None of your points in the above post are rational.
I would be interested to know which of my points you find not rational. I challange you to prove me wrong about how a large percentage of the population does not care weather its moral or not to download copyrighted material or how that only a small percentage of violators will be sued.
I never said anything about lowering prices. Therefore you were the unrealistic one saying you could stop piracy by standing with a shotgun at the hypothetical copy machine.
I have no solution to stop piracy. Trying to show that piracy is immoral has been useless so far (do you think those posters in schools saying "downloading is wrong" really makes people think twice?)
Lawsuits will not make it stop either. The riaa doesn't have the manpower to sue each and every single downloader. The most people that would ever be sued will be less than 1%.
Lowering prices will not make it stop, adding more drm will not make it stop, nothing will make it stop.
It can be reduced but not stopped. Piracy is now a fact of life.
I live off of royalties from the comic books I write. I see you standing by the photocopy machine with my latest comicbook. Blam! One down. Then I go after your friends. I may need a back hoe instead of a shovel.
Now you're being unrealistic. Suppose the copy machine is in someone's basement.
Actually that is a bad thing to do because of something called a default judgement. If you don't defend yourself in a civil case, the plaintiff wil win. IANAL but I have first hand experience in the type of case that would happen if you just ignored the court.
A business contract was breached by an ex-affiliate of my company. We filed suit, defendant avoided being served but was eventually served. Sanctions issued to defendant (basicly a an order for him to pay) for serving fees and lawyer's billable time. You don't pay, you get a default judgement against you. Defendant failed to show up for oral deposition (kinda like a hearing), again sanctions issued against defendant for lawyer's fees. Defendant didn't pay, motion for final judgement submitted. This case has been going on for quite some time now, but the end result will be a win.
I'm surprised that so many people here post about having contact problems with paypal. Paypal's customer support number is pasted right on the contact page. I've called them about 10 times in the past year with various minor issues. Hold time was less than 5 minutes and my problem was resolved in less than another 5.
They would just randomly choose any 9-digit number. The security (or lack thereof) is in the linkage between the SSN and a person.
I'm sure people do that... there are many services online where you can just enter a social security number (and pay a fee) and it will search their databases.
They still need to know whom that SSN represents.
Having a SSN can ultimatly lead to finding who it represents.
Social Security numbers were originally designed for use with the social security system, and that was *it*. The social security system is set up where the working class have a portion of their pay given to the government's social security program. People who have worked all their life and retire will start collecting money from social security that was paid for by the working class.
The SSN was only intended to be the number you would use to identify yourself to the social security department where they could look up your info and validate that you are ready to recieve your money when you retire.
Now your SSN is your life for the most part. If somsone has your number, they dont even need to know anything else to screw you over. With the number they can do searches and find your name and current residance. With that info they can sign up for credit cards in your name and screw over your credit. They can basicly steal your identity just by knowing that one special number. If someone with bad intentions has your SSN, you are basicly fscked unless you have alot of money to pay lawyers to fix everything.
I downloaded the demo of opera 8. At first I loved it, fast page loads, low mem usage, you can move tabs around and reorginize them.
I started to think about dumping opera when I noticed: it didn't support image blocking, i couldnt find a way for flash not to auto play, it liked to crash alot (although it saved my active tabs which was nice), and most of all it would like to randomly chew up 30% cpu while it was doing what appeared to be nothing (slashdot and google tabs open, nothing more).
And then I did it, I dumped opera and happily went back to using firefox. Opera still has a long way to go (it's not just about render speed you know)
There is no contradiction actually. Again I say that a government providing a service to the people does not fall under the catagory of communism and I shall further explain it here.
Communism is a *system* of government. Capitalism is also a *system* of government. A government can modify certain practices and not affect the system. This holds true in this case in which our government is providing a service to the taxpayers using taxpayer money. Taxpayer money gets funneled through the US government and some of it eventually makes it's way to pay for NOAA. The capialism system still is in effect because the public (businesses included) have the option of providing a competing service at any or no cost. They have the option of providing a better service (eg: displaying a fancy html page with NOAA data rather than just XML).
