on my concious is a great alternative.
Knowing that the other guy is dead because he did something stupid, and my kids are alive because I bought a big car? I think I can live with that.
They built an entire company around selling Windows browser-based applications. They are not going to just dry up and blow away because they made some money, and they are not going to make it impossible to have any customers for their products anymore.
That's a separate negotiation - and Eolas can name any figure they want - $1, $100 billion, or even "Nope, sorry - you can't use this technology Microsoft no matter how much money you throw at us."
While they technically CAN do that, they won't. They won't pass up free money.
What they would do is set a fee Microsoft could pay, so that Microsoft WILL pay. The only question will be do they set it low enough that Opera et. al. can pay, or do they set it high enough that only Microsoft can pay? What brings them more money? Regardless, they will set a price Microsoft will be willing to pay, because otherwise they don't make a dime.
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No, finite but unbounded. There is no edge; the light goes on forever, but if you could go faster than light, you'd end up where you started eventually.
And, since there is not infinite mass, there may be some paths that never intersect an object. Since the universe is expanding, there are more of them over time, not less.
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Sure it does, if you assume the universe is infinate, eventually it's going to be blocked by a planet or moon or asteroid or nebula or sucked into a black hole or some kind of magical space jibber jabber.
Why would you assume it's infinite, though? Most of the scientific community at this point agrees it's finite but unbounded, don't they?
The advantage of that theory is that it gives me an equally valid claim on the being the center of the universe as anyplace else.
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The difference between configuring sendmail and configuring postfix is like the difference between banging your head on the wall and having sex with the most beautiful woman on earth.
Somebody will pay you to bang your head on the wall?
BTW, no way.
Yesterday was the day of openssh, and today for sendmail (whats next? bind? apache?)
Based on recent events, I'd venture that what's next is sendmail again, followed by OpenSSH, followed by sendmail 3 or 4 more times.
No, we're talking about the lsh that does do X forwarding. And port forwarding. You can even tell it to just open a connection and not spawn a shell, in case you need just the port forwarding.
You're talking about the client. You're responding to a post about the server.
From the web page for the project:
"Convenient tunneling of X was one of the most impressive features of the original ssh programs. The current version of lsh implements X-forwarding, although the lshd server doesn't provide that service yet."
How did you get modded up for that?
Are we talking about the same lsh? The one that doesn't do X forwarding in the server?
That's a real step forward in security; make everybody go back to opening up X to TCP. Time to dust off xkey.c I guess...
You're right, I just checked the source, and it isn't.
My bad. Sorry.
Grrr. It is not. Maybe. Damn thing is unclear.
Time to go look at the fscking source.
I don't think this is the fixed version though.
it is.
Not in unstable as of 12:30 PM.
apt-cache policy ssh
ssh:
Installed: 1:3.6.1p2-6
Candidate: 1:3.6.1p2-6
Get a better mirror.
Just because a port is open, that does not mean an actual app is there to exploit.
Welcome to two stories ago.
A demonstration would be nice.
:-)
It'd serve you right if he gave you one.
Even though there is no patch available (yet), this heads-up is extremely valuable, as it allows people who cannot afford to be compromised to shut down or appropriately filter SSH on their systems.
If you're responsible enough to do that, you aren't hearing about this first on Slashdot.
We don't rue the loss of the welder's job, the steelworker's job, the woodworker's job, the craftsman's job, the accountants job, when a machine makes it unnecessary.
That's because we mostly aren't welders, steelworkers, woodworkers, craftsmen, or accountants; we're mostly the guys who make the machines.
Ironically, a good many of us continually rue the loss of the machine-makers' jobs to people willing to do them for far less money in India.
The problem is the propensity of Americans to drive SUVs that they don't need to be driving. A Civic Hybrid against another car of it's own size class will do really well and you won't end up dead in it.
Trucks. Semis. Large cars.
Against all of those things, small fuel-efficient cars are deathtraps. SUVs are safer.
