You forgot one. Every single american is guilty of some crime that carries at least 5 year minimum sentence. If they start to stir shit, the government will start looking into their lives (through a secret warrants most likely) find it and lock them up. In a state where everyone is guilty of breaking some law, the prosecutor is the judge, the courts are just a farce at that point. The real problem are the overbroad laws.
I was listening to the NY police commissioner say on record while arguing for marihuana possession laws that often they cannot prove a case, so they opt for locking the guy on marihuana possession with mandatory sentence (often higher than that of the crime they wanted to lock him up for) and they are happy that a guy got locked in, because they "know" he is guilty. And he did not even see anything wrong with saying that. I cringed.
The level of government propaganda in US is at least 10 times higher than it was in communist Czechoslovakia where I grew up, with the slight difference that there people knew that the government is lying to them, in US they eat it up. It turns my stomach when I listen to it. The president can go to war with any country simply by calling them 'evil', because naturally "Americans are good and they have to fight evil." Ingenious. The propaganda around drug prohibition is even worse. Not to mention the overly broad laws being spoon fed based on false pretense.
The US government is using the same tactics the secret police used in totalitarian communist countries. There secret police secretly listened on their citizens, found out some crime or embarrassing fact about them, then used it as a leverage to turn them to spy on their neighbors or friends in turn. Locking up people who refused to cooperate on some bogus charges. Does it remind you of something? Hell, yeah, go re-read the article above... and then tell me about US not being a totalitarian police state.
The only difference I see if that instead of shooting you at the fence that "protects" your borders "from outsiders - haha", they molest you and your children so you'd get discouraged from traveling rather than outright prevented. But they figured out that it does not matter anyway, because 95% of Americans will never own a passport or leave the country.
You know that HP is trying to legislate some life into a dying chip architecture. I thought this site was all about not using courts to prop up dying business models and schemes... Also, once you wake up, you will see that the advertiser Google, is much more evil than a pure technology vendor Oracle. Just need to take off that blindfold.
You borrow money from a made up corporation and you buy their stock, by the time their stock goes down by the amount you borrowed, your loan will be deleted from the books, ensuring the corp. operates at a loss and so their stock goes down. You use the stock loss to offset your other stock gains. Now you've got free money, tax free.
I live in a country where corporations have market in operational loss to distribute profit/loss among themselves to avoid paying taxes. There is no accounting trick in the book or not in the book that would surprise me.
- Be sure that my textbook, while murdering some tree somewhere and not being 100% green and hippy, did not cause several factory workers to jump to their deaths, add to the toll of heavy metal pollution in east asian watercourses, or pad the coffers of Apple in preference to the Authors who sweated over the book. Odds are Apple will take a bigger cut than conventional publishers, because brand power means they can.
American college students kill themselves at 4 times the rate of Foxconn employees, who have suicide rate still well below the national average. Chinese students kill themselves at much lower rate than American students. I could be an ass and infer without any logic or basis in fact that the overpriced textbooks are at fault for this extremly high suicide rate in american college kids and spread that idiocy around just like you.
That is why you talk to the candidate about his past accomplishments, you get references, you can even talk about solving a hypotetical or real problem to see him in action. But brain teasers are just that. They are aimed at that one "Gotcha" moment you either get or you dont. Don't take me wrong, I loved those since I was a kid they are fun and if I get a new one, I usually cannot stop until I figure it out. But if I were asked a brain teaser at an interview, I'd get deeply offended. Mainly because interviews like that disregard most of who I am, what I have accomplished and how I could fit in to solve problems at the new position.
I would flat out refuse to answer any such question, even if I knew the answer beforehand and if the interviewer insisted, I'd walk out of there.
I don't want to push some fucking buttons. I don't want to learn what pushing those buttons means, when should I push them, how should I get the device to a state when I can push the right button and whatnot. And I certainly don't want to teach my mother any of that. I just want to live my damn life and have someone remember that I should buy milk. I don't even want to tell my phone to remember it for me. I want it to hear my wife tell me and do that automatically, then remind me at the right place and time. That's uselfull.
