I think we have the same idea here, we're mostly discussing semantics.
As far as using the easy-but-restrictive interface in everyday use, I think that's a fair idea, and I do see your point that some users won't want to "graduate" to bigger-better things. That's OK with me. Just give me the choice to use whatever level that I want to.
I hate to sharpshoot, but.... A yes/no response takes up one bit, consisting of either a 1 or a 0.
Having said that, I think this is an opportunity for the modularity of Linux to shine through. If you want the easy GUI (the 2-bit one), you can have that, even make it the default install interface so you don't even have to set it up. If you want to work only from a console(the 64-bit interface), that too is acceptable. If you want something in the middle(the 32-bit interface), you have many choices.
Remember, it's all modular. I use KDM at home so that my 3-year old can click on the icon for him to log in and have his own little world (he likes to run 5xXroach, 5xXsnow, and wine at the same time), but I can use the virtual consoles or X if I want to, and I just pick which window manager to use at log-in. Even a no-brainer can figure out how to log in, and the more advanced users can pick which option to use.
"New feature ideas and bug reports will no longer go onto a "wish list"; they will go onto a "hot list." You will face pressure to add 50 new items to the next release, when it really ought to have 10. Wealthy organizations, accustomed to getting their way, will demand impossible schedules from you, and then complain if the quality is not perfect."
Everybody gets hung up on the thought of a big corporation requiring programmers to add whatever features to a program.
But, with the GPL, if a company needs a feature and the primary developer isn't able to add it (either through lack of time or ability), the company can add their own features. Or, they can pay somebody to add their features. Or, they can use the existing program as a framework for their own version that has the features they need. Point is, they have the flexability if they need it, and the primary developer isn't obliged to listen to anybody (although it's a good idea, sometimes it's not practical).
Let's face it--most of the people who would look up a presidential campaign online are probably interested in "Geek Issues", which are not exactly inline with the standard Bi-party system arrangement (mostly libertarian, some business interests in there, empowerment of the masses, things like that)
Why not have the online stuff have information about the GI? Where does a candidate stand on capital gains? cryptography? intellectual property?
I see this huge demographic developing, and nobody is capitalizing on it. It would be so easy, since the net is our medium, how we interract with our society. There are more of us than you think.
Maybe I'm old or something (26), but I remember when she was in "Beautiful Girls" as a 13-year old. I was well into adulthood when that was released. The whole idea of her as a sexual object is kinda disgusting to me.
So, you could write your own unencrypted DVD, right? How would that work with the reading software that's set up for encrypted data? It's an interesting spinoff.
I have a theory about DVD-CSS that I want to try out. I encourage debate on this, since I think it's an angle that nobody has looked at yet.
It's the idea that you can't record (not copy) your own DVD without the "official" software.
It doesn't make sense to me that you would control the use of a player for whatever system you have. It's the theory of standardization. The more you sell, the more you sell because you have become the defacto standard for that technology. That's why we use VHS instead of Beta, and why MS kicked booty on Apple. So, it's to your advantage to freely distribute your player ala IE or Acrobat Viewer or Shockwave Plugins.
The film industry is a weird thing. Hollywood was built by accountants. All movies do not make money. How? Everything is taken off of the top, what we call gross points. There is also what we call net points, where you get a percentage of what's left after expenses. Everything gets taken out of gross points, so a studio almost always fails to make a hefty profit. Of course, everyone makes money, but for tax purposes, every movie is a flop.
Now, here come the independent filmmakers. These guys make a movie for less that $50,000, so if a movie makes it big, it makes it BIG! What's even better, these guys make better movies, more suited to thinking intellectuals than the usual mass-marketed pulp.
So, the big studios see these "yahoos" coming in and taking out some slices of the pie, which are needed for the industry system to function, and need a way to up the "profit" margin.
Enter DVD and CSS. The industry gets to pick how you read and write your own DVD's. Make the cost of recording software prohibitively expensive. Don't release recording software for Irix.
The reason that these independents are making movies so cheaply is that they use computer graphics to fix up the footage during editing. That means that they can spend less time shooting on location, which is prohibitively expensive. Once you buy a good CG system, you are limited only by time.
The potential from DVD for independent filmmakers is enormous. I offer the following scenarios:
A) You're an independent filmmaker trying to get a deal to sell your film to a chain of theaters. It's very expensive to get your film transfered to celluloid (film that goes in a projector). That's what the deal guys use to preview movies. So, you burn a DVD from your CG machine (the whole movie's on your hd, remember?) and get a laptop with a DVD player. You have a very portable instant-presentation device. Oh, here, wait a minute, I have it on my laptop, I can show you right now. If you have a couple of these setups, you can take them to show at Sundance or wherever.
