Do you realize that the only thing that keeps the Germans at bay is the fact that the oil and gas are still flowing? If they are to stop, they have to stop because the Ukraine govt. stopped them for deniability and it has to happen at the right time for Putin (just before winter) for maximum impact.
Did you notice that Putin still didn't retaliate on the sanctions? And the Germans basically did not join them? If we push too far and Putin decides that the sanctions actually hurt, he will turn off the gas and oil just before winter and start sending it through the new pipeline to China. That would be such a serious blow to EU though it would be as aggressive move as bombing few of the eastern EU countries. But Putin so far has no reason to hit on EU just because US is acting crazy. He is not a loon, despite the attempt to portray him as one.
Also some of the supply lines are actually bidirectional. Slovakia just reversed flow in some and is sending gas to Ukraine.
*I* am not telling Putin not to do that. As far as I am concerned, US started the conflict in Ukraine by investing $5 billion over 10 years into training and arming the Ukrainian opposition parties and basically paid full salaries to people who took part int he coup to depose a legal government. So whatever Putin does in retaliation, it has been provoked and falls fully on the shoulders of the US state department, ie. John Kerry, who oversaw triggering the coup and Condoleezza Rice, who started the program. Either way he is not going to get to the pre-Maidan state so the US wins this no matter how you look at it or whatever Putin does.
As for the US government, didn't we just establish they are amoral hypocrites?
Oh, it absolutely should be pointed out. Everything possible should be done about bringing light to drone strikes and every attempt made at ending it.
You should not be naive though, about what and how can end it. US government is the only one who can end the program. Saying it is amoral does not matter to US government. Saying it creates more terrorists does not matter to the US government. Collateral damage does not matter to the US government. The only thing that could potentially matter to them is the US citizenship. Everything else falls into the totally justifiable grey area.
That won't happen. When it starts happening the US military will go in and sort out the place no matter where that is. That is how the tyranny of superior military power works. US is the world policeman, welcome to the police world.:D
You must not be american or you could not even utter such an obvious non-sense. Citizenship is the only thing that matters. It is the only thing that could potentially sway the Congress, any other consideration is irrelevant.
Is this state of affairs amoral? Yes. Should it be as you say? Yes. But it isn't and wishing so won't make it so.
Yes, professional journalists, those working for one of the 5 big corporations, those completely under editorial control of the money that bough his ticket to state welfare in the first place. Those.
Kerry is a lier in chief and I would respect that. All the secretaries of state are supposed to do is lie. But he is not even good at that. Everyone can see right through his lies, whether it is on domestic affairs or foreign. Just look at his take on Ukraine. It is not even believable by the little people who still believe in Santa Claus. Come on, lets at least find someone for the job who can lie well.
But 50% people watch and believe Fox News in US. Virtually nobody trusts the state media in Russia. That is a big difference. Every lie has two participants, the lier and the believer. And in Russia there are simply no more believers for the propaganda, unlike US, evidenced by your comments.
And we were talking about spying and privacy violations and I can assure you that US is now in fact much worse in this regard than Russia today.
Not quite, it is just that middle class in California makes $100k a year. Look at the average salaries of BART employees for example. More than 2/3 are north of $100k. Family income of $200k a year is solid upper middle class level. You don't start to even think about the term "rich", until you make near to $500k a year per household.
ACA among other things expands the Medicaid program you are so fond of. Except in states where Republican governors play politics with people's health. Imagine you were earning just enough not to qualify for Medicaid.
Your comment, dear sir, is strangely familiar. I've heard it somewhere before. Ah, I remember, the Spanish Inquisition. No, no, I think it was even earlier, yeah, the Constance Council: "John Huss remained ardent in his faith in God and in his faith in God’s Word. At his trial, he was given the opportunity to recant. He would not do so. A large procession of people led him away to the place where he would be burned at the stake."
