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Loki may port Starcraft and Diablo II
Michael Simms writes "According to an article in the Loki Requests newsgroup, Sam Lantinga, lead programmer for Loki Games states that
'We are going to try to do Starcraft and Diablo II as soon as we sell enough units to make it interesting to Blizzard'
One way to help to persuade Blizzard that they should work with Loki on this is to sign the Games Petitions Page run by Tux Games.
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... Oskari ports Buzz to Linux!
I won't even complain if he uses winelib.
This is why you need to play _people_. I played through one of the campaigns back in 1996 when I first played War2 - it was ok, but nothing even remotely approaching multiplayer. I'm glad to see there are some posts here where the age of a game doesn't disqualify it as a good game. I don't think I could ever get sick of War2.
I've bought five games from Loki and Unreal Tournament because of the Linux support. Profit is the only real development which will prod games makers into supporting Linux over the long haul. I earn a good deal of money from my UNIX and Linux skills, so I'm in a position to use this to support those projects and companies promote those values and products I desire. If you're earning a good salery from this you should put your money where your signature is as well and go to the Loki web site and plunk some money down for that game you've always wanted under Linux.
:-)
There's one depressing problem with this... unfortunately Civ: Call To Power has kept me up to all hours destroying my daytime productivity. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
I the case of "Diablo II", I'd be willing to send a check for $49.95 to Loki right this minute that they can cash the second they ship me the game. Perhaps that sort of thing would convince Blizzard that they'd get sales.
The cake is a pie
What I want to know is what Loki title is in the lead? CivII? Myth2? Where is my money best spent, IOW .
We need NEW RELEASE games damnit.
... and Pokemon ...
Exactly! Which is why we need The Sims on Linux
Will in Seattle
I'm sorry to say this, and unlike most people who say "I hate to tell this..." I am acually sorry, but OpenBSD is a good networking option for the paranoid, but it is simply nuts to think that it will ever be a platform with alot of games. A game platform has a wide install base. OBSD is as far from a consumer OS as you can find! And OBSD's main feature, security --with completely anal device + file write permissions-- just isn't very conducive?
Were you just putting us on?
Just because Loki isn't giving the sales figures to the public doesn't mean they aren't giving them to Blizzard/other game publishers under a NDA.
:wq
Someone demi-flamed me here during the recent open forum on games when I was hopping up and down for Sierra to port Homeworld. Basically he told me WINE runs Homeworld just fine. Turns out he's right. It runs homeworld but the mouse is really slooow, clicks often don't take effect til the focus catches up with the onscreen appearance of the mouse. IMO, WINE for games is neat parlor trick when you can get the more advanced ones going, but thats about it. MAybe the other ones people mention such as Starcraft work better, i dunno. I just want the ports. I have a hard time understanding why some game companies are being so dense about this--can't they see other areas of Linux app development and porting rocketting to the moon? The rest of us do.
I suggest http://www.csoft.net/ as a hosting company. They charge like $15/mo for the best setup you could possibly want.
what about the firewall?
Scott's not even sharing those numbers within the industry.
Well, what blizzard says is "Well, Everyone with Linux has Windows too, so why should we port?", so you should remove Windows, and *then* try to beg blizzard for a port, not the other way around.
Blizz will never port.
The reply that I got when I bothered them was "Well, all the Linux users have Windows too, so there's no reason to do a port."
Well, I don't have Windows, and I'm not going to buy any Windows games. The only O/S I've got is Linux, and so I'll just be happy with CIV:CTP until there's other good games avalible. (Yes, I know there's Quake III, but I don't like FPS's)
If all you other Linux gamers could do this too (only buy Linux games, ditch Windows or MacOS), then we'd see some more Linux games.
-- The act of censorship is always worse than whatever is being censored. Always.
While I would like to do this; I am of the opinion that our support would be far more productively directed at corporeal retail establishments. Linux has yet to seriously break through there and needs to.