I just saw the aftermath of an SUV driving out onto I-4 at a 90-degree angle in front of a car-carrier semi; it was an attempted murder-suicide. The kids lived. If it had been a Prius, their father would have managed to kill 3 of 4 kids this morning, instead of only 1 of 4.
(He attempted to drown the other two near my office. One lived.)
Ford Explorer 4dr: 103 - 49 roll
Nice editing job there, replacing the "56" with a "103" and the "26" with a "49".
You did similar shit on the other numbers.
Interestingly, you left the Miata numbers as they were reported. I find this interesting because it clearly shows more Miata owners die than Explorer 4-door owners.
My wife was rearended in her camry by a cherokee, which had been rear ended by an explorer.
Right; the two vehicles involved in the accident got damaged severely. Your wife's car, which got bumped after most of the energy was spent, got scratched.
This proves what?
Chevy S10 Blazer 4dr: 195 - 102 from rollover!
WTF do small pickup trucks have to do with it? Those things are the MOST deadly vehicles on the road.
No, the Ford Explorer rolls over as well.
If you have tons of kids and diaper bags, why not buy a wagon?
Deaths per million drivers:
Ford Explorer: 56, 26 by rollover
Subaru Outback wagon: 74, 18 by rollover
Saturn SW: 63, 6 by rollover
More likely to roll over; less likely to die.
Of course, the really large vans are even safer, but we're talking about comparisons to fuel-efficient cars here. The big vans are just as heavy as the SUVs, and do just as much damage to the guy you run into. Further, you're sitting lower to the ground than the SUV, so your ability to predict a crash is lowered.
and then if you get into in accident with your hybrid SUV, the other guy is dead. yeah, great idea . . . having that on my concious is a great alternative.
Knowing that the other guy is dead because he did something stupid, and my kids are alive because I bought a big car? I think I can live with that.
SUVs roll over. Haven't you noticed? You're more likely to get into an accident with one.
On the contrary, the statistics show that the smaller cars are far more likely to kill you. But I'm sure you won't let facts sway you.
I take it that you've ignored the reports on the rollover problems that plague SUVs.
No, I've ignored the hysteria and idiotic reporting that has come with them.
According to actual science, you're more likely to die if you get into an accident in a small, fuel-efficient car.
Deaths per million drivers:
Ford Expedition: 39
Chevy Suburban: 53
Honda Civic Coupe: 68
Hyundai Accent coupe: 177
Toyota Corolla: 86
Nissan Sentra: 100
Less than 3% of crashes involve rollovers. I'm more worried about the other 97%.
They're teeny tiny little pieces of crap. If you get into an accident you're dead.
When they make a hybrid SUV I'll be willing to listen.
They built an entire company around selling Windows browser-based applications. They are not going to just dry up and blow away because they made some money, and they are not going to make it impossible to have any customers for their products anymore.
That's a separate negotiation - and Eolas can name any figure they want - $1, $100 billion, or even "Nope, sorry - you can't use this technology Microsoft no matter how much money you throw at us."
While they technically CAN do that, they won't. They won't pass up free money.
What they would do is set a fee Microsoft could pay, so that Microsoft WILL pay. The only question will be do they set it low enough that Opera et. al. can pay, or do they set it high enough that only Microsoft can pay? What brings them more money? Regardless, they will set a price Microsoft will be willing to pay, because otherwise they don't make a dime.
No, finite but unbounded. There is no edge; the light goes on forever, but if you could go faster than light, you'd end up where you started eventually.
And, since there is not infinite mass, there may be some paths that never intersect an object. Since the universe is expanding, there are more of them over time, not less.
Sure it does, if you assume the universe is infinate, eventually it's going to be blocked by a planet or moon or asteroid or nebula or sucked into a black hole or some kind of magical space jibber jabber.
Why would you assume it's infinite, though? Most of the scientific community at this point agrees it's finite but unbounded, don't they?
The advantage of that theory is that it gives me an equally valid claim on the being the center of the universe as anyplace else.