Your argument fails on one point, either out of misunderstanding or downright maliciousness. But the rest is okay.
The FSF does not care who looks at code. To say they do is only a political lie. They only care who cuts and pastes their code somewhere else which is what is meant by CopyRight the right to copy. Not the right to look at it. You are welcome to look, learn and write your own BSD liscenced equivelant as long as you don't copy the code.
But even then they don't care who uses their gzip compression algorithm or other advancements and innovations.
Mind you, I think BSD is a more free liscence the GPL is an enforced openness and that gives those who use it freedom. But as someone said before it isn't freedom, its guild socialism. And that is a good thing.
I've tried to pitch CVS systems in the past, to no avail. They listened patiently and earnestly as I mentioned the same things. Then they respond "We already have that system in place, we back up daily changes on the hour and then write to DAT at night."
Without the ability to take apart and regenerate a Word or Excel document from revisioned parts, thats really all you are doing is just saving every copy you ever made of a document.
Maybe its best just writing each version with a time stamp, and symlink to the current copy. Perhaps this could be done in Samba, and the time stamped files are all.hidden files.
BTW, if you wait a couple of months SubVersion will be out and its integration with webDav would be useful.
Used both also, but SourceSafe's only key is MS integration. Otherwise its not as featured or easy to use as CVS has been for me (speaking as a user not an admin.)
I miss the old days of not having to lock things when I check them out. Maybe our admin has it set up wrong.
is to write a program that is user-interface agnostic and then write user interfaces for it. I've been working on your proposal for almost three years now, and to a limited degree you can do it. But then you get into windowing issues, state issues, what do you do if they want graphics issues and wind up doing it server/client anyway.
Besides, on the gnucash mailing lists I see a effort towards this lately. A multiuser gnucash. But then tunneling from the other end of the mountain is EJB architecture. I'm not sure where they will (or even if they will) ever meet but they are working on the same problem. (As an aside, for now at work I am forced to using Microsoft Exchange, queryable folders, web components, digital dashboards, etc in this fashion but I'd rather use Java ejb architecture. *Much* more flexible and intuitive and solid. We're strected out like plasticman-on-twister running to make it through all the hoops in the way we have to make it through them.)
As I understand, EROS is adding a rdbms but by its nature OODBMS would be a more logical use of its properties.
I actualy can't wait for an EROS OODBMS Network Data Storage system. I think they were meant for each other but it will take 10 years for people to comprehend it. I wonder if in 10 years when this idea is finnaly reaching Linux like momentum, if someone will think back and say "We could have had this 10 years ago".
Maybe its becuase I'm in a good mood that I feel this, but consider the lillies of the field, the ravens and that hording more fruit than you can use is a good way to get rotten fruit.
Purely socialistic is to extreme, and purely capitalistic is too extreme. Honestly the best line I've seen drawn in this matter was drawn about 2000 years ago for those that actualy understand it.
Note, some moderator moded the parent down for being off topic.
So what does having 1 job and three side buisnesses that take pretty much most of my time off topic? I don't know either. Thats why I spend most of my moderating points these days fixing bad moderation. This is blatantly off topic.
1) With rare exceptions, no funny post is better than an informative post (rare exceptions). Only people who get their political commentary from Bvs&Bthd (as opposed to the Simpsons or PPG which has intelligent commentary) thing funny is better. Funny enough, the same people that understand B&B are the same ones that understand Democrats. Go figure.
2) Moderators are to be at -1 to watch for abuses. Thats not to moderate someone to -2, thats to keep moderators from pushing down good posts that might conflict with prejudices or their inability to comprehend. I like saving those people.
One comapny I worked for (named like a sequal to a missle system) tried this on me and it almost backfired.
Fed by rumors from one slacker worker who was scared for his own job, they sent me 'the letter'.
"We have been noticing you being unproductive in the following ways...
1) Reading online trade journals
2) Playing Strike Force" etc...
Well it was common knowledge that I had the only linux machine in the office, so I responded..."
"There is no such game on linux, and I am aware of my rights. I am saving this email for future consideration for manufacturing reasons for termination should such an event happen."
