And incidentally, you should specify which sobig you are talking about.
No, I shouldn't, because you didn't. You were talking about the entire corpus of Sobig. What I should have done is added a "sometimes". I apologize for the omission.
I am in fact immune to sobig, because I don't run Outlook, and therefore have no Outlook address book.
Congratulations; you're horribly, horribly wrong, and were rude about it.
Sobig downloads code from a website and executes it. It copies itself into your startup folder and adds itself to the registry so it will execute every time you log in. It looks on network for open C: shares to infect. It identifies you as being infected to an ICQ address.
After all that (well, after most of it, before some), it attempts to email itself.
You're immune to one part of it. You're not immune to the rest.
Does this count the number of Windows machines that were 'compromised' by BLASTER and its children?
No. There's no possible way it does. There were more COMPANIES than that affected by Blaster. Even if they all had only 1 affected machine, there's no way.
I am taking exception to the fact that you imply basketball skills are natural born, not your overall argument.
The potential to develop them is certainly dependant upon genetics, or all of the millions of people playing their hearts out trying to make it big would end up in the NBA.
It's not so much that Shaq has natural talent. He has natural size, which is commonly misperceived as talent.
I'm sorry, are you arguing that extreme height isn't genetic? Or, are you arguing that his height doesn't contribute to his success as a pro basketball player? If not, your argument is basically "you're right, but I take exception to it."
One of the dictionary definitions of "talent" is "a special gift." Shaq didn't do tall exercises to get that big.
I have a co-worker who is as big as Shaq, played basketball all through school including college, and who several days a week goes across the street from our office to the gym in which Shaq practiced every day when he was with the Orlando Magic, and plays basketball. He is not as good as Shaq, and wouldn't be if he played 12 hours a day for the rest of his life.
He can, however, drink a gallon of milk in an hour and keep it down for another hour, a talent that Shaq probably doesn't have.
Since you like to complain that every time you get modded down, I must have done it, I think I'll just reply to this, which will eliminate the +1 you got when I modded your comment up.
I see the similarity, but there is also a difference: in the case of the SPEWS blocklist the decision of an admin to use it is voluntary, and not mandated by the government.
True, but in the case of spam, people are getting some of their bandwidth used for things they don't want.
In the case of child porn, children are being raped.
Not true. There are many, many basketball players with better skills than Shaq.
Read what I said again. I said "most people". The entire NBA combined is statistically insignificant compared to the world population, or even to the number of teachers and cops in the US alone.
The problem with your argument is that you're arguing "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" in a capitalist society.
The reason people with natural talent make more money than people doing a job that anybody can learn to do is simple supply and demand.
Shaq does something most people cannot EVER learn to do as well as he does it; the cop does something that 19 year old kids are routinely trained to do.
Also, both teachers and cops are paid by the government. Government never does anything right; that's why you're supposed to only let government do things that nobody else can do. Private-sector teachers get paid better.
I'm not arguing for private-sector cops; I think only government can do that properly, but with that you have to accept that it'll cost more than it would in the private sector, and leave less for the employees.
I suspect that we're heading toward a two-class society, comprised of the working skilled and the unemployed masses.
Nope. That's what everybody has thought every time this happens.
What will happen is that the large supply of unskilled laborers will produce a demand for them in the form of new jobs that couldn't have been done and wouldn't have been thought of, if there weren't such a large pool of laborers available.
Perhaps those of us who are educated will all be able to afford personal servants, such as maids and drivers. Perhaps some massive new construction projects will be dreamed up. Around here, there aren't enough people to work on the roads to keep up with the necessary expansion, and the county governments are actively trying to discourage growth as a "strategy" for keeping up. If there were a glut of labor to work on those roads, and an increase in productivity from automation raising the tax revenues to pay for it, they could put every one of those people to work expanding the roads.
They are pure evil in their methods, and largely ineffective against spam while causing massive inconvenience for ISPs and legitimate users of the network.
Funny, they're stopping hundreds of spams here, and I have had exactly one report ever of legitimate mail being blocked.
Perhaps your "largely ineffective" argument is COMPLETE AND UTTER CLAPTRAP.
Just because the displays use Windows doesn't mean anything. It was probably easier for whoever developed the system to develop it on Windows. For all you know it could be getting all of the data from a Linux server.
So what? Doesn't make it hurt any less when the Windows boxes all go away.
We (FedEx) have a project that uses lots of Windows boxes for just one part of the process, and feeds it all into UNIX servers.
It only took a few forgotten Windows servers (my team isn't responsible for the Windows boxes) to bring the whole thing to its knees. As usual for these worms, even a small handful of boxes sitting unpatched on somebody else's subnet can swamp yours with traffic, and having a firewall makes it WORSE if you get hit with the "good" worm.
