True, however the reason they are proven in Texas courts is because the only patent to ever be rejected was P8978634: "Method of calling the judge a fag".
They don't even need to do that. There was nothing stopping them from using ext2 on the device completely and bundling an ext2 driver with their firmware update utility.
Quite simply there was many technical ways they could have achieved their goals. These ways may have cost more to implement. They chose to use the patented* file system without paying the license - and they got caught.
* Not that I agree that something as straightforward as LFN support for FAT should be patentable (its just an obviously fucking long->short map after all) - but this is a seperate matter for discussion.
Tissue World Americas is the only Conference and Exhibition targeted at the North and South American producers, converters, distributors, traders and suppliers of soft hygiene tissue paper. It will be in its fourth edition in 2008.
Exactly. Again, the main point being that a non-IE distribution should be offered, and this has very little to do with the presence of other components that IE used.
The exact fashion in which various countries codify and apply their laws is not a subject of interest to me.
Whoa, hold on there. Microsoft killing the browser market? Sure, no debates there.
Microsoft killing the DHTML renderer component market? Possibly. The same as they are killing the common-control market, the shell market, etc. Where do you draw the line?
I don't see people advocating removal of comctrl32.dll, or comdlg32... (Not to say they won't start whinging next). IMO a DHTML rendering control is part of providing a complete UI widget set - which is something that an application platform has to provide. Period. The MSHTML COM component *should* be part of the standard distribution (as it is NOT ie).
You are now confusing a DHTML rendering component with a browser application.
The COM interfaces for IE are well-defined and there is nothing stopping anyone exposing identical interfaces from their own components. Bit of a bloody waste of time if you ask me.
Also I'm not sure if I'm too interested in having to look at a bunch of licenses for linking directly to Firefox libraries or whatever...
Yeah thats a Zone warning. The originating zones for files (and also the zones policy can be applied to for managed code) mirror the IE zones. (Internet / Local Machine / Intranet / Trusted Sites / etc).
I'd like to think that if you are put into a GTA4 style open world game, with guns, hoes and fast cars, that if you are not "the protagonist" then you will soon become one.
Either that, or you are going to commute from Romans apartment every morning to ULPaper Co, and shuffle virtual paper around.
Saints Row 2 reminded me of the old GTA spirit. Co-op was a blast. Missions were fun. Loads of stuff to do.
The general feel of the game wasn't to constrain you as well. The garage would let you store as many cars as you liked, you could save midgame without having to run off to some apartment. The health-regen meant you could have extended firefights with police....
I felt it was completely let down by the horrible driving physics. Cars had an apparant weight of 10kg - causing mayhem on the road just wasn't as satisfying as in GTA4. Driving was let down further by the horrible keyboard controls on the PC port:/
The graphics were worse than GTA4 which I found irrelevant.
Hrmmm, I thought thats how it was worded when it came to uploaded photos. As for them owning my status message... *shrug*. Nothing new here - we've been used to this since the Happy Penguin State Colouring Competition had a little * line that said you won't get your entry returned.
If I write the next War and Peace using Twitter, then we'll see how the legal challenges go...
99% of the BSODs I have seen have been PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA, usually in either an nvidia or realtek driver. This is a clear bug in driver code. The error is using a pointer to a page which isn't locked and subsequently gets paged to disk from within a ring0 level. So you get a page fault, and everyone is sad.
...permanently owns all content related to your social networking a la facebook...
And everyone else...
This is pretty obviously done because no social networking site wants:
a) Every money grabbing moron suing them for redistributing the valuable IP contained in their "LOL BRB, Taking a dump" status line. b) Dealing with making sure every piece of random garbage which is attached to every other piece of random garbage is removed when you cancel your account.
They also don't want you as a customer if you just check your email and no more, because you aren't in the demographic of people that click ads and buy ringtones. Sad, but true.
Well looks like your google-fu is quite weak. I found a bunch. Firestar vs Redhat is one. I guess settling out of court means you can hang up the "convicted patent infringer" and go with what?
"Self-admitted patent infringer"?
Its just niggling. Like I said, its their job to toe the line of anti-trust until someone reels them in a bit - with a "finding of law" by the way, not a "conviction".
I guess you can call it a conviction if it helps you weasel in making them sound extra evil though.
Has.NET been vetted by experts in the way open source projects like this will be?
Yes. By paid experts, a year of running as "Terrarium" and also being vetted by black-hats as its been a default-enabled part of IE for a few years now.
Is.NET likely to ever be cross platform?
Yes. Google for Mono. Most shit I've written works under Mono.
Oh bullshit. MS are one of the very few tech companies that are delivering a decent ROI, they have been over their entire existance, and are outperforming every other in the sector.
Without the Apocalypse or the Year Of Teh Linux Desktop they are unlikely to lose this monopoly position any time soon.
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True, however the reason they are proven in Texas courts is because the only patent to ever be rejected was P8978634: "Method of calling the judge a fag".
No, this is Australia we are talking about. We don't allow crazy redneck fucks to keep huge bunches of loaded guns all over their homes.
They don't even need to do that. There was nothing stopping them from using ext2 on the device completely and bundling an ext2 driver with their firmware update utility.