Well, if the tool is gonna be nagging me for first few days while it gets to know me, I don't mind. If I make a new friend, we usually spend quite a lot of time talking before we get to know each other. If I hire a new assistant, I'm gonna have to tell him and teach him everything about me anyway.
Also you completely omit from your equation the time needed to find the device, turn it on, look at the display, see what mode it is on, decide on how to get it into the right mode or app to do what you want, then navigate to the right context within the app so you can press the damn button. It takes me much less time to ask about something and I spend much less brain power, because the question is already on my mind, since that's why I want to know the answer.
If you spend some time understanding people, you might start making the technology you make actually useful.
What is so ridiculous about it? The phone can have a degree of certainty it did understand what you mean. If the certainty % is low, it will ask a question. It is what people do. It is completely natural. Actually, it is ridiculous to expect perfect recognition when we ourselves are not capable of it.
And that's why "good enough" voice recognition was held back for so long. Because the fucking engineers expect to get it right without asking question, because asking question is something they don't like to do. They went into computers to avoid talking back to people in the first place.
Make it ask about context, clarification, anything it needs to get what you mean -"Call Jane? Which Jane?" -"And how am I supposed to know who's your mom?" -"I don't know your father's mobile phone, do you want to call him at work?"
Actually, I would take it a step further. Don't just ask me questions when you don't understand. Ask me questions just to get to know me better. -"Hey, how was your meeting? Any TODOs on your plate this time?" -"You've got a weekly meeting tomorrow, but two of your tasks are still not marked as done. What's up mate?" -"I noticed you were to a new restaurant last night. Was it any good?" -"You went to gym last 3 mondays, do you plan to get every monday from now on? Ok, I'll mark your calendar then."
Before Apple there were smartphones and they were pain in the ass to use. I would wish for you to use one for a year now, after you had the chance to use smartphones with multi-touch displays and then tell me Apple did nothing. If a technology is virtually unusable before a look and feel change and after it is useful and spreads beyond CEO types to virtually everyone using a cell phone, then they did something right and they deserve this invention to be protected just as much as any other technology. It means nothing that to you it seems obvious and ridiculous to patent.
It is like the story about Columbus and an egg. They thought of it first and then it was suddenly obvious.
I'm totally with you, but I don't think you take it far enough. I demand that shoplifters, hackers and wife beaters be pursued by FBI, but also CIA, NSA, DEA and FDA as well. You can never be too careful about them national security threatening shoplifting terrorists!
You clearly don't get the point of gnosis. If something is undetectable, then it is unknowable and so its existence or non-existence does not matter. Agnostics are those who understand this simple fact. There is no need of any proof. It is the same argument that killed nihilism in all of its forms as valid world view. If there is no knowable distinction between something existing or not, being true or false, then it does not matter.
No, that is not what I meant and thank you for not puting words in my mouth. This is what both you and Google are mistaken about. That Java is just the VM. But it's also the libraries and APIs and other parts and there is where Google is in violation of IP. But even in implementing Davlik, although it is not a Java VM, they are in violation of a bunch of patents.
But again, as I said, if they did their own language with a Davlik VM and maybe even very similar syntax to Java and their own APIs and Libraries, there wouldn't likely be a lawsuit. But they made everyone thing they can write Java apps and run them as Andriod apps and then only implemeneted the API / Libraries partially, thus fragmenting the language and then run out with the substandart implementation and through Android market share pushed out real Java out of the market and took over Java developers and as Oracle claims: "Sucked the air out of the market."
All that was illegal, it was exactly embrace, extend and extinguish tactics. Deplorable.
From developer.android.com the first sentence of Application Fundamentals: "Android applications are written in the Java programming language." So much for Google never claiming...
Second you only get a license for Java if you do a full implementation. Otherwise you don't get one. And if you still go ahead you are in violation of Sun' IP.
C# is completely different case. If Google came with their own language instead of using Java, even if it was similar and used similar syntax or class names, I don't think there would be any legal action even though it would violate some of the patents probably.
