P.S. your school system sucks, there's plenty of brighter then you kids that reach that failure point because your system is broken. Yet people like you will point to charts and science data and what everyone should be charts and say... Johnny Mick Different must be burned at the stake because they disagree with their teacher about the mass of electrons.
No, STFU. Electrons have mass bro. Its negligible but they do. There's plenty of dumbass issues with education. Its not about offering up knowledge. It's about brainwashing and cramming it down everyones throats until they loose it.
It is way beyond a hypothesis and I didn't even do the science. Someone else did. Someone with credentials you don't have. Nor do I. But something I can interpret and something you are oblivious to. Someone payed by the public through the department of defense. I am not going to sit here and argue with you about facts. The facts are there to be had and if your to dumb to go and learn them or debate them beyond "We can't fucking do what the article says". You are not worth my time.
I was thinking the interstellar version of Sputnik. Not a broadcasting station.
P.S. Take the time to read about the orion engine. It is not "sci-fi" it is not science fiction. It was a real project. Run by real physicists and engineers. At a real government laboratory (Los Alamos).
There are even experimental results to back it up. I am highly insulted by the ignorant jerk who thinks it is a joke. I find it worse then people claiming life cant survive in a vacuum. Its been experimentally proven otherwise.
Self disqualification is much higher for Nasa then for a T.V. show?
But seriously I thought you had to actually be a pilot in the air force or hold some similarly rigorous qualifications to apply to Nasa's astronaut program.
The reality is according to the standards set forth there are just not that many people who can be Astronauts and this makes sense.
Battle Royale was about 1000x better then Hunger Games. Actually I couldn't watch Hunger Games without saying the Japanese did this twice as good two decades ago without all the crap...
I wasn't even making that comparison to say that one makes the other feasible. I was talking about peoples reluctance to test nuclear stuff in space. Now go away troll.
Or at least increase your reading comprehension. I know I may have bad syntax and grammar, but its not that bad.
Well a synchrotron can fuck you up. But thats more then neutrinos. =) The reasoning I had about neutrinos being harmful is that over time they would damage the heavy metal shielding used on the reactors. The reactors I suppose are shielded more to keep machinery in good order than the people around them. A short burst would probably do no harm.
I think it's uniformed to say orion engines are hand wavy. But if you want working things we've built and tested and don't need to prototype. Your correct, can't do it.
The reasons for us not using the orion engines are not scientific in nature though. They are social, political, or possibly I will give you economic or a combination there of.
By small I was thinking of payload, not the actual ship to carry the payload. But thank you for your clarification =) And its a bloody shame about the treaties, but I can completely understand peoples paranoia about nukes in space. But while we may bitch about our constitutional democracy I still think were sane enough as a society to safely carry out the experiment if we chose to do so. I would trust the institutions we have to do it right. International treaties be damed;p
By the way the engineering doesn't use anything un-real. Its all pretty standard stuff. I don't know if there was ever a test. Probably not, there's been to much hub bub about nuclear batteries on Cassini.
Just testing one would be a worth while mission though, which would probably fit in the budget of the DoD or even Nasa.
I already linked the article: But here is the relevant bit.
At 0.1c, Orion thermonuclear starships would require a flight time of at least 44 years to reach Alpha Centauri, not counting time needed to reach that speed (about 36 days at constant acceleration of 1g or 9.8 m/s2). At 0.1c, an Orion starship would require 100 years to travel 10 light years. The astronomer Carl Sagan suggested that this would be an excellent use for current stockpiles of nuclear weapons.[13]
I tend to agree with this analysis. Many may not. Thats fine. We don't know for sure, it is definitely does not have a very high degree of certainty. I based my information off of the original community site around the orion engine which had a lot more information and debate. This was all many years ago. I would imagine there might be some improvements to it. But don't have anything to share, sorry.
I don't think its any worse then Fresh Prince of Bell Air. It is mildly entertaining. But about as banal as cats and hamburgers. I can understand your dislike of it.
Agreed, but there are tons of people out there who could qualify for this without being deemed insane. Which I think is the parents argument. That anyone is insane for wanting their contribution to life be a mission to Mars on public T.V.
Well, thats not the quote I was looking for. It goes something like this "The first stage of insanity is believing you are sane". =) I wish I could fine the exact fortune database with it, because the guy who said it I believe was someone historically known for deep thought and their outlook on psychology or philosophy.
“If you think anyone is sane you just don't know enough about them.”
Christopher Moore, Practical Demonkeeping
Linux fortune is great.
Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory is a delusional geek who thinks he is the perfect specimen of mankind. At the top of the evolutionary order and everyone else is plagued with insanity.
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P.S. your school system sucks, there's plenty of brighter then you kids that reach that failure point because your system is broken. Yet people like you will point to charts and science data and what everyone should be charts and say... Johnny Mick Different must be burned at the stake because they disagree with their teacher about the mass of electrons.
No, STFU. Electrons have mass bro. Its negligible but they do. There's plenty of dumbass issues with education. Its not about offering up knowledge. It's about brainwashing and cramming it down everyones throats until they loose it.