These options that I spelled out that the public have are here mainly because of the capitalist system of government.
Communism is defined as a system in which a community has equal ownership of everything. How does this relate to a government giving out some "free" stuff?
From answers.com: An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market. ----
The idea of capitalism is the free market, people sell and buy things that are for the most part not under government control. The public controls the market via supply and demand, the market controls the prices, which in the end controls the businesses (kinda).
Communism is usually where the government owns and controls everything. A government providing a service to the people does not fall under the catagory of communism.
Use most any language these days and throw it the most complex logic you have ever seen, and it should do fine. Logic is not all that hard for a compiler/interpreter/computer to handle.
Do something that will take a significant amount of cpu time to execute, say sorting something. As a quick example take *any* sorting algorithm and run it using java, and then run it using c. This is where java's raw slowness pokes its ugly head.
About 5 years ago there was a story just like this on slashdot that was making all the commotion. The claim was three dimensional non-volatile memory and the capacity was 660gigs per cubic cm. So far I haven't heard anything since the slashdot story 5 years ago.
It would be nice to actually be able to buy this technology that always seems to be "about to come out". It would also be nice to be at a price comparable to current consumor storage devices.
For now we will still be stuck with the bottleneck of bottlenecks, the spinning harddrive based on technology that was thought up somewhere around the 1960s (or was it even the 50s?).
I was never a good student. I hated school up until college. During junior high I would not to assignments on a regular basis, I was a standard rebel. I graduated junior high with a 68 average.
High school came along and it was more of the same. I failed chemistry, two math classes, four english classes, I was a wreck. I didn't even plan on going to college because the plan was that I would take over my fathers computer business after high school. I Didn't take the PSAT, I didn't take the SAT, and it was my senior year.
I found out about some local colleges that didn't require SAT scores for admission. I looked at some local technical schools. I then found out about the SUNY technical school chain, which opened my eyes. I could go away to an upstate college that didn't require SATs or anything. (I managed to get accepted based on my resume and references, not my high school transcript)
My senior year I worked quite alot to try and get my grade up. My average up until then was 74. My average in my senior year was 98. Even though I failed seven classes and never went to summer school I still graduated on time and I had a reduced schedule in my last year as well. Somehow in my last year I had three classes, I was back home by 10am every day.
I graduated college with a 3.5. I don't attribute my success in college to anything I ever learned in high school. High school was a complete waste for me. I could have skipped high school completely and dropped out as a freshman, got a GED and went off to college and probably would still be doing what I'm doing right now (which is owning/running a highly successful business)
When I arrived at college, part of tuition covered a thinkpad which was given to myself and also many other students en masse. We had to take these 30 minute training classes in order to keep the lappys.
The first thing I did was load up IE and try and download mozilla (firefox wasn't around at the time). I found out that for some reason ftp was not supported in that version of IE running on win98. I immediatly loaded up a commandline and used the console ftp.
While downloading, the instructor walked by and with a paniced and puzzled look on her face said "hey, what are you trying to find out?" And I casually said, "uhhh, I'm downloading mozilla". She quickly walked away without a word.
Its really pathetic how little you need to know in order to get a computer related position.
"You know word? GREAT! You can teach our incomming students how to use their computers."
Because havenco specializes in hosting secret (aka not public) sites that store potentially controversial things. I believe they buy their bandwidth from countries in europe. All it takes is enough complaints to havenco's provider to get their net connection pulled, they aren't immune to that.
Many registrars do not support locking of domains. The people that use those registrars may be fscked in the future if they arent around to deny a transfer request.
The black box is usually part of the airbag system.
The airbag system will record various things after a crash such as speed, are seatbelts fastened, how fast did the airbag deploy, and a bunch of other things. Messing with the airbag system to stop it from recording data would probably interfere with the system itself... not a good idea.
