Reminds me of a conversation I had yesterday, talking about highschool reunions - I mentioned that a girl in my class had been the hottest chick ever when we were in year 8, then stopped to think "hey, I just said a 12-year-old was once the most shaggable chick in my world". I figured it was OK because I was 11 at the time, but according to this law, maybe I should be in jail for thoughtcrime...
Point. It's more like _photographs_ of ivory being illegal. Which is getting pretty tenuous.
If no children were ever raped again, a large library of child porn would continue to exist and could be used.
Actually, that reminded me strongly of the body of research done by German scientists on Jewish prisoners during WW2. A great deal of very valuable scientific data were gathered through a great deal of incredibly inhumane experiments... and I believe there's quite a bit of debate as to whether the data should be used to help people, or discarded due to its 'dirty' origin.
How is this a troll? Any red blooded male would find most 17-year-old women attractive. It's disingenuous to pretend that at 17 years 11 months, a female human is a child and completely nonsexual but at 18 she suddenly becomes sexual.
1. The explicit depiction of sexual subject matter, especially with the sole intention of sexually exciting the viewer.
A picture doesn't even need to be nude; it could be argued that most modern music videos are "porn", in the sense that they're designed specifically to arouse prurient interest even if the actors are fully clothed.
One of them is the purchase of howitzers by civilians. Most would just show them off, and perhaps polish them. A very few would put shells in them. A very few of those would fire them. A very few of them, would do so indiscriminately.
s/howitzer/handgun/g
While there's some debate, it seems to have been settled fairly solidly in favour of licensed civilians being allowed to purchase concealed carry weapons. And we're talking here about a machine designed with the express purpose of killing people, very efficiently, from a distance. Surely a pattern of ink on a piece of paper (or of light on a computer screen) is less potentially harmful than a firearm?
Those that endeavor into simulations of things that are illegal for the purpose of gratification of others continue to abet the idea that sex with children is ok, good, to be lauded, or be gratified with. That's not a good idea, and leads to porn.
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to borrow a [citation needed] flag from a wikinazi and wave it around a bit for this one.
Actually, pirates (who are staunch think-of-the-children activists despite the beards and eye patches) saw the running naked through the sprinkler generation and left for chillier climes, because they couldn't bear to see young children so abused.
And we all know that pirates combat global warming.
Show me one system where simply "waiting" is in any way really showing that you're able to do something or that you should be allowed to do it.
Navy Seal training. Caveat: You're not allowed to breathe while doing your "waiting".:P (gogo free dive training!)
Seriously though, I agree. This was something I struggled with during my late teens - how do I know when I stop being a boy and start being a man? Modern society has no real thresholds to cross (barring the aforementioned booze, graduation and drivers' license). I know guys who are in their 40s who I'd class as boys, and guys who are 18 and are supporting wives and kids (which qualifies them as men in my book).
Personally I think it occurs the first time you really stand up to your parents, and tell them "no, I am doing this my way, it is my decision now, not yours". It's definitely to do with accepting personal responsibility, anyway.
Incidentally, this is what finally killed Cub Scouts for me - when I realised that the "sixers" and "seconds" were chosen not based on merit but on seniority. I got to 'second' and quit.
There is a rational number x that sufficiently approximates Pi such that if all engineering computations throughout history used x instead of pi they would still be sufficiently precise."
This is true enough - IIRC a couple of hundred decimal places of Pi is sufficient to calculate the circumference of the solar system from its radius to a resolution of a few atoms. Yeah, fair call.
I'm sorry, I have a three year old and neither she nor her friends is capable of determining when it is and isn't okay to hit. You are probably right that she could tell the difference if I were punishing rather than hurting her, but she sure wouldn't be able to meter out her own "punishment" on other kids.
Exactly. She knows the difference between you spanking her when she's bad, and you laying into her and hurting her. She should know full well that it's not her place to punish other kids at all - she's a kid, not an adult. Punishing kids for breaking rules is one of the things adults do.
[...]two very strong statistical correlations with spanking. [...] Parents who hit their kids are much more likely to abuse their kids...
Again, parents *hitting* kids is strongly correlated with child abuse. It *is* child abuse. Parents spanking kids for bad behavior is different, as you agree your daughter could tell you. You say yourself that you wouldn't spank because you might one day hit them instead - I agree that one can lead to the other but that's an issue of parental self control.