B) Several independents get together and form a distributed distribution organization. They use a DVD repository, and manufacturing facilities all over the world. A filmmaker makes his film, loads it on the server, and presses all over the world start distributing this DVD. Sure, it's 8Gigs, but it only gets sent out a couple of times. Big studios are all about distribution--they are the kings of it. What the independent needs is a way to get his product out there in the market. It's a major problem for independents.
C) An independent filmmaker wants to make a film with a message and is not concerned about making any profit. He puts the whole damn thing on the net and lets anybody download it free. My wife, who has a degree in theater, says that it would just make the studios go ballistic that somebody would have a good movie (better that their waste of film) and be giving it away for free.
I just don't know why anybody has thought of this. Maybe we need to start telling the independents about these capabilities that they are missing out on.
For more information about independent films, check out ifc's web page www.ifctv.com or IF magazine www.ifmagazine.com
However, you need access to open up the port for ssh on the firewall itself, so if it's not your network or you don't get along with the administrator, you can't do it.
Given the average security of most networks, it's already turned on.
The yeti is a rare species of Himalayan bear that lives above the treeline, according to the great alpinist Reinhold Messner.
http://www.parascope.com/en/articles/yetiBear.ht m http://www.tibet.ca/wtnarchive/1998/10/6_6.html
Besides, how can "The Wild Man of the Forest" be a monkey? Hello, People, wake up!!!
One other false positive: furry, unkempt Linux programmers wandering out in the backyard to do routine maintenance on the camera.
Here in Eugene, OR, we have scores of treesitters, and they have the ideal location for helping with yeti@home. To wit: They live in some of the oldest growths of forest in the Pacific NW; they stay in the forest 24-7; they have names like "squirrel" and "sequoia". Further info: http://www.efn.org/~redcloud/
Sometimes, I feel that Linux is a huge, 640M virus just out to ruin my life. Then I remember that resolv.conf only has one "e" in it and continue on with my mission.
It spreads from user to user, and once you're infected, you can never go back.
It has been know to cripple and even destroy WinXX systems to the point of making itself the dominant OS on any machine.
It makes its users say crazy things like "awk", "grep", "FUD", and so on....
but also Zvornik, Brcko(Brka), Vukovar, hell, even Sarajevo. Unfortunately, as much as I would like to play "Billie Bad-Ass", I had to wait for the politicians to do their bit.
As far as I'm concerned, though, we are bringing a temporary peace to the region, but most militaries in the area are just retraining, professionalizing, and getting ready to go at it again.
I've missed anniversaries, birthdays, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and anything in-between so that I could go stop two races of small, rakija-drinking people from killing each other.
Take the time when you can get it. When you have days off, have DAYS OFF. A fact of life is that sometimes you have to work on fun days. If that is below your station, quit, get a job shoveling trash.
At least your computer didn't blow up or try to shoot you. That's not more than I can say about some of my holidays.
Sad to admit it, this is what the bank will read from this letter.
"Hi, I am currently a customer of your bank. I am interested in online banking and making special withdrawals (especially with links to e-commerce), but as an anarchist I know that the only good security is open security. Please send me the source code/protocols/etc of your online security system so I can evaluate it against my capabilities. I will only be considering financial institutions that can make me feel comfortable with their security."
Seems to me that we ALL have been clueless at one time or another. Contrary to what I tell everyone I meet, I was not born coding C and hacking kernels.
There are two things that you laugh about--things that are funny, and things that are true. I think that newbie-bashing by tech-support is hilarious because it trashes the tech-support more than it does the newbies. Have you ever called tech-support and were told that the widget you just payed $1500 for works, you just have to not be an idiot to make it work?
If you do not like a certain type of humor, you are not forced to participate in it. That's what the back button is for on your web browser.
I, for one, cannot stand Jay Leno, because I think he is a mean bastard. I just don't watch him. It's that simple. If you don't like User-Friendly, don't buy the book.
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I think we have the same idea here, we're mostly discussing semantics.
As far as using the easy-but-restrictive interface in everyday use, I think that's a fair idea, and I do see your point that some users won't want to "graduate" to bigger-better things. That's OK with me. Just give me the choice to use whatever level that I want to.
I hate to sharpshoot, but....
A yes/no response takes up one bit, consisting of either a 1 or a 0.
Having said that, I think this is an opportunity for the modularity of Linux to shine through. If you want the easy GUI (the 2-bit one), you can have that, even make it the default install interface so you don't even have to set it up. If you want to work only from a console(the 64-bit interface), that too is acceptable. If you want something in the middle(the 32-bit interface), you have many choices.
