Can the DHS go after this guy? At least we know he was a deranged maniac interested in terrorizing random Americans - he's already more guilty than most of the people at Guantanamo, why not give him the same harsh treatment?
They can investigate the man who did the leak all they want, but why are they harassing his children? His children are not accused of any crime, but they took their laptops.
I guess they'll just have to buy new ones if they need them for school....of course, you can bet that all of their personal material will be gone through - if the FBI is going this far in harassing children, hey, why not log into a kid's MySpace account in search of "evidence".
Americans can talk about rights all they want, but it's incredibly silly how little rights people have if they're young. They essentially stole private property here - likely forcing these kids to restructure their lives to some extent, and almost definitely forcing these kids to seek out replacement units to use. Since they're just kids though, even the libertarian crowd here doesn't think to mention that their rights are being violated.
Won't someone please think of the children?
OK, so the way to solve bigotry is to kill off all minorities and act like assholes. Brilliant. I can't believe somebody actually modded you up for this tripe. Frankly, forget about it - a world like you seem to want isn't a world worth living in, and that sort of makes genocide a moot point.
I'd argue that eugenic abortion is just as bad as eugenics through gassing. Granted, the pain is far greater for grown adults than for fetuses (I'm not an anti-abortionist or anything like that), but we risk destroying valuable cultures and perspectives by destroying a population. Think about how many great ideas have been thought up by eccentrics or people who would be labeled as "neurologically disordered" today. It's beginning to look more and more like the same genes that cause hyper-intelligence and other desirable traits are also able to have negative consequences in other fields. If we were to try to "cure" autism, for example, the way some would like (through prenatal testing) we would likely wipe out the Bill Gates and Thomas Edison of the next generation and countless others who wouldn't fit the dramatic stereotype and would have a positive impact on society.
If humans were all of one appearance and one neurological makeup, we wouldn't have an array of tastes and ideas - we'd have robots that all think exactly the same way. How would that be a good thing?
The problem is that it's rarely about "curing downs", but often about aborting every fetus that comes up positive in a prenatal test. The false positives involved can have the same negative effects as eugenic abortion - you wipe out people with a valuable gene because everyone with the issue has that gene, even though another gene has to be present to cause the unwanted effect.
If conformity is good for the species, then you're right. I'd argue, though, that we NEED to have people who are different. Even if most people are more-or-less the same, it's the people with unusual abilities that shape our society. If every atypical genetic makeup could be wiped out at birth, we'd stagnate as a society within 50 years or so.
I'm not understanding your point here. Isn't the euthanasia thing a completely different issue?
Personally, I'm for this law because it'll make it harder for employers who find out that someone is autistic to fire an autistic person without cause. There's enough bigotry against autistic people out there already, and anything making it more difficult to unjustly fire somebody is a good idea in my book. Sure, people on the autism spectrum, like all people, have their limits, but as long as the neurological limits only come into play where they affect job performance, this shouldn't be an issue. People can still be practical about who to employ, but can't discriminate unfairly - what's wrong with that?
Also, we need a genetic test for genocidal maniacs....and if we believe what the media tells us, we can already start systematic abortion of autistic people because they're eccentric, and blacks because they're lazy, and Muslims because they're terrorists...after all, it's not like Action T4 could lead to some stereotypes turning into genocides. That's never happened before, and we all KNOW that that Jewish problem had to be solved. Besides, the final solution was such an efficient one.
This will be modded flame bait, but seriously, why is this type of behavior accepted in the civilized world today if the Nazis were supposedly "bad" for doing just this sort of thing?
The odd thing is that I started doing that sort of things many years ago, before we started hearing about people being jailed for completing the assignment. I was a paranoid little jerk who didn't trust any teachers - and got in trouble for it. At least writing nothing or "I won't write anything" didn't make the teacher this aggressive.
I had no idea that Don Imus posted here. Neurological disability covers a much wider field than you realize - many neurologically disabled people have made significant contributions to society. In fact, they're really not behind at all when it comes to having a positive influence on society. Unlike some people (such as yourself, apparently), they tend to tinker and come up with meaningful but unusual ideas instead of just seeking genocide for those different from them....and yes, when you suggest that people who are by and large, better than you, are "holding society back and cluttering the gene pool", you are encouraging genocide. I wonder if this counts as invoking Godwin's law - you sure deserve to lose by default.
I'll return your ridiculous remarks: I'm not so sure you need to be alive either.
I'm not sure how much you know about Imus, but his issues are more than just words. He has openly advocated violence towards minorities in the past. He and his wife have attempted to marginalize people with actual difficulties - they've engaged in heavy shouting matches to mislead people into believing that corporations are at fault for a variety of attributes that are simply the way people were born. They have also openly advocated genocide of the disabled and atypical - and again, they merely shouted at and ignored everyone who tried to correct them.
