IANAL, but I am pretty sure that any implied warranties can be waived in most jurisdictions. Not in the one I live (Finland/EU). At least not all of them. There has not been any real cases in courts so situation (what is "implied" and what is not) is not very clear.
Let the employer have whatever s/he wants, Why? Doesn't your job include advocating the "best" (in your opinion) solution for the problem (in hand)?
It isn't your job to go on a crusade to change their minds. I seriously thing it is mine. I am on a crusade at the moment (have been long) to change the old VCS we have to a better one, although management (and even a lot of programmers) thing the current one "works" (it works so badly it sucks).
There is nothing less attractive than people trying to force things on you, don't be one of those people yourself. Somebody is going to force the CVS system, there cannot be several. Why not give the person deciding input on when to do it and what to choose (and why to change)?
If you want someone to hold accountable if it breaks, hire your own maintenance code staff. This is a silly argument in a management meeting. You see, now the "free" OS has a big price tag. Yes, the price may be smaller than the proprietary tag, but "nobody got fired for buying proprietary SW".
Print out a copy of any MS EULA and take it into the meeting with you.
I would never ever recommend such an avenue. It will not work with lawyers. You see, if you paid for something there is the liability set by the laws.
My recommendation would be to ask what OS's (licenses) are usable (Mac?, Solaris?,...) and why. Solaris, after all, is pretty close (in use) to Linux, and at least I would be ready for such a "compromise" (although seriously I doubt such a compromise would be acceptable to the management).
Perhaps people act like assholes because they can get away with it?
Then the CCTV would be the "perfect solution".
Not that I like the solution, it is far too easily misused: legal but "morally" suspicious activity becomes in essence illegal (or else your face will be in front page of a yellow paper).
The problem is that quite often the package to be installed depends on a new version of some library.
Updating the library... it can vary from trivial (comes from the main repository) to practically impossible (ffmpeg or Gnome). For example Evince 0.8.0 is impossible to install in Fedora Core 6 because it need new version of some Gnome libs - and installing them would just be, well, impossible.
The DLL hell in Windows is (almost fully) gone. Dependency hell has gotten worse. I hope it is getting better as finally developers and distribution makers are fully acknowledging it.
You may think that just giving them more proof that you're right and they're wrong is just what's needed The biggest problem is that "you" are not (necessarily/always) right. The attack to Iraq was not a right thing to do, at least not for the given reasons. No amount of proof (and I do not refer to the lies Whitehouse has given) is going to change that.
I agree that the lack of dialog is just plain childish.
This is because nobody can commit to maintain forever, changing interfaces will break things and the testing of the drivers is neglected.
In practice it leads to situation where I do not install kernel (security?) updates as they are too much a hassle. After the update nVidia and gspca (USB camera) drivers need to be manually compiled. In another machine there is yet another driver (for Xilinx Paraller Cable IV).
Forgetting to compile will - silently - fail some programs (Egika / Xilinx programs).
I would love if Xilinx and nVidia happened to make all their programs OSS but then I do understand that this will not happen in "near" future and expecting it to happen is just plain silly.
But my point for the rant was: the kernel developers (including Linus) have contradictory urges (or requirements) for things like these depending on their personal *political* views.
KBI (kernel binary interface) is one: it is abhorred but then driver writers are expected to "maintain" their drivers. KBI would make situation much, *MUCH* easier for hobbyist driver writers (and therefore to users). Unfortunately for me (the user) KBI would make proprietary drivers easier too - which is for some obscure political(*) reason a bad thing.
(*) No, I do not need or want the/a lecture of the political view - not as long as the practical problems like testing are completely overlooked.
Well... how about those outside-of-kernel-tree drivers (like usb cameras)? The claim has always been that there is no need for stable kernel binary interface because getting driver source into main tree is easy...
Even in case you are right (see the other posts), it does not matter so much.
Calling existing functions with self made parameters can be very dangerous - think about accessing e.g. a database.
Linux has maintained almost complete binary compatibility for applications for ages
This does not help a bit as the C++ compiler has not. Neither has any of the (dynamic) libraries.
