Almost the point I was trying to make, with a different conclusion. The end part isn't the most important part in my opinion. The entire process is equally valuable. And my main point was that the end product doesn't have to be useful to be of value, as you have shown with your example.
Yep in making fun of the original poster's there I screwed up my own, oh well.
Yes, I would, and have written code for fun for machines I couldn't get at, then I wrote emulators for them, most of them unfinished. I never said that the final product is completely unimportant, it's another piece of the fun, that doesn't mean it has to do something useful, which is the point I was making.
The best coders are the ones who truly love every aspect of it, actually that goes for anything, the best are usually the ones who love the whole process, beginning to end, it doesn't matter what the end is.
Hours of coding time spent to make [...] program that doesn't do anything useful
Write code for the fun of it, because it's something you love to do. The end result is not the most important part. That's a business mentality. And when their complete, there will be a good number of people who play with them, enjoying them by hacking away on old systems just for the pleasure of it. Not to mention preserving, and introducing the history of the hobby for another generation.
Not necessarily, there's value in viewing Star Wars or anthing else on varying levels. Check out Philosophy and the Simpsons for a good explanation of using media that probably wasn't intended for in depth analysis as a vehichle for exploration of other topics. This shouldn't take away from enjoying Star Wars on it's pulp level, to each his own.
True sci-fi stories cannot be lifted into another genre. I wish I could remember which book I have that discussed this., but science fiction involves technology in such a way that it is inseperable from the story. The meat of the story may be about the human interest aspects, but the reason the story even exists because of the science aspect. I apologize, I'm not doing the essay justice, especially not in this limited space. That doesn't make Star Wars any less of a story, it's just not science fiction, it is science fantasy.
As far as the story being trite, I'm sorry it is. I've seen it over and over before Star Wars and have seen it after. It's a simple variation on the "Little Tailor" story, a simple man who becomes a hero ( pointed out nicely in the book I can't remember). Farmer's son becomes hero of the Alliance.
I think there's a lot more background to explain before begin to understand. DirectX is not part of the OS either. It's an additional layer to abstract the process of drawing on the screen to an even further level from bare hardware. It's a library for user app use. A series of API's are not the OS, the OS is the lowest level above bare metal necessary for operation of the machine. GUI's ect. are part of the total environment, not the OS.
Star Wars, love it to death, really isn't even pulp sci-fi, it's a trite story with sci-fi trappings that could just as easily been a fantasy, or a western or whatever. It just happens to have a sci-fi-ish skin. Technically sci-fantasy even, since the science aspect isn't even considered. But I still love it, love the sci-fi skin, love how campy it is even. Hell I even love Episode one, well, sort of at least.
Let's get something straight. An Operating System is not crippled by not knowing how to render html. That is a user level application. Just because Windows bundles it all together to try and dominate the market doesn't change the facts. Removing html rendering doesn't make the OS less functional, it makes the application level less functional. If MS wants to write that kind of software, then it needs to be a seaparate thing. Just like office, or whatever. Windows the OS is a completely different thing than Windows the applications. The fact that they are so intertwined is a symptom of bad coding, which is most likely intentional in this case.
Yeah, not to mention their media, styles, and trends are heavily american influenced. I doubt very much that they hate us. It's not France for christ's sake.
Compare the ratio that's just stupid. The X-Box has what 10 games, maybe one is good? The PS@ has how many games? PS2 has more good games than the X-Box has games. The ratio doesn't matter. The number of good games does. Not to mention the greater the number of games, the more developers willing to delevope, and the greater the likelihood of another great game coming out.
I think the detail remains. I was floored when, upon suprising a guard (and myself) in first person view in the shell, I popped off a round. It hit the radio as he was calling for backup. the radio started sparking and sputtering, the guard looked at it, shook it and threw it away. I'd say that's pretty good attention to detail throughout. Just out of curiosity, what makes the tanker episode better in your opinion? They feel pretty much the same to me.
Anyone who doesn't believe that the primary demographic for Nintendo is children is deluding themselves. From cartoony graphics, to simplistic gameplay, they target kids. There isn't a single game on Nintendo that can even come close to the depth and intricacy of MGS2, let alone FF. Don't get me wrong, the Cube is worth having, but I will always prefer the PS2 games.
To each his own, I've played all those games on Nintendo, and none compared to FFX, or any FF for that matter, even VII had me more enveloped than almost any other game I've played on any system.
I recently played SC for the first time, I have to say I wasn't impressed. Granted I don't like fighting games, but the graphics don't compare to Virtua Fighter 4. I'm not sure about the gameplay. I did beat it first time playing, and any game that will allow you to win through button mashing gets low marks in my book. Maybe my POV is based on my attidtude towards games. FPS are boring, fighting games are easy and boring, and sports games are easy, boring and mindless. At least in my opinion. I prefer more in depth games than these types generally provide. So it's entirely possible that other systems shine in arenas other than those that I judge from.
