Honestly, did you read the post at all?.. The point in it being a MINIMUM security prison is that for the most part, bigger than you or smaller than you, they are not violent or threatening people. They're the people the government has said need to serve time, but pose no real risk to anybody. The word prison or jail isn't a synonym for rape and getting beatin.
Let me say from the start that I hesitated in posting this cause I don't know one way or the other about the details to the conspiracy charge, however..
I take the conspiracy charge to be there not so much as something to fall back on but somewhat in support of. Two things, first off the conspiracy charge could be construed that since he has already disseminated copyrighted works that he had plans to disseminate more, hence conspiracy. Or you can take it as the fact that they may not be able to prove anybody actually used the copyrighted works he helped to distribute however in helping run the ftp servers he did and providing the warez that people did download he entered into a conspiracy with the others to commit the infringement. "Yah judge we don't know for sure that anybody installed it, but Mr. Griffiths here did everything in his power to make people able to do it."
No flames, I don't know law that well.
Cute. You said I was wrong and then took it back all in one line. He started out where?.. Minimum security. Then he did what?.. Comitted another crime. Then was moved to higher security. I'm not bright, but if I'm in prison for comitting a crime, I like to believe I'm not gonna intentionally go and commit the same, or close the same crime that got me there. Especially if I'm in minimum security. All said and done, I promise you they served it in minimum security unless they did something dumb after being put in. You can safely assume I didn't just "hear" this from your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
Yah, I caught it. I was gonna toss a reference in as well but got too lazy. Honestly the only reason I replied was because I had a feeling a _lot_ of people don't realize just how lax the prison all these guys end up in are. Yes, you're restricted and spending months or years of your life somewhere you do not want to be and during that time not able to better your life in any real way. But with all the sentences all these guys got, the majority of them were not served in full and they had the ability to make outgoing calls, mail etc and a good deal more freedom than the traditional prison. It sucks to be in any prison, but if you had to be in any of them in the U.S. I'd say this type should rank as a top choice after house arrest..
Your memory is off by about 3 years. It was December 11 of 01, so more like 5 years 2 months. And most of them had served all their time except one of them which actually only finished serving his time last month. And if I read your comment right, DMCA and all that was in effect at that time.
Yes except all the people from the groups that've been convicted and gone to prison go to Minimum Security federal prison. In short they can walk off the prison property (in other words, not ass pounding prison) if they like but they automatically get 5 years tacked on to their sentence. That part I know for sure. I'd assume they then get moved up to a stricter prison if they do do that, but that I part I'm only speculating on.
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7 hours and 20 minutes. I honestly expected this within 30 minutes flat. Thanks for not letting me down.
Honestly, did you read the post at all? .. The point in it being a MINIMUM security prison is that for the most part, bigger than you or smaller than you, they are not violent or threatening people. They're the people the government has said need to serve time, but pose no real risk to anybody. The word prison or jail isn't a synonym for rape and getting beatin.
Let me say from the start that I hesitated in posting this cause I don't know one way or the other about the details to the conspiracy charge, however ..
I take the conspiracy charge to be there not so much as something to fall back on but somewhat in support of. Two things, first off the conspiracy charge could be construed that since he has already disseminated copyrighted works that he had plans to disseminate more, hence conspiracy. Or you can take it as the fact that they may not be able to prove anybody actually used the copyrighted works he helped to distribute however in helping run the ftp servers he did and providing the warez that people did download he entered into a conspiracy with the others to commit the infringement. "Yah judge we don't know for sure that anybody installed it, but Mr. Griffiths here did everything in his power to make people able to do it."
No flames, I don't know law that well.
Cute. You said I was wrong and then took it back all in one line. He started out where? .. Minimum security. Then he did what? .. Comitted another crime. Then was moved to higher security. I'm not bright, but if I'm in prison for comitting a crime, I like to believe I'm not gonna intentionally go and commit the same, or close the same crime that got me there. Especially if I'm in minimum security. All said and done, I promise you they served it in minimum security unless they did something dumb after being put in. You can safely assume I didn't just "hear" this from your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
Yah, I caught it. I was gonna toss a reference in as well but got too lazy. Honestly the only reason I replied was because I had a feeling a _lot_ of people don't realize just how lax the prison all these guys end up in are. Yes, you're restricted and spending months or years of your life somewhere you do not want to be and during that time not able to better your life in any real way. But with all the sentences all these guys got, the majority of them were not served in full and they had the ability to make outgoing calls, mail etc and a good deal more freedom than the traditional prison. It sucks to be in any prison, but if you had to be in any of them in the U.S. I'd say this type should rank as a top choice after house arrest..
Your memory is off by about 3 years. It was December 11 of 01, so more like 5 years 2 months. And most of them had served all their time except one of them which actually only finished serving his time last month. And if I read your comment right, DMCA and all that was in effect at that time.
Yes except all the people from the groups that've been convicted and gone to prison go to Minimum Security federal prison. In short they can walk off the prison property (in other words, not ass pounding prison) if they like but they automatically get 5 years tacked on to their sentence. That part I know for sure. I'd assume they then get moved up to a stricter prison if they do do that, but that I part I'm only speculating on.