Very well said Dogtanian - you pose valid points. However anything else than victory is defeat. Such is the nature of war. Firepower wins wars of course to put it bluntly. Undermining the government is what loses wars and wether I can sit here confortably and debate all these moral and not issues, it is ultimately my ass too that might very well be in danger or if not future generations. I can be wrong but alive, right and dead. When faced with such choices theres no question in my mind who it is that must lose. Do you thing anybody out there in the prison population and elswhere is concerned about your well being?
Having 'been' there does in no way make you knowlegeable. Only anti-american. Probably therefore you do not live in the states. Or wish you didn't. In that case I've heard Kabul has some real-estate. Two minor things: pow's or whatever you choose to call them are not residents of the US nor have they stepped foot on this soil (nor will they). This therefore does not grant them any judicial processes HERE. Secondly, the Geneva Convention applies to nations specified in the Geneva Convention and not beyond. It is THERE in the Geneva Convention. Read it? Understand it? Obviously not. But don't worry as you arent alone. You aren't alone in arbitrarily wanting to make judgment on issues which fall outside the scope of your understanding of them. It doesn't matter what I want with 'Gitmo' either, with those prisoners. This democracy you speak of, while not perfect, has elected those who call the shots. Like it or not. Personally I couldn't give a flying fuck if all prisoners drown on their feces. Sooner the better.
So well said. Subject, however, will remain ignorant. Only way to save the ilk is if they actually stand up and decide to fight and support the freedom which is taken for granted. Don't count on this coming from every individual as some are devoid of basic self-preservation instinct and drown in the endless piles of garbage eminating from todays media. They eat it up.
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Very well said Dogtanian - you pose valid points. However anything else than victory is defeat. Such is the nature of war. Firepower wins wars of course to put it bluntly. Undermining the government is what loses wars and wether I can sit here confortably and debate all these moral and not issues, it is ultimately my ass too that might very well be in danger or if not future generations. I can be wrong but alive, right and dead. When faced with such choices theres no question in my mind who it is that must lose. Do you thing anybody out there in the prison population and elswhere is concerned about your well being?
Having 'been' there does in no way make you knowlegeable. Only anti-american. Probably therefore you do not live in the states. Or wish you didn't. In that case I've heard Kabul has some real-estate. Two minor things: pow's or whatever you choose to call them are not residents of the US nor have they stepped foot on this soil (nor will they). This therefore does not grant them any judicial processes HERE. Secondly, the Geneva Convention applies to nations specified in the Geneva Convention and not beyond. It is THERE in the Geneva Convention. Read it? Understand it? Obviously not. But don't worry as you arent alone. You aren't alone in arbitrarily wanting to make judgment on issues which fall outside the scope of your understanding of them. It doesn't matter what I want with 'Gitmo' either, with those prisoners. This democracy you speak of, while not perfect, has elected those who call the shots. Like it or not. Personally I couldn't give a flying fuck if all prisoners drown on their feces. Sooner the better.
So well said. Subject, however, will remain ignorant. Only way to save the ilk is if they actually stand up and decide to fight and support the freedom which is taken for granted. Don't count on this coming from every individual as some are devoid of basic self-preservation instinct and drown in the endless piles of garbage eminating from todays media. They eat it up.