If one assumes that all terrrorists are zealots (which they're not, some are merc's, but lets assume) then it can be assumed that obviously all zealots are terrorists...
It depeneds on the section of media you approach. Post pro microsoft comments on/. and youd most likely be boo'd from here to hell.
Posting comments that scrutinise the linux community on a site populated by a god section of that community will generally draw fire. If this were on a microsoft site, it would be refered to as 'microsoft sponsored propoganda'
In this case, the medium affects the message. While refering to linux zealots as terrorists is taking it to the extreme, he does raise some good points. people are very combative about their os choices.. and some can't explain why.
According to the points mentioned in your theroy, the odd's of IBM reverting to the idea of a sco buyout are slim. So in a universe where all things are possible, but not probable, your scenario is moot:)
SCO possibly always wanted a buyout, but at this juncture, it seems unlikley for both competitors to back down and take the easy way out. ie, a simple buyout.
To many people have become involved to make a clean escape from this problem possible.
Then again, neither of us have the luck (or misfortune) of being lawyers/exec's in the case. Possibly the most probable action will be overridden by the randomness of the human mind.
We will see in time, won't we? Care for a friendly wager as to the outcome?
Hah. I Totally agree! Gates is well known for making grand sweeping statements... that can never be held to be true.
"are they still in business?" Rather then jsut say 'no we're not doing that' he decided to go with overkill. He uses the phrase "to be honest", in a statement that can't be true. This is why the world isnt hopping on the Microsoft bandwagon.
"To be honest, I haven't heard from Phoenix Technologies for over five years," Gates said. "Are they still in business? The BIOS will always be separated from the operating system. Actually, it's gotten out of date. If you run Windows XP, it calls very little of the BIOS."
Well now.. there's an Idea I havnt heard proposed yet..
IBM has the money, why not offer SCO a buyout?
SCO would go either one of three ways..
1. they'd accept 2. they'd (hah) politely decline 3. they'd decline, then tell the media that IBM has no faith in their case due to the attempted buyout, and just whore up more media time
I hate to dis such a great idea, but SCO is pre-destined to choose 3.
Being Joe Everyguy doesnt make him boring, reading that article makes me wanna have a beer with him.
I think that unlike gates, with his numerous security gurads watching, I could have an honest talk with the guy, and forget that he's the definitive linux guru, and just get drunk:)
Wow, this might turn out to be the start of the 21st centurys witchhung. If only mcarthy was still around, he'd be for this like crazy.
How many lives are you prepared to ruin? And I'm serious, the media will be all over this like crazy, pulling ideas from it like crazy, and doing the finger pointing. Along with the feds being cranky, you'll have wrecked an innocent life. Wow, not the greatest idea eh?
I got the same reaction from my peers. Until I showed them this article. Then they all started talking about it like its the first time anybody ever mentioned it. Heh, Ingrates:)
I've noticied a lot of talk about speed, but not a lot of the thermal effects of this drive.
Questions that need to be asked are:
1. How will the temp of this drive effect system ambient temp. 2. Where will it be mounted to get maximum airflow over it 3. What would be the reccomended amount/speed of fans to cover this puppy.
Not to sound rude, but If only microsoft would cooperate a little more with it
If they co-operate, people start buying xbox's (yay). The money isn't in selling the consoles, theyre already selling them at a loss. The money is in selling the games.
MS is -very- money motivated, selling their systems at a loss to make it back with the lucrative game sales, good idea.
Selling consoles that people can run linux on (their competition) without ever buying real xbox games? bad idea.
The xbox might have standard pc hardware in it, but as such, its not sold as a PC. It's a game platform, and thereby seperate from the normal world of pc's. MS doesnt have to do anything for the linux community, except laugh at us when we brag about violating copyrights.
Wouldn't it be cool is sco teamed up with ms to sue us for modding our xboxs? As if the linux community isnt being annoyed enough at this time.
Linux + Xbox = bad idea. It's all well and good that you can do it, but.. why would you want to?
Go out, buy a pc for a little more, and install linux.
Linux on a 1/2 assed device isnt super cool, its just dull.