Don and Diedre Imus are terrible scum and bullies of the worst sort, but words aren't their only problem. These people have openly tried to promote violent and unethical behaviors....but this is America in 2007. Dismissing the handicapped as "ill because of irresponsible companies" and funding hate groups won't get your show canceled, but one high-profile comment referring to black girls improperly is seen as a disaster.
I was glad to see Imus go, but his wife is still using bigoted epithets to sell books and wares on plenty of other shows. This isn't about "psyches" - this is about people like the Imuses forcing some of us to fear for our lives. You don't have much time left to focus on learning when you have to waste hours on end trying to stop bullies like these from putting you in danger.
As far as cyber-bullying is concerned, though, schools would do better by asking that kids don't expose themselves online - teach responsible behavior, teach how to "block" somebody on popular services, discuss who you should give your e-mail address or screen names to, etc. Coddling isn't needed, but responsibility is needed, and a way to stop those trying to incite violence is definitely needed.
The Official FAQ for the announcement claims that they did this because "Our goal is to make advertising on the internet work better: better for users with less intrusive ads and better privacy protection, better for advertisers with greater accountability and effectiveness, and better for publishers with improved monetization and cleaner site integration."
In other words, they thought DoubleClick was intrusive, but they're too nice to say it.
This may have been part of a strategy to make sure that nobody else bought DoubleClick first. The last thing Google wants is for Microsoft to try to take over their most profitable field. Even if Google never touches DoubleClick's materials after this, they don't have to worry about someone else having that "advantage" over Google.
If teachers now are anywhere near as incompetent as they were when I went to school, they're still the best source of outright lies, insults, and propaganda out there.
I mean, c'mon, do I have to invoke Godwin's law here? Most "teachers" are barely competent in the subjects they're supposed to teach, and many of them were openly antagonistic when someone tried to correct them.
On a scale of Wikipedia to Hitler, teachers are awfully close to Hitler. You can't correct them, no matter how wrong they are. When they start going on tirades about the unrelated topic of their choice, there's nothing anyone can do.
Trust me, if I learned history from Wikipedia instead of from school teachers, I would have learned a few dates and not the names of a few sports teams.
Without intellectual property laws, is it even technically illegal to steal passwords in China?
I mean, the downsides are obvious, but I don't think that Chinese law is prepared for this sort of thing.
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Don't be a tease - this is the first I've heard of JB on the Streak 7 (and I love my Streak 7). Where is this sort of development happening?
Can the DHS go after this guy? At least we know he was a deranged maniac interested in terrorizing random Americans - he's already more guilty than most of the people at Guantanamo, why not give him the same harsh treatment?
They can investigate the man who did the leak all they want, but why are they harassing his children? His children are not accused of any crime, but they took their laptops. I guess they'll just have to buy new ones if they need them for school. ...of course, you can bet that all of their personal material will be gone through - if the FBI is going this far in harassing children, hey, why not log into a kid's MySpace account in search of "evidence".
Americans can talk about rights all they want, but it's incredibly silly how little rights people have if they're young. They essentially stole private property here - likely forcing these kids to restructure their lives to some extent, and almost definitely forcing these kids to seek out replacement units to use. Since they're just kids though, even the libertarian crowd here doesn't think to mention that their rights are being violated.
Won't someone please think of the children?
OK, so the way to solve bigotry is to kill off all minorities and act like assholes. Brilliant. I can't believe somebody actually modded you up for this tripe. Frankly, forget about it - a world like you seem to want isn't a world worth living in, and that sort of makes genocide a moot point.
I'd argue that eugenic abortion is just as bad as eugenics through gassing. Granted, the pain is far greater for grown adults than for fetuses (I'm not an anti-abortionist or anything like that), but we risk destroying valuable cultures and perspectives by destroying a population. Think about how many great ideas have been thought up by eccentrics or people who would be labeled as "neurologically disordered" today. It's beginning to look more and more like the same genes that cause hyper-intelligence and other desirable traits are also able to have negative consequences in other fields. If we were to try to "cure" autism, for example, the way some would like (through prenatal testing) we would likely wipe out the Bill Gates and Thomas Edison of the next generation and countless others who wouldn't fit the dramatic stereotype and would have a positive impact on society. If humans were all of one appearance and one neurological makeup, we wouldn't have an array of tastes and ideas - we'd have robots that all think exactly the same way. How would that be a good thing? The problem is that it's rarely about "curing downs", but often about aborting every fetus that comes up positive in a prenatal test. The false positives involved can have the same negative effects as eugenic abortion - you wipe out people with a valuable gene because everyone with the issue has that gene, even though another gene has to be present to cause the unwanted effect. If conformity is good for the species, then you're right. I'd argue, though, that we NEED to have people who are different. Even if most people are more-or-less the same, it's the people with unusual abilities that shape our society. If every atypical genetic makeup could be wiped out at birth, we'd stagnate as a society within 50 years or so.
Commie bastards that hate business and freedom!
