"Repeatedly, you fail to understand when someone is using a gross analogy to illustrate a point."
Analogies are both inaccurate and petty. They are tools for people too stupid to lucidly illustrate what they mean in plain language.
"You are taking people's words far too literally"
I take them for what they TYPE. Nothing more, nothing less. They're free to clarify their thoughts, but seeing as how they generally rely on analogy, they're most likely too stupid to do so.
"You so completely miss the point of the post you are responding to in every post you make"
No I get the points, I just reject them and the baseless reasons they are founded on. It's not your fault you're not bright enough to tell the difference.
"I gotta wonder if you even want to understand what other people are trying to say."
Let me try then. In your post here, you're saying you're stupid and have nothing of any value to contribute whatsoever. How'd I do?
"They're not my traditions, but I still have to live on the same planet, and it still affects me when whales end up extinct."
Except these hunts don't effect the population at all, and the population has been steadily increasing. How stupid does your point look now.
"How about traditions that involve female circumcision, or marrying 13 year-old to 40 year olds, heck, how about if it's a tradition in my family for the man of the house to beat our wife when they get out of line?"
How fucking stupid are you that you compare hunting a whale to beating a wife, or mutilating a child? How moronic are you that this comparison makes sense in your little pea brain?
Stop posting until you're less stupid and can come up with a better argument than "BLAAAH!! I don't want whales to be extinct!!! BLAAHHH!! EVEN THOUGH THEIR POPULATION IS INCREASING!!""
"That's what the *doctor* is for, you idiot. If the *doctor* said, Hey! This looks urgent! you wouldn't be getting in line, you'd be getting in a hospital gown."
No imbecile, that's what the TEST is for. If it LOOKS urgent, you test to make sure. If it DOESN'T look urgent, you test to make sure.
Stop posting AC to defend something stupid you said.
"When I had health insurance, one doctor prescribed me a name brand antibiotic and made me refill it twice. It was considered "not approved" by my insurance company leaving me a $35 copay on each fill. He could have given me enough pills on the first fill to treat the illness so I would only have one $35 copay... or he could have prescribed me an equally effective generic that would have cost me $15 without insurance."
So, it's your doctor's fault that you failed to tell him you insisted on a generic?
They work for YOU. Stop blaming them for your failure to address what you wanted from them.
You chastised that other guy for making a comparison between two things that are dissimilar. YOU DID EXACTLY THE SAME THING. Save the ridiculous attempt at justifying why your two different things are valid to compare while his aren't.
"The first argument"
Where did I even address this? YOU are the one stuck on that. Get it in your head, I'm after you because you did something then attacked someone else for doing it. You are a hypocrite. WHY you are a hypocrite doesn't matter one whit. WHy you think your comparison is valid doesn't matter either.
What matters is YOU did something then told someone else not to do EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID.
So when you reply, stop telling me why you think your "first argument" matters and admit you're a hypocrite. I honestly don't give a fuck about anything you're going to say apart from that admission.
"The comparison isn't dependent on a whale being equivalent to a person"
Really? REALLY? Then why did you say
"There, I suggest that you engage in repeated games of 'one of these things is not like the other'"
Whales are not like humans. If you meant something else, you should have said it, instead of trying to twist your previous stupid statement into a new statement (which is also stupid, but I'll leave it).
YOU said it. Now you're trying to pretend what YOU said wasn't really what you said, but was something else entirely.
No, sorry, just own up and stop making ridiculous excuses. You sound like a politician after he gets caught with a hooker.
Um, because a person isn't a whale, any more than a whale is a tree.
Honestly, why bother defending an obviously indefensible comment? You said something stupid and now you're trying to pretend whaling is equivalent to burning people.
But it's not. And you know it.
By the way, you never once posted anything proving they're the same, you just insisted it was so. Saying something is true is not the same as something actually being true. I see now that you have a problem with drawing correct comparisons.
"So let's let them use a machine gun. Or maybe a cannon? How about a fucking RPG. After all, it's the hunt that's important, right?"
Yes, I'm glad you see it now.
"Sorry, but a large part of tradition is the methodologies used." To YOU but not to everyone. Reread that until you get it.
"If there's a tradition that involves a long trek through the woods in order to learn self-survival skills and commune with nature, then packing a dozen rifles on an ATV doesn't fall with tradition."
To YOU but not to everyone. Do you see now why ethnocentrism and bigotry like that you're displaying are bad?
"If they want to keep with traditional events or ceremonies, use traditional equipment."
Except they're not your traditions, so why the fuck do you think you have any say in it whatsoever? Oh, because of what you demonstrated in your post already.