I think fascists should go fuck themselves in the fucking face =)
yep =/
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/09/segway-death/
Had Been. Is no more.
It is way beyond a hypothesis and I didn't even do the science. Someone else did. Someone with credentials you don't have. Nor do I. But something I can interpret and something you are oblivious to. Someone payed by the public through the department of defense. I am not going to sit here and argue with you about facts. The facts are there to be had and if your to dumb to go and learn them or debate them beyond "We can't fucking do what the article says". You are not worth my time.
I was thinking the interstellar version of Sputnik. Not a broadcasting station.
P.S. Take the time to read about the orion engine. It is not "sci-fi" it is not science fiction. It was a real project. Run by real physicists and engineers. At a real government laboratory (Los Alamos).
There are even experimental results to back it up. I am highly insulted by the ignorant jerk who thinks it is a joke. I find it worse then people claiming life cant survive in a vacuum. Its been experimentally proven otherwise.
Its time to catch up to 1968 for fucks sake.
Self disqualification is much higher for Nasa then for a T.V. show?
But seriously I thought you had to actually be a pilot in the air force or hold some similarly rigorous qualifications to apply to Nasa's astronaut program.
The reality is according to the standards set forth there are just not that many people who can be Astronauts and this makes sense.
"Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage." H.L. Mencken
Lol that is definitely a good one.
His line of reasoning is actually not that much different then that displayed by the test pilots in the movie "The right stuff".
There were 13 original colonies in America. I think your on to something! =)
Battle Royale was about 1000x better then Hunger Games. Actually I couldn't watch Hunger Games without saying the Japanese did this twice as good two decades ago without all the crap...
You are trolling with worse generalizations and less credible information then I do. Your opinion is valid. But I say it is WRONG. =) Thanks Mr. AC
I wasn't even making that comparison to say that one makes the other feasible. I was talking about peoples reluctance to test nuclear stuff in space. Now go away troll.
Or at least increase your reading comprehension. I know I may have bad syntax and grammar, but its not that bad.
Well a synchrotron can fuck you up. But thats more then neutrinos. =) The reasoning I had about neutrinos being harmful is that over time they would damage the heavy metal shielding used on the reactors. The reactors I suppose are shielded more to keep machinery in good order than the people around them. A short burst would probably do no harm.
I think it's uniformed to say orion engines are hand wavy. But if you want working things we've built and tested and don't need to prototype. Your correct, can't do it.
The reasons for us not using the orion engines are not scientific in nature though. They are social, political, or possibly I will give you economic or a combination there of.
By small I was thinking of payload, not the actual ship to carry the payload. But thank you for your clarification =) And its a bloody shame about the treaties, but I can completely understand peoples paranoia about nukes in space. But while we may bitch about our constitutional democracy I still think were sane enough as a society to safely carry out the experiment if we chose to do so. I would trust the institutions we have to do it right. International treaties be damed ;p
By the way the engineering doesn't use anything un-real. Its all pretty standard stuff. I don't know if there was ever a test. Probably not, there's been to much hub bub about nuclear batteries on Cassini.
Just testing one would be a worth while mission though, which would probably fit in the budget of the DoD or even Nasa.
I already linked the article: But here is the relevant bit.
At 0.1c, Orion thermonuclear starships would require a flight time of at least 44 years to reach Alpha Centauri, not counting time needed to reach that speed (about 36 days at constant acceleration of 1g or 9.8 m/s2). At 0.1c, an Orion starship would require 100 years to travel 10 light years. The astronomer Carl Sagan suggested that this would be an excellent use for current stockpiles of nuclear weapons.[13]
I tend to agree with this analysis. Many may not. Thats fine. We don't know for sure, it is definitely does not have a very high degree of certainty. I based my information off of the original community site around the orion engine which had a lot more information and debate. This was all many years ago. I would imagine there might be some improvements to it. But don't have anything to share, sorry.
Yeah, really bad selection criteria.
Death from neutrino's? Woops containment shielding failed, nothing to see here... was it a tokamak?
Sign me up ;p lol... I took a day off of spamming /. yesterday so give me a break I found these topics interesting today.
I don't think its any worse then Fresh Prince of Bell Air. It is mildly entertaining. But about as banal as cats and hamburgers. I can understand your dislike of it.
Agreed, but there are tons of people out there who could qualify for this without being deemed insane. Which I think is the parents argument. That anyone is insane for wanting their contribution to life be a mission to Mars on public T.V.
Well, thats not the quote I was looking for. It goes something like this "The first stage of insanity is believing you are sane". =) I wish I could fine the exact fortune database with it, because the guy who said it I believe was someone historically known for deep thought and their outlook on psychology or philosophy.
“If you think anyone is sane you just don't know enough about them.”
Christopher Moore, Practical Demonkeeping
Linux fortune is great.
Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory is a delusional geek who thinks he is the perfect specimen of mankind. At the top of the evolutionary order and everyone else is plagued with insanity.