Quite simply there was many technical ways they could have achieved their goals. These ways may have cost more to implement. They chose to use the patented* file system without paying the license - and they got caught.
* Not that I agree that something as straightforward as LFN support for FAT should be patentable (its just an obviously fucking long->short map after all) - but this is a seperate matter for discussion.
Sweet! Hang on... ... alright wheres the prize?
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Yeah thats a fair point. VB.Net is an equally capable CLR language. The median developer ability however...
I guess that means that everyone gets pwned.
Use Opera ;)
Bet that place is packed full of wankers!
Exactly. Again, the main point being that a non-IE distribution should be offered, and this has very little to do with the presence of other components that IE used.
The exact fashion in which various countries codify and apply their laws is not a subject of interest to me.
Whoa, hold on there. Microsoft killing the browser market? Sure, no debates there.
Microsoft killing the DHTML renderer component market? Possibly. The same as they are killing the common-control market, the shell market, etc. Where do you draw the line?
I don't see people advocating removal of comctrl32.dll, or comdlg32... (Not to say they won't start whinging next). IMO a DHTML rendering control is part of providing a complete UI widget set - which is something that an application platform has to provide. Period. The MSHTML COM component *should* be part of the standard distribution (as it is NOT ie).
ITT: I ruse :(
Yeah even with a traditional clustering setup its just a matter of issuing a drain stop...
VMotion does rock though... especially with the intelligent load-balancing shit turned on.
You are now confusing a DHTML rendering component with a browser application.
The COM interfaces for IE are well-defined and there is nothing stopping anyone exposing identical interfaces from their own components. Bit of a bloody waste of time if you ask me.
Also I'm not sure if I'm too interested in having to look at a bunch of licenses for linking directly to Firefox libraries or whatever...
Whats the COM+ UUID for gecko? Does it expose the same interfaces?
Can I deploy it myself, or will I have to GPL my app?
Yeah thats a Zone warning. The originating zones for files (and also the zones policy can be applied to for managed code) mirror the IE zones. (Internet / Local Machine / Intranet / Trusted Sites / etc).
No. My housemate plays it, and I could never stand to look at the insanely horrible text interface.
Seriously - a crap developer on like 45k could put a passable UI on top of that...
I'd like to think that if you are put into a GTA4 style open world game, with guns, hoes and fast cars, that if you are not "the protagonist" then you will soon become one.
Either that, or you are going to commute from Romans apartment every morning to ULPaper Co, and shuffle virtual paper around.
Saints Row 2 reminded me of the old GTA spirit. Co-op was a blast. Missions were fun. Loads of stuff to do.
The general feel of the game wasn't to constrain you as well. The garage would let you store as many cars as you liked, you could save midgame without having to run off to some apartment. The health-regen meant you could have extended firefights with police....
I felt it was completely let down by the horrible driving physics. Cars had an apparant weight of 10kg - causing mayhem on the road just wasn't as satisfying as in GTA4. Driving was let down further by the horrible keyboard controls on the PC port :/
The graphics were worse than GTA4 which I found irrelevant.
Hrmmm, I thought thats how it was worded when it came to uploaded photos. As for them owning my status message... *shrug*. Nothing new here - we've been used to this since the Happy Penguin State Colouring Competition had a little * line that said you won't get your entry returned.
If I write the next War and Peace using Twitter, then we'll see how the legal challenges go...
Sir, my bank is happy to lend you $14 million against your home. No SSN required.
99% of the BSODs I have seen have been PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA, usually in either an nvidia or realtek driver. This is a clear bug in driver code. The error is using a pointer to a page which isn't locked and subsequently gets paged to disk from within a ring0 level. So you get a page fault, and everyone is sad.
And everyone else...
This is pretty obviously done because no social networking site wants:
a) Every money grabbing moron suing them for redistributing the valuable IP contained in their "LOL BRB, Taking a dump" status line.
b) Dealing with making sure every piece of random garbage which is attached to every other piece of random garbage is removed when you cancel your account.
They also don't want you as a customer if you just check your email and no more, because you aren't in the demographic of people that click ads and buy ringtones. Sad, but true.
Well looks like your google-fu is quite weak. I found a bunch. Firestar vs Redhat is one. I guess settling out of court means you can hang up the "convicted patent infringer" and go with what?
"Self-admitted patent infringer"?
Its just niggling. Like I said, its their job to toe the line of anti-trust until someone reels them in a bit - with a "finding of law" by the way, not a "conviction".
I guess you can call it a conviction if it helps you weasel in making them sound extra evil though.
Yes. Google for Rotor moar.
Yes. By paid experts, a year of running as "Terrarium" and also being vetted by black-hats as its been a default-enabled part of IE for a few years now.
Yes. Google for Mono. Most shit I've written works under Mono.
Google for JIT.
In fact, just google moar.
Oh bullshit. MS are one of the very few tech companies that are delivering a decent ROI, they have been over their entire existance, and are outperforming every other in the sector.
Without the Apocalypse or the Year Of Teh Linux Desktop they are unlikely to lose this monopoly position any time soon.
Are these the competitors that are already paying for the license like good little boys and girls?
Perhaps Tomtom should just go use one of the many superior open source filesystems that I keep hearing about.