You posted a 10 year old paper with no real credibility. Why do you keep acting like you found the fucking rosetta stone.
Do yourself a favor, in the future before you post and say something amazingly stupid again, find out what it takes to make a paper credible. Because as it stands now, you have no fucking clue.
"Perhaps you'd like to tell us what part of using a sophisticated modern projectile weapon is traditional?"
The part where they use it to HUNT WHALES.
"Rather than using traditional means and rituals"
Just exactly who the fuck are you to decide how they observe their traditions? What on earth makes you think the tradition has anything at all to do with what weapons are used?
Your entire post displays a gross misunderstanding of what the important parts of the traditions are.
"If you look back up the thread, you'll find the actual comment I referenced:"
No, I won't because it doesn't exist. No one ever said the current situation is "amazingly fair" but you claimed they did. Back it up or shut you lying fucking mouth.
"You have no idea where I live or what the farmers here do, yet are willing to claim you know more about them than I. For the record, you are exactly wrong."
First, you've lied several times already. You're lying now. Second, I know what FARMERS do, so save that retarded "you don;t know me" shit for someone who isn't me. I know WAY more about farms, farmers and farming than you ever will.
Back you lie up or admit you can't. Stop calling others trolls for making it clear that you're a liar.
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Yeah, you hate that I'm right and you have no argument.
I'll stop posting my correct assessment if you stop breathing. Deal?
"Repeatedly, you fail to understand when someone is using a gross analogy to illustrate a point."
Analogies are both inaccurate and petty. They are tools for people too stupid to lucidly illustrate what they mean in plain language.
"You are taking people's words far too literally"
I take them for what they TYPE. Nothing more, nothing less. They're free to clarify their thoughts, but seeing as how they generally rely on analogy, they're most likely too stupid to do so.
"You so completely miss the point of the post you are responding to in every post you make"
No I get the points, I just reject them and the baseless reasons they are founded on. It's not your fault you're not bright enough to tell the difference.
"I gotta wonder if you even want to understand what other people are trying to say."
Let me try then. In your post here, you're saying you're stupid and have nothing of any value to contribute whatsoever. How'd I do?
"They're not my traditions, but I still have to live on the same planet, and it still affects me when whales end up extinct."
Except these hunts don't effect the population at all, and the population has been steadily increasing. How stupid does your point look now.
"How about traditions that involve female circumcision, or marrying 13 year-old to 40 year olds, heck, how about if it's a tradition in my family for the man of the house to beat our wife when they get out of line?"
How fucking stupid are you that you compare hunting a whale to beating a wife, or mutilating a child? How moronic are you that this comparison makes sense in your little pea brain?
Stop posting until you're less stupid and can come up with a better argument than "BLAAAH!! I don't want whales to be extinct!!! BLAAHHH!! EVEN THOUGH THEIR POPULATION IS INCREASING!!""
God you're fucking stupid.
"That's what the *doctor* is for, you idiot. If the *doctor* said, Hey! This looks urgent! you wouldn't be getting in line, you'd be getting in a hospital gown."
No imbecile, that's what the TEST is for. If it LOOKS urgent, you test to make sure. If it DOESN'T look urgent, you test to make sure.
Stop posting AC to defend something stupid you said.
"When I had health insurance, one doctor prescribed me a name brand antibiotic and made me refill it twice. It was considered "not approved" by my insurance company leaving me a $35 copay on each fill. He could have given me enough pills on the first fill to treat the illness so I would only have one $35 copay... or he could have prescribed me an equally effective generic that would have cost me $15 without insurance."
So, it's your doctor's fault that you failed to tell him you insisted on a generic?
They work for YOU. Stop blaming them for your failure to address what you wanted from them.
"Actually, tacos are quite good as well."
This is the most lucid, intelligent post I've seen from you.
Kill yourself now.
And how do you know whether it's urgent without doing the tests?
God you people are fucking stupid.
You chastised that other guy for making a comparison between two things that are dissimilar. YOU DID EXACTLY THE SAME THING. Save the ridiculous attempt at justifying why your two different things are valid to compare while his aren't.
"The first argument"
Where did I even address this? YOU are the one stuck on that. Get it in your head, I'm after you because you did something then attacked someone else for doing it. You are a hypocrite. WHY you are a hypocrite doesn't matter one whit. WHy you think your comparison is valid doesn't matter either.
What matters is YOU did something then told someone else not to do EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID.
So when you reply, stop telling me why you think your "first argument" matters and admit you're a hypocrite. I honestly don't give a fuck about anything you're going to say apart from that admission.