Spam is that its -Very- big money. Next only to porn. If you spam about porn.. wow:)
Spammers will do -anything- to get around what ever you're doing. A spam company that I used to work for, would sell anti-spam programs which promised to get rid of spam, per a monlty subscription.
If you wanted to get out of thise "service", and you wern't inclined to read your TOS, you neglected to notice the fact that you would be subscriped to all of their lists upon termination of the contract.
This is basically racketeering.
This isn't new, this type of service has been avaiable since the dawn of time. A "Protection" service.
Aka "thats a Nice e-mail account you have there, pitty if it got spammed to hell".
Except guy's Named Guido whose breath smells like mozzarella, you have guy's named Steve who smell like pimpel creme.
And as I state below, in my employment term there, I was responsible for some spam "atrocities" as well.
For example, taking very legit open source software, used for anti-spam filtering, and re-wrote a section of it, so that we could run "copy" through it to be able to 'proof' all our outgoing mail. This way, nothing would be marked as spam, via the world's spam filters.
Spam is a filthy business, but its very profitable. Most of our greatest minds are unemployed, and desperate for work in the industry ( I was ). What's to stop them from taking a big fat pay cheque from an evil company? At least then you're working, and fed. And driving a bmw.
Hell, even dell is in on the action, check out http://www.ironport.com. Look at the C60 and the A60..
The IronPort C60: Powering and Protecting Business Email
The IronPort C60: Powering and Protecting Business Email
aka, what was given with the right hand, shall be taken away with the left.
Legal big-business sponsored racketeering.
Spam isn't going away, it's not possible.
Speaking as the former network admin for a "Direct Marketing" aka "Opt-in Mailing" company, the industry is evil.
I've dealt with the hosting in China for the purposes of sending mail, changing ip's daily, thousands of domains, and the use of OpenSource anti-spam software in some very questionalable situations. (Using an anti-spam filter to 'review copy' to make sure its not going to be picked up)
And from all my experience, There's only one thing I can say. The mailers will get around what ever you do, be it state or personal. If you have an email account, regardless of the fact if you give it out, it -will- be mailed to. E-Mail addresses are a super-hot commodity.
Especially if you can get them with the opt-in information attached.
Think of it this way. You opt-in to company A, company A sells your address to Company B. You opt-out to company A. Company B doesnt care. Company B could have already sold your info to Company C, D and E.
Opt-out's are funny, they basically just prove that you're a real live person using that computer.. true spammers love to buy listings that contain those addresses, they dont give a crap if you opt-ed out, they just want live email addresses.
So in short, you want a spam free email account? good luck, do what most people do, create a hotmail account for a spam account, and have a real account that you use for real email.
I've seen databases of 35 million mailable e-mail addresses, and trust me, thats a highly profitable database (and no, I dont have a copy, so dont ask, heh.)
It'd be nice to have this up here in the wild and wintery north.
I"ve swapped cell phone companys 3 times in the past 2 years, and there are some people I would love to hear from that I couldn't reach, that only have my old number.
ALso the annoyance of updating all my online info with my new cell #, is evil.
All the old resumes I sent that are sitting in dusty cabinets rotting are now not only old, but old and horribly wrong.
This service would flat out rock. I'd love to see the possibility of each person havign a cell # for life, that would rock.
Kinda like our own personal IP address:) We dont want to hear from somebody? fine, blocklists:)
Spyware is in all honesty worse they anything that a computer security expert talking about how holding down the shift key bypasses some annoying autrun functions.
Spyware is flat out worse then most spam. Spam, you just dont open it. Spyware comes bundled with a lot of apps you want. And most times, you aren't even told what youre installing contains spyware.
This should be the big target of The Gov'.
I say find the people spying on me, and stop them.
hell.. More quotes from normal people who think this is retarded.
"The craft could keep flying as long as the energy source, in this case the laser beam, is uninterrupted "
My Girlfriend - "ok, so if say a bird flies under you, you crash?"
Energy/Aeronautics Guy - Hell yea, It can only fly in circles, otherwise the horizon will eventually cut the beam...
