I'll admit maybe my original criticism is not the best. It may not even be a good reason to avoid them. Call me crotchety, I just signed up and downloaded whatever they had, tried it, decided I didn't like it and moved on. Proceeded to uninstall the extra software, and send their mail to my junk folder.
I found it very ironic his original post was -5 troll and his clarification is +4 insightful, I have to give him his kudos. I am a little sorry that I leached a +5 funny for my response to his clarification but hey the karma gods are generous today.
Let's assume I'm just creating and editing some textures for a game to share with a local modding community, and not my family or facebook friends (I don't like social networking sites). I only want to upload once anonymously and not be hounded for update, or whatever. So that is how I see dropbox - the social network of filesharing sites. Microsoft was doing something like this. I didn't buy into that service either. Mega would work in this regard as long as you used an anonymous email registration. You can do this with dropbox to. But I don't need an application or service permanently installed for stuff like that.
The fact that it installs directly to the computer instead of residing only in browser plug-in. Also, the fact that it automatically creates a shared folder and syncs that to your drop box account.
For random uploads to the net bigger then 100mb, I personally want a service that doesn't assume defaults like this.
For a service that expects you to constantly be sharing in the cloud with your pals and other accounts this is actually good default behavior.
Its just a criticism based off what I wanted to use the service for.
Tor itself does not directly pay the bad guys (TM). I can see allot of legit people getting money from Kims new service (minecraft community folks, who basically work on the honor system anyway) and allot of other people getting ripped off. And allot of illegal shit becoming harder to track and people generating revenue for it. This is a bad thing in general because it paints the good guys red with all the evil Indians. If Kims new company did some moderation they would look better in the publics eyes, but then be prone to legal from big government. Its a catch 22 he is in in this regard.
Most of the files I'm talking about were hosted in multiple places as well. Rapidshare, mega, filefront, game spies old service before it combined with filefront (or maybe I have that backwards). There's a decades worth of file sharing history to get right there, which I'm kinda just going to lazily assume most people know off hand.
I don't like dropbox simply because its software and registration is pretty invasive. But if I was seriously considering trying to making money of a project, I would try ad-fly. I have used drop box for family photo transfers.
After doing a bit more research, there is no Sony Universal, so it would be Sony Entertainment. Sony and universal got into a spat over betamax in 1984, but thats far reaching for conspiracy.
I think Sony, just bowed down and developed the rootkit to make their service look better to the producers, Sony, being the distributer in this case. If I had the rootkit I don't know, I also didn't have autoplay enabled on my computers. So bad Sony =/ I personally have a love hate relationship with them. Because they funded startups like Verant 989 (which was actually owned the whole time by Sony) and have done plenty of good hardware development. Minus their latest PS3 failure due to RHOS and re-balling the BGA socket GPU's.
I would tend to agree, but thats like blaming the people behind originally Blizzard for Vivendi-Activision, at that point it starts to grey out a bit in my mind. And knowing corporate politics, my father worked for Evens-and-Southerland, that sometimes one division can do something to harm the entire company.
I'm not trying to exonerate them. Just thinking and speculating (speculation) is the first step, while not an actual factual understanding of things.
Oh yeah the rootkit. Your right, got me there. Sony BMG music group also I guess. But is Sony Universal really "Sony" or an American front or shell for their video industry. It gets confusing you start researching who owns what. I am thinking Sony, as in plain old hardware Sony. Or Sony Entertainment Corporation. Sony has allot of studio's.
I would make the argument that he screwed over the big monopolies, but not the individual small creators, who couldn't get published by the likes of EA, or Time Warner, or MGM. Plus he facilitated fair use, such as taping NFL and redistributing it, because fuck all people use to be able to do that. The internet made it easier yeah. The NFL also didn't go out of business. I think they've made a profit each and every year. There's no actually creativity in that, just the buying of good equipment and talent to tape already planned events. So maybe the only thing setting apart major networks from people with their home camera's is quality.