But this blatant case of attack on Java while trying to piggyback on the infrastructure, tools and libraries developed for Java at the same time is shameful and we should call Google on it instead of trying to defend them. That is just my opinion though.
Proving something does not exists is trivial, mathematicians do it all the time. It is essentially same as any other type of proof. There is no such real number x, where x+1=x-1. I think it would be silly to claim we don't know such number yet, but maybe in future, who can really know?
Agnostic is not quite without knowledge of god, it is more of without the possibility that god is knowable. It does not exclude any sort of faith based opinion on that subject, although it certainly wouldn't be rational to hold such.
And again the magic word open source as if it would solve all the problems and bring world peace.
The fact remains that Davlik does not run Java programs properly, it is intentionally incompatible. The very reason why Java license only allows full implementations of the entire API, so this fragmentation would not happen. Open sourcing it does not change it one bit, since there is nothing that can be done about it.
And actually it is illegal. Same argument as we always use with GPL applies. You don't have a copyright unless granted by the Java license, if you break the license you don't have any rights to the copyrighted material.
Google did to Java on Phones exactly what we criticized Microsoft for through all those years of Slashdot existence. They took the API, they partially implemented them, then made their own incompatibilities, then took over the market with their incompatible implementation. Do No Evil? I don't think so.
This is the exact same type of case as Netscape vs IE. And they will probably get away with it. Sun wanted a very modest license for Java and Google certainly could afford to pay, but they are comprised of so many hackers that think everything should be open source and free and if they can re-implement it, then there is no harm done. But clearly that is not the case as we plainly saw when Microsoft destroyed Netscape and took over the market. The same is happening now with Google, Palm is gone, now WebOS is gone too, Symbian is as good as dead, Blackberry OS will soon follow and Windows on Mobile is laughable and if it wouldn't be for Apple, then Android would already be the only game in town. There used to be a whole set of Java based phones and Java apps on a variety of mobile OSes and they are all gone thanks to this shameful E.E.E. tactics.
I don't understand how can we still cheer Google even though they are clearly in the wrong here.
That is still agnostic. Agnostic is free to choose whichever side he'll "believe" or not choose any side at all. Atheists believe that there is no god, despite the lack of data to prove either existence or non-existence. In a way, atheism is faith based opinion. Agnostics point out there are no data and thus they are free to choose whatever they like. Still they know either choice is equally valid on such irational (no rational proof exists) point.
I run skype v5 on Mac. And after few months I could not take it anymore and downgraded to v2.8. If they force me onto v5 in any way, I will stop using skype rather than suffer through that piece of crapware.
You are so incredibly happy about the LibreOffice fork and maybe it is gonna be all for good. But the TDF guys during their talks with Sun engineers after Oracle bought Sun were simply dishonest, less than courteous and just plain pushed for their agenda without any serious attempt to work with Oracle. They say their attempts at working with Oracle failed, but if you (like me) pour over the meeting minutes, it just wasn't so. This fork has been done solely for ego stroking of few socialy awkward geeks.
Now OpenOffice represents a huge investment by Sun and by the virtue of purchasing Sun, thus by Oracle into Open Source software. The amount of money spent on engineers paid to work on the code base is quite large and if software development companies will be treated like Oracle was in this case, it is unlikely they will ever again invest into Open Source on this scale. Further the missed opportunity to have Oracle support the project and invest into its future will be sorely missed by the community. Check for example the recent article by MySQL founders how the code base under Oracle is now in its best shape ever. Large companies invest in the parts of the project that are not so popular in an open community, like test frameworks, builds, documentation and other essential parts of a mature project.
But, you simply don't feed the rabbit dog that bites your hand. We might come to rue this disaster for years to come.
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You forgot one. Every single american is guilty of some crime that carries at least 5 year minimum sentence. If they start to stir shit, the government will start looking into their lives (through a secret warrants most likely) find it and lock them up. In a state where everyone is guilty of breaking some law, the prosecutor is the judge, the courts are just a farce at that point. The real problem are the overbroad laws.