BTW, referring to SunOS4 must be the lamest comparision ever, Red Hat was not even born when Solaris was mainstream. You see, difference between Solaris 2.5.1 and 10 is smaller than RH6 and Gentoo 2007 although the time span is bigger.
I doubt RIAA would have internal approval of their actions if they start consistently paying the defendant's expenses at the end.
I disagree.
Let's assume legal fees are 100k for both sides. If RIAA have to pay 60k extra for every tenth or so trial the average cost is increasing less than 10% - a marginal change.
On the other hand fear factor is not going down, the defendant still lost 40k, at least few years worth of income (after rent, etc.).
Now think about how much the losers have to pay RIAA, and how much money they get in out-of-court settlements. So even if RIAA loses two thirds of the cases (and have to pay) I think they still would be winning (monetary wise). Not as much as previously, but enough not to stop their racketeering activities.
I find it silly to compare his kids with himself - the comparison (in the context of http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/6/20/223) clearly does not make sense.
Then he starts ranting GPLv2 not being about "morals" although he himself considers anything written to Linux kernel ("thinking about Linux") must be GPLv2 but ported drivers (e.g. from Windows) does not need to be.
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It's really all come down to games for me. If my games would all run on Linux I'd be there tomorrow.
First, I doubt this. There are a lot of discussions here how Linux "needs" AD or Exchange or Outlook or Photoshop or... I'm certain Windows users will never run out of reasons and excuses.
Second, I'd like to know how much you are willing to bend over and for how long. What is needed for you to put your money where your mouth is? How bad must Windows became before you would really move over? Well... back to point one, some Windows users will never run out of reasons/excuses.
My way of forcing is democracy - I try to force everybody involved with environment and society to adopt my (i.e. majority) standards. You do have the possibility to move out of my planet. Go ahead.
Mafia gives a shit whether people buy or not. They "just" make you pay. Why do you ask?
Normal gasoline engine which can give 100hp (for decent acceleration) is not fuel efficient when giving "only" 30hp.
Hybrid can use the electric motors to help acceleration thus reducing the size of the engine. Then there is Atkinson engine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/prius which with CVT can give even more efficiencies.
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I would never ever recommend such an avenue. It will not work with lawyers. You see, if you paid for something there is the liability set by the laws.
My recommendation would be to ask what OS's (licenses) are usable (Mac?, Solaris?, ...) and why. Solaris, after all, is pretty close (in use) to Linux, and at least I would be ready for such a "compromise" (although seriously I doubt such a compromise would be acceptable to the management).
That would give new meaning to "critical mass" :-)
Perhaps people act like assholes because they can get away with it?
Then the CCTV would be the "perfect solution".
Not that I like the solution, it is far too easily misused: legal but "morally" suspicious activity becomes in essence illegal (or else your face will be in front page of a yellow paper).
The problem is that quite often the package to be installed depends on a new version of some library.
... it can vary from trivial (comes from the main repository) to practically impossible (ffmpeg or Gnome). For example Evince 0.8.0 is impossible to install in Fedora Core 6 because it need new version of some Gnome libs - and installing them would just be, well, impossible.
Updating the library
The DLL hell in Windows is (almost fully) gone. Dependency hell has gotten worse. I hope it is getting better as finally developers and distribution makers are fully acknowledging it.
I agree that the lack of dialog is just plain childish.
I wouldn't say news has always been entertainment. Well, maybe it is now in the USA, I wouldn't know as I much rather watch BBC, etc.
None that I know ...
And that is my problem. I do have several (zip files for backup, etc) that are over 4GB, and therefore FAT is not very usable.
At the moment I've given interoperability up, I use ext2.
I find the situation in practice untenable.
This is because nobody can commit to maintain forever, changing interfaces will break things and the testing of the drivers is neglected.
In practice it leads to situation where I do not install kernel (security?) updates as they are too much a hassle. After the update nVidia and gspca (USB camera) drivers need to be manually compiled. In another machine there is yet another driver (for Xilinx Paraller Cable IV).