If they used batterys to store the power, they could maintain it for a bit.. maybe if the laser was a carrier for navigational data, that might be kinda cool, but a bug or bird or plane or flying debris could corrupt the data and crash it... fuckin lasers are only good for two things, cd/dvd and helping me to aim my MP5 RAS at the fucks who write these articles...
BUT THEN IT WOULD HAVE ONBOARD POWER!!! isn't that the cardinal sin of aeronautics??? "
Quote from a friend of mine who does a lot of energy based "work"
"they claim "it has been necessary for all aircraft to carry onboard fuel -- whether in the form of batteries, fuel, solar cells," a laser hitting a "photovoltaic" cell is the exact same idea as the sun hitting a "solar cell" which by its very nature is photovoltaic... "
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basically, flawed logic?
If one assumes that all terrrorists are zealots (which they're not, some are merc's, but lets assume) then it can be assumed that obviously all zealots are terrorists...
heh, yea.. right.
It depeneds on the section of media you approach. Post pro microsoft comments on /. and youd most likely be boo'd from here to hell.
Posting comments that scrutinise the linux community on a site populated by a god section of that community will generally draw fire. If this were on a microsoft site, it would be refered to as 'microsoft sponsored propoganda'
In this case, the medium affects the message. While refering to linux zealots as terrorists is taking it to the extreme, he does raise some good points. people are very combative about their os choices.. and some can't explain why.
My opinion on your opinion is that in my opinion I was speaking in jest :)
But thats just my opinion.
Moderators:
And please dont mark this as trolling, i'm just being polite.
Heh, excellent point :)
Its like microsoft, and linux.
Microsoft will attempt to give you a good user experience. Linux will actually deliver.
oh wait.. am i a zealot? damn.
woah, he really wants to get flamed eh?
One has to wonder about somebody who is critical of a zealot..
They can do that with computers now? wow!
;) /sarcasm
And I thought it was just rice boys who had those issues with leds
According to the points mentioned in your theroy, the odd's of IBM reverting to the idea of a sco buyout are slim. So in a universe where all things are possible, but not probable, your scenario is moot :)
SCO possibly always wanted a buyout, but at this juncture, it seems unlikley for both competitors to back down and take the easy way out. ie, a simple buyout.
To many people have become involved to make a clean escape from this problem possible.
Then again, neither of us have the luck (or misfortune) of being lawyers/exec's in the case. Possibly the most probable action will be overridden by the randomness of the human mind.
We will see in time, won't we? Care for a friendly wager as to the outcome?
Hah. I Totally agree! Gates is well known for making grand sweeping statements... that can never be held to be true.
"are they still in business?" Rather then jsut say 'no we're not doing that' he decided to go with overkill. He uses the phrase "to be honest", in a statement that can't be true. This is why the world isnt hopping on the Microsoft bandwagon.
"To be honest, I haven't heard from Phoenix Technologies for over five years," Gates said. "Are they still in business? The BIOS will always be separated from the operating system. Actually, it's gotten out of date. If you run Windows XP, it calls very little of the BIOS."
Well now.. there's an Idea I havnt heard proposed yet..
IBM has the money, why not offer SCO a buyout?
SCO would go either one of three ways..
1. they'd accept
2. they'd (hah) politely decline
3. they'd decline, then tell the media that IBM has no faith in their case due to the attempted buyout, and just whore up more media time
I hate to dis such a great idea, but SCO is pre-destined to choose 3.
Being Joe Everyguy doesnt make him boring, reading that article makes me wanna have a beer with him.
:)
I think that unlike gates, with his numerous security gurads watching, I could have an honest talk with the guy, and forget that he's the definitive linux guru, and just get drunk
Wow, this might turn out to be the start of the 21st centurys witchhung. If only mcarthy was still around, he'd be for this like crazy.
How many lives are you prepared to ruin? And I'm serious, the media will be all over this like crazy, pulling ideas from it like crazy, and doing the finger pointing. Along with the feds being cranky, you'll have wrecked an innocent life. Wow, not the greatest idea eh?
Totally, this is just an aol plot to grab as much revenue as they can off the netscape name.
Pretty standard for most businesses. Still pretty confusing for novices unfortunately.