I was listening to the NY police commissioner say on record while arguing for marihuana possession laws that often they cannot prove a case, so they opt for locking the guy on marihuana possession with mandatory sentence (often higher than that of the crime they wanted to lock him up for) and they are happy that a guy got locked in, because they "know" he is guilty. And he did not even see anything wrong with saying that. I cringed.
The level of government propaganda in US is at least 10 times higher than it was in communist Czechoslovakia where I grew up, with the slight difference that there people knew that the government is lying to them, in US they eat it up. It turns my stomach when I listen to it. The president can go to war with any country simply by calling them 'evil', because naturally "Americans are good and they have to fight evil." Ingenious. The propaganda around drug prohibition is even worse. Not to mention the overly broad laws being spoon fed based on false pretense.
The US government is using the same tactics the secret police used in totalitarian communist countries. There secret police secretly listened on their citizens, found out some crime or embarrassing fact about them, then used it as a leverage to turn them to spy on their neighbors or friends in turn. Locking up people who refused to cooperate on some bogus charges. Does it remind you of something? Hell, yeah, go re-read the article above... and then tell me about US not being a totalitarian police state.
The only difference I see if that instead of shooting you at the fence that "protects" your borders "from outsiders - haha", they molest you and your children so you'd get discouraged from traveling rather than outright prevented. But they figured out that it does not matter anyway, because 95% of Americans will never own a passport or leave the country.
You know that HP is trying to legislate some life into a dying chip architecture. I thought this site was all about not using courts to prop up dying business models and schemes... Also, once you wake up, you will see that the advertiser Google, is much more evil than a pure technology vendor Oracle. Just need to take off that blindfold.
You borrow money from a made up corporation and you buy their stock, by the time their stock goes down by the amount you borrowed, your loan will be deleted from the books, ensuring the corp. operates at a loss and so their stock goes down. You use the stock loss to offset your other stock gains. Now you've got free money, tax free.
I live in a country where corporations have market in operational loss to distribute profit/loss among themselves to avoid paying taxes. There is no accounting trick in the book or not in the book that would surprise me.
- Be sure that my textbook, while murdering some tree somewhere and not being 100% green and hippy, did not cause several factory workers to jump to their deaths, add to the toll of heavy metal pollution in east asian watercourses, or pad the coffers of Apple in preference to the Authors who sweated over the book. Odds are Apple will take a bigger cut than conventional publishers, because brand power means they can.
American college students kill themselves at 4 times the rate of Foxconn employees, who have suicide rate still well below the national average. Chinese students kill themselves at much lower rate than American students. I could be an ass and infer without any logic or basis in fact that the overpriced textbooks are at fault for this extremly high suicide rate in american college kids and spread that idiocy around just like you.
Lua has been used in multiplayer online games as the choice language for writting addons and extensions for quite some time now.
That is why you talk to the candidate about his past accomplishments, you get references, you can even talk about solving a hypotetical or real problem to see him in action. But brain teasers are just that. They are aimed at that one "Gotcha" moment you either get or you dont. Don't take me wrong, I loved those since I was a kid they are fun and if I get a new one, I usually cannot stop until I figure it out. But if I were asked a brain teaser at an interview, I'd get deeply offended. Mainly because interviews like that disregard most of who I am, what I have accomplished and how I could fit in to solve problems at the new position.
I would flat out refuse to answer any such question, even if I knew the answer beforehand and if the interviewer insisted, I'd walk out of there.
I don't want to push some fucking buttons. I don't want to learn what pushing those buttons means, when should I push them, how should I get the device to a state when I can push the right button and whatnot. And I certainly don't want to teach my mother any of that. I just want to live my damn life and have someone remember that I should buy milk. I don't even want to tell my phone to remember it for me. I want it to hear my wife tell me and do that automatically, then remind me at the right place and time. That's uselfull.
Well, if the tool is gonna be nagging me for first few days while it gets to know me, I don't mind. If I make a new friend, we usually spend quite a lot of time talking before we get to know each other. If I hire a new assistant, I'm gonna have to tell him and teach him everything about me anyway.