I'd say it's established. I was pissed when I found out the put the next one on the X-Box rather than PS2 like they originally planned. Quirky or not, it's definitely one of the greatest games ever. Of course, comparing anything to FF is pointless. As far as MGS, personally I'd rather play Oddworld, but I'll have to wait for a PC port I guess.
I want the Cube, but they don't have a single game out right now that's a must have for me. No FF, no MGS, not to mention their games tend to be kiddie games. I'm not sure where you get off saying Nintendo has higher quality games than PS2, I'll put FFX up against anything the Nintendo has out. Hopefully a new Zelda, or Metroid will come out and I can finally justify buying one. (Although I didn see a kick ass looking game at the import store the other day, so I'm starting to give in allready).
You obviously haven't looked at a DC and a PS2 side by side. I love the DC but it doesn't compare at all to the PS2. And the X-Box, for all it's "cutting edge tech" the games are no better than PS2. And guess what, better games, and more games with the PS2 than I ever will with the X-Box. I've played both systems and made my decision. Haven't regretted it since.
The games series argument is a weak one. X-Box got Oddworld, as well and several other established series. The problem is they took the Sega route. Too damn slow to get out quality games. Gamers are going to go for the system with the biggest library. Why? 1) It's more visible, 2) the probability of a great game is higher when the library is larger.
I hope the Oddworld guys decide to re-qrite Munch's Odd. for PS2, I wanted to play it badly, but I refuse to buy an X-Box.
All your examples are directly connected to technology in such a way that enables easier copying of the media, not just an easier way to get the product out to consumers. And being intricately linked to technology, the government is treating it differently because of the rampant ignorance and corruption that exists.
Selling used books was ok before, it's still ok. Just because Amazon found an efficient way to raise their profits by reselling books, does not give publishers the right to ban resale. If they want to boycott Amazon, that's perfectly within their rights, but legal action is absurd. Let the money do the talking, what's more valuable to Amazon, the customers, or the direct links.
Not to mention that you're talking about future possibilites. Right now there is no legislation proposed to benefit publishers by banning resale of books.
No there won't. That's just an absurd conclusion. It's allready established law the resale of a product is ok, not that anyone has a right to tell me what I can or cannot sell.
And more importantly, not like they tried to pass legislation banning the sale of used books. Let them cry all they want right. Amazon has to make a business decision, which is more important to their business, the prominent used book link, or the free advertising. I'd place my bets that the free advertising is creating more revenue, but that's just a guess.
No you didn't read my post. I said not a single RH box has been compromised. I have had boxes hacked, but not yet has a single RH box. And before you try putting even more words in my mouth, I'm not even saying that RH is inherently more secure, just that the 75% statistic is bull shit.
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Almost the point I was trying to make, with a different conclusion. The end part isn't the most important part in my opinion. The entire process is equally valuable. And my main point was that the end product doesn't have to be useful to be of value, as you have shown with your example.
Yes, I would, and have written code for fun for machines I couldn't get at, then I wrote emulators for them, most of them unfinished. I never said that the final product is completely unimportant, it's another piece of the fun, that doesn't mean it has to do something useful, which is the point I was making.
The best coders are the ones who truly love every aspect of it, actually that goes for anything, the best are usually the ones who love the whole process, beginning to end, it doesn't matter what the end is.
Hours of coding time spent to make [...] program that doesn't do anything useful
Write code for the fun of it, because it's something you love to do. The end result is not the most important part. That's a business mentality. And when their complete, there will be a good number of people who play with them, enjoying them by hacking away on old systems just for the pleasure of it. Not to mention preserving, and introducing the history of the hobby for another generation.
Not necessarily, there's value in viewing Star Wars or anthing else on varying levels. Check out Philosophy and the Simpsons for a good explanation of using media that probably wasn't intended for in depth analysis as a vehichle for exploration of other topics. This shouldn't take away from enjoying Star Wars on it's pulp level, to each his own.
As far as the story being trite, I'm sorry it is. I've seen it over and over before Star Wars and have seen it after. It's a simple variation on the "Little Tailor" story, a simple man who becomes a hero ( pointed out nicely in the book I can't remember). Farmer's son becomes hero of the Alliance.
I think there's a lot more background to explain before begin to understand. DirectX is not part of the OS either. It's an additional layer to abstract the process of drawing on the screen to an even further level from bare hardware. It's a library for user app use. A series of API's are not the OS, the OS is the lowest level above bare metal necessary for operation of the machine. GUI's ect. are part of the total environment, not the OS.
Star Wars, love it to death, really isn't even pulp sci-fi, it's a trite story with sci-fi trappings that could just as easily been a fantasy, or a western or whatever. It just happens to have a sci-fi-ish skin. Technically sci-fantasy even, since the science aspect isn't even considered. But I still love it, love the sci-fi skin, love how campy it is even. Hell I even love Episode one, well, sort of at least.