You tell em Brother,
:)
I got the same reaction from my peers. Until I showed them this article. Then they all started talking about it like its the first time anybody ever mentioned it. Heh, Ingrates
I've noticied a lot of talk about speed, but not a lot of the thermal effects of this drive.
Questions that need to be asked are:
1. How will the temp of this drive effect system ambient temp.
2. Where will it be mounted to get maximum airflow over it
3. What would be the reccomended amount/speed of fans to cover this puppy.
Link
Not to sound rude, but If only microsoft would cooperate a little more with it
If they co-operate, people start buying xbox's (yay). The money isn't in selling the consoles, theyre already selling them at a loss. The money is in selling the games.
MS is -very- money motivated, selling their systems at a loss to make it back with the lucrative game sales, good idea.
Selling consoles that people can run linux on (their competition) without ever buying real xbox games? bad idea.
The xbox might have standard pc hardware in it, but as such, its not sold as a PC. It's a game platform, and thereby seperate from the normal world of pc's. MS doesnt have to do anything for the linux community, except laugh at us when we brag about violating copyrights.
Wouldn't it be cool is sco teamed up with ms to sue us for modding our xboxs? As if the linux community isnt being annoyed enough at this time.
Linux + Xbox = bad idea. It's all well and good that you can do it, but.. why would you want to?
Go out, buy a pc for a little more, and install linux.
Linux on a 1/2 assed device isnt super cool, its just dull.
- devils advocate btw
I've Said it before, I"ll say it again.
:)
Spam is that its -Very- big money. Next only to porn. If you spam about porn.. wow
Spammers will do -anything- to get around what ever you're doing. A spam company that I used to work for, would sell anti-spam programs which promised to get rid of spam, per a monlty subscription.
If you wanted to get out of thise "service", and you wern't inclined to read your TOS, you neglected to notice the fact that you would be subscriped to all of their lists upon termination of the contract.
This is basically racketeering.
This isn't new, this type of service has been avaiable since the dawn of time. A "Protection" service.
Aka "thats a Nice e-mail account you have there, pitty if it got spammed to hell".
Except guy's Named Guido whose breath smells like mozzarella, you have guy's named Steve who smell like pimpel creme.
And as I state below, in my employment term there, I was responsible for some spam "atrocities" as well.
For example, taking very legit open source software, used for anti-spam filtering, and re-wrote a section of it, so that we could run "copy" through it to be able to 'proof' all our outgoing mail. This way, nothing would be marked as spam, via the world's spam filters.
Spam is a filthy business, but its very profitable. Most of our greatest minds are unemployed, and desperate for work in the industry ( I was ). What's to stop them from taking a big fat pay cheque from an evil company? At least then you're working, and fed. And driving a bmw.
Hell, even dell is in on the action, check out http://www.ironport.com. Look at the C60 and the A60..
The IronPort C60: Powering and Protecting Business Email
The IronPort C60: Powering and Protecting Business Email
aka, what was given with the right hand, shall be taken away with the left.
Legal big-business sponsored racketeering.
Spam isn't going away, it's not possible.
Speaking as the former network admin for a "Direct Marketing" aka "Opt-in Mailing" company, the industry is evil.
I've dealt with the hosting in China for the purposes of sending mail, changing ip's daily, thousands of domains, and the use of OpenSource anti-spam software in some very questionalable situations. (Using an anti-spam filter to 'review copy' to make sure its not going to be picked up)
And from all my experience, There's only one thing I can say. The mailers will get around what ever you do, be it state or personal. If you have an email account, regardless of the fact if you give it out, it -will- be mailed to. E-Mail addresses are a super-hot commodity.
Especially if you can get them with the opt-in information attached.
Think of it this way. You opt-in to company A, company A sells your address to Company B. You opt-out to company A. Company B doesnt care. Company B could have already sold your info to Company C, D and E.
Opt-out's are funny, they basically just prove that you're a real live person using that computer.. true spammers love to buy listings that contain those addresses, they dont give a crap if you opt-ed out, they just want live email addresses.
So in short, you want a spam free email account? good luck, do what most people do, create a hotmail account for a spam account, and have a real account that you use for real email.
I've seen databases of 35 million mailable e-mail addresses, and trust me, thats a highly profitable database (and no, I dont have a copy, so dont ask, heh.)