Also you completely omit from your equation the time needed to find the device, turn it on, look at the display, see what mode it is on, decide on how to get it into the right mode or app to do what you want, then navigate to the right context within the app so you can press the damn button. It takes me much less time to ask about something and I spend much less brain power, because the question is already on my mind, since that's why I want to know the answer.
If you spend some time understanding people, you might start making the technology you make actually useful.
What is so ridiculous about it? The phone can have a degree of certainty it did understand what you mean. If the certainty % is low, it will ask a question. It is what people do. It is completely natural. Actually, it is ridiculous to expect perfect recognition when we ourselves are not capable of it.
And that's why "good enough" voice recognition was held back for so long. Because the fucking engineers expect to get it right without asking question, because asking question is something they don't like to do. They went into computers to avoid talking back to people in the first place.
Make it ask about context, clarification, anything it needs to get what you mean
-"Call Jane? Which Jane?"
-"And how am I supposed to know who's your mom?"
-"I don't know your father's mobile phone, do you want to call him at work?"
Actually, I would take it a step further. Don't just ask me questions when you don't understand. Ask me questions just to get to know me better.
-"Hey, how was your meeting? Any TODOs on your plate this time?"
-"You've got a weekly meeting tomorrow, but two of your tasks are still not marked as done. What's up mate?"
-"I noticed you were to a new restaurant last night. Was it any good?"
-"You went to gym last 3 mondays, do you plan to get every monday from now on? Ok, I'll mark your calendar then."
Gopher.
'nugh said!
Had to be a russian guy, they got no word for 'be' really. They would say something like: You smart. Your password generic2011. :)
Puritan laws brought to you by the former Hippies. What a farce!
Before Apple there were smartphones and they were pain in the ass to use. I would wish for you to use one for a year now, after you had the chance to use smartphones with multi-touch displays and then tell me Apple did nothing. If a technology is virtually unusable before a look and feel change and after it is useful and spreads beyond CEO types to virtually everyone using a cell phone, then they did something right and they deserve this invention to be protected just as much as any other technology. It means nothing that to you it seems obvious and ridiculous to patent.
It is like the story about Columbus and an egg. They thought of it first and then it was suddenly obvious.
I'm totally with you, but I don't think you take it far enough. I demand that shoplifters, hackers and wife beaters be pursued by FBI, but also CIA, NSA, DEA and FDA as well. You can never be too careful about them national security threatening shoplifting terrorists!
The more you talk the more it is obvious you don't even understand Java. So here it is in nice big slides so even you can comprehend: http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/ec-public/materials/2011-02-15/Compatibility.pdf
You clearly don't get the point of gnosis. If something is undetectable, then it is unknowable and so its existence or non-existence does not matter. Agnostics are those who understand this simple fact. There is no need of any proof. It is the same argument that killed nihilism in all of its forms as valid world view. If there is no knowable distinction between something existing or not, being true or false, then it does not matter.
No, that is not what I meant and thank you for not puting words in my mouth. This is what both you and Google are mistaken about. That Java is just the VM. But it's also the libraries and APIs and other parts and there is where Google is in violation of IP. But even in implementing Davlik, although it is not a Java VM, they are in violation of a bunch of patents.
But again, as I said, if they did their own language with a Davlik VM and maybe even very similar syntax to Java and their own APIs and Libraries, there wouldn't likely be a lawsuit. But they made everyone thing they can write Java apps and run them as Andriod apps and then only implemeneted the API / Libraries partially, thus fragmenting the language and then run out with the substandart implementation and through Android market share pushed out real Java out of the market and took over Java developers and as Oracle claims: "Sucked the air out of the market."
All that was illegal, it was exactly embrace, extend and extinguish tactics. Deplorable.
Nice to see that so many moderators still think that down vote is a disagree button. :)
From developer.android.com the first sentence of Application Fundamentals: "Android applications are written in the Java programming language." So much for Google never claiming ...
Second you only get a license for Java if you do a full implementation. Otherwise you don't get one. And if you still go ahead you are in violation of Sun' IP.