Remember, it's all modular. I use KDM at home so that my 3-year old can click on the icon for him to log in and have his own little world (he likes to run 5xXroach, 5xXsnow, and wine at the same time), but I can use the virtual consoles or X if I want to, and I just pick which window manager to use at log-in. Even a no-brainer can figure out how to log in, and the more advanced users can pick which option to use.
"New feature ideas and bug reports will no longer go onto a "wish list"; they will go onto a "hot list." You will face pressure to add 50 new items to the next release, when it really ought to have 10. Wealthy organizations, accustomed to getting their way, will demand impossible schedules from you, and then complain if the quality is not perfect."
Everybody gets hung up on the thought of a big corporation requiring programmers to add whatever features to a program.
But, with the GPL, if a company needs a feature and the primary developer isn't able to add it (either through lack of time or ability), the company can add their own features. Or, they can pay somebody to add their features. Or, they can use the existing program as a framework for their own version that has the features they need. Point is, they have the flexability if they need it, and the primary developer isn't obliged to listen to anybody (although it's a good idea, sometimes it's not practical).
Let's face it--most of the people who would look up a presidential campaign online are probably interested in "Geek Issues", which are not exactly inline with the standard Bi-party system arrangement (mostly libertarian, some business interests in there, empowerment of the masses, things like that)
Why not have the online stuff have information about the GI? Where does a candidate stand on capital gains? cryptography? intellectual property?
I see this huge demographic developing, and nobody is capitalizing on it. It would be so easy, since the net is our medium, how we interract with our society. There are more of us than you think.
Yeah, but she still talks like she just got her braces off.
Maybe I'm old or something (26), but I remember when she was in "Beautiful Girls" as a 13-year old. I was well into adulthood when that was released. The whole idea of her as a sexual object is kinda disgusting to me.
No, not on your website. I mean, around the Movie Industry sites. Sorry for the confusion.
I've looked around, and all I seem to find is the usual "Encryption is good--Protect your Intellectual Property" stuff.
So, you could write your own unencrypted DVD, right? How would that work with the reading software that's set up for encrypted data? It's an interesting spinoff.
I have a theory about DVD-CSS that I want to try out. I encourage debate on this, since I think it's an angle that nobody has looked at yet.
It's the idea that you can't record (not copy) your own DVD without the "official" software.
It doesn't make sense to me that you would control the use of a player for whatever system you have. It's the theory of standardization. The more you sell, the more you sell because you have become the defacto standard for that technology. That's why we use VHS instead of Beta, and why MS kicked booty on Apple. So, it's to your advantage to freely distribute your player ala IE or Acrobat Viewer or Shockwave Plugins.
The film industry is a weird thing. Hollywood was built by accountants. All movies do not make money. How? Everything is taken off of the top, what we call gross points. There is also what we call net points, where you get a percentage of what's left after expenses. Everything gets taken out of gross points, so a studio almost always fails to make a hefty profit. Of course, everyone makes money, but for tax purposes, every movie is a flop.
Now, here come the independent filmmakers. These guys make a movie for less that $50,000, so if a movie makes it big, it makes it BIG! What's even better, these guys make better movies, more suited to thinking intellectuals than the usual mass-marketed pulp.
So, the big studios see these "yahoos" coming in and taking out some slices of the pie, which are needed for the industry system to function, and need a way to up the "profit" margin.
Enter DVD and CSS. The industry gets to pick how you read and write your own DVD's. Make the cost of recording software prohibitively expensive. Don't release recording software for Irix.
The reason that these independents are making movies so cheaply is that they use computer graphics to fix up the footage during editing. That means that they can spend less time shooting on location, which is prohibitively expensive. Once you buy a good CG system, you are limited only by time.
The potential from DVD for independent filmmakers is enormous. I offer the following scenarios:
A) You're an independent filmmaker trying to get a deal to sell your film to a chain of theaters. It's very expensive to get your film transfered to celluloid (film that goes in a projector). That's what the deal guys use to preview movies. So, you burn a DVD from your CG machine (the whole movie's on your hd, remember?) and get a laptop with a DVD player. You have a very portable instant-presentation device. Oh, here, wait a minute, I have it on my laptop, I can show you right now. If you have a couple of these setups, you can take them to show at Sundance or wherever.
B) Several independents get together and form a distributed distribution organization. They use a DVD repository, and manufacturing facilities all over the world. A filmmaker makes his film, loads it on the server, and presses all over the world start distributing this DVD. Sure, it's 8Gigs, but it only gets sent out a couple of times. Big studios are all about distribution--they are the kings of it. What the independent needs is a way to get his product out there in the market. It's a major problem for independents.