By your choice of language, we agree on the distinction between spanking (mild physical sensation accompanying verbal disciplining, reserved for "I really mean it" moments) and hitting (actual violence against the child).
Yes, YES to the kid. I know, from personal experience. Then again I was the kind of kid you could reason with, even at 3... My mum would smack me if I was bad (for instance, if I swore). It was a tiny pat on the backside, administered with a great show of disapproval, that did nothing to me physically but by god did I know mum was not happy with me. On the other hand, dad occasionally had anger management issues and a couple of times thumped us kids. Still on the backside, looked like a smack apart from the fact that we'd be dangling by one arm at that point, but if you're telling me that we didn't know the difference, I'd like what you're smoking.
So any time anyone says "smacking promotes violence in kids, because they can't tell the difference between smacking and hitting", well, in my case they were wrong. There's a few things in my childhood that if I'd been there now as an observer, I'd have thumped my dad *hard* upside the head for. There's nothing like that concerning my mum.
Not only silicon... NASA astronauts consistently observe bright flashes in orbit, whether their eyes are open or closed. It is believed that these flashes are the result of cosmic rays interacting with the astronauts' retinas.
True that money isn't everything, but if I could move stuff around with my mind, or read the details off an envelope that's inside a safe, I wouldn't feel like a freak, I'd just feel FREAKIN' AWESOME! And I'd want to know how I did what I did, and how to teach other people to do it (if possible), and whether there was anything else I could do that I hadn't discovered yet. I'd want to know what my abilities meant for conventional science, and what new engineering techniques they would lead to. Hiding away a gift that could fundamentally change our understanding of the world would be a crime against humanity.
In my experience, people who claim paranormal powers generally do so because they want to feel special, and so they see attempts to verify their 'powers' as personal attacks, knowing they'll only be discredited.
I've seen the first couple of episodes, and while it was extremely random and somewhat unpretty, the bit where the girl says "nuuuuu" and rubs the main male character's hand on her tit has become somewhat of a recurring meme for my wife and I... so it's not all bad.:)
In short, if you want to know, go look; nobody is going to go to the trouble of providing anything for you if you can't be bothered to invest the energy to put in the requisite work through exploring. If you don't want to know, then carry on as you are.
I'm one of those people who really, really wants magic to be real. Sadly, I'm not an idiot, and so I can't just wish upon a star and then tell myself it worked - I have to actually try and test it. Every single time I've found something that looks like it *might* be working, any remotely rigorous testing shows it's just imagination and confirmation bias.
Hell, at one stage my Dad was insisting he could feel peoples' auras by waving his hands around. This went on for months until I finally stood in front of him, made him close his eyes, and then told him to show me exactly where my aura was, by feel. He'd pretty confidently found it by a minute later, by which time I was on the other side of the room.
If anyone could do anything remotely genuine in the paranormal sense then solving a trivial problem like "read what's in the envelope in my pocket" would net them an easy million. I can't see a single non-bullshit reason not to claim such a prize... if you genuinely can.
Nothing wrong with 1280x1024 @ 17". I've been using that resolution and screen size (well two of 'em but yeah) for the past 3-4 years, 10-12 hours a day with no problems.
I have to say I love my new 24" LCD though... makes me sad that I paid $600 each for two 17" a few years back (still going strong, my wife uses 'em now) and it was $300-odd for a 24" 1920x1080 screen...
I don't see why simply providing a gateway test between different stages of life necessarily implies only two stages of life. I could see a series of tests like this working. A child is considered a child until they pass their 'teen rites', at which time they become an adolescent and are accorded more respect and responsibility. Sort of like being a journeyman adult. When they feel ready (usually around 16, 17ish) they attempt another rite of passage which qualifies them as a full adult.
This is often suggested as something which would help teens find their place in the world, and probably reduce the number of irresponsible manchild types around. The closest we get in our modern society is turning 18, at which point they hand you a bottle of vodka and your car keys... not what I'd call a good message.:P
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Reminds me of a conversation I had yesterday, talking about highschool reunions - I mentioned that a girl in my class had been the hottest chick ever when we were in year 8, then stopped to think "hey, I just said a 12-year-old was once the most shaggable chick in my world". I figured it was OK because I was 11 at the time, but according to this law, maybe I should be in jail for thoughtcrime...
If no children were ever raped again, a large library of child porn would continue to exist and could be used.
