That's not the conclusion at all. The only conclusion you can draw from this joke, and it was a joke, is that Windows users are more likely to have to send their computers out. The subtext is that eventually it may be required that all Windows users have to send their computers out. And if you must try to pick apart a joke, try not to put words in my mouth, I never once mentioned Linux, and yet that seems to have worked it's way into your conclusion. In fact you came up with the Win vs. Linux concept, not me, and then you go on to refute it later.
Number one, it was a joke, the clue was the , and just to be certain a winking emoticon for those to slow to understand the grin. Secondly, I never once mentioned Linux, the clue was... that I never mentioned Linux. In the future I'd avoid assumptions it makes you look stupid.
No java the language runs in the java environment, otherwise known as the JVM. In the same way that you said programs written in Java run on the Java Environment. It's all semantics, the point is the java language is supposed (not always the case though) to be platform independent, but only because it will run on any environment with a JVM ported to it.
This is certainly implementable. Diskless terminals with a slot for a card with a micro drive on it.
It would be pretty cool. Even for home use, set up a server in a closet somewhere, Raid disk ect. Your card would hold desktop configs (or where to look for configs) and everything else would be stored on the server. You could save the current state of your desktop go to another terminal and pick up right where you left off. Come to think of it a microdrive is un-necessary. User name login with X11 would solve it. So all you really need is a HA server and some XTerms.
Or set up a raid array ask your disk server. Stick it in your closet, or ou on the net somewhere, and everything else could be a terminal. You could still end up with downtime, but not as much as you might otherwise.
No it's not tricky. At the time I had no choice. You're definition of spam is too rigid, and incorrect. The term originally had nothing to do with email. It began on Usenet when advertisers started cross posting crap regardless of interest. This opt-in bullshit only came along once spammers started hitting email accounts. It is un-wanted advertising that I can do nothing about... Spam.
It has nothing to do with having balls. It was a pre-condition of being able to pop that account. How difficult is that to understand. As far as I'm concerned it is spam. No different than another website that I visit that forces me to check an opt in box to continue.
..that if they are going this route they had better stop sending me spam. I allowed them to send me spam ONLY because it was a pre-requisite for POPing my account.
That's hopefully the key, that most employers are reasonable. Hopefully that is the case. I'm pretty sure that mine is. Hopefully Tilly just worked for one of the few bad ones.
As far as my responsibility goes to my company. I'm only responsible to them during work hours. I don't feel I should be held accountable or my free time. My private live is my private life. I didn't sell myself in bondage to a company, I sold the use of my skills. Skills they need. As a software engineer (I'm sure many other occupations as well) as soon as they feel it's not cost effective to keep me on I'm gone. Even when I work for a good company (which I do) business is business, so I understand this. But why should I allow them control over my private life?
Still yours. What are they going to do, extract the information from your brain? Not to mention there's no way to prove that you couldn't have learned it otherwise.
Equipment is fine but books? Nah. If I own the book it is mine, as is anything I learn from it. I believe that that issue has been defeated before. You learn a lot working for a company, but no corp. can claim ownership on that knowledge.
They should only have ownership dibs on stuff you did explicitly for work, and or on their equipment. Tell your boss straight up. I wrote a piece of software at home that would make this easier, I'd be more productive, but I'm not bringing it in until I have, in writing, that I own the software.
You bring up an interesting point. It should be illegal to sign away all ideas and inventions to anyone, that way employers couldn't even try it and potential employees wouldn't be held over a barrel to make a living. Where does the contract end? If I paint the next Mona Lisa is it the property of my employer? Or I write a book? Or I invent a new auto exhaust system? I doubt that the more far fetched challenges would hold up in court, but considering it's a corporation vs. an individual it's tough to fight.
Wow, I think I need to do some digging in MD labor law. Another poster also offered the suggestion that if you want to bring GPL work to use at your job, draw up a license contract before you do.
That's scary, and I worry about it all the time. I'm pretty sure my contract did say that only work in the company's field was owned by them. I guess what it boils down to is I'll double check my employment agreement before I ever do a major release of sofware under GPL. Hell, I'll release it anonymously if I have to. Maybe that's the next step, coders forced to release projects under psuedonymns to avoid draconian employment contracts.
It's/. unproductive arguments are what it's all about;0. Seriously, please moderate up. Forget any arguments about patriotism, how about humanitarianism. In an emergency, helping the people we pay to help us is a pretty damn good idea.
Wrong. Poor system could pose a threat to public health. If there were an info-terror war for example. Safety and security can never be wholly divided. You want to see examples of software safety/security issues? Read through the Risks Digest. The problem is that computing security is taken TOO lightly and is too often put in the hands of those who should not be incharge of any aspect of it.
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Then quit your bitching and moaning about what other people post. Instead of putting someone down for comments they make.
It's your right to be offended just as it's his right to say what he wants and my thought not to give a damn about either one of you.