Essentialy any attempt to fire me would surface up this letter which could be used as evidence that they were just getting rid of me, and my record had nothing to do with it. I could have used that as blackmail and stayed there, but I left anyways. A company that poorly managed was not the place I wanted to be.
I could be wrong, but I remember XF86 being a year or a PCI bridge thing or both (yes I'm not very clued in this, but read on). Once upon a time there was XF98 for another architechure of some sort, it had to do with what kind of graphics cards it worked with.
His comments would have been more tempered if he said "environment they are used to" instead of "more stable, [yada]".
But that wouldn't be saying anything different.
/me ducks
Seriously though, having moved from a Linux environment to a Windows recently, I can attest that Windows is more stable these days than it was. But check this out, I just had to visit a company yesterday that I installed a samba server in over a year and a half ago.
I had never had to visit them since the time I installed it, until now that they are having hardware problems with the case its housed in. They aren't Linux gurus so I can attest that they haven't touched it.
I wonder if anyone can say they have a NT box in a production commercial environment that they haven't had to touch in 18 months, nay not even a reboot.
On my linux box at home, if my wife does something strange, like run tuxracer even though we don't have 3d acceloration, I can log in from work and fix it for her, while she is logged in and without stepping on what she is doing.
I know there is remote admin tools for NT and 2000, but honestly, they aren't as powerful and/or they interupt what the user is doing.
So, I hope this is more insiteful and evenhanded, but I don't need any more karma.
Clovers, and many legumes like plants (i.e. beans and peanuts) are nitrogen fixing. Some trees harbor nitrogen fixing bacteria also.
However, its my understanding that amazonian plants (tobacco, hemp, citrus) are very nitrogen draining. Or maybe your just talking about one of the hundreds of hemp plants that have nothing to do with Marijuana.
I wish I could find the site that mentions all the problems with the dead kennedy's lead singers talk cd's. This kind of stuff gets spread too easy becuase people want to believe it.
The only evidence I could find that hemp is nitrogen fixing is that it is not nitrogen fixing, it just produced enough organic matter to turn into compost to add back to the soil for a balance.
The right hand rule is not really a rule, it is a easy way to remember the direction of the positive cross product of two verticies. Its the same as putting your hands in front of your face to see which one forms an 'L' for 'Left' hand.
So tell me how these materials form a negative cross product of radiation across the E and M flow?
I agree. I'm as much against microsoft astroturf plants as anybody. However the guy from microsoft was free flowing with views and information that I thought was interesting. He is right in just about everything. And in the few places I feel he is wrong, I realize my reasoning is based on hunches.
MS is responding to Linux in an interesting way, they are actualy understanding it and incorporating what Linux is in spirit into Windows. We don't see the flush of FUD that was predicted except from plants that boo and hiss on KDE and GNOME.
What we do see are people trying to be informative and interesting like the slashdot purists try to be.
Heres a hint to being interesting and informative (although not really karma gathering) on slashdot. Rather than Poo-Pooing on an idea, understand it.
Then when you understand it say what you understand, whether it be opposed or in support of the origional idea. Then while ignoring the hordes of knee-jerks responding aimlessly to your posts, you'll see the fruits of your labors in the intelligent posts of others. They will actualy add more understanding to your ideas!
Remember understand first, post later. (I'll make it my new sig)
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they should work on opensourcing all those plugins
Doing this requires strategy a little smarter than the kicking, screaming and sulking that most Open Source advocates mandate. For example:
"We don't want that software its not open source..."
compared that my five year old nephew...
"I don't want a burger, I want McDonalds!"
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Your argument fails on one point, either out of misunderstanding or downright maliciousness. But the rest is okay.
The FSF does not care who looks at code. To say they do is only a political lie. They only care who cuts and pastes their code somewhere else which is what is meant by CopyRight the right to copy. Not the right to look at it. You are welcome to look, learn and write your own BSD liscenced equivelant as long as you don't copy the code.
But even then they don't care who uses their gzip compression algorithm or other advancements and innovations.
Mind you, I think BSD is a more free liscence the GPL is an enforced openness and that gives those who use it freedom. But as someone said before it isn't freedom, its guild socialism. And that is a good thing.
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How do you do this? Were just manipulating HTML and ASP pages, no binary only formats to worry about.
How minor is usualy minor?