Actually, that reminded me strongly of the body of research done by German scientists on Jewish prisoners during WW2. A great deal of very valuable scientific data were gathered through a great deal of incredibly inhumane experiments... and I believe there's quite a bit of debate as to whether the data should be used to help people, or discarded due to its 'dirty' origin.
Luckily, sanity has prevailed (for now) but it looked very much like these three girls would, indeed, be charged for that.
How is this a troll? Any red blooded male would find most 17-year-old women attractive. It's disingenuous to pretend that at 17 years 11 months, a female human is a child and completely nonsexual but at 18 she suddenly becomes sexual.
If a nude picture is designed [...] to appeal specifically to sexual gratification, is it porn?
Yes, by definition.
1. The explicit depiction of sexual subject matter, especially with the sole intention of sexually exciting the viewer.
A picture doesn't even need to be nude; it could be argued that most modern music videos are "porn", in the sense that they're designed specifically to arouse prurient interest even if the actors are fully clothed.
One of them is the purchase of howitzers by civilians. Most would just show them off, and perhaps polish them. A very few would put shells in them. A very few of those would fire them. A very few of them, would do so indiscriminately.
s/howitzer/handgun/g
While there's some debate, it seems to have been settled fairly solidly in favour of licensed civilians being allowed to purchase concealed carry weapons. And we're talking here about a machine designed with the express purpose of killing people, very efficiently, from a distance. Surely a pattern of ink on a piece of paper (or of light on a computer screen) is less potentially harmful than a firearm?
Those that endeavor into simulations of things that are illegal for the purpose of gratification of others continue to abet the idea that sex with children is ok, good, to be lauded, or be gratified with. That's not a good idea, and leads to porn.
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to borrow a [citation needed] flag from a wikinazi and wave it around a bit for this one.
Unless you have arthritis and your fingers only bend 90 degrees. Then it's the guy to your left's fault.
Everyone knows that sex offenders float when hog tied and thrown in water. How much more scientific do you need?
Well, that depends. What's something that floats? A duck! Does a sex offender weigh more or less than a duck?
Actually, pirates (who are staunch think-of-the-children activists despite the beards and eye patches) saw the running naked through the sprinkler generation and left for chillier climes, because they couldn't bear to see young children so abused.
And we all know that pirates combat global warming.
Show me one system where simply "waiting" is in any way really showing that you're able to do something or that you should be allowed to do it.
Navy Seal training. Caveat: You're not allowed to breathe while doing your "waiting". :P (gogo free dive training!)
Seriously though, I agree. This was something I struggled with during my late teens - how do I know when I stop being a boy and start being a man? Modern society has no real thresholds to cross (barring the aforementioned booze, graduation and drivers' license). I know guys who are in their 40s who I'd class as boys, and guys who are 18 and are supporting wives and kids (which qualifies them as men in my book).
Personally I think it occurs the first time you really stand up to your parents, and tell them "no, I am doing this my way, it is my decision now, not yours". It's definitely to do with accepting personal responsibility, anyway.
Incidentally, this is what finally killed Cub Scouts for me - when I realised that the "sixers" and "seconds" were chosen not based on merit but on seniority. I got to 'second' and quit.
There is a rational number x that sufficiently approximates Pi such that if all engineering computations throughout history used x instead of pi they would still be sufficiently precise."
This is true enough - IIRC a couple of hundred decimal places of Pi is sufficient to calculate the circumference of the solar system from its radius to a resolution of a few atoms. Yeah, fair call.
I'm sorry, I have a three year old and neither she nor her friends is capable of determining when it is and isn't okay to hit. You are probably right that she could tell the difference if I were punishing rather than hurting her, but she sure wouldn't be able to meter out her own "punishment" on other kids.
Exactly. She knows the difference between you spanking her when she's bad, and you laying into her and hurting her. She should know full well that it's not her place to punish other kids at all - she's a kid, not an adult. Punishing kids for breaking rules is one of the things adults do.
[...]two very strong statistical correlations with spanking. [...] Parents who hit their kids are much more likely to abuse their kids...
Again, parents *hitting* kids is strongly correlated with child abuse. It *is* child abuse. Parents spanking kids for bad behavior is different, as you agree your daughter could tell you. You say yourself that you wouldn't spank because you might one day hit them instead - I agree that one can lead to the other but that's an issue of parental self control.