C# is completely different case. If Google came with their own language instead of using Java, even if it was similar and used similar syntax or class names, I don't think there would be any legal action even though it would violate some of the patents probably.
But this blatant case of attack on Java while trying to piggyback on the infrastructure, tools and libraries developed for Java at the same time is shameful and we should call Google on it instead of trying to defend them. That is just my opinion though.
Proving something does not exists is trivial, mathematicians do it all the time. It is essentially same as any other type of proof. There is no such real number x, where x+1=x-1. I think it would be silly to claim we don't know such number yet, but maybe in future, who can really know?
Agnostic is not quite without knowledge of god, it is more of without the possibility that god is knowable. It does not exclude any sort of faith based opinion on that subject, although it certainly wouldn't be rational to hold such.
And again the magic word open source as if it would solve all the problems and bring world peace.
The fact remains that Davlik does not run Java programs properly, it is intentionally incompatible. The very reason why Java license only allows full implementations of the entire API, so this fragmentation would not happen. Open sourcing it does not change it one bit, since there is nothing that can be done about it.
And actually it is illegal. Same argument as we always use with GPL applies. You don't have a copyright unless granted by the Java license, if you break the license you don't have any rights to the copyrighted material.
That is the essence of the case.
Google did to Java on Phones exactly what we criticized Microsoft for through all those years of Slashdot existence. They took the API, they partially implemented them, then made their own incompatibilities, then took over the market with their incompatible implementation. Do No Evil? I don't think so.
This is the exact same type of case as Netscape vs IE. And they will probably get away with it. Sun wanted a very modest license for Java and Google certainly could afford to pay, but they are comprised of so many hackers that think everything should be open source and free and if they can re-implement it, then there is no harm done. But clearly that is not the case as we plainly saw when Microsoft destroyed Netscape and took over the market. The same is happening now with Google, Palm is gone, now WebOS is gone too, Symbian is as good as dead, Blackberry OS will soon follow and Windows on Mobile is laughable and if it wouldn't be for Apple, then Android would already be the only game in town. There used to be a whole set of Java based phones and Java apps on a variety of mobile OSes and they are all gone thanks to this shameful E.E.E. tactics.
I don't understand how can we still cheer Google even though they are clearly in the wrong here.
That is still agnostic. Agnostic is free to choose whichever side he'll "believe" or not choose any side at all. Atheists believe that there is no god, despite the lack of data to prove either existence or non-existence. In a way, atheism is faith based opinion. Agnostics point out there are no data and thus they are free to choose whatever they like. Still they know either choice is equally valid on such irational (no rational proof exists) point.
I run skype v5 on Mac. And after few months I could not take it anymore and downgraded to v2.8. If they force me onto v5 in any way, I will stop using skype rather than suffer through that piece of crapware.
Damned spellchecker turned my rabid dog into a rabbit-dog mutant! :)
You are so incredibly happy about the LibreOffice fork and maybe it is gonna be all for good. But the TDF guys during their talks with Sun engineers after Oracle bought Sun were simply dishonest, less than courteous and just plain pushed for their agenda without any serious attempt to work with Oracle. They say their attempts at working with Oracle failed, but if you (like me) pour over the meeting minutes, it just wasn't so. This fork has been done solely for ego stroking of few socialy awkward geeks.
Now OpenOffice represents a huge investment by Sun and by the virtue of purchasing Sun, thus by Oracle into Open Source software. The amount of money spent on engineers paid to work on the code base is quite large and if software development companies will be treated like Oracle was in this case, it is unlikely they will ever again invest into Open Source on this scale. Further the missed opportunity to have Oracle support the project and invest into its future will be sorely missed by the community. Check for example the recent article by MySQL founders how the code base under Oracle is now in its best shape ever. Large companies invest in the parts of the project that are not so popular in an open community, like test frameworks, builds, documentation and other essential parts of a mature project.
But, you simply don't feed the rabbit dog that bites your hand. We might come to rue this disaster for years to come.