Anyway, the guys at the store thought Linux was a waste of shelf space for awhile at least until the base grew larger. I tried to explain but they were clueless.
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Not, how many people buy Linux games compared to windows games? 0.001%?
You would be surprised how long some games remain popular. I can't name any names without breaking an NDA... '-)
Yeah, surely Linux will fix all her problems. She'll never have to ask you any computer related questions again!
First, I have top convince my MS-addicted friends that yes, there are such things as *spreadsheets* and *web browsers* for Linux. I find this gap in understanding amazing.
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Yes, but StarOffice5.1 is no where near as advanced as Office 2000 still! Lack of antialising makes documents look horrible and ugly. And well, no need to coment on the web browsers available.
But you presume that Windows is unstable....so how is it that the games are stable? When it crashes, how do you know it's windows and not blizzard's games.
However The Linux Emporium has lots of Loki games mail order.
Enjoy
j
I'm pretty extreme (No Windows here) but I make an exception for proprietary games because it's not obvious that we could support similar Free products NOW or possibly even in the future. This just isn't true for application classes like the Office Suite or IDE where high quality Free equivalents are already in progress, and I don't expect that to change.
Also, Games just aren't going to stand in the way of World Domination, there's no way that Bill Gates could have steered a Games company to the point where it makes headline news every time he sneezes. So I spend $65 importing Q3A for Linux and Myth II but I don't expect that to make me any less Free.
Finally, I can see money spent on ID games, at least, as a future investment in Free Software, they've released Doom and now Quake as GPL software, and there's no reason to think this policy will stop for as long as they're profitable.
Nick.
thanks a lot. this looks to be exactly what i needed.
I have always found it an interesting concept so many Open Source people will pay for a game :-) hehe I guess everyone has to bend there ideology a little for QIII :-)
Everquest's cool, but if Wolf Pack pulls off what they're aiming for (and it's looking like they might...) you're going to want it over EQ. I'd be petitioning for EQ, but I'd also be petitioning for ShadowBane. There's a petition going on at one of the news sites. Go over there and put your vote in.
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
For all those out there bitching over the $50 price tag on some of these Loki games, I note that EBWorld has several Loki titles for between $25 and $29... very reasonable. The games are Heretic II, Hero's of Might and Magic, and Railroad Tycoon. They did have Myth II for $25, but it looks like they've sold this out! Good.
If there is anyone interested in filing a class action suit against the Nethack dev team for causing sleep depravation please email frank_rizzo000@hotmail.com.
I am totally serious about this. I also need the name of the laywers who are representing the AOLers in their suit so I can get them to represent us.
If those nit-wits can sue AOL for 8 billion I figure we can get a couple mill from the nethack coders. They must be held accountable for my addiction to Nethack
Personally, a lot of games suck. Warcraft really was good, but it's old and other games have copied it's idea so many times I can't even bare to play them. I bought Civ:CTP from Loki, and I played it for a few days. But I probably won't buy Quake 3. I bought Q3 for Windows, and honestly, I played for 10 minutes and it's boring. TeamFortress was what made Quake1 so great, and that it was free. Deathmatch is just dumb.
I would rather see some GPL games come straight from the linux community for linux. I have caught a glimpse of Golgotha on http://www.golgotha.org/ but I couldn't tell what they were really up to. =) The real question is: "Can you make a game GPL and it be successful like linux, or will the same idiots that post asinine things about natalie portman spend their worthless lives exploiting those games with things like the modified Quake1 clients?"
And for those of you who post the most useless posts here, you will get a standing ovation someday. Unfortunately for you, it will be at your funeral.
YES!!! Imagine how good EverQuest would be with a non-crappy IP stack!
What is it with Starcraft anyway. I have never met anyone who likes it. My friend bought it and he tried to give it away but people kept giving it back to him (including myself). It has the same pace as watching paint dry. Dialog II ? Civilization ? Heroes of Might and Magic ? Fun games ? I must be missing something very large for these games to get such good reviews.
