well, actually one good point (not even a minor one). at least i can see that 4.4-RELEASE builds on AMD - there have been some issues with AMD processors and building FreeBSD kernels in the fairly recent past (at least for me).
i guess it depends on the environment you work in. i'm the only unix admin at my company, and the peecee admins and the IS management pretty much bow and scrape. no masochism involved here. not that i haven't been on the masochist side of things, though...:/
give me a break, aix is built from the ground up to use lvm (in fact, one has no choice in the matter), unlike that sad add-on the linux users wave about (or even the lvm system on HPUX or veritas on solaris).
oh, and just so you know, using aix and knowing how to administer it are two different things.
the odm is the information store for the entire system configuration on AIX. users, devices, software, etc. all stored inside. it's more comparable to the windoze registry than a backend replacement for a few ascii files.
hmmm, i guess i too should somehow inform my 7248-133 (PPC604 @ 133MHz) that it's not supposed to be running AIX very well, since it's quite the low-end desktop nowadays. runs AIX better than any version of Linux/PPC i was ever able to get booted on it (besides, i don't have to forgo X because the PPC framebuffer doesn't support the on-board video (S3Trio). I've messed with Linux on PPC, Sparc, and Intel architectures, and Linux most certainly has an affinity (and more maturity, to be sure) for ia32. just a fact of life, i guess. for portable free UNIX, i just use netbsd or openbsd, but of course smp support isn't a priority there. ah, well...
why did this get modded down? isn't this a valid question? maybe mandrake should be pursuing donations for continued support, rather than worry about being publicly owned. seems to work ok for the *BSDs (i know i'm not the only one donating to OpenBSD and FreeBSD).
Yeah, i did tech support last year for two months, and then went back to unix administration. tech support fucking sucks. My hat's off to anyone who can hack it, because i couldn't.
for what cpu architecture? oh, you mean of course ia32, since nothing else exists:P
reminds me of the incident at work when we were looking for a CICS programmer for AIX (don't ask), and the VP of MIS says (with a straight face, no less) "well, i can program in assembly language. i could write the app if we can't find anyone." i'm sure his assembly programs written for mvs (supposedly his technical background) would work great on aix on powerpc.
there's an even better defragmenter that's been around for a long time - dump your filesystem to tape, verify the dump, reformat the device, and restore the backup. and people wonder why/var should be on it's own filesystem...
the people who hire these admins with no experience are trying to save a dollar, that's the bottom line. of course, the added costs of extensive system downtime due to lack of troubleshooting skills and inappropriate configuration is never calculated into the total cost. it seems most employers just rely on the employee's hourly cost. that's too bad, really. the place where i work would rather have 10 incompetent employees who work for peanuts than 3 who know their stuff but cost more. oh well...
once again, shortsightedness and herd mentality prevails in IT.
yeah, but not aqua, while OTOH, it's easy to run XonX, which is what i do... of course, hardware requirements are pretty steep for os X, and it's not exactly a speed demon (at least not on my pwoerbook g4)
hmmm, i would think that this would be the one thing that terrasoft (producers of YDL) *could* copyright, since it's the assemblage of parts that forms a linux "distribution", right?
oh, reasons? um, it's slow, it has poor hardware support, poor application support, and quite a lot of the OS is apparently managed differently than solaris on sparc. this is in reference to solaris 8 on intel and solaris 7 on sparc. and there's a world of difference between solaris and aix - very little common ground in practical terms between aix and anything else... i can't see any practical reason to run solaris on intel, when there are many OSes that have better application support that do a much better job of support it. just my $0.02
do you remember when OS/2 was kind of popular (you might not, since it was before linux became mainstream)? did you read the license with any M$ product at that time? it restricted the product's use to windows, in an effort to keep that software from being used under Win-OS/2. check it out...
but really, who cares where the software ends up? i mean, the people who are developing these free applications aren't doing it because they're making a killing from it, so why would they stop if some other company uses it? if their code is rolled into a bloated, expensive, commerical product with bells and whistles tacked on, the developers can now claim that product so-and-so uses our codebase! save yourself some money and use our software instead.