It would take more processing power to figure out what detail level to drop to, and what detail to raise to than to actually just draw the frame at the set detail level.
Having 100fps at maximum complexity will give you some piece of mind that when someone comes running at you with a chainsaw your graphics card won't suddenly drop to 10fps. Its more likely to drop to 50-70fps instead.
Yes you do need pretty graphics to kill people. If you are shooting at a guy that is across a field and your in 640x480 with ultra minimum detail, all you will see is a block if your lucky, a little speck that looks like a rock if you are unlucky.
Proceed to bump the resolution up to 1280x1024 with max details and all of a suddon you will notice you can make out a figure across the field, you can probably even see where his head (or other vulnerable spot) is. You can take aim much easier than if you were saving fps and going to the rock bottom low of detail.
You are right about not being able to actually see more than 60fps on a 60hz monitor but you are still wrong in saying there is no reason to render the extra frames.
In your previous post it seemed you were claiming that 60hz is the exact same as 60fps generated by the video card. It isn't. Even though your eye isn't seeing those extra frames not being displayed, the likliness of a missed frame is very low if your videocard framerate is higher than your monitor refresh rate.
For example if your video card is putting out 60fps and your monitor is running at 60hz, there is a high liklihood that somewhere along the line your video card will drop below 60fps, and you will be displaying the same frame in more than one monitor refresh cycle, now THAT is wasteful.
Generating too many frames per second will make for smoother gameplay, generating not enough, well, you should know what happens.
You should go ahead and implement a motion blur then. If you can't, then go hunker down and quit complaining about the latest and greatest technology not being needed because your favorite game is descent 2.
Hardcore gamers don't want to decrease detail to gain speed, they want a faster video card that can display the detail they want at the framerate they want.
The reason games look better at an average fps of 100 is that they can actually fully calculate and display the scene as it was ment to look and can handle the complexities of the scene while keeping the framerate at an average of 100fps instead of periodicly dropping below 30 and making the game run like shit.
Games are getting more and more complex. In order to combat increasing complexity you need a video card that can handle the complexity.
I would advise you to stop trolling about not needing new games, not needing 100fps, and not needing new video cards before you get schooled by someone who is way more advanced than I am in graphics.
Using the gpu as a second processor would definatly be awsome, but your comment about 100fps being a waste is silly.
Computer generated frames per second is a completely different thing than film frames per second. Most of your dvds are 23.9 frames per second and you can view even the biggest action scenes with no issues.
Try playing even quake2 multiplayer at 30fps and you will get a headache. It might be okay single player because there is much less action going on. But once you have 50-100 entities flying around think players blasting each other with various weapons that have visible paths, each visible bullet is an entity that needs its projectile path calculated and rendered, thats alot of work if have a card that can only draw at 30fps.
A video card only capabable of drawing at 30fps is limited to CALCULATING and rendering 30 frames every second with a given complexity. If you add more entities and exceed that complexity, you can't calculate 30fps anymore and movements won't be calculated and displayed quickly enough to gaurentee smooth gameplay.
The more fps you can calculate and render in a second the more complex of a scene you can render in real time. In unreal tournament 2003, if you have a card that can do 40fps when your in a game by yourself standing still and then you hop on a 30 player server, you will not have smooth gameplay, because 40fps just isn't good enough, because your framerate will drop considerably when the complexity increases.
Also, 30fps != 30hz, 60fps != 60hz, and lastly, 100fps != 100hz. The monitor refresh rate has absolutly nothing to do with the performance of your video card. It may affect how you see the results of your video card though.
I also concur with your guess as to what the target market is, the main target market is gamers who spend their life playing first person shooters who want the best and fastest gameplay. Other markets obviously include 3d modelers like you mentioned and many others.
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I would be interested to know which of my points you find not rational. I challange you to prove me wrong about how a large percentage of the population does not care weather its moral or not to download copyrighted material or how that only a small percentage of violators will be sued.