At about 11:12am, Feb. 03, a couple of eyeball-checks showed 12 new signatures for Starcraft per minute.
My room mate keeps asking me her damn DOS questions (It's windows 98 but it's still DOS) and I got sick of dealing with the environment YEARS ago. Port Dungeon Keeper 2 and I'll be able to wipe 'doze off her system and install Linux. Please please PLEASE!
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Starcraft's pretty old, but then again, so is chess. Quality strategy games have this habit of hanging around for a while...
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Got a petition for it and everything.
http://sb.drtwister.com/linux/
Wolfpack Studios, which is developing the new massively-multiplayer game (screenshots at http://sb.drtwister.com/sb-media.html) acknowledged the petition, at the very least. Got 300+ entries so far, sure could use more!
This is the one that's being developed with OpenGL as its primary graphics API, with Windows and Mac versions. All they want to know is that Linux users are a viable market.
Thanks to TuxGames for the plug.
J.
damned vulpine
http://sb.drtwister.com/
damned vulpine http://sb.drtwister.com/
Slashdot is a good place to start looking on what is coming next...
Lea
I will never "buy" Starcraft for Linux. FGS, it's two years after they relased the game. That's an eternity in the gaming world. We asked Blizzard b4, and they said, "No, no market". Now that Starcraft is showing it's age they want to milk every single last ounce of profit for it.
NO, NO WAY....
I have my CD-KEY, and I bought Starcraft once it got out. So, if Blizzard really wants to show some goodwill, they better release the game binaries free to people who already have the windows version (Just do a CD-KEY check).
Most probably they won't since they got bought out by that big firm (that had a little problem with their accounting, hehehehe).
Then again if Diablo II for Linux is good, I might consider buying it, but I will never ever buy the same game twice so I can run it on two platforms.
Games I can do without, especially those from companies that don't give about anything other than their bottom line.
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I agree with all that... The thing I forgot to mention was I really like strategy games. To this day I am still playing Total Annihilation and have finished BattleZone II twice... For some reason Starcrap just gets my panties in a bunch. It is just too damn slow for me...
I doubt they'd do it. Last I asked a Blizzard guy, they were 100% NT. Their servers are NT, their workstations, their development machines etc.. Would be interesting if they did though.
The game should run fine with any of the 3 BSDs on x86 with linux compat. As for the people running Free/Open/Net on a non-x86 platform, I think you are going to have to bite the bullet. Unless you get bochs :)
-bugg
If you look at the news thread here, it suggests that Blizzard wants Millions of copies, not hundreds, not thousands -- one thing that the post on Linuxgames neglected to point out.
Whoa..of course people still play it, i play SC reguarly, and on b.net there is average of 30k people on, constantly.
(It's hard enough avoiding "nethack".)
Tell me about it! NetHack is the best game ever made. Well, it would be, if it were multiplayer... I've thought about tackling that challenge, but then I realize it's like 3MB (compressed) of source code... hmmm... no, not right now... Though, I've also heard of efforts to do nasty things like add a 3D graphical interface to nethack, which makes me sick. That defeats the purpose! As I envision multiplayer nethack, each player would simply be an @ symbol, and you'd have multiple @s on the screen at once (provided you could see each other). I have no idea how difficult this would be to implement. You'd have to have some sort of server keep track of the maps... and the fact that the game is basically turn based makes things even more difficult. Oh well, probably never happen.
Supreme Lord High Commander of the Interstellar Task Force for the Eradication of Stupidity
Tunnel through it with ssh.
However, you need access to open up the port for ssh on the firewall itself, so if it's not your network or you don't get along with the administrator, you can't do it.
Given the average security of most networks, it's already turned on.
I do what the voices on my console tell me to do.
But why not? That's my question. Why would Loki have an NDA about sales figures? I might be able to understand if sales sucked, and they want ed to cover it up, but I have a feeling sales are at least moderately good, if not exceptionally good. And if so, why not brag about it? What's the big secret?