"I like to lie"
FYP
"The comparison isn't dependent on a whale being equivalent to a person"
Really? REALLY? Then why did you say
"There, I suggest that you engage in repeated games of 'one of these things is not like the other'"
Whales are not like humans. If you meant something else, you should have said it, instead of trying to twist your previous stupid statement into a new statement (which is also stupid, but I'll leave it).
YOU said it. Now you're trying to pretend what YOU said wasn't really what you said, but was something else entirely.
No, sorry, just own up and stop making ridiculous excuses. You sound like a politician after he gets caught with a hooker.
Um, because a person isn't a whale, any more than a whale is a tree.
Honestly, why bother defending an obviously indefensible comment? You said something stupid and now you're trying to pretend whaling is equivalent to burning people.
But it's not. And you know it.
By the way, you never once posted anything proving they're the same, you just insisted it was so. Saying something is true is not the same as something actually being true. I see now that you have a problem with drawing correct comparisons.
It's not. None of what you just said applies to anything I just said, so why reply?
"So let's let them use a machine gun. Or maybe a cannon? How about a fucking RPG. After all, it's the hunt that's important, right?"
Yes, I'm glad you see it now.
"Sorry, but a large part of tradition is the methodologies used." To YOU but not to everyone. Reread that until you get it.
"If there's a tradition that involves a long trek through the woods in order to learn self-survival skills and commune with nature, then packing a dozen rifles on an ATV doesn't fall with tradition."
To YOU but not to everyone. Do you see now why ethnocentrism and bigotry like that you're displaying are bad?
"If they want to keep with traditional events or ceremonies, use traditional equipment."
Except they're not your traditions, so why the fuck do you think you have any say in it whatsoever? Oh, because of what you demonstrated in your post already.
"I was never a slaver..."
The fact that you immediately compared whale hunting to slavery illustrates exactly why your opinion has no value.
"Killing whales is a sick waste of something that can't be replaced"
The hunts don't impact the continued recovery of the whale's population, which has steadily grown. OOPS!
I see now why you posted AC.
"You right"
That was all you had to say. Because this part
"I plan to keep this culture alive by robbing banks at gun point and humming tunes."
Is the kind of stupid shit you get from people who know they're wrong.
You posted a 10 year old paper with no real credibility. Why do you keep acting like you found the fucking rosetta stone.
Do yourself a favor, in the future before you post and say something amazingly stupid again, find out what it takes to make a paper credible. Because as it stands now, you have no fucking clue.
And you're still wrong.
"Not whining"
And that's just a lie.
The tradition is the hunt itself. The mechanics of that hunt are irrelevant.
It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
"I suggest that you engage in repeated games of 'one of these things is not like the other'"
It's funny that you said this after you had already said this
"This whale was harvested by a group of people that are monitored by the IWC and practice whaling as part of their indigenous culture.
YOU: Europeans used to set people with warts on fire as part of their indigenous culture. And yet we frown on that today."
Will you be joining him in Kindergarten?
"Perhaps you'd like to tell us what part of using a sophisticated modern projectile weapon is traditional?"
The part where they use it to HUNT WHALES.
"Rather than using traditional means and rituals"
Just exactly who the fuck are you to decide how they observe their traditions? What on earth makes you think the tradition has anything at all to do with what weapons are used?
Your entire post displays a gross misunderstanding of what the important parts of the traditions are.
I was right. So call me juvenile, call me petty, YOU'RE THE LOSER WHO HAS TO LIE ON A WEB BOARD TO IMPROVE HIS SELF ESTEEM.
How fucking sad are you?
And you never addressed how GP owned your lying ass. Because YOU CAN'T.
Shut your lying mouth now.
"If you look back up the thread, you'll find the actual comment I referenced:"
No, I won't because it doesn't exist. No one ever said the current situation is "amazingly fair" but you claimed they did. Back it up or shut you lying fucking mouth.
"You have no idea where I live or what the farmers here do, yet are willing to claim you know more about them than I. For the record, you are exactly wrong."
First, you've lied several times already. You're lying now. Second, I know what FARMERS do, so save that retarded "you don;t know me" shit for someone who isn't me. I know WAY more about farms, farmers and farming than you ever will.
Back you lie up or admit you can't. Stop calling others trolls for making it clear that you're a liar.
"Then they dump the US dollar (our economy tanks. maybe china takes a hit but at this point it is a war)."
You really have no clue how all that works do you?
You didn't answer my question. In fact, you didn't come close to answering it. We both know why.
"My argument was with the post to which I originally replied."
Which would be mine. Which NOWHERE claimed ANYTHING about ANY kind of FAIRNESS in any SHAPE, FORM, or FASHION.
What you were really making an argument against was your invented strawmen.
If you plan to reply, quote EXACTLY where I said anything about "fair" or don't bother.