I never said anything about lowering prices. Therefore you were the unrealistic one saying you could stop piracy by standing with a shotgun at the hypothetical copy machine.
I have no solution to stop piracy. Trying to show that piracy is immoral has been useless so far (do you think those posters in schools saying "downloading is wrong" really makes people think twice?)
Lawsuits will not make it stop either. The riaa doesn't have the manpower to sue each and every single downloader. The most people that would ever be sued will be less than 1%.
Lowering prices will not make it stop, adding more drm will not make it stop, nothing will make it stop.
It can be reduced but not stopped. Piracy is now a fact of life.
Now you're being unrealistic. Suppose the copy machine is in someone's basement.
Ah, but piracy != stealing since no material goods are lost by the producer.
Lets say someone buys a comic book from your store and photocopies it and gives it to all their friends. How do you combat that with a shotgun?
Actually that is a bad thing to do because of something called a default judgement. If you don't defend yourself in a civil case, the plaintiff wil win. IANAL but I have first hand experience in the type of case that would happen if you just ignored the court.
A business contract was breached by an ex-affiliate of my company. We filed suit, defendant avoided being served but was eventually served. Sanctions issued to defendant (basicly a an order for him to pay) for serving fees and lawyer's billable time. You don't pay, you get a default judgement against you. Defendant failed to show up for oral deposition (kinda like a hearing), again sanctions issued against defendant for lawyer's fees. Defendant didn't pay, motion for final judgement submitted. This case has been going on for quite some time now, but the end result will be a win.
I'm surprised that so many people here post about having contact problems with paypal. Paypal's customer support number is pasted right on the contact page. I've called them about 10 times in the past year with various minor issues. Hold time was less than 5 minutes and my problem was resolved in less than another 5.
They would just randomly choose any 9-digit number. The security (or lack thereof) is in the linkage between the SSN and a person.
I'm sure people do that... there are many services online where you can just enter a social security number (and pay a fee) and it will search their databases.
They still need to know whom that SSN represents.
Having a SSN can ultimatly lead to finding who it represents.
Social Security numbers were originally designed for use with the social security system, and that was *it*. The social security system is set up where the working class have a portion of their pay given to the government's social security program. People who have worked all their life and retire will start collecting money from social security that was paid for by the working class.
The SSN was only intended to be the number you would use to identify yourself to the social security department where they could look up your info and validate that you are ready to recieve your money when you retire.
Now your SSN is your life for the most part. If somsone has your number, they dont even need to know anything else to screw you over. With the number they can do searches and find your name and current residance. With that info they can sign up for credit cards in your name and screw over your credit. They can basicly steal your identity just by knowing that one special number. If someone with bad intentions has your SSN, you are basicly fscked unless you have alot of money to pay lawyers to fix everything.
It's basicly a fairly fscked up system.
I downloaded the demo of opera 8. At first I loved it, fast page loads, low mem usage, you can move tabs around and reorginize them.
I started to think about dumping opera when I noticed: it didn't support image blocking, i couldnt find a way for flash not to auto play, it liked to crash alot (although it saved my active tabs which was nice), and most of all it would like to randomly chew up 30% cpu while it was doing what appeared to be nothing (slashdot and google tabs open, nothing more).
And then I did it, I dumped opera and happily went back to using firefox. Opera still has a long way to go (it's not just about render speed you know)
There is no contradiction actually. Again I say that a government providing a service to the people does not fall under the catagory of communism and I shall further explain it here.
Communism is a *system* of government. Capitalism is also a *system* of government. A government can modify certain practices and not affect the system. This holds true in this case in which our government is providing a service to the taxpayers using taxpayer money. Taxpayer money gets funneled through the US government and some of it eventually makes it's way to pay for NOAA. The capialism system still is in effect because the public (businesses included) have the option of providing a competing service at any or no cost. They have the option of providing a better service (eg: displaying a fancy html page with NOAA data rather than just XML).
These options that I spelled out that the public have are here mainly because of the capitalist system of government.
