He was making a 'joke', or humerous implication that as a Linux user, rebooting is both an extremely rare occurrence, and something inconvenient enough to avoid (which it generally is, if you have the option to avoid it).
Dude, SLI desktop systems can easily require a 750W power supply already. I can't see it being that hard for a beefed up system to use an extra 30%. RAM on its own isn't that power-hungry anyway, compared to CPUs.
To be fair, it looks more like a "hey we made this for fun" thing than a serious attempt at making a practical ultrabright array.
That said, LEDs are pretty robust, and tend to fail open circuit rather than closed circuit so if individual LEDs blow in a series chain, they don't destroy others with them. A few years back I did a lot of work with similar arrays to provide controlled lighting for machine vision - you can overdrive them by ridiculous amounts as long as it's only for a very short time (although they do 'wear out' faster with this treatment). We had no troubles passing over 10 times the rated current through standard 'ultrabright' LEDs for up to 10-20 milliseconds.
The same could be applied to Windows users. In general, by their purchase, they've proven that they're willing to spend small amounts of cash to make themselves feel like they're different or better than Linux users.
In my experience it tends to be the other way around; historically Linux users have spent more time to make themselves feel better or different than Mac *and* Windows users. This is changing fast, though - I run Linux at home simply because it's cheaper and easier than Windows.
The same can be said about OS X vs Windows. Whether that functionality matters to you is a different matter -- like I said, I use Gimp -- but to pretend that Windows (or even Linux) is always just as good as OS X is just as ignorant as claiming that Gimp is always just as good as Photoshop.
Agreed. By the same token, though, you can't claim that OS X is 'always just as good' as either Linux or Windows. Different tools for different jobs. And more to the point - most Apple users (and I use the term 'most' in the sense of 'all but one of the Apple users that I know') don't need Photoshop, or even MS Paint. They buy Macs purely because they're so desperate to differentiate themselves that they'll spend any amount (the more the better, making Macs an example of a Veblen good).
I suspect that's why you're at home coding, rather than at work coding.
Communication is at least as important, even as necessary, as "actually coding", for anything beyond a one-man project.
Actually, I'm at work trolling/., because it's more fun than the busywork I have left for this week. If real, useful communication that's what actually ends up taking place at these conferences (rather than just a lot of grant-money-funded boozing, as happened at the only one I attended) then that's awesome. But unless this was literally a 'team meeting' for all the contributors, I can't see it being quite that important. And I still maintain that people who spend more on their computers as a form of conspicuous consumption are more likely to spend more on attending conferences (and again this isn't all Apple users, just the annoying ones).
[...] Then I got into the real world.
HTML/CSS has a few messy implementations, but it's a fine technology in its own right. Javascript is an excellent language. And communication is as important as code -- indeed, I would cite communication skills above coding skills on my resume.
I went through a similar learning curve when I left university - it was a shock to realise that not only was my boss telling me that it doesn't MATTER how batfuck ugly the code is, if it does what the customer wants and the customer is happy, then that's fine... but that he was right. Aesthetics and clean implementation are for us, the engineers, not something that matters a jot for the end user as long as it fills their needs. The communication you're espousing is the only way to actually achieve that.
Now, frankly, you are just a troll, and probably not worth all that effort. But I see a bit of myself in you. Maybe you'll learn something today. Maybe someone else will.
Well, hopefully my reply justifies your effort somewhat. All my (admittedly somewhat trollish) post was aiming at was that people who buy Macs to try and make themselves feel special are the same kind of people that would go to a conference for the same reason, so their presence at a conference doesn't automatically imply tech savviness.
Heh. Well, the worst thing you could do in an office with co-workers around... (although that would be "never ever shut it down properly, just hold the power button down until it does a hard shutdown, preferably while thrashing the disk" like my old boss used to do, grr).
But yes, failure modes of electronics (as I understand it) are:
Moving bits (fans and non-solid-state drives, bearings wear out)
Dust (reduces heatsink effectiveness)
Electro caps (the electrolyte tends to evaporate especially if it runs hot)
If none of those kill it; physical stresses from thermal cycling (this would probably take millennia to actually kill something)
I'd say that the strongest arguments for keeping systems permanently running is response time, but even then that's only in the case where demand spikes very sharply and unpredictably - I can't see why a system couldn't boot acceptably fast off a SSD. Probably the _real_ reason that most systems are kept running continually is laziness.