Will people please just use a little bit of thought before they moderate?
(Is it just me, or does (html tags to text) no longer work)?
The cake is a pie
sorry about the time, but i just read this once. Now i know i can see which posts got replied... But you presume that Windows is unstable....so how is it that the games are stable? When it crashes, how do you know it's windows and not blizzard's games. Thats a good point. But Diablo has never crashed me or made windows crash either. thats why. And, when windows crashes, there is the need of restarting the OS, and the well known blue screen. When the app crahses, you only need restart the app.
errera hunamum ets
Great! Now, finally, I can throw away my Win95 partition, and use only the Linux one. With Starcraft on Linux, I need nothing else!
It's about time for me. I love Starcraft more than any other game!
I was just thinking how I need to use less wine with my games. This would help a lot... :)
Kudos to Blizzard for all their great work and here's hoping that they decide to support Linux gaming.
Port Everquest and I can wipe this virus masquarading as an OS from M$.
Alpha Centauri and Rollercoaster Tycoon?
Tuxgames.com seems slashdotted... I keep getting an internal server error. Oh well, try again later.
Cheers!
CvD.
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You know, I put together my Linux box because I kept telling myself "Self, you should really stop wasting all that time playing games, and do some real programming and stuff". So I get the linux box. I download egcs. I start throwing some stuff together.
And what happens?
I download a bunch of demos from Loki. Have I done anything worthwhile since? No...
Now they are porting the sequel to one of the most addictive games I've ever played ("Diablo") and the successor to one of the other most addictive games I've ever played ("Alpha Centauri", the true successor to "Civilization II").
Bastards. Now I'm never going to get anything real done.
All I can say is that it is a damn good thing I can't play these things in a telnet session, or I wouldn't get anything done at work, either. (It's hard enough avoiding "nethack".)
The cake is a pie
Of course, the other way to convince blizzard is to buy things from lokisoft, to show them that there is a market for linux things.
...is Sim City 3000. Sure, it's a challenge, but it is the best game EVER.
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Hey if anyone is interested in Rumors like this my message-board for the Loki Portal page a has a Rumor Section. So check it out! Go to the Loki Portal Page!
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Its about time Blizzard (and other good game companies) got on the clue-train. We've been after them for years.
Bowie J. Poag
Project Manager, PROPAGANDA For Linux (http://propaganda.themes.org)
Bowie J. Poag
First, I have top convince my MS-addicted friends that yes, there are such things as *spreadsheets* and *web browsers* for Linux. I find this gap in understanding amazing.
Then I have to convince them that, while some dists are very hard to install, others will hold your hand. This, to me, is a very valid concern from the point of view of Joe AOL and Marsha MS. [Ed: May not be actual people, but demeaning archetypes.] But there are answers here, too.
But it's very tough to come up with a satisfying response to the people who won't switch over until they can get some games. Games are as important, in terms of comforting the average user, as many other features they think about when they compare two oses (even when the comparison isn't accurate). The more games that get ported, the better it is for us, of course, and the better it is for the general acceptability of the os.
Of course, the trick is not to be as snobby as we sometimes are with regards to other issues. Sure, starcraft is the greatest rts game in history, and unreal the greatest fps, but those deer-hunting games sell. Point being, we should watch the snide remarks when Game Hunter XLVII gets ported, cause it's a stupid game, but it's indicative of the fact that Linux is winning market share, which, i think we can agree, is a good thing, relatively speaking.
god is just pretend.
Well, basically this means that we need to by loki games and let them get some figures to show Blizzard. Now, personally, I think Quake3 will be the vehicle. It just has the best chance, not these (sorry, Loki, I still love you guys) older, almost second tier games. Heavy gear 2 will be a good one, but it is not a Quake game. It might also be time for us to revisit the linux advocacy how-to and not say mean things to Blizzard demanding games. A tasteful email to them would be in order, something to the effect that you are a gamer and you have bought such and such games from blizzard, and love their company, and would like to see them have linux ports, or allow Loki (who has done an excellent job) to. In some sense we need a CONTROLLED slashdot effect on blizzard.
