Lots of people. There's going to be a ton of people who switch to Sony, but there's going to be a lot of people who buy the XBone. while there's plenty of wailing and gnashing of teeth, there's also plenty of people who just don't care enough about the issues with the XBone to have it put them off.
The stated plan is to continue to support the 360 for several years, they also just released the new model. I expect that the 360 will be produced and get games for another 4-5 years as there's somewhat less incentive to upgrade from this generation then from the last (regardless of whether you're going Sony or MS) and the PS2 lasted for years after the PS3 was released.
That's the part that gets me the most about this. Everyone is talking about the XBone like it's price is absurd, but it's actually were I expected BOTH consoles to be. The fact that the PS4 is lower makes me unhappy because it means they could have made it a lot more powerful. The reality is that the price for games has been declining when you take inflation into account and the price of the XBone is significantly lower than the PS3's launch price not even taking inflation into account. Higher than the PS4? Yes. Unreasonably so? Not really.
Speaking for myself I very much like the idea of voice commands, there's a LOT of games that can benefit from them. I'd LOVE to call out audibles in Madden, or tell a team-mate to cast a spell or use suppressive fire without going through a command wheel. I'd also love to see Steel Battalion get another go, if the new Kinect can make it work better then the last attempt it could be awesome as well. Also Nike+Kinect is enticing as well.
The Kinect isn't a make or break thing for me, but I definitely like it's inclusion.
It is definitely a concern, however I expect that the requirement will be firmware based and removed with the final update to the platform whenever that update is released. Of course that probably won't be for 15 years, so plenty can happen between now and then, but it's not something I'm worried about anymore than I'm worried about it on Steam.
As for privacy, if Microsoft wants to watch me playing Forza 5 in my underwear that's THEIR problem, not mine.
And Taylor Swift was sent to a school for the deaf when they put up a poll asking where she should perform. Popular internet polls are as reliable as astrology. I'll wait for the launch before declaring a winner, and even then the PS3 staged a comeback in the last few years, so an early lead isn't a permadeath sentence.
For the record, those of us saying that they were saving most of the gaming for E3 were right. Of course they've shot themselves in the foot in other ways, but we were right about that.
Not a fanboi by the way before someone tries to mock me for it.
The Wii U is a platform for playing Nintendo 1st party games. If you aren't interested in that then it's pretty much garbage. Nintendo ceded the Core Gamer audience last generation and have nothing to lure them back.
The Ouya will probably be a joke in the long-run, a console for nerds to monkey around with that won't get serious traction with any major titles. A lot of the people ordering it are going to hack it into something else, the ones who keep it as is most likely won't have the ecosystem available to draw major titles their way.
I could be wrong, only time will tell, but I don't see the Ouya doing any better than the Wii U.
Lots of people are pissed over the price since the specs are worse than the PS4. Lots of people are pissed about not being able to freely trade games. Lots of people are pissed about being required to get online once every 24 hours.
Of course even with all that there's still going to be plenty of people buying the Xbox, it's not going to be anywhere near the disaster that the Internet Armchair Quarterback Brigade are calling it, though I don't think there's any chance of the PS4 not having a better launch. Myself I don't really care about those, but I've recently reconsidered my gaming in general and decided to focus on the PC more. I'll evaluate the consoles in a year or two and see which one is the better deal. Most particularly I'm going to be looking for whether Gran Turismo 6 is even out, and if it is if it can compare to Forza 5.
The only thing you get on Wii U is Nintendo titles, if you don't care about them then it's worthless. Even as a streaming box you can Get Roku or *gag* Apple TV for cheaper.
None. The OUYA is not competition for the Big 3 (PS4, XBone and PC), it competition for the stragglers maybe, the Wii U, Gamestick and current-gen consoles, but it isn't even a blip on the core gaming market.
Nice but most games work fine at launch anyway, if you don't play online you have no real reason to buy on launch day so you can avoid the ones that don't.
You store music on your console?
That's what my computer is for.
Would be nice
Computer again
Hey look at that, something my computer does better!
No it won't. OtherOS was a super-niche feature that has likely been forgotten by almost everyone and was likely totally ignored by nearly the entire userbase when it was available.
Because the consoles are still cheaper and simpler than PCs. To get a decent gaming computer you either need to pay a premium to a gaming manufacturer or build your own, which requires a modicum of knowledge and effort and results in you not having a warranty if you break it. To get a decent gaming console you buy the prepackaged box laying on the shelf at your local best Buy/Amazon warehouse.
Well first off the cops already record most things (at least here in 'Murrica), this just adds another layer outside the cars. Second this could be a boon for accountability, though the rate of "missing" recordings will probably be troublesome. Third this is Britain, not America, the British long ago gave up any semblance of privacy.
That's the ideal, but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen a printer not be recognized when it was already plugged in. There's a reason the instructions tell you to plug it in when the computer's on. I'm not trying to blame your precious Linux so get your panties untwisted, I was blaming the GP not following the setup instructions, which it turns out he did, which makes it a problem with Windows (or possibly the printer).
Yeah, I've 100%ed the cheevos on my phone. I found it mildly concerning when I read an interview where Sid (I think) said that Civ Rev was the game he always wanted to make.
Yeah I know, that's where it really took off, but most people skipped it and it wasn't as good as 7s, if for no reason other than that 7 had driver support at launch, Vista has shit for drivers for months.
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Lots of people. There's going to be a ton of people who switch to Sony, but there's going to be a lot of people who buy the XBone. while there's plenty of wailing and gnashing of teeth, there's also plenty of people who just don't care enough about the issues with the XBone to have it put them off.