By your choice of language, we agree on the distinction between spanking (mild physical sensation accompanying verbal disciplining, reserved for "I really mean it" moments) and hitting (actual violence against the child).
Yes, YES to the kid. I know, from personal experience. Then again I was the kind of kid you could reason with, even at 3... My mum would smack me if I was bad (for instance, if I swore). It was a tiny pat on the backside, administered with a great show of disapproval, that did nothing to me physically but by god did I know mum was not happy with me. On the other hand, dad occasionally had anger management issues and a couple of times thumped us kids. Still on the backside, looked like a smack apart from the fact that we'd be dangling by one arm at that point, but if you're telling me that we didn't know the difference, I'd like what you're smoking.
So any time anyone says "smacking promotes violence in kids, because they can't tell the difference between smacking and hitting", well, in my case they were wrong. There's a few things in my childhood that if I'd been there now as an observer, I'd have thumped my dad *hard* upside the head for. There's nothing like that concerning my mum.
A CR would only interact with a few cells not enough to be called a flash.
I bet you tell the kids that there's not really molten lava in their baking soda volcano too. :(
:D
But I forgive you because Cerenkov radiation is way, WAY cooler than just stupid gamma rays.
Something to think about:
No, there isn't.
That's because the English language contains a great deal of redundancy, so if you scmbrale letters or accidentally a word it still makes sense.
Not only silicon... NASA astronauts consistently observe bright flashes in orbit, whether their eyes are open or closed. It is believed that these flashes are the result of cosmic rays interacting with the astronauts' retinas.
True that money isn't everything, but if I could move stuff around with my mind, or read the details off an envelope that's inside a safe, I wouldn't feel like a freak, I'd just feel FREAKIN' AWESOME! And I'd want to know how I did what I did, and how to teach other people to do it (if possible), and whether there was anything else I could do that I hadn't discovered yet. I'd want to know what my abilities meant for conventional science, and what new engineering techniques they would lead to. Hiding away a gift that could fundamentally change our understanding of the world would be a crime against humanity.
In my experience, people who claim paranormal powers generally do so because they want to feel special, and so they see attempts to verify their 'powers' as personal attacks, knowing they'll only be discredited.
There's a world of difference between a smack and a hit.
I've seen the first couple of episodes, and while it was extremely random and somewhat unpretty, the bit where the girl says "nuuuuu" and rubs the main male character's hand on her tit has become somewhat of a recurring meme for my wife and I... so it's not all bad. :)
In short, if you want to know, go look; nobody is going to go to the trouble of providing anything for you if you can't be bothered to invest the energy to put in the requisite work through exploring. If you don't want to know, then carry on as you are.
I'm one of those people who really, really wants magic to be real. Sadly, I'm not an idiot, and so I can't just wish upon a star and then tell myself it worked - I have to actually try and test it. Every single time I've found something that looks like it *might* be working, any remotely rigorous testing shows it's just imagination and confirmation bias.
Hell, at one stage my Dad was insisting he could feel peoples' auras by waving his hands around. This went on for months until I finally stood in front of him, made him close his eyes, and then told him to show me exactly where my aura was, by feel. He'd pretty confidently found it by a minute later, by which time I was on the other side of the room.
If anyone could do anything remotely genuine in the paranormal sense then solving a trivial problem like "read what's in the envelope in my pocket" would net them an easy million. I can't see a single non-bullshit reason not to claim such a prize... if you genuinely can.
Nothing wrong with 1280x1024 @ 17". I've been using that resolution and screen size (well two of 'em but yeah) for the past 3-4 years, 10-12 hours a day with no problems.
I have to say I love my new 24" LCD though... makes me sad that I paid $600 each for two 17" a few years back (still going strong, my wife uses 'em now) and it was $300-odd for a 24" 1920x1080 screen...
You sure 'bout dat?
I don't see why simply providing a gateway test between different stages of life necessarily implies only two stages of life. I could see a series of tests like this working. A child is considered a child until they pass their 'teen rites', at which time they become an adolescent and are accorded more respect and responsibility. Sort of like being a journeyman adult. When they feel ready (usually around 16, 17ish) they attempt another rite of passage which qualifies them as a full adult.
:P
This is often suggested as something which would help teens find their place in the world, and probably reduce the number of irresponsible manchild types around. The closest we get in our modern society is turning 18, at which point they hand you a bottle of vodka and your car keys... not what I'd call a good message.