Communism is defined as a system in which a community has equal ownership of everything. How does this relate to a government giving out some "free" stuff?
From answers.com:
An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
----
The idea of capitalism is the free market, people sell and buy things that are for the most part not under government control. The public controls the market via supply and demand, the market controls the prices, which in the end controls the businesses (kinda).
Communism is usually where the government owns and controls everything. A government providing a service to the people does not fall under the catagory of communism.
Use most any language these days and throw it the most complex logic you have ever seen, and it should do fine. Logic is not all that hard for a compiler/interpreter/computer to handle.
Do something that will take a significant amount of cpu time to execute, say sorting something. As a quick example take *any* sorting algorithm and run it using java, and then run it using c. This is where java's raw slowness pokes its ugly head.
About 5 years ago there was a story just like this on slashdot that was making all the commotion. The claim was three dimensional non-volatile memory and the capacity was 660gigs per cubic cm. So far I haven't heard anything since the slashdot story 5 years ago.
It would be nice to actually be able to buy this technology that always seems to be "about to come out". It would also be nice to be at a price comparable to current consumor storage devices.
For now we will still be stuck with the bottleneck of bottlenecks, the spinning harddrive based on technology that was thought up somewhere around the 1960s (or was it even the 50s?).
I was never a good student. I hated school up until college. During junior high I would not to assignments on a regular basis, I was a standard rebel. I graduated junior high with a 68 average.
High school came along and it was more of the same. I failed chemistry, two math classes, four english classes, I was a wreck. I didn't even plan on going to college because the plan was that I would take over my fathers computer business after high school. I Didn't take the PSAT, I didn't take the SAT, and it was my senior year.
I found out about some local colleges that didn't require SAT scores for admission. I looked at some local technical schools. I then found out about the SUNY technical school chain, which opened my eyes. I could go away to an upstate college that didn't require SATs or anything. (I managed to get accepted based on my resume and references, not my high school transcript)
My senior year I worked quite alot to try and get my grade up. My average up until then was 74. My average in my senior year was 98. Even though I failed seven classes and never went to summer school I still graduated on time and I had a reduced schedule in my last year as well. Somehow in my last year I had three classes, I was back home by 10am every day.
I graduated college with a 3.5. I don't attribute my success in college to anything I ever learned in high school. High school was a complete waste for me. I could have skipped high school completely and dropped out as a freshman, got a GED and went off to college and probably would still be doing what I'm doing right now (which is owning/running a highly successful business)
When I arrived at college, part of tuition covered a thinkpad which was given to myself and also many other students en masse. We had to take these 30 minute training classes in order to keep the lappys.
The first thing I did was load up IE and try and download mozilla (firefox wasn't around at the time). I found out that for some reason ftp was not supported in that version of IE running on win98. I immediatly loaded up a commandline and used the console ftp.
While downloading, the instructor walked by and with a paniced and puzzled look on her face said "hey, what are you trying to find out?" And I casually said, "uhhh, I'm downloading mozilla". She quickly walked away without a word.
Its really pathetic how little you need to know in order to get a computer related position.
"You know word? GREAT! You can teach our incomming students how to use their computers."
Because havenco specializes in hosting secret (aka not public) sites that store potentially controversial things. I believe they buy their bandwidth from countries in europe. All it takes is enough complaints to havenco's provider to get their net connection pulled, they aren't immune to that.
Many registrars do not support locking of domains. The people that use those registrars may be fscked in the future if they arent around to deny a transfer request.
I guess you're not a programmer. For every programming project I've ever done since about 1990 I have things like:
; TODO: add feature X
/* TODO: add feature Y */
// TODO: add feature Z
# TODO: find even more ways to write a comment!
And I have a little shell script that does basicly
grep "TODO:" * -r
Most of the programmers I know have some sort of system like this, wether its a TODO or FIXME or whatever, its all the same idea.
Sidewalks are the safest place for a bike.
The black box is usually part of the airbag system.