The stated plan is to continue to support the 360 for several years, they also just released the new model. I expect that the 360 will be produced and get games for another 4-5 years as there's somewhat less incentive to upgrade from this generation then from the last (regardless of whether you're going Sony or MS) and the PS2 lasted for years after the PS3 was released.
That's the part that gets me the most about this. Everyone is talking about the XBone like it's price is absurd, but it's actually were I expected BOTH consoles to be. The fact that the PS4 is lower makes me unhappy because it means they could have made it a lot more powerful. The reality is that the price for games has been declining when you take inflation into account and the price of the XBone is significantly lower than the PS3's launch price not even taking inflation into account. Higher than the PS4? Yes. Unreasonably so? Not really.
Nike+Kinect isn't a "game" per se, but my understanding is that it's an effective demonstration of the functionality of the Kinect.
Speaking for myself I very much like the idea of voice commands, there's a LOT of games that can benefit from them. I'd LOVE to call out audibles in Madden, or tell a team-mate to cast a spell or use suppressive fire without going through a command wheel. I'd also love to see Steel Battalion get another go, if the new Kinect can make it work better then the last attempt it could be awesome as well. Also Nike+Kinect is enticing as well.
The Kinect isn't a make or break thing for me, but I definitely like it's inclusion.
It is definitely a concern, however I expect that the requirement will be firmware based and removed with the final update to the platform whenever that update is released. Of course that probably won't be for 15 years, so plenty can happen between now and then, but it's not something I'm worried about anymore than I'm worried about it on Steam.
As for privacy, if Microsoft wants to watch me playing Forza 5 in my underwear that's THEIR problem, not mine.
And Taylor Swift was sent to a school for the deaf when they put up a poll asking where she should perform. Popular internet polls are as reliable as astrology. I'll wait for the launch before declaring a winner, and even then the PS3 staged a comeback in the last few years, so an early lead isn't a permadeath sentence.
For the record, those of us saying that they were saving most of the gaming for E3 were right. Of course they've shot themselves in the foot in other ways, but we were right about that.
Not a fanboi by the way before someone tries to mock me for it.
The Wii U is a platform for playing Nintendo 1st party games. If you aren't interested in that then it's pretty much garbage. Nintendo ceded the Core Gamer audience last generation and have nothing to lure them back.
The Ouya will probably be a joke in the long-run, a console for nerds to monkey around with that won't get serious traction with any major titles. A lot of the people ordering it are going to hack it into something else, the ones who keep it as is most likely won't have the ecosystem available to draw major titles their way.
I could be wrong, only time will tell, but I don't see the Ouya doing any better than the Wii U.
Lots of people are pissed over the price since the specs are worse than the PS4.
Lots of people are pissed about not being able to freely trade games.
Lots of people are pissed about being required to get online once every 24 hours.
Of course even with all that there's still going to be plenty of people buying the Xbox, it's not going to be anywhere near the disaster that the Internet Armchair Quarterback Brigade are calling it, though I don't think there's any chance of the PS4 not having a better launch. Myself I don't really care about those, but I've recently reconsidered my gaming in general and decided to focus on the PC more. I'll evaluate the consoles in a year or two and see which one is the better deal. Most particularly I'm going to be looking for whether Gran Turismo 6 is even out, and if it is if it can compare to Forza 5.
Yes.
The only thing you get on Wii U is Nintendo titles, if you don't care about them then it's worthless. Even as a streaming box you can Get Roku or *gag* Apple TV for cheaper.
None. The OUYA is not competition for the Big 3 (PS4, XBone and PC), it competition for the stragglers maybe, the Wii U, Gamestick and current-gen consoles, but it isn't even a blip on the core gaming market.
It was definitely a rape joke. It also isn't a big deal except to the "ALL THE SENSITIVE" crowd who are looking for any reason to be angry.
Seriously the constant push to have the thinnest skin possible is getting extremely annoying.
Egosoft, how appropriate.
Nice but most games work fine at launch anyway, if you don't play online you have no real reason to buy on launch day so you can avoid the ones that don't.
You store music on your console?
That's what my computer is for.
Would be nice
Computer again
Hey look at that, something my computer does better!
No it won't. OtherOS was a super-niche feature that has likely been forgotten by almost everyone and was likely totally ignored by nearly the entire userbase when it was available.
Because the consoles are still cheaper and simpler than PCs. To get a decent gaming computer you either need to pay a premium to a gaming manufacturer or build your own, which requires a modicum of knowledge and effort and results in you not having a warranty if you break it. To get a decent gaming console you buy the prepackaged box laying on the shelf at your local best Buy/Amazon warehouse.
Neither of those are ideal either, both are just as ripe for abuse.
Well first off the cops already record most things (at least here in 'Murrica), this just adds another layer outside the cars. Second this could be a boon for accountability, though the rate of "missing" recordings will probably be troublesome. Third this is Britain, not America, the British long ago gave up any semblance of privacy.
That whooshing sound was the joke going over your head.
That's the ideal, but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen a printer not be recognized when it was already plugged in. There's a reason the instructions tell you to plug it in when the computer's on. I'm not trying to blame your precious Linux so get your panties untwisted, I was blaming the GP not following the setup instructions, which it turns out he did, which makes it a problem with Windows (or possibly the printer).
Yeah, I've 100%ed the cheevos on my phone. I found it mildly concerning when I read an interview where Sid (I think) said that Civ Rev was the game he always wanted to make.
Yeah I know, that's where it really took off, but most people skipped it and it wasn't as good as 7s, if for no reason other than that 7 had driver support at launch, Vista has shit for drivers for months.