Whomever wrote the first worm should be shot; whomever wrote the "good" worm should be drawn and quartered.
The problem we get is that (some large integer)% of the admins are clueful and download the patches, and (some small, but too large for comfort, integer)% don't, and then the traffic from their few 0wnz0red boxes swamps everything.
or a Colonial Warrior helmet from the never-filmed second season of BG.
Ok, I realize we all WISH Galactica 1980 never happened, but unless the whole thing was videotaped, I fail to see how it made it on the air without having been filmed.
Everyone said the same thing when ATMs came around, "Oh no, they're going to replace actual tellers!" But it didn't, banks still hire quite frequently for bank tellers.
Before ATMs, it was customary for small banks during their busy hours to have every teller window occupied.
Now, it's more common for them to have one or two tellers, and new branch buildings have fewer windows than the old ones.
It was common for a drive-through with four lanes to have two people working the lanes. Now, more commonly one of those lanes has been changed into an ATM lane, and only one person works the other three lanes.
I used to wait in five-car lines for the drivethrough; now I seldom have to wait at all, unless I'm in the ATM lane, and when I do have to wait I haven't had to wait for more than one car in years.
ATMs didn't replace all the teller jobs, but they dame sure replaced many of them. However, I think this is a good thing, not a bad thing. If your job is replaced by a widget, get a job making widgets, and go to night school and learn how to be worth more than a trained monkey.
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And incidentally, you should specify which sobig you are talking about.
No, I shouldn't, because you didn't. You were talking about the entire corpus of Sobig. What I should have done is added a "sometimes". I apologize for the omission.
I am in fact immune to sobig, because I don't run Outlook, and therefore have no Outlook address book.
Congratulations; you're horribly, horribly wrong, and were rude about it.
Sobig downloads code from a website and executes it. It copies itself into your startup folder and adds itself to the registry so it will execute every time you log in. It looks on network for open C: shares to infect. It identifies you as being infected to an ICQ address.
After all that (well, after most of it, before some), it attempts to email itself.
You're immune to one part of it. You're not immune to the rest.
Does this count the number of Windows machines that were 'compromised' by BLASTER and its children?
No. There's no possible way it does. There were more COMPANIES than that affected by Blaster. Even if they all had only 1 affected machine, there's no way.
I am taking exception to the fact that you imply basketball skills are natural born, not your overall argument.
The potential to develop them is certainly dependant upon genetics, or all of the millions of people playing their hearts out trying to make it big would end up in the NBA.
It's not so much that Shaq has natural talent. He has natural size, which is commonly misperceived as talent.
I'm sorry, are you arguing that extreme height isn't genetic? Or, are you arguing that his height doesn't contribute to his success as a pro basketball player? If not, your argument is basically "you're right, but I take exception to it."
One of the dictionary definitions of "talent" is "a special gift." Shaq didn't do tall exercises to get that big.
I have a co-worker who is as big as Shaq, played basketball all through school including college, and who several days a week goes across the street from our office to the gym in which Shaq practiced every day when he was with the Orlando Magic, and plays basketball. He is not as good as Shaq, and wouldn't be if he played 12 hours a day for the rest of his life.
He can, however, drink a gallon of milk in an hour and keep it down for another hour, a talent that Shaq probably doesn't have.
Since you like to complain that every time you get modded down, I must have done it, I think I'll just reply to this, which will eliminate the +1 you got when I modded your comment up.
I see the similarity, but there is also a difference: in the case of the SPEWS blocklist the decision of an admin to use it is voluntary, and not mandated by the government.
True, but in the case of spam, people are getting some of their bandwidth used for things they don't want.
In the case of child porn, children are being raped.
Not true. There are many, many basketball players with better skills than Shaq.
Read what I said again. I said "most people". The entire NBA combined is statistically insignificant compared to the world population, or even to the number of teachers and cops in the US alone.
The problem with your argument is that you're arguing "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" in a capitalist society.
The reason people with natural talent make more money than people doing a job that anybody can learn to do is simple supply and demand.
Shaq does something most people cannot EVER learn to do as well as he does it; the cop does something that 19 year old kids are routinely trained to do.
Also, both teachers and cops are paid by the government. Government never does anything right; that's why you're supposed to only let government do things that nobody else can do. Private-sector teachers get paid better.
I'm not arguing for private-sector cops; I think only government can do that properly, but with that you have to accept that it'll cost more than it would in the private sector, and leave less for the employees.