They should learn from US that this doesn't work. Why don't they simply label them as whacko and conspiracy theorists and let them run their mouth off. It's not like they can do anything. By blocking them, they just give credibility to what they write. The freedom of speech in US is such a great tool of mass control. See, if things were bad, we wouldn't let you speak, like the Russian or Chinese do, so clearly, we are the good guys, no story here, move on. So much better approach. Same with freedom of movement. Yeah, you can go anywhere you like, but please make sure you get vaccinated for this two page long list of deadly diseases and check with the embassy for the terrorist activity in your destination. Oh, you changed your mind and will go to Hawaii? Good. Why deny issuing passports when 96% of people won't even ask for them with just a little bit of scare tactics and squeezing the extra money out of population. Then just cut back vacation days to 0 and no problem.
Russia is so backward. Freedom propagandized is the key to real enslavement.
Why not "gamify" the satelite feed and turn it into an action scene in your favorite FPS game? They can release it, on scoreboards pick the top 5% gamers and connect their consoles to the real world scenarios. Don't even need soldiers to do the work, no PTSD, nobody even knows. Next time your game is free to play, financed by DARPA grant, you know what you are doing:)
Last two years I've worked 100 hour weeks. 16 hours a day, 2 hours for commute / shower, 4-5 hours of sleep. 6 days a week, sometimes Sundays. I've counted 9000 hours in two years. Of course, now I am slowing down. But let me tell you one thing: 60 hour week is just a breeze. That would almost feel like vacation.
When people write shit like you, it is mostly just men. If you count all the things my mom had to do to take care of our family, she's worked this hard for at least 20 years of her life. It can be done and it is routinely done. Actually when I think of it, 90% of people before 1800 had worked like that. Farm life can be a bitch. So right keep whining. Don't understand how someone could call you insightful.
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Do you realize that the only thing that keeps the Germans at bay is the fact that the oil and gas are still flowing? If they are to stop, they have to stop because the Ukraine govt. stopped them for deniability and it has to happen at the right time for Putin (just before winter) for maximum impact.
Did you notice that Putin still didn't retaliate on the sanctions? And the Germans basically did not join them? If we push too far and Putin decides that the sanctions actually hurt, he will turn off the gas and oil just before winter and start sending it through the new pipeline to China. That would be such a serious blow to EU though it would be as aggressive move as bombing few of the eastern EU countries. But Putin so far has no reason to hit on EU just because US is acting crazy. He is not a loon, despite the attempt to portray him as one.
Also some of the supply lines are actually bidirectional. Slovakia just reversed flow in some and is sending gas to Ukraine.
*I* am not telling Putin not to do that. As far as I am concerned, US started the conflict in Ukraine by investing $5 billion over 10 years into training and arming the Ukrainian opposition parties and basically paid full salaries to people who took part int he coup to depose a legal government. So whatever Putin does in retaliation, it has been provoked and falls fully on the shoulders of the US state department, ie. John Kerry, who oversaw triggering the coup and Condoleezza Rice, who started the program. Either way he is not going to get to the pre-Maidan state so the US wins this no matter how you look at it or whatever Putin does.
As for the US government, didn't we just establish they are amoral hypocrites?
Oh, it absolutely should be pointed out. Everything possible should be done about bringing light to drone strikes and every attempt made at ending it.
You should not be naive though, about what and how can end it. US government is the only one who can end the program. Saying it is amoral does not matter to US government. Saying it creates more terrorists does not matter to the US government. Collateral damage does not matter to the US government. The only thing that could potentially matter to them is the US citizenship. Everything else falls into the totally justifiable grey area.
International Law, the thing that only applies to you if you are not American.
That won't happen. When it starts happening the US military will go in and sort out the place no matter where that is. That is how the tyranny of superior military power works. US is the world policeman, welcome to the police world. :D
You must not be american or you could not even utter such an obvious non-sense. Citizenship is the only thing that matters. It is the only thing that could potentially sway the Congress, any other consideration is irrelevant.
Is this state of affairs amoral? Yes. Should it be as you say? Yes. But it isn't and wishing so won't make it so.
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -Thomas Jefferson.
Yes, professional journalists, those working for one of the 5 big corporations, those completely under editorial control of the money that bough his ticket to state welfare in the first place. Those.