Let's get something straight. An Operating System is not crippled by not knowing how to render html. That is a user level application. Just because Windows bundles it all together to try and dominate the market doesn't change the facts. Removing html rendering doesn't make the OS less functional, it makes the application level less functional. If MS wants to write that kind of software, then it needs to be a seaparate thing. Just like office, or whatever. Windows the OS is a completely different thing than Windows the applications. The fact that they are so intertwined is a symptom of bad coding, which is most likely intentional in this case.
Yeah, not to mention their media, styles, and trends are heavily american influenced. I doubt very much that they hate us. It's not France for christ's sake.
Compare the ratio that's just stupid. The X-Box has what 10 games, maybe one is good? The PS@ has how many games? PS2 has more good games than the X-Box has games. The ratio doesn't matter. The number of good games does. Not to mention the greater the number of games, the more developers willing to delevope, and the greater the likelihood of another great game coming out.
I think the detail remains. I was floored when, upon suprising a guard (and myself) in first person view in the shell, I popped off a round. It hit the radio as he was calling for backup. the radio started sparking and sputtering, the guard looked at it, shook it and threw it away. I'd say that's pretty good attention to detail throughout. Just out of curiosity, what makes the tanker episode better in your opinion? They feel pretty much the same to me.
Anyone who doesn't believe that the primary demographic for Nintendo is children is deluding themselves. From cartoony graphics, to simplistic gameplay, they target kids. There isn't a single game on Nintendo that can even come close to the depth and intricacy of MGS2, let alone FF. Don't get me wrong, the Cube is worth having, but I will always prefer the PS2 games.
To each his own, I've played all those games on Nintendo, and none compared to FFX, or any FF for that matter, even VII had me more enveloped than almost any other game I've played on any system.
I recently played SC for the first time, I have to say I wasn't impressed. Granted I don't like fighting games, but the graphics don't compare to Virtua Fighter 4. I'm not sure about the gameplay. I did beat it first time playing, and any game that will allow you to win through button mashing gets low marks in my book. Maybe my POV is based on my attidtude towards games. FPS are boring, fighting games are easy and boring, and sports games are easy, boring and mindless. At least in my opinion. I prefer more in depth games than these types generally provide. So it's entirely possible that other systems shine in arenas other than those that I judge from.
I'd say it's established. I was pissed when I found out the put the next one on the X-Box rather than PS2 like they originally planned. Quirky or not, it's definitely one of the greatest games ever. Of course, comparing anything to FF is pointless. As far as MGS, personally I'd rather play Oddworld, but I'll have to wait for a PC port I guess.
Even established companies screw this up. The DC controllers blew, not necessarily size, but shape.
I want the Cube, but they don't have a single game out right now that's a must have for me. No FF, no MGS, not to mention their games tend to be kiddie games. I'm not sure where you get off saying Nintendo has higher quality games than PS2, I'll put FFX up against anything the Nintendo has out. Hopefully a new Zelda, or Metroid will come out and I can finally justify buying one. (Although I didn see a kick ass looking game at the import store the other day, so I'm starting to give in allready).
You obviously haven't looked at a DC and a PS2 side by side. I love the DC but it doesn't compare at all to the PS2. And the X-Box, for all it's "cutting edge tech" the games are no better than PS2. And guess what, better games, and more games with the PS2 than I ever will with the X-Box. I've played both systems and made my decision. Haven't regretted it since.
I hope the Oddworld guys decide to re-qrite Munch's Odd. for PS2, I wanted to play it badly, but I refuse to buy an X-Box.
Selling used books was ok before, it's still ok. Just because Amazon found an efficient way to raise their profits by reselling books, does not give publishers the right to ban resale. If they want to boycott Amazon, that's perfectly within their rights, but legal action is absurd. Let the money do the talking, what's more valuable to Amazon, the customers, or the direct links.
Not to mention that you're talking about future possibilites. Right now there is no legislation proposed to benefit publishers by banning resale of books.
No there won't. That's just an absurd conclusion. It's allready established law the resale of a product is ok, not that anyone has a right to tell me what I can or cannot sell.
And more importantly, not like they tried to pass legislation banning the sale of used books. Let them cry all they want right. Amazon has to make a business decision, which is more important to their business, the prominent used book link, or the free advertising. I'd place my bets that the free advertising is creating more revenue, but that's just a guess.
No you didn't read my post. I said not a single RH box has been compromised. I have had boxes hacked, but not yet has a single RH box. And before you try putting even more words in my mouth, I'm not even saying that RH is inherently more secure, just that the 75% statistic is bull shit.
I never said 1) that I was an admin, and 2) that I've never had a box hacked. Try again.