;)
You have no idea (well maybe you do) of how much I want Diablo 2 for linux. As with everyone and his brother, I swore to remove windows from my machine if they ported it. The reason is because it is big enough that Linux will have a slew of games out by the time I am done
-- Who is the bigger fool? The fool or the fool who follows him? --
For anyone interested in linux games, point your news-reader to news.lokigames.com and keep track there. You can also get some good support on install/running problems on their games.
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Looking at the WINE app database it appears that Starcraft runs pretty well under WINE. This makes me wonder if the port could be done simply by using WINElib and fixing the few remaining bugs (mainly multiplayer stuff) that may be left. Any thoughts?
Does anyone know where I can buy Loki's games in the UK?
I'm a longtime regular on the Battle.net (aka Blizzard) forums, and I guess this means that someone was paying attention. Its quite a regular thing seeing requests posted in the War Room asking for Starcraft/Broodwar/Diablo II to be ported over. The usual answer they get is "When there is enough marketshare, I'm sure Blizzard will", because they always port stuff over to Mac, eveuntally. Honestly, Diablo II is one that seems a lot more likely then Starcraft, considering how old Starcraft is now. But its still the best RTS game out there, no matter how old it is. Does anyone remember the game that was supposed to kill it? No? It was called Tiberian something... well whatever it was called isn't important. The problem with porting Starcraft is that a lot of the playerbase of people who want it ported already have Windows versions and either dual boot or play in WINE. So are these people who are asking for it actually willing to buy it *again* just to have a native linux version? Thats the real question with Starcraft.. not how many new players you can get that way (which isn't enough), but how many existing ones will buy it again to get a linux version. Its the existing ones who ask for a port. Diablo II on the other hand is another story, and could very well get ported happily. (ps - I saw another post where someone complaiend about how long DII is taking... all I have in reply is this: Do you want a bug riddled game released now, or a kick ass one released later? Personally, I'd rather not have to download an 18mb patch just to make the game playable out of the box)
-- "So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated." - Bill Gates
Simcity, Diablo, Starcraft, all cutting edge games
that will bring Linux around as a viable gamming platform... heh, if those games weren't OLD.
Listen to what Im saying, please. The PC gaming market is driven by the hardcore gamer, 80% of the typical games revenue is made in the first few months of release, and the people who buy games when they come out are hardcore gamers. If you don't have those types of people on your gaming platform, then the game companies don't have as much of a reason to write the games.
Starcraft, and Diablo are both excellent games, I'm a huge Blizzard fan myself, but porting old games isn't going to turn Linux into the mainstream gaming platform we want it to be.
We need NEW RELEASE games damnit.
Look at http://www.neverwinternights.com
For what I consider to be the most exciting example.
Sigs are awesome huh?
You have to like Strategy games to like Starcraft... if you like action oriented games (like quake), look elsewhere. Personally I find quake to be interesting for about five seconds. But a good hour long game of Broodwar (thats the Starcraft Expansion) just leaves me wanting a rematch.
The reason why Starcraft is considered by many as the best RTS ever is a combination of things... the game comes with a kick ass map editor. Combined with other tools, you can make entire campaigns and do TC's and the like, not many other RTS's even come close to the level of editing you can do to Starcraft.
They actually managed to create three totally different yet basically equal races, so that as any one race you have a chance of beating any other race (assuming the players are the same skill level).
The game is actually *strategy* oriented. Try using a strategy that involves simply making lots of units and attacking (like you can do in C&C type games) a good player. They will absolutly shread you if they use any kind of actual strategy. Thats not because defenses are really strong, actually they are rather weak. Its because massing units doesn't work that well against experienced players, you need to actually have some level of strategy to beat them.