I'm not understanding your point here. Isn't the euthanasia thing a completely different issue? Personally, I'm for this law because it'll make it harder for employers who find out that someone is autistic to fire an autistic person without cause. There's enough bigotry against autistic people out there already, and anything making it more difficult to unjustly fire somebody is a good idea in my book. Sure, people on the autism spectrum, like all people, have their limits, but as long as the neurological limits only come into play where they affect job performance, this shouldn't be an issue. People can still be practical about who to employ, but can't discriminate unfairly - what's wrong with that?
Also, we need a genetic test for genocidal maniacs. ...and if we believe what the media tells us, we can already start systematic abortion of autistic people because they're eccentric, and blacks because they're lazy, and Muslims because they're terrorists...after all, it's not like Action T4 could lead to some stereotypes turning into genocides. That's never happened before, and we all KNOW that that Jewish problem had to be solved. Besides, the final solution was such an efficient one.
This will be modded flame bait, but seriously, why is this type of behavior accepted in the civilized world today if the Nazis were supposedly "bad" for doing just this sort of thing?
The odd thing is that I started doing that sort of things many years ago, before we started hearing about people being jailed for completing the assignment. I was a paranoid little jerk who didn't trust any teachers - and got in trouble for it. At least writing nothing or "I won't write anything" didn't make the teacher this aggressive.
I had no idea that Don Imus posted here. Neurological disability covers a much wider field than you realize - many neurologically disabled people have made significant contributions to society. In fact, they're really not behind at all when it comes to having a positive influence on society. Unlike some people (such as yourself, apparently), they tend to tinker and come up with meaningful but unusual ideas instead of just seeking genocide for those different from them. ...and yes, when you suggest that people who are by and large, better than you, are "holding society back and cluttering the gene pool", you are encouraging genocide. I wonder if this counts as invoking Godwin's law - you sure deserve to lose by default.
I'll return your ridiculous remarks: I'm not so sure you need to be alive either.
Why the heck weren't you modded +5 Insightful? That is exactly how most schools are run.
I'm not sure how much you know about Imus, but his issues are more than just words. He has openly advocated violence towards minorities in the past. He and his wife have attempted to marginalize people with actual difficulties - they've engaged in heavy shouting matches to mislead people into believing that corporations are at fault for a variety of attributes that are simply the way people were born. They have also openly advocated genocide of the disabled and atypical - and again, they merely shouted at and ignored everyone who tried to correct them. Don and Diedre Imus are terrible scum and bullies of the worst sort, but words aren't their only problem. These people have openly tried to promote violent and unethical behaviors. ...but this is America in 2007. Dismissing the handicapped as "ill because of irresponsible companies" and funding hate groups won't get your show canceled, but one high-profile comment referring to black girls improperly is seen as a disaster.
I was glad to see Imus go, but his wife is still using bigoted epithets to sell books and wares on plenty of other shows. This isn't about "psyches" - this is about people like the Imuses forcing some of us to fear for our lives. You don't have much time left to focus on learning when you have to waste hours on end trying to stop bullies like these from putting you in danger.
As far as cyber-bullying is concerned, though, schools would do better by asking that kids don't expose themselves online - teach responsible behavior, teach how to "block" somebody on popular services, discuss who you should give your e-mail address or screen names to, etc. Coddling isn't needed, but responsibility is needed, and a way to stop those trying to incite violence is definitely needed.
I thought we wanted them to "Do No Evil"?
The Official FAQ for the announcement claims that they did this because "Our goal is to make advertising on the internet work better: better for users with less intrusive ads and better privacy protection, better for advertisers with greater accountability and effectiveness, and better for publishers with improved monetization and cleaner site integration." In other words, they thought DoubleClick was intrusive, but they're too nice to say it.
Official Google Blog: Next Step In Google Advertising
This may have been part of a strategy to make sure that nobody else bought DoubleClick first. The last thing Google wants is for Microsoft to try to take over their most profitable field. Even if Google never touches DoubleClick's materials after this, they don't have to worry about someone else having that "advantage" over Google.
If teachers now are anywhere near as incompetent as they were when I went to school, they're still the best source of outright lies, insults, and propaganda out there. I mean, c'mon, do I have to invoke Godwin's law here? Most "teachers" are barely competent in the subjects they're supposed to teach, and many of them were openly antagonistic when someone tried to correct them. On a scale of Wikipedia to Hitler, teachers are awfully close to Hitler. You can't correct them, no matter how wrong they are. When they start going on tirades about the unrelated topic of their choice, there's nothing anyone can do. Trust me, if I learned history from Wikipedia instead of from school teachers, I would have learned a few dates and not the names of a few sports teams.
If ISPs were liable for the content they carried, would they bother carrying any content?
...or support will be dropped.
Just ask Superman - it's not easy being handicaped. That handy cape gets in the way sometimes!
There is honor among thieves!
You can't fool me! That's from Star Trek!
Without intellectual property laws, is it even technically illegal to steal passwords in China? I mean, the downsides are obvious, but I don't think that Chinese law is prepared for this sort of thing.