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I've tried to pitch CVS systems in the past, to no avail. They listened patiently and earnestly as I mentioned the same things. Then they respond "We already have that system in place, we back up daily changes on the hour and then write to DAT at night."
.hidden files.
Without the ability to take apart and regenerate a Word or Excel document from revisioned parts, thats really all you are doing is just saving every copy you ever made of a document.
Maybe its best just writing each version with a time stamp, and symlink to the current copy. Perhaps this could be done in Samba, and the time stamped files are all
BTW, if you wait a couple of months SubVersion will be out and its integration with webDav would be useful.
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Used both also, but SourceSafe's only key is MS integration. Otherwise its not as featured or easy to use as CVS has been for me (speaking as a user not an admin.)
I miss the old days of not having to lock things when I check them out. Maybe our admin has it set up wrong.
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is to write a program that is user-interface agnostic and then write user interfaces for it. I've been working on your proposal for almost three years now, and to a limited degree you can do it. But then you get into windowing issues, state issues, what do you do if they want graphics issues and wind up doing it server/client anyway.
Besides, on the gnucash mailing lists I see a effort towards this lately. A multiuser gnucash. But then tunneling from the other end of the mountain is EJB architecture. I'm not sure where they will (or even if they will) ever meet but they are working on the same problem. (As an aside, for now at work I am forced to using Microsoft Exchange, queryable folders, web components, digital dashboards, etc in this fashion but I'd rather use Java ejb architecture. *Much* more flexible and intuitive and solid. We're strected out like plasticman-on-twister running to make it through all the hoops in the way we have to make it through them.)
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As I understand, EROS is adding a rdbms but by its nature OODBMS would be a more logical use of its properties.
I actualy can't wait for an EROS OODBMS Network Data Storage system. I think they were meant for each other but it will take 10 years for people to comprehend it. I wonder if in 10 years when this idea is finnaly reaching Linux like momentum, if someone will think back and say "We could have had this 10 years ago".
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Maybe its becuase I'm in a good mood that I feel this, but consider the lillies of the field, the ravens and that hording more fruit than you can use is a good way to get rotten fruit.
Purely socialistic is to extreme, and purely capitalistic is too extreme. Honestly the best line I've seen drawn in this matter was drawn about 2000 years ago for those that actualy understand it.
~^~~^~^^~~^
Note, some moderator moded the parent down for being off topic.
So what does having 1 job and three side buisnesses that take pretty much most of my time off topic? I don't know either. Thats why I spend most of my moderating points these days fixing bad moderation. This is blatantly off topic.
1) With rare exceptions, no funny post is better than an informative post (rare exceptions). Only people who get their political commentary from Bvs&Bthd (as opposed to the Simpsons or PPG which has intelligent commentary) thing funny is better. Funny enough, the same people that understand B&B are the same ones that understand Democrats. Go figure.
2) Moderators are to be at -1 to watch for abuses. Thats not to moderate someone to -2, thats to keep moderators from pushing down good posts that might conflict with prejudices or their inability to comprehend. I like saving those people.
thats my rant, take it for what its worth.
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This fits in Parkinson's law, although maybe under a special corrilary. Work expands to fill the time alloted to it.
Hmm, 2 points for Parkinson reference, 10 points for an Erma Bombeck reference anyone?
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This is funny. Some of the best sarcasm on Slashdot is too quick to notice.
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me too, remove the SPshielD from my email address. We should talk.
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Ha,
One comapny I worked for (named like a sequal to a missle system) tried this on me and it almost backfired.
Fed by rumors from one slacker worker who was scared for his own job, they sent me 'the letter'.
"We have been noticing you being unproductive in the following ways...
1) Reading online trade journals
2) Playing Strike Force" etc...
Well it was common knowledge that I had the only linux machine in the office, so I responded..."
"There is no such game on linux, and I am aware of my rights. I am saving this email for future consideration for manufacturing reasons for termination should such an event happen."
Essentialy any attempt to fire me would surface up this letter which could be used as evidence that they were just getting rid of me, and my record had nothing to do with it. I could have used that as blackmail and stayed there, but I left anyways. A company that poorly managed was not the place I wanted to be.