Bite my troll, BITE it, damn you!...awww, ok you win.:P I tend to have a bit of a cynical view towards conferences but that may be because I've only attended academic, rather than business, ones. There's a lot more posturing and useless hot air at the academic ones than I'd expect at a commercial con.
If we're talking about THAT Troy, let's not forget it was a GREEK frikkin' horse, which they GAVE to the Trojans, who were great at fighting but really not that smart. So by rights, Trojan should refer to the dumb punks who installed their torrented Photoshop, not to the 'Greek' that was hiding inside it. Beware of geeks bearing warez, I guess.
By your argument, Vista is more secure because it's such a PITA installing things on it.;) But yeah, social engineering is generally the easiest vector of attack these days, since humans are by far the weakest link in any secure system.
That's one reason I love the new Die Hard movie - other movies have the whiz kid "hack the network" using a subnotebook running Movie OS with a big "hack it NAOW" button. In this one he triggers the car's emergency phone and bullshits the lady who answers into remotely starting the car... a perfect example of how you WOULD do it.
"If you download ANY software off the internet and install it on your computer you run the risk of installing along with it carefully crafted malware that your security software or whatever other precautions you are taking may not be able to protect you against."
Meme'd that for ya. Any software that comes from an untrusted source (ie. someone you can't readily sue for ridiculous punitive damages) can potentially bork your computer.
It's a simple numbers game. Assume that Mac users are as smart as Windows users, so that X% of either are stupid enough to install a trojan. Call it 10% for easy mental 'rithmetic. If 88% of the market is Windows-based and 9% is Mac-based, then you get a potential maximum of 8.8% of the market in your bot net if you target Windows, and a potential maximum of 0.9% of the market if you target MacOS. It's not even worth the bother of targeting both until you get more in the ratio of 2 : 1 infectable systems.
Oooh, someone's getting sandy! On the way to the Apple Store for iAntiVirus, are we?:P
As for numbers at a conference, Apple users have already proved (in general, by their purchase) that they're willing to spend large amounts of cash to make themselves feel like they're different or special. I'd say that puts them high up the list of people who'd pay to go to a conference (rather than just staying at home, you know, actually coding).
They take something you know (password) and something everyone has (a code, SMS'd to your mobile phone).
Um, they don't SMS the same code to everyone, you know?
Commonwealth Bank does something similar. They have your mobile number, and when you want to do key actions on NetBank they generate a random number and send it to you via SMS, then you then have to enter it into the web site within a couple of minutes. It just means that even if someone gets hold of your online banking user/pass, they also have to physically steal your phone in order to clean you out. It's not infallible but it's definitely better than nothing (or just a plain user/pass).
I always knew that a silent night sounded like a non-stop symphony of cicadas, but I thought everyone heard that.
They don't?
Seriously, when I was about 2 I told my mum that that noise was "the stars twinkling". She thought I meant crickets, but this noise is different, similar to the high pitched noise you sometimes get out of CRTs, but less constant.
Interestingly, the only time I remember it ever stopping completely was once during a power failure. It's not too irritating but it's definitely there if I focus on it.
Maybe that the feed that's used could be fed to humans instead? And that it has to be gathered and processed instead of just letting the cows wander around and eat grass (which we *can't* eat)? It depends on what factor you're trying to optimise; feed lots are far more efficient uses of land, whereas farms are more efficient uses of energy.
This reminds me of a hydroponics store I used to drive past on the way to work. Their storefront all but announced "Everything you need to grow... tomatoes... in your roof space!"
Interface-wise, Windows is STILL playing catchup to where the Macintosh was 12 years ago.
Not this tired old line again. Here, I'll give you the Windows equivalent: There's no business software available for Macs, the only games are Photoshop and "make SimpleTalk swear at your boss", and the stupid cooperative multitasking OS crashes at the drop of a hat taking everything down with it. Plus you only have one mouse button so you must be retarded.
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And that means rebooting.
Erm? Why is a reboot a problem?
He was making a 'joke', or humerous implication that as a Linux user, rebooting is both an extremely rare occurrence, and something inconvenient enough to avoid (which it generally is, if you have the option to avoid it).