The singleplayer storyline actually exists and is actually good (especially in Broodwar). I know the idea of a storyline might be a stretch to any first person shooter fans, but it certainly adds something to the game.
Thats about all I can think of right now. But you really do have to be a fan of RTS games to like Starcraft, there is more then just killing stuff involved, so FPS fans will probably not like it.
-- "So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated." - Bill Gates
Best strategy? StarCraft is a very pretty and well executed game, with nicely balanced sides and a great storyline.
However it has no 3D terrain, no true line of sight, sucky limited resource model, no water units, no sub units, planes don't land, maps aren't big enough for good 8 player games, and you have to micromanage constantly.
Time to acknowledge the one true greatest RTS of all time ... Total Annihilation. I would pay good money for a Linux port of TA. How 'bout it, Loki? Linux port of TA Gold edition (ie, including Battle Tactics and Core Contingency) for $50?
(Well, maybe not the greatest of all time. After all, Homeworld is out now. Just gotta wait for XFree4 and Loki can port that too. :)
A petition only shows possible support -- and when its linked to slashdot, you can be sure that the petition will be worthless. I can guarantee you that 2/3rds of the people that say "I'm willing tto pay 80$+ for this game", thinking they're being clever and fooling blizzard into porting their games, WON'T buy the game. The only way to actually convince Blizzard (or any other company) is to go out and buy Loki's titles. Everyone has interest, but i bet you that a good portion won't put their money where their mouth is. moderate this down if you want, I'm sure nobody cares anyway.
I know, I know, they need more sales until Blizzard will even think of it, but still, just the idea that they're aware of the Linux audience is a good sign.
I recall that, of the games mentioned in the recent "What games would you love to see ported", Starcraft and Diablo were right up there, as well as future Blizzard endeavors. There's definitely a market.
And finally, on a more personal note, I got back from Electronics Boutique today, and I've been playing Heroes of Might and Magic III all day
Ahh, the beauty of games for Linux....
-Denor
Alright, I love Loki. I bought MythII and Eric's Ultimate Solitaire (EUS was just for my wife I swear) from Electronic's Boutique. Anyway, the guys at the store thought Linux was a waste of shelf space for awhile at least until the base grew larger. I tried to explain but they were clueless.
:-> fall by the wayside. Nobody seems to be talking about in the era of the big IPOs about how well the big gamer company is doing in a tough market.
Anyway, how much money is Loki making? Are they on sound footing? The article mentioned Blizzard only wanting in after so many boxes shipped from Loki. I would hate to see a good company with sound business and demo release policies
ACK
If you like Windows for gaming, disregard this post. :)
I bought Myth II for Linux a month ago and loved it! It runs fast, the graphics are great and best of all, no crashing! I am planning on buying one Linux game a month.
If you want to game on Linux _now_ is the time to buy a Linux game. You know you want to...
And just think that you can justify the purchase to your significant other. "But I have to buy a Linux game to help all the other people out!"
Buying a Linux game is alturistic, because if Loki sells enough games, then future games will come out for Linux at the same time as Windows. They don't care what OS they sell their games on, only that the games that they sell make money.
So help everyone out and buy a Linux version of a game today. (And have fun playing those games!)
Look out Civ, here I come!
-- Never make a general statement.
I know a large number of people who still play Starcraft regularly. Its one of the best multiplayer strategy games ever. Blizzard is a great company. Its one of the few game companies whose software I have felt was worthwhile to purchase.
:)
I know my name is on the list.
I need to try starcraft under wine sometimes soon though.
"Anyone who can't laugh at himself is not taking life seriously enough." - Larry Wall
PS. Eidos, let's NOT port anything to do with Tomb Raider...
kwsNI
Wonder if there will be a patch or binary that will let ppl w/ the windows CD play it on linux w/o having to repurchase the game.
(alas, i have a copy from when i used to dual boot way back when...)
-Jae
Try using vnc and ssh to create your own "Private Virtual Network" and then play it remotely from work.