Forgetting to compile will - silently - fail some programs (Egika / Xilinx programs).
I would love if Xilinx and nVidia happened to make all their programs OSS but then I do understand that this will not happen in "near" future and expecting it to happen is just plain silly.
But my point for the rant was: the kernel developers (including Linus) have contradictory urges (or requirements) for things like these depending on their personal *political* views.
KBI (kernel binary interface) is one: it is abhorred but then driver writers are expected to "maintain" their drivers. KBI would make situation much, *MUCH* easier for hobbyist driver writers (and therefore to users). Unfortunately for me (the user) KBI would make proprietary drivers easier too - which is for some obscure political(*) reason a bad thing.
(*) No, I do not need or want the/a lecture of the political view - not as long as the practical problems like testing are completely overlooked.
Last time I tried this (maybe a year ago) in Linux it did not work that way, it just failed. Now my USB hard drive is ext2.
Do you happen to know how well this is supported in OSX/Solaris/*BSD/... (i.e. is it worth the trouble)?
Well ... how about those outside-of-kernel-tree drivers (like usb cameras)? The claim has always been that there is no need for stable kernel binary interface because getting driver source into main tree is easy ...
Is it, or is it not?
FAT has the disadvantage of having maximum file size limit of only 4GiB. For me this is showstopper.
Even in case you are right (see the other posts), it does not matter so much. Calling existing functions with self made parameters can be very dangerous - think about accessing e.g. a database.
I seriously doubt ARP spoofing is reliable enough (to capture everything).
This does not help a bit as the C++ compiler has not. Neither has any of the (dynamic) libraries.
BTW, referring to SunOS4 must be the lamest comparision ever, Red Hat was not even born when Solaris was mainstream. You see, difference between Solaris 2.5.1 and 10 is smaller than RH6 and Gentoo 2007 although the time span is bigger.
I disagree.
Let's assume legal fees are 100k for both sides. If RIAA have to pay 60k extra for every tenth or so trial the average cost is increasing less than 10% - a marginal change.
On the other hand fear factor is not going down, the defendant still lost 40k, at least few years worth of income (after rent, etc.).
Now think about how much the losers have to pay RIAA, and how much money they get in out-of-court settlements. So even if RIAA loses two thirds of the cases (and have to pay) I think they still would be winning (monetary wise). Not as much as previously, but enough not to stop their racketeering activities.
I find it silly to compare his kids with himself - the comparison (in the context of http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/6/20/223) clearly does not make sense.
Then he starts ranting GPLv2 not being about "morals" although he himself considers anything written to Linux kernel ("thinking about Linux") must be GPLv2 but ported drivers (e.g. from Windows) does not need to be.
Sour, said the fox ...
How about "hitagora suitchi"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VQdamLysNM
It's really all come down to games for me. If my games would all run on Linux I'd be there tomorrow.
... I'm certain Windows users will never run out of reasons and excuses.
... back to point one, some Windows users will never run out of reasons/excuses.
First, I doubt this. There are a lot of discussions here how Linux "needs" AD or Exchange or Outlook or Photoshop or
Second, I'd like to know how much you are willing to bend over and for how long. What is needed for you to put your money where your mouth is? How bad must Windows became before you would really move over? Well
You didn't pay unlimited tax, did you?
Exactly.
My way of forcing is democracy - I try to force everybody involved with environment and society to adopt my (i.e. majority) standards. You do have the possibility to move out of my planet. Go ahead.
Mafia gives a shit whether people buy or not. They "just" make you pay. Why do you ask?
Check how your example has worked with Mafia, or how nicely the environment is treated.
... not that of the company.
Sorry, it is our environment, it is our social responsibility
Normal gasoline engine which can give 100hp (for decent acceleration) is not fuel efficient when giving "only" 30hp.
Hybrid can use the electric motors to help acceleration thus reducing the size of the engine. Then there is Atkinson engine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/prius which with CVT can give even more efficiencies.