you gpl motherfuckers don't seem to get it. i like using free software - it's usually better than the shite i have to use under AIX or Solaris, but you don't like me using it because i paid for the operating system? fuck you. if that is truly the philosphy of those who support the GPL, the sooner it dies the better for all of us. i hate to break it to you, but it's not an all-or-nothing world outside of your bedroom with your one peecee. Not everyone who'd rather run Linux or *BSD in the enterprise over AIX or Solaris can do so - and because we have no choice in the matter, we're to be penalized? fuck that, and a big "Fuck You" to RMS and any other motherfucker who supports this philosophy. Freedom means that you do NOT restrict, dipshits.
Who gives a shit who uses it? "Forget Sun, they're planning on MAKING MONEY, and they're using our software. that goes against our philosophy!". wtf?.
Please, let everyone involved in using or advocating free software/open-source software support this idea, so we can guarantee that we're always a niche market. Make sure that companies know that if they plan on making money, they can forget using anything that might be free or open. Force them to spend money on developing their own alternatives, or licensing them from some other bloated, slow, expensive corporation, so that in the end those of us who have to work with this shit are penalized.
By all means, discourage companies like Sun, one of the only respected and thus viable alternatives to M$ in the enterprise, from supporting open source and providing wider acceptance in the minds of the people who don't use this technology, but purchase it or manage those who do use it. Help keep us paying for all of this bloated, slow, commercial software, by forcing these companies to offer no alternatives. i hope that there aren't many others who share your philosophy, or at least that they're intelligent enough to keep their fucking mouths shut. No one is forcing you to purchase Sun, but you want to force anyone who does to not take advantage of free software.
With that kind of mindset, you must be a GPL supporter. Interested only in making sure that no one is allowed to do what you do NOT want, like some kind of over-controlling parent.
yeah, but not all employers will help you out - i griped a month ago at the lack of stuff i have to do, and specifically asked for additional work; still haven't heard anything from my dipshit "manager", whilst i've done just about everything productive i can think of. i thought they had wanted to get their money's worth for the contractor's rate i get paid, but i guess they don't mind pissing that money away.
actually, i would think that a rational religion would have no difficulties between a supreme power and science. i don't get it, is science a by-product of Her miraculous power, or a meaningless artifact of existance? i don't think so...
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well, actually one good point (not even a minor one). at least i can see that 4.4-RELEASE builds on AMD - there have been some issues with AMD processors and building FreeBSD kernels in the fairly recent past (at least for me).
i guess it depends on the environment you work in. i'm the only unix admin at my company, and the peecee admins and the IS management pretty much bow and scrape. no masochism involved here. not that i haven't been on the masochist side of things, though... :/
give me a break, aix is built from the ground up to use lvm (in fact, one has no choice in the matter), unlike that sad add-on the linux users wave about (or even the lvm system on HPUX or veritas on solaris).
oh, and just so you know, using aix and knowing how to administer it are two different things.
the odm is the information store for the entire system configuration on AIX. users, devices, software, etc. all stored inside. it's more comparable to the windoze registry than a backend replacement for a few ascii files.
hmmm, i guess i too should somehow inform my 7248-133 (PPC604 @ 133MHz) that it's not supposed to be running AIX very well, since it's quite the low-end desktop nowadays. runs AIX better than any version of Linux/PPC i was ever able to get booted on it (besides, i don't have to forgo X because the PPC framebuffer doesn't support the on-board video (S3Trio). I've messed with Linux on PPC, Sparc, and Intel architectures, and Linux most certainly has an affinity (and more maturity, to be sure) for ia32. just a fact of life, i guess. for portable free UNIX, i just use netbsd or openbsd, but of course smp support isn't a priority there. ah, well...
oops, that should be wouldn't...
well, it would be an OS tax, if MS manufactured computers...
why did this get modded down? isn't this a valid question? maybe mandrake should be pursuing donations for continued support, rather than worry about being publicly owned. seems to work ok for the *BSDs (i know i'm not the only one donating to OpenBSD and FreeBSD).