Kerry is a lier in chief and I would respect that. All the secretaries of state are supposed to do is lie. But he is not even good at that. Everyone can see right through his lies, whether it is on domestic affairs or foreign. Just look at his take on Ukraine. It is not even believable by the little people who still believe in Santa Claus. Come on, lets at least find someone for the job who can lie well.
... and let me tell you, if Cyber War replaces Cold War, they are winning this time...
iWatch anyone?
That's exactly what I am talking about, you actually do believe the state propaganda and then even spread it around like this.
Gays in Russia face considerably less hardship than in South Carolina or Georgia. And its only couple years when it was true on Federal level as well.
But go ahead, feel proud of yourself: "Yeah, I've been a gay basher all my life, but I'm totally not anymore since yesterday. Go me! USA USA!"
But 50% people watch and believe Fox News in US. Virtually nobody trusts the state media in Russia. That is a big difference. Every lie has two participants, the lier and the believer. And in Russia there are simply no more believers for the propaganda, unlike US, evidenced by your comments.
And we were talking about spying and privacy violations and I can assure you that US is now in fact much worse in this regard than Russia today.
You guys just assume as a fact that Russia is worse than US. I don't think that is true anymore.
Not quite, it is just that middle class in California makes $100k a year. Look at the average salaries of BART employees for example. More than 2/3 are north of $100k. Family income of $200k a year is solid upper middle class level. You don't start to even think about the term "rich", until you make near to $500k a year per household.
ACA among other things expands the Medicaid program you are so fond of. Except in states where Republican governors play politics with people's health. Imagine you were earning just enough not to qualify for Medicaid.
Your comment, dear sir, is strangely familiar. I've heard it somewhere before. Ah, I remember, the Spanish Inquisition. No, no, I think it was even earlier, yeah, the Constance Council: "John Huss remained ardent in his faith in God and in his faith in God’s Word. At his trial, he was given the opportunity to recant. He would not do so. A large procession of people led him away to the place where he would be burned at the stake."
5-HTP
I've got a better way, lets release some greenhouse gases, trap the heat until the oceans boil, reuse old steam engines. WIN!
They should learn from US that this doesn't work. Why don't they simply label them as whacko and conspiracy theorists and let them run their mouth off. It's not like they can do anything. By blocking them, they just give credibility to what they write. The freedom of speech in US is such a great tool of mass control. See, if things were bad, we wouldn't let you speak, like the Russian or Chinese do, so clearly, we are the good guys, no story here, move on. So much better approach. Same with freedom of movement. Yeah, you can go anywhere you like, but please make sure you get vaccinated for this two page long list of deadly diseases and check with the embassy for the terrorist activity in your destination. Oh, you changed your mind and will go to Hawaii? Good. Why deny issuing passports when 96% of people won't even ask for them with just a little bit of scare tactics and squeezing the extra money out of population. Then just cut back vacation days to 0 and no problem.
Russia is so backward. Freedom propagandized is the key to real enslavement.
Yes, there is. Free public health, mandatory vaccination. Oh no! Communist alert!
Their original name bdlinux was too obvious, so the NSA renamed it selinux for "side entrance".
... the productivity in Turkey went up by 237%
That's why I furiously masturbate in front of my webcam as much as possible. Now the poor sods have to watch. I exact my revenge any way I can get it.
Why not "gamify" the satelite feed and turn it into an action scene in your favorite FPS game? They can release it, on scoreboards pick the top 5% gamers and connect their consoles to the real world scenarios. Don't even need soldiers to do the work, no PTSD, nobody even knows. Next time your game is free to play, financed by DARPA grant, you know what you are doing :)
Last two years I've worked 100 hour weeks. 16 hours a day, 2 hours for commute / shower, 4-5 hours of sleep. 6 days a week, sometimes Sundays. I've counted 9000 hours in two years. Of course, now I am slowing down. But let me tell you one thing: 60 hour week is just a breeze. That would almost feel like vacation.
When people write shit like you, it is mostly just men. If you count all the things my mom had to do to take care of our family, she's worked this hard for at least 20 years of her life. It can be done and it is routinely done. Actually when I think of it, 90% of people before 1800 had worked like that. Farm life can be a bitch. So right keep whining. Don't understand how someone could call you insightful.