Check out my post regarding the 32 clustered 486's thats in use right now.. heh, calc'ing PI, but still, they're in use :)
Heh, I'm mega Old School.
32 Clustered 486 sx 40's
4 x 1mb Simm
100 mb ibm hd's
Trident svga Video Card
No Monitors
Running Linux
System 1 Specs:
"Mortal"
Dual Pentium III 650
1 64 Meg DIMM
nVIDIA Riva TNT2
KDS @ View 15" Monitor
Mitsumi CR-4802TE
Quantum Fireball 6 gig HD
Quantum Big Foot 2.5 gig HD
Samsung DVD-ROM SD-606
LT 56.6 Lin Modem
Realtek 8029 PCI Ethernet NIC
Sound Blaster PCI64
Brooktree Fusion TV Tuner Card
PS/2 Mouse / Keyboard
Cannon BJC-2000 Printer
Running Redhat Linux 9.0
System 2 Specs:
"Toady"
Cyrix 6x86 166+ at 133MHz
2x16 Meg SIMM
2x8 Meg SIMM
S3 Virdge DX
SOCOS 15" Monitor
2x NEC CD-ROM
Quantum 1.01 Gig HD
44x Atapi CD-ROM
Realtek 8029 PCI Ethernet NIC
ESS-1868 PNP AudioDrive
Serial Mouse / KB
Running Redhat Linux 4.2
System 3 Specs:
"Wombat"
Tandy 1000 HX
256k Conventional
Component Video
Component KB
Tandy 1000 RGB Monitor
Mouse Expansion Card
Serial Mouse
Tandy 1000 DMP 132
Running Desk Mate 2.0
It'd be nice to have this up here in the wild and wintery north.
:) We dont want to hear from somebody? fine, blocklists :)
:)
I"ve swapped cell phone companys 3 times in the past 2 years, and there are some people I would love to hear from that I couldn't reach, that only have my old number.
ALso the annoyance of updating all my online info with my new cell #, is evil.
All the old resumes I sent that are sitting in dusty cabinets rotting are now not only old, but old and horribly wrong.
This service would flat out rock. I'd love to see the possibility of each person havign a cell # for life, that would rock.
Kinda like our own personal IP address
Firewalls for phones..
Just a quick little note. I've read it, and it's good.
:) and It was easy to read, adn very informative.
I'm a pretty smart guy ("hah, yea right"-My Co-Worker)
I'd put this on my top 10 list, maybe even top 5.
Good work dude.
You've got an insanly good point.
Spyware is in all honesty worse they anything that a computer security expert talking about how holding down the shift key bypasses some annoying autrun functions.
Spyware is flat out worse then most spam. Spam, you just dont open it. Spyware comes bundled with a lot of apps you want. And most times, you aren't even told what youre installing contains spyware.
This should be the big target of The Gov'.
I say find the people spying on me, and stop them.
Isn't that what the FBI/CIA/NSA are for?
hell..
More quotes from normal people who think this is retarded.
"The craft could keep flying as long as the energy source, in this case the laser beam, is uninterrupted "
My Girlfriend - "ok, so if say a bird flies under you, you crash?"
Energy/Aeronautics Guy - Hell yea, It can only fly in circles, otherwise the horizon will eventually cut the beam...
If they used batterys to store the power, they could maintain it for a bit.. maybe if the laser was a carrier for navigational data, that might be kinda cool, but a bug or bird or plane or flying debris could corrupt the data and crash it... fuckin lasers are only good for two things, cd/dvd and helping me to aim my MP5 RAS at the fucks who write these articles...
BUT THEN IT WOULD HAVE ONBOARD POWER!!! isn't that the cardinal sin of aeronautics???
"
Quote from a friend of mine who does a lot of energy based "work"
:)
"they claim "it has been necessary for all aircraft to carry onboard fuel -- whether in the form of batteries, fuel, solar cells,"
a laser hitting a "photovoltaic" cell is the exact same idea as the sun hitting a "solar cell" which by its very nature is photovoltaic... "
I dropped a lot of his cursing
My crowbar has a name. Trogdor, the Smashinator