Yeah, i did tech support last year for two months, and then went back to unix administration. tech support fucking sucks. My hat's off to anyone who can hack it, because i couldn't.
reminds me of the incident at work when we were looking for a CICS programmer for AIX (don't ask), and the VP of MIS says (with a straight face, no less) "well, i can program in assembly language. i could write the app if we can't find anyone." i'm sure his assembly programs written for mvs (supposedly his technical background) would work great on aix on powerpc.
there's an even better defragmenter that's been around for a long time - dump your filesystem to tape, verify the dump, reformat the device, and restore the backup. and people wonder why /var should be on it's own filesystem...
once again, shortsightedness and herd mentality prevails in IT.
yeah, but not aqua, while OTOH, it's easy to run XonX, which is what i do... of course, hardware requirements are pretty steep for os X, and it's not exactly a speed demon (at least not on my pwoerbook g4)
hmmm, i would think that this would be the one thing that terrasoft (producers of YDL) *could* copyright, since it's the assemblage of parts that forms a linux "distribution", right?
SuSE does the same thing. bastards. but with the GPL, isn't it only required to distribute/make available the source code for any gpl programs?
my one consolation is that i didn't pay for the movie ticket.
oh, reasons? um, it's slow, it has poor hardware support, poor application support, and quite a lot of the OS is apparently managed differently than solaris on sparc. this is in reference to solaris 8 on intel and solaris 7 on sparc. and there's a world of difference between solaris and aix - very little common ground in practical terms between aix and anything else... i can't see any practical reason to run solaris on intel, when there are many OSes that have better application support that do a much better job of support it. just my $0.02
do you remember when OS/2 was kind of popular (you might not, since it was before linux became mainstream)? did you read the license with any M$ product at that time? it restricted the product's use to windows, in an effort to keep that software from being used under Win-OS/2. check it out...
you gpl motherfuckers don't seem to get it. i like using free software - it's usually better than the shite i have to use under AIX or Solaris, but you don't like me using it because i paid for the operating system? fuck you. if that is truly the philosphy of those who support the GPL, the sooner it dies the better for all of us. i hate to break it to you, but it's not an all-or-nothing world outside of your bedroom with your one peecee. Not everyone who'd rather run Linux or *BSD in the enterprise over AIX or Solaris can do so - and because we have no choice in the matter, we're to be penalized? fuck that, and a big "Fuck You" to RMS and any other motherfucker who supports this philosophy. Freedom means that you do NOT restrict, dipshits.
Please, let everyone involved in using or advocating free software/open-source software support this idea, so we can guarantee that we're always a niche market. Make sure that companies know that if they plan on making money, they can forget using anything that might be free or open. Force them to spend money on developing their own alternatives, or licensing them from some other bloated, slow, expensive corporation, so that in the end those of us who have to work with this shit are penalized.
By all means, discourage companies like Sun, one of the only respected and thus viable alternatives to M$ in the enterprise, from supporting open source and providing wider acceptance in the minds of the people who don't use this technology, but purchase it or manage those who do use it. Help keep us paying for all of this bloated, slow, commercial software, by forcing these companies to offer no alternatives. i hope that there aren't many others who share your philosophy, or at least that they're intelligent enough to keep their fucking mouths shut. No one is forcing you to purchase Sun, but you want to force anyone who does to not take advantage of free software.
With that kind of mindset, you must be a GPL supporter. Interested only in making sure that no one is allowed to do what you do NOT want, like some kind of over-controlling parent.
yeah, but not all employers will help you out - i griped a month ago at the lack of stuff i have to do, and specifically asked for additional work; still haven't heard anything from my dipshit "manager", whilst i've done just about everything productive i can think of. i thought they had wanted to get their money's worth for the contractor's rate i get paid, but i guess they don't mind pissing that money away.
well, it needs work... "... den choo wand ehbee ess edee."
stick with freebsd, or if you must have System V, debian or another linux distro.
actually, i would think that a rational religion would have no difficulties between a supreme power and science. i don't get it, is science a by-product of Her miraculous power, or a meaningless artifact of existance? i don't think so...
i always thought it was 'toe the line', as in perilously close to stepping over, but never quite doing so...