C) An independent filmmaker wants to make a film with a message and is not concerned about making any profit. He puts the whole damn thing on the net and lets anybody download it free. My wife, who has a degree in theater, says that it would just make the studios go ballistic that somebody would have a good movie (better that their waste of film) and be giving it away for free.
I just don't know why anybody has thought of this. Maybe we need to start telling the independents about these capabilities that they are missing out on.
For more information about independent films, check out ifc's web page www.ifctv.com or IF magazine www.ifmagazine.com
Tunnel through it with ssh.
However, you need access to open up the port for ssh on the firewall itself, so if it's not your network or you don't get along with the administrator, you can't do it.
Given the average security of most networks, it's already turned on.
Try using vnc and ssh to create your own "Private Virtual Network" and then play it remotely from work.
Ain't technology great.
I can see the PR people when they get ahold of this:
"Linux, the official OS of the largest democracy in the world. Get yours today."
Duh....
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The yeti is a rare species of Himalayan bear that lives above the treeline, according to the great alpinist Reinhold Messner.
http://www.parascope.com/en/articles/yetiBear.h
http://www.tibet.ca/wtnarchive/1998/10/6_6.html
Besides, how can "The Wild Man of the Forest" be a monkey? Hello, People, wake up!!!
One other false positive: furry, unkempt Linux programmers wandering out in the backyard to do routine maintenance on the camera.
Here in Eugene, OR, we have scores of treesitters, and they have the ideal location for helping with yeti@home. To wit: They live in some of the oldest growths of forest in the Pacific NW; they stay in the forest 24-7; they have names like "squirrel" and "sequoia". Further info: http://www.efn.org/~redcloud/
Geez,
You'd think somebody (those other guys) forgot to include humor.h, or somebody urinated in their Cheerios this morning.
Sometimes, I feel that Linux is a huge, 640M virus just out to ruin my life. Then I remember that resolv.conf only has one "e" in it and continue on with my mission.
It spreads from user to user, and once you're infected, you can never go back.
It has been know to cripple and even destroy WinXX systems to the point of making itself the dominant OS on any machine.
It makes its users say crazy things like "awk", "grep", "FUD", and so on....
but also Zvornik, Brcko(Brka), Vukovar, hell, even Sarajevo. Unfortunately, as much as I would like to play "Billie Bad-Ass", I had to wait for the politicians to do their bit.
As far as I'm concerned, though, we are bringing a temporary peace to the region, but most militaries in the area are just retraining, professionalizing, and getting ready to go at it again.
Sure, how many Infantrymen right out of high-school know really what they are getting into when they join.
Your post is funny to me, I guess I have a warped sense of humor.
I did, in March.
And, the Army sent me to language school to learn Russian, at about a total cost of $100,000.
Now I get about $30,000 to go to school. Too cool.
I've been in the US Army for 8 years.
I've missed anniversaries, birthdays, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and anything in-between so that I could go stop two races of small, rakija-drinking people from killing each other.
Take the time when you can get it. When you have days off, have DAYS OFF. A fact of life is that sometimes you have to work on fun days. If that is below your station, quit, get a job shoveling trash.
At least your computer didn't blow up or try to shoot you. That's not more than I can say about some of my holidays.
Sad to admit it, this is what the bank will read from this letter.
"Hi, I am currently a customer of your bank. I am interested in online banking and making special withdrawals (especially with links to e-commerce), but as an anarchist I know that the only good security is open security. Please send me the source code/protocols/etc of your online security system so I can evaluate it against my capabilities. I will only be considering financial institutions that can make me feel comfortable with their security."
Seems to me that we ALL have been clueless at one time or another. Contrary to what I tell everyone I meet, I was not born coding C and hacking kernels.
There are two things that you laugh about--things that are funny, and things that are true. I think that newbie-bashing by tech-support is hilarious because it trashes the tech-support more than it does the newbies. Have you ever called tech-support and were told that the widget you just payed $1500 for works, you just have to not be an idiot to make it work?
If you do not like a certain type of humor, you are not forced to participate in it. That's what the back button is for on your web browser.
I, for one, cannot stand Jay Leno, because I think he is a mean bastard. I just don't watch him. It's that simple. If you don't like User-Friendly, don't buy the book.
Just my opinion.
Sure, and selling a product that you don't even have yet (ala DOS) is very *ballsy*, you have to admit.
I was in Elementary School when the Space Shuttle blew up.... I guess I'm getting old. 26 and already over the hill.
He's not as radical now, since the church pardoned him a couple of years back.
Of course, the world is flat. Just like my head.
And, everyone knows that the planets revolve around ME.