But you know, things change. Maybe we should support peoples individual rights to profit from the same thing major companies are syndicating. Might help the economy too.
He's just an entrepreneur with his own political motivations, ones that don't align with the people in power. His sole purpose in life is not to screw over content creators as you believe.
Further under Kim's old model, the people who uploaded content benefited, if you uploaded your own content you actually got compensated for it, even if it was still pirated a bunch. Meaning Kim didn't run an exclusive monopoly on his ass sitting entrepreneurial lifestyle.
Stop crying because you can't control the whole godamn planet.
So the execs at MGM, Warner, AOL, MSNBC, Sony, and all those other media corps have a right to sit on their ass playing CoD all day too? Are you one of them, worried about your monopolies? Though I think Sony is probably one of the least evil offenders in this regard, they just defend their turf enough to not get steamrolled.
Thats just one industry, not even all of them.
Every single thing I used mega-upload for was legit. Mods for oblivion, quake, and other gaming uses.
I big man doesn't tell other men how, when and were they can defend themselves. Thats as fucking occamz as it gets brosky. That means let them have their guns, man up and stop being a pussy about it.
Jesus Christ mozmurder, you are a G-man through and through. Not everyone thinks the right solution is an all out civil war. But there are allot of sane rational people who have tried their damnedest to play by the rules, affect change, and simply KNOW BETTER THEN YOUR CLOSE MINDED BIGOTRY towards everything that doesn't fit the perfect pyramid of rich to poor, power to powerlessness.
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I'll admit maybe my original criticism is not the best. It may not even be a good reason to avoid them. Call me crotchety, I just signed up and downloaded whatever they had, tried it, decided I didn't like it and moved on. Proceeded to uninstall the extra software, and send their mail to my junk folder.
I found it very ironic his original post was -5 troll and his clarification is +4 insightful, I have to give him his kudos. I am a little sorry that I leached a +5 funny for my response to his clarification but hey the karma gods are generous today.
Let's assume I'm just creating and editing some textures for a game to share with a local modding community, and not my family or facebook friends (I don't like social networking sites). I only want to upload once anonymously and not be hounded for update, or whatever. So that is how I see dropbox - the social network of filesharing sites. Microsoft was doing something like this. I didn't buy into that service either. Mega would work in this regard as long as you used an anonymous email registration. You can do this with dropbox to. But I don't need an application or service permanently installed for stuff like that.
The fact that it installs directly to the computer instead of residing only in browser plug-in. Also, the fact that it automatically creates a shared folder and syncs that to your drop box account.
For random uploads to the net bigger then 100mb, I personally want a service that doesn't assume defaults like this.
For a service that expects you to constantly be sharing in the cloud with your pals and other accounts this is actually good default behavior.
Its just a criticism based off what I wanted to use the service for.
Tor itself does not directly pay the bad guys (TM). I can see allot of legit people getting money from Kims new service (minecraft community folks, who basically work on the honor system anyway) and allot of other people getting ripped off. And allot of illegal shit becoming harder to track and people generating revenue for it. This is a bad thing in general because it paints the good guys red with all the evil Indians. If Kims new company did some moderation they would look better in the publics eyes, but then be prone to legal from big government. Its a catch 22 he is in in this regard.
Most of the files I'm talking about were hosted in multiple places as well. Rapidshare, mega, filefront, game spies old service before it combined with filefront (or maybe I have that backwards). There's a decades worth of file sharing history to get right there, which I'm kinda just going to lazily assume most people know off hand.
Yes, Sir =)
Peanuts and fame, and karma?
I don't like dropbox simply because its software and registration is pretty invasive. But if I was seriously considering trying to making money of a project, I would try ad-fly. I have used drop box for family photo transfers.
Not everyone with an authoritarian mindset really supports Obama, Authoritarianism has its place, but ruling over all of society I don't think so.