EPIC and Privacy International are based in the US and UK, respectively, because most countries would shut somebody like them down.
No. The people who are too stupid to understand how to opt-in are the ones who most need the port blocked.
You have the clue, and with it comes the occasional slight inconvenience.
Sorry, I fail to see how it's EDS' fault that the security guard didn't ask to see ID.
According to this version, it uses "censors". So that's the secret; some government official follows you around and parks the car for you!
It's SCO's fault; Microsoft is delayed removing all the code they stole from Linux, that Linux stole from SCO.
I suspect that we're heading toward a two-class society, comprised of the working skilled and the unemployed masses.
Nope. That's what everybody has thought every time this happens.
What will happen is that the large supply of unskilled laborers will produce a demand for them in the form of new jobs that couldn't have been done and wouldn't have been thought of, if there weren't such a large pool of laborers available.
Perhaps those of us who are educated will all be able to afford personal servants, such as maids and drivers. Perhaps some massive new construction projects will be dreamed up. Around here, there aren't enough people to work on the roads to keep up with the necessary expansion, and the county governments are actively trying to discourage growth as a "strategy" for keeping up. If there were a glut of labor to work on those roads, and an increase in productivity from automation raising the tax revenues to pay for it, they could put every one of those people to work expanding the roads.
This coming from a poster using nothing more than conjecture and anecdotal evidence to "prove" a point.
If you can't tell the difference between "perhaps" and "prove a point", you should be studying instead of slashdotting.
They are pure evil in their methods, and largely ineffective against spam while causing massive inconvenience for ISPs and legitimate users of the network.
Funny, they're stopping hundreds of spams here, and I have had exactly one report ever of legitimate mail being blocked.
Perhaps your "largely ineffective" argument is COMPLETE AND UTTER CLAPTRAP.
Just because the displays use Windows doesn't mean anything. It was probably easier for whoever developed the system to develop it on Windows. For all you know it could be getting all of the data from a Linux server.
So what? Doesn't make it hurt any less when the Windows boxes all go away.
We (FedEx) have a project that uses lots of Windows boxes for just one part of the process, and feeds it all into UNIX servers.
It only took a few forgotten Windows servers (my team isn't responsible for the Windows boxes) to bring the whole thing to its knees. As usual for these worms, even a small handful of boxes sitting unpatched on somebody else's subnet can swamp yours with traffic, and having a firewall makes it WORSE if you get hit with the "good" worm.
Whomever wrote the first worm should be shot; whomever wrote the "good" worm should be drawn and quartered.
I don't ordinarily reply to sigs, but this one annoys me.
One World, One Web, One Program - Microsoft ad
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer - Adolf Hitler
One man, one goal, one mission - Freddy Mercury, "One Vision"
Don't read so much into coincidences. All you're doing is invoking the common corollary to Godwin's Law on yourself.
Why do you think it's an integer percentage?
:-)
'cause if I don't know the number well enough to even list it, do you really think I need to take it to decimal places?
The problem we get is that (some large integer)% of the admins are clueful and download the patches, and (some small, but too large for comfort, integer)% don't, and then the traffic from their few 0wnz0red boxes swamps everything.
Unless you're quibbling over 3% here, what exactly was the point in asking him to look that up for you?
is it too much to ask for gentoo to get its on topic category?
This is Gentoo; you're supposed to download the vectors and compile your own logo on each box where you want to see it.
or a Colonial Warrior helmet from the never-filmed second season of BG.
Ok, I realize we all WISH Galactica 1980 never happened, but unless the whole thing was videotaped, I fail to see how it made it on the air without having been filmed.
And by "available bandwidth" they mean everything that's left over after you account for the massive DDoS undoubtedly going on against their routers.
Oh, and Uday's alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.* feed, which I suppose they can shut off now.
Everyone said the same thing when ATMs came around, "Oh no, they're going to replace actual tellers!" But it didn't, banks still hire quite frequently for bank tellers.
Before ATMs, it was customary for small banks during their busy hours to have every teller window occupied.
Now, it's more common for them to have one or two tellers, and new branch buildings have fewer windows than the old ones.
It was common for a drive-through with four lanes to have two people working the lanes. Now, more commonly one of those lanes has been changed into an ATM lane, and only one person works the other three lanes.
I used to wait in five-car lines for the drivethrough; now I seldom have to wait at all, unless I'm in the ATM lane, and when I do have to wait I haven't had to wait for more than one car in years.
ATMs didn't replace all the teller jobs, but they dame sure replaced many of them. However, I think this is a good thing, not a bad thing. If your job is replaced by a widget, get a job making widgets, and go to night school and learn how to be worth more than a trained monkey.