That's not the conclusion at all. The only conclusion you can draw from this joke, and it was a joke, is that Windows users are more likely to have to send their computers out. The subtext is that eventually it may be required that all Windows users have to send their computers out. And if you must try to pick apart a joke, try not to put words in my mouth, I never once mentioned Linux, and yet that seems to have worked it's way into your conclusion. In fact you came up with the Win vs. Linux concept, not me, and then you go on to refute it later.
Number one, it was a joke, the clue was the , and just to be certain a winking emoticon for those to slow to understand the grin. Secondly, I never once mentioned Linux, the clue was... that I never mentioned Linux. In the future I'd avoid assumptions it makes you look stupid.
No java the language runs in the java environment, otherwise known as the JVM. In the same way that you said programs written in Java run on the Java Environment. It's all semantics, the point is the java language is supposed (not always the case though) to be platform independent, but only because it will run on any environment with a JVM ported to it.
It would be pretty cool. Even for home use, set up a server in a closet somewhere, Raid disk ect. Your card would hold desktop configs (or where to look for configs) and everything else would be stored on the server. You could save the current state of your desktop go to another terminal and pick up right where you left off. Come to think of it a microdrive is un-necessary. User name login with X11 would solve it. So all you really need is a HA server and some XTerms.
Didn't you read the post. He had to SEND HIS MACHINE AWAY to get fixed. Sounds like a dyed in the wool Windows user to me, hehe . ;o
Or set up a raid array ask your disk server. Stick it in your closet, or ou on the net somewhere, and everything else could be a terminal. You could still end up with downtime, but not as much as you might otherwise.
Technically java only runs on one platform. The JVM. ;)
No it's not tricky. At the time I had no choice. You're definition of spam is too rigid, and incorrect. The term originally had nothing to do with email. It began on Usenet when advertisers started cross posting crap regardless of interest. This opt-in bullshit only came along once spammers started hitting email accounts. It is un-wanted advertising that I can do nothing about... Spam.
It has nothing to do with having balls. It was a pre-condition of being able to pop that account. How difficult is that to understand. As far as I'm concerned it is spam. No different than another website that I visit that forces me to check an opt in box to continue.
I don't want it, I was forced to accept it in order to POP it. It's Spam.
..that if they are going this route they had better stop sending me spam. I allowed them to send me spam ONLY because it was a pre-requisite for POPing my account.
As far as my responsibility goes to my company. I'm only responsible to them during work hours. I don't feel I should be held accountable or my free time. My private live is my private life. I didn't sell myself in bondage to a company, I sold the use of my skills. Skills they need. As a software engineer (I'm sure many other occupations as well) as soon as they feel it's not cost effective to keep me on I'm gone. Even when I work for a good company (which I do) business is business, so I understand this. But why should I allow them control over my private life?
Still yours. What are they going to do, extract the information from your brain? Not to mention there's no way to prove that you couldn't have learned it otherwise.
Yeah, but I'm not going to list every project I've worked on, not to mention how does this cover projects you work on in the future.
Equipment is fine but books? Nah. If I own the book it is mine, as is anything I learn from it. I believe that that issue has been defeated before. You learn a lot working for a company, but no corp. can claim ownership on that knowledge.
heh I can see it now on the kernel credits, Ben Dover, I.P. Freely ect hehe
They should only have ownership dibs on stuff you did explicitly for work, and or on their equipment. Tell your boss straight up. I wrote a piece of software at home that would make this easier, I'd be more productive, but I'm not bringing it in until I have, in writing, that I own the software.
You bring up an interesting point. It should be illegal to sign away all ideas and inventions to anyone, that way employers couldn't even try it and potential employees wouldn't be held over a barrel to make a living. Where does the contract end? If I paint the next Mona Lisa is it the property of my employer? Or I write a book? Or I invent a new auto exhaust system? I doubt that the more far fetched challenges would hold up in court, but considering it's a corporation vs. an individual it's tough to fight.
Wow, I think I need to do some digging in MD labor law. Another poster also offered the suggestion that if you want to bring GPL work to use at your job, draw up a license contract before you do.
That's scary, and I worry about it all the time. I'm pretty sure my contract did say that only work in the company's field was owned by them. I guess what it boils down to is I'll double check my employment agreement before I ever do a major release of sofware under GPL. Hell, I'll release it anonymously if I have to. Maybe that's the next step, coders forced to release projects under psuedonymns to avoid draconian employment contracts.
It's /. unproductive arguments are what it's all about ;0. Seriously, please moderate up. Forget any arguments about patriotism, how about humanitarianism. In an emergency, helping the people we pay to help us is a pretty damn good idea.
Wrong. Poor system could pose a threat to public health. If there were an info-terror war for example. Safety and security can never be wholly divided. You want to see examples of software safety/security issues? Read through the Risks Digest. The problem is that computing security is taken TOO lightly and is too often put in the hands of those who should not be incharge of any aspect of it.
Don't get me wrong, qmail is good software, I use it personally. There are just changes that I feel need to be made, I've made them myself.