The airbag system will record various things after a crash such as speed, are seatbelts fastened, how fast did the airbag deploy, and a bunch of other things. Messing with the airbag system to stop it from recording data would probably interfere with the system itself... not a good idea.
It would take more processing power to figure out what detail level to drop to, and what detail to raise to than to actually just draw the frame at the set detail level.
Having 100fps at maximum complexity will give you some piece of mind that when someone comes running at you with a chainsaw your graphics card won't suddenly drop to 10fps. Its more likely to drop to 50-70fps instead.
Yes you do need pretty graphics to kill people. If you are shooting at a guy that is across a field and your in 640x480 with ultra minimum detail, all you will see is a block if your lucky, a little speck that looks like a rock if you are unlucky.
Proceed to bump the resolution up to 1280x1024 with max details and all of a suddon you will notice you can make out a figure across the field, you can probably even see where his head (or other vulnerable spot) is. You can take aim much easier than if you were saving fps and going to the rock bottom low of detail.
You are right about not being able to actually see more than 60fps on a 60hz monitor but you are still wrong in saying there is no reason to render the extra frames.
In your previous post it seemed you were claiming that 60hz is the exact same as 60fps generated by the video card. It isn't. Even though your eye isn't seeing those extra frames not being displayed, the likliness of a missed frame is very low if your videocard framerate is higher than your monitor refresh rate.
For example if your video card is putting out 60fps and your monitor is running at 60hz, there is a high liklihood that somewhere along the line your video card will drop below 60fps, and you will be displaying the same frame in more than one monitor refresh cycle, now THAT is wasteful.
Generating too many frames per second will make for smoother gameplay, generating not enough, well, you should know what happens.
You should go ahead and implement a motion blur then. If you can't, then go hunker down and quit complaining about the latest and greatest technology not being needed because your favorite game is descent 2.
Hardcore gamers don't want to decrease detail to gain speed, they want a faster video card that can display the detail they want at the framerate they want.
The reason games look better at an average fps of 100 is that they can actually fully calculate and display the scene as it was ment to look and can handle the complexities of the scene while keeping the framerate at an average of 100fps instead of periodicly dropping below 30 and making the game run like shit.
Games are getting more and more complex. In order to combat increasing complexity you need a video card that can handle the complexity.
I would advise you to stop trolling about not needing new games, not needing 100fps, and not needing new video cards before you get schooled by someone who is way more advanced than I am in graphics.
Using the gpu as a second processor would definatly be awsome, but your comment about 100fps being a waste is silly.
Computer generated frames per second is a completely different thing than film frames per second. Most of your dvds are 23.9 frames per second and you can view even the biggest action scenes with no issues.
Try playing even quake2 multiplayer at 30fps and you will get a headache. It might be okay single player because there is much less action going on. But once you have 50-100 entities flying around think players blasting each other with various weapons that have visible paths, each visible bullet is an entity that needs its projectile path calculated and rendered, thats alot of work if have a card that can only draw at 30fps.
A video card only capabable of drawing at 30fps is limited to CALCULATING and rendering 30 frames every second with a given complexity. If you add more entities and exceed that complexity, you can't calculate 30fps anymore and movements won't be calculated and displayed quickly enough to gaurentee smooth gameplay.
The more fps you can calculate and render in a second the more complex of a scene you can render in real time. In unreal tournament 2003, if you have a card that can do 40fps when your in a game by yourself standing still and then you hop on a 30 player server, you will not have smooth gameplay, because 40fps just isn't good enough, because your framerate will drop considerably when the complexity increases.
Also, 30fps != 30hz, 60fps != 60hz, and lastly, 100fps != 100hz. The monitor refresh rate has absolutly nothing to do with the performance of your video card. It may affect how you see the results of your video card though.
I also concur with your guess as to what the target market is, the main target market is gamers who spend their life playing first person shooters who want the best and fastest gameplay. Other markets obviously include 3d modelers like you mentioned and many others.