Ain't technology great.
I do what the voices on my console tell me to do.
> This is somewhat old news for anyone who's been keeping track on the loki.requests
:-(
... but without the sale figure, its hard.
I emailed Loki this week asking what the sales of Linux games was, and they said it was under NDA.
I'm still trying to convince management that its a good thing to port our game to Linux though
Cheers
Michael
3d game programmer
> I can't believe that NT 5 (err, sorry, Windows 2000) is going to beat Diablo II out the door.
Win2K has already shipped. Its just not available until Feb 17.
Diablo II won't be out till the Mar-Jun slot.
Cheers
Michael
3d game programmer
Unfortunately... best bets are to play on an alternate server like x-force.dhs.org, fsgs.com, or to just play in private channels with people you know.
-- "So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated." - Bill Gates
"Anyone who can't laugh at himself is not taking life seriously enough." - Larry Wall
I've tried (unsuccessfully) to ge one of my ALL TIME FAVORITE games (i.e DIABLO) to run under WINE. Anyone had success? I also tried ATF GOLD unsuccessfully. About my only WINE success is Solitaire... for about five minutes till boredom bounced my head off the screen and woke me up. At least Quake, Quake2, LXdoom, and linux-hexen work great. DIABLO2 would be great. I like the ability to run Quake1 & 2 under both. I hope Diablo2 includes that.
Don't forget that there are other porters out there, as well. Apparently Sir-Tech's _Jagged Alliance 2_ and its to-be-released expansion pack "Unfinished Business" are both being ported by a company called Tribsoft. They don't appear to have announced any other projects yet, 'tho, although they're taking suggestions.
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
I remember reading, dont' know if it was from Loki's newgroup, linuxgames.com, or maybe even a slasdot post. But Blizzard said they would have linux ports when Loki's sales reached 50,000 units a game.
Whether that's true or not, I don't know. But it does bringup and interesting question. How many games HAS Loki sold? I mean, I'd assume 50,000 linux users(me being one of them)bought Quake 3 Arena. And I know there has to be 50,000 linux users in the world that want Sim City 3000.
It also brings up a second question. Do linux gamers buy games they wouldn't have normally bought JUST to get the sales figures up so games they DO want get released? That's a big weight on a comsumers sholders. The idea of "If you don't buy game x which you don't like, you may not game y which you been waiting for for over a year" is not one many people want to be put in, including myself.
I've bought Quake 3 Arena, I'm looking forward to Sim City 3000, and I'll buy what good games come out for linux that I want to play. I won't be forced into buying a $50 game that I don't like to "maybe" get a port of a game I do.
Lara Croft with a penguin in her arms.
Makes me think of naked open source petrified things. Heh.
I run OpenBSD. Where can I get some games? :(
I look at some of these games and the average suggested price of many are over $50!!
This isn't flamebait, but my opinion, I am not able to pay more than about $25 for ANY game, or for that matter any software in general. I am a student, and on a budget. The end result of this is I get a game that's been out for a while and everybody else has mastered it already, I get my A** kicked a few dozen times at it, then I am a competitive player, if I play networked, or I play the scenarios and then decide I don't want to play any further. In this case I pass the game on to one of my friends, lock, stock and barrel.
This is my opinion, there are laws against being killed for having one.
Laugh, it's good for you!
Keep trying though, the voting isnt going anywhere!
Tux Games. Your complete source for native Linux games.
When StarCraft first came out (in 98 I believe), it probably was the best strategy game at that point. And, like some of the people that posted here, I kept my windoze for no other reason than to play it.
Eventually I got tired of rebooting into windoze for it, and now I haven't played it in almost 6 months...
So for me, this port (when and if it's going to come) is too late. But it's still good to see that games companies are starting to develop for Linux...
If I can replace all my sons games with Linux
versions, will I get a discount?
I mean really, I've got a lot of money tied up in
MS based games. Plus, I don't want to buy
Win2000.