After doing a bit more research, there is no Sony Universal, so it would be Sony Entertainment. Sony and universal got into a spat over betamax in 1984, but thats far reaching for conspiracy.
I think Sony, just bowed down and developed the rootkit to make their service look better to the producers, Sony, being the distributer in this case. If I had the rootkit I don't know, I also didn't have autoplay enabled on my computers. So bad Sony =/ I personally have a love hate relationship with them. Because they funded startups like Verant 989 (which was actually owned the whole time by Sony) and have done plenty of good hardware development. Minus their latest PS3 failure due to RHOS and re-balling the BGA socket GPU's.
I would tend to agree, but thats like blaming the people behind originally Blizzard for Vivendi-Activision, at that point it starts to grey out a bit in my mind. And knowing corporate politics, my father worked for Evens-and-Southerland, that sometimes one division can do something to harm the entire company.
I'm not trying to exonerate them. Just thinking and speculating (speculation) is the first step, while not an actual factual understanding of things.
Oh yeah the rootkit. Your right, got me there. Sony BMG music group also I guess. But is Sony Universal really "Sony" or an American front or shell for their video industry. It gets confusing you start researching who owns what. I am thinking Sony, as in plain old hardware Sony. Or Sony Entertainment Corporation. Sony has allot of studio's.
Conned how? Please provide a link as to how Kim was a con artist. His company actually payed out to people AFAIK.
I would make the argument that he screwed over the big monopolies, but not the individual small creators, who couldn't get published by the likes of EA, or Time Warner, or MGM. Plus he facilitated fair use, such as taping NFL and redistributing it, because fuck all people use to be able to do that. The internet made it easier yeah. The NFL also didn't go out of business. I think they've made a profit each and every year. There's no actually creativity in that, just the buying of good equipment and talent to tape already planned events. So maybe the only thing setting apart major networks from people with their home camera's is quality.
But you know, things change. Maybe we should support peoples individual rights to profit from the same thing major companies are syndicating. Might help the economy too.
Use to be hosted on mega, http://www.darkcreations.org/forums/files/file/297-elsweyr-the-deserts-of-anequina/ back in the day bro. Your making a blanket assumption that Kim is an evil facilitator of destruction.
He's just an entrepreneur with his own political motivations, ones that don't align with the people in power. His sole purpose in life is not to screw over content creators as you believe.
Further under Kim's old model, the people who uploaded content benefited, if you uploaded your own content you actually got compensated for it, even if it was still pirated a bunch. Meaning Kim didn't run an exclusive monopoly on his ass sitting entrepreneurial lifestyle.
Stop crying because you can't control the whole godamn planet.
So the execs at MGM, Warner, AOL, MSNBC, Sony, and all those other media corps have a right to sit on their ass playing CoD all day too? Are you one of them, worried about your monopolies? Though I think Sony is probably one of the least evil offenders in this regard, they just defend their turf enough to not get steamrolled.
Thats just one industry, not even all of them.
Every single thing I used mega-upload for was legit. Mods for oblivion, quake, and other gaming uses.
They just want to re-lock the technology for another century. 1914, everyone should be doing it.
I would disagree. I believe its only the cheapest monetarily to those producing and distributing power.
I big man doesn't tell other men how, when and were they can defend themselves. Thats as fucking occamz as it gets brosky. That means let them have their guns, man up and stop being a pussy about it.
I agree this is the result of shear laziness and incompetence, ipv6 works just fine.
Jesus Christ mozmurder, you are a G-man through and through. Not everyone thinks the right solution is an all out civil war. But there are allot of sane rational people who have tried their damnedest to play by the rules, affect change, and simply KNOW BETTER THEN YOUR CLOSE MINDED BIGOTRY towards everything that doesn't fit the perfect pyramid of rich to poor, power to powerlessness.
STFU.
Spies in every home to report on everyones pressure levels. Heck require bi-weekly audits for everyone who doesn't hold a job, or own property.
Not a single tear, not a single pang of guilt. Just agenda's.