Outsourcing is all the rage these days, I hear.
So the massively parallel touting of this new buzzword should best be described as a 'cloudfuck'?
Dude, SLI desktop systems can easily require a 750W power supply already. I can't see it being that hard for a beefed up system to use an extra 30%. RAM on its own isn't that power-hungry anyway, compared to CPUs.
Buzzlewolf cloister. I think. And something about running Listix.
But no, just like every other friggin product that uses more than one CPU, it is now a 'cloud'.
To be fair, it looks more like a "hey we made this for fun" thing than a serious attempt at making a practical ultrabright array.
That said, LEDs are pretty robust, and tend to fail open circuit rather than closed circuit so if individual LEDs blow in a series chain, they don't destroy others with them. A few years back I did a lot of work with similar arrays to provide controlled lighting for machine vision - you can overdrive them by ridiculous amounts as long as it's only for a very short time (although they do 'wear out' faster with this treatment). We had no troubles passing over 10 times the rated current through standard 'ultrabright' LEDs for up to 10-20 milliseconds.
There you go again with your reasonableness, damn you!
Still, good work on the +2, Troll. I wanna see it go to +5!
The same could be applied to Windows users. In general, by their purchase, they've proven that they're willing to spend small amounts of cash to make themselves feel like they're different or better than Linux users.
In my experience it tends to be the other way around; historically Linux users have spent more time to make themselves feel better or different than Mac *and* Windows users. This is changing fast, though - I run Linux at home simply because it's cheaper and easier than Windows.
The same can be said about OS X vs Windows. Whether that functionality matters to you is a different matter -- like I said, I use Gimp -- but to pretend that Windows (or even Linux) is always just as good as OS X is just as ignorant as claiming that Gimp is always just as good as Photoshop.
Agreed. By the same token, though, you can't claim that OS X is 'always just as good' as either Linux or Windows. Different tools for different jobs. And more to the point - most Apple users (and I use the term 'most' in the sense of 'all but one of the Apple users that I know') don't need Photoshop, or even MS Paint. They buy Macs purely because they're so desperate to differentiate themselves that they'll spend any amount (the more the better, making Macs an example of a Veblen good).
I suspect that's why you're at home coding, rather than at work coding.
Communication is at least as important, even as necessary, as "actually coding", for anything beyond a one-man project.
Actually, I'm at work trolling /., because it's more fun than the busywork I have left for this week. If real, useful communication that's what actually ends up taking place at these conferences (rather than just a lot of grant-money-funded boozing, as happened at the only one I attended) then that's awesome. But unless this was literally a 'team meeting' for all the contributors, I can't see it being quite that important. And I still maintain that people who spend more on their computers as a form of conspicuous consumption are more likely to spend more on attending conferences (and again this isn't all Apple users, just the annoying ones).
[...] Then I got into the real world.
HTML/CSS has a few messy implementations, but it's a fine technology in its own right. Javascript is an excellent language. And communication is as important as code -- indeed, I would cite communication skills above coding skills on my resume.
I went through a similar learning curve when I left university - it was a shock to realise that not only was my boss telling me that it doesn't MATTER how batfuck ugly the code is, if it does what the customer wants and the customer is happy, then that's fine... but that he was right. Aesthetics and clean implementation are for us, the engineers, not something that matters a jot for the end user as long as it fills their needs. The communication you're espousing is the only way to actually achieve that.
Now, frankly, you are just a troll, and probably not worth all that effort. But I see a bit of myself in you. Maybe you'll learn something today. Maybe someone else will.
Well, hopefully my reply justifies your effort somewhat. All my (admittedly somewhat trollish) post was aiming at was that people who buy Macs to try and make themselves feel special are the same kind of people that would go to a conference for the same reason, so their presence at a conference doesn't automatically imply tech savviness.
But yes, failure modes of electronics (as I understand it) are:
I'd say that the strongest arguments for keeping systems permanently running is response time, but even then that's only in the case where demand spikes very sharply and unpredictably - I can't see why a system couldn't boot acceptably fast off a SSD. Probably the _real_ reason that most systems are kept running continually is laziness.
eh's a pretty cool guy.