~^~~^~^^~~^
I could be wrong, but I remember XF86 being a year or a PCI bridge thing or both (yes I'm not very clued in this, but read on). Once upon a time there was XF98 for another architechure of some sort, it had to do with what kind of graphics cards it worked with.
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onlawn:"Here, you can have mine..."
phutureboy:"But that [karma] took 81 years to earn!"
onlawn:"That's okay, I don't need it much any more"
(disclaimer, I have it wrong so anyone who can give a better trascript feel free to do so...)
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add, Enhydra also.
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one man's flame is another man's fire...
His comments would have been more tempered if he said "environment they are used to" instead of "more stable, [yada]".
But that wouldn't be saying anything different.
/me ducks
Seriously though, having moved from a Linux environment to a Windows recently, I can attest that Windows is more stable these days than it was. But check this out, I just had to visit a company yesterday that I installed a samba server in over a year and a half ago.
I had never had to visit them since the time I installed it, until now that they are having hardware problems with the case its housed in. They aren't Linux gurus so I can attest that they haven't touched it.
I wonder if anyone can say they have a NT box in a production commercial environment that they haven't had to touch in 18 months, nay not even a reboot.
On my linux box at home, if my wife does something strange, like run tuxracer even though we don't have 3d acceloration, I can log in from work and fix it for her, while she is logged in and without stepping on what she is doing.
I know there is remote admin tools for NT and 2000, but honestly, they aren't as powerful and/or they interupt what the user is doing.
So, I hope this is more insiteful and evenhanded, but I don't need any more karma.
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Sorry my father didn't pronounce the spelling. If he did it might have been 'W-i-e-n-e-r[whatever]'
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I remember my Father cringing everytime we passed a "Der Wienershnitzel" saying "Look son, its supposed to be 'Das Weinershnitzel'".
Although my boss and mechanic speak german fluently I don't so I can't say if that is true or not.
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is Mojo Dojo?
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Clovers, and many legumes like plants (i.e. beans and peanuts) are nitrogen fixing. Some trees harbor nitrogen fixing bacteria also.
However, its my understanding that amazonian plants (tobacco, hemp, citrus) are very nitrogen draining. Or maybe your just talking about one of the hundreds of hemp plants that have nothing to do with Marijuana.
I wish I could find the site that mentions all the problems with the dead kennedy's lead singers talk cd's. This kind of stuff gets spread too easy becuase people want to believe it.
The only evidence I could find that hemp is nitrogen fixing is that it is not nitrogen fixing, it just produced enough organic matter to turn into compost to add back to the soil for a balance.
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For my chaotic friend,
What was crap? you don't even say.
Whats wrong with the world today?
Incenced and idiotic punks
who posted before they thunk.
They can only vageuly point
at everything being out of joint
When they themselves have no proof
come off as arrogant and aloof
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The right hand rule is not really a rule, it is a easy way to remember the direction of the positive cross product of two verticies. Its the same as putting your hands in front of your face to see which one forms an 'L' for 'Left' hand.
So tell me how these materials form a negative cross product of radiation across the E and M flow?
And what does this have to do with refraction?
No links to anything. You should be...
..proud of yourself. Fooled the moderators again.
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I have read many very articulate oppositions to the MS man. I suggest reading them to see how to do it. (but I bet I'm preaching to the choir here).
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I agree. I'm as much against microsoft astroturf plants as anybody. However the guy from microsoft was free flowing with views and information that I thought was interesting. He is right in just about everything. And in the few places I feel he is wrong, I realize my reasoning is based on hunches.
MS is responding to Linux in an interesting way, they are actualy understanding it and incorporating what Linux is in spirit into Windows. We don't see the flush of FUD that was predicted except from plants that boo and hiss on KDE and GNOME.
What we do see are people trying to be informative and interesting like the slashdot purists try to be.
Heres a hint to being interesting and informative (although not really karma gathering) on slashdot. Rather than Poo-Pooing on an idea, understand it.
Then when you understand it say what you understand, whether it be opposed or in support of the origional idea. Then while ignoring the hordes of knee-jerks responding aimlessly to your posts, you'll see the fruits of your labors in the intelligent posts of others. They will actualy add more understanding to your ideas!
Remember understand first, post later. (I'll make it my new sig)
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