Bite my troll, BITE it, damn you! ...awww, ok you win. :P I tend to have a bit of a cynical view towards conferences but that may be because I've only attended academic, rather than business, ones. There's a lot more posturing and useless hot air at the academic ones than I'd expect at a commercial con.
If we're talking about THAT Troy, let's not forget it was a GREEK frikkin' horse, which they GAVE to the Trojans, who were great at fighting but really not that smart. So by rights, Trojan should refer to the dumb punks who installed their torrented Photoshop, not to the 'Greek' that was hiding inside it. Beware of geeks bearing warez, I guess.
By your argument, Vista is more secure because it's such a PITA installing things on it. ;) But yeah, social engineering is generally the easiest vector of attack these days, since humans are by far the weakest link in any secure system.
That's one reason I love the new Die Hard movie - other movies have the whiz kid "hack the network" using a subnotebook running Movie OS with a big "hack it NAOW" button. In this one he triggers the car's emergency phone and bullshits the lady who answers into remotely starting the car... a perfect example of how you WOULD do it.
"If you download ANY software off the internet and install it on your computer you run the risk of installing along with it carefully crafted malware that your security software or whatever other precautions you are taking may not be able to protect you against."
Meme'd that for ya. Any software that comes from an untrusted source (ie. someone you can't readily sue for ridiculous punitive damages) can potentially bork your computer.
It's a simple numbers game. Assume that Mac users are as smart as Windows users, so that X% of either are stupid enough to install a trojan. Call it 10% for easy mental 'rithmetic. If 88% of the market is Windows-based and 9% is Mac-based, then you get a potential maximum of 8.8% of the market in your bot net if you target Windows, and a potential maximum of 0.9% of the market if you target MacOS. It's not even worth the bother of targeting both until you get more in the ratio of 2 : 1 infectable systems.
Nar, the bacon's really just the delicious pilot light. The oxygen itself does all the work.
"anyone who trades X for security deserves neither, and shall lose both".
You're talking about the X Window System here, right?
You're a troll because you said that 1 = 1. GTFO Mac hater! Stop trolling with your "logic" and your "reasonableness".
Oooh, someone's getting sandy! On the way to the Apple Store for iAntiVirus, are we? :P
As for numbers at a conference, Apple users have already proved (in general, by their purchase) that they're willing to spend large amounts of cash to make themselves feel like they're different or special. I'd say that puts them high up the list of people who'd pay to go to a conference (rather than just staying at home, you know, actually coding).
They take something you know (password) and something everyone has (a code, SMS'd to your mobile phone).
Um, they don't SMS the same code to everyone, you know?
Commonwealth Bank does something similar. They have your mobile number, and when you want to do key actions on NetBank they generate a random number and send it to you via SMS, then you then have to enter it into the web site within a couple of minutes. It just means that even if someone gets hold of your online banking user/pass, they also have to physically steal your phone in order to clean you out. It's not infallible but it's definitely better than nothing (or just a plain user/pass).
I always knew that a silent night sounded like a non-stop symphony of cicadas, but I thought everyone heard that.
They don't?
Seriously, when I was about 2 I told my mum that that noise was "the stars twinkling". She thought I meant crickets, but this noise is different, similar to the high pitched noise you sometimes get out of CRTs, but less constant.
Interestingly, the only time I remember it ever stopping completely was once during a power failure. It's not too irritating but it's definitely there if I focus on it.
Maybe that the feed that's used could be fed to humans instead? And that it has to be gathered and processed instead of just letting the cows wander around and eat grass (which we *can't* eat)? It depends on what factor you're trying to optimise; feed lots are far more efficient uses of land, whereas farms are more efficient uses of energy.
Have YOU ever seen a baby robot? Thought not.
This reminds me of a hydroponics store I used to drive past on the way to work. Their storefront all but announced "Everything you need to grow... tomatoes... in your roof space!"
Interface-wise, Windows is STILL playing catchup to where the Macintosh was 12 years ago.
Not this tired old line again. Here, I'll give you the Windows equivalent: There's no business software available for Macs, the only games are Photoshop and "make SimpleTalk swear at your boss", and the stupid cooperative multitasking OS crashes at the drop of a hat taking everything down with it. Plus you only have one mouse button so you must be retarded.
See how lame that was? Yours was worse.