See my post below. The bacteria lost information. That information had to come from somewhere (hint: his name begins with a capital G). http://www.evolutiondeceit.com/
So lets say that city x is handcuffing everybody in town and taking them to a concentration camp to die. Would it be a beneficial mutation if some mutant didn't have arms (and therefore couldn't be handcuffed)? By your (pseudo) logic it would. The fact is that these bacteria are losing information, not gaining it. The information had to come from somewhere.
Fish having gills isn't a mutation, they were designed that way.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v17/i3/bacteria .asp Your nylon eating bacteria have been observed changing a bunch of times. They simply have a built in mechanism that makes them quickly adapt to changing food sources, it is not mutation.
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You need a supernova to fuse past iron. This requires a star that is already formed... How did that star form anyway? Has anyone ever observed a star forming?
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Ok then... one simple question then. If evolution is true, how do you tell right from wrong?
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Why are you shifting the burden of proof to me? Is there any reason to expect that it is nonlinear?
So what is your proof that the magnetic field is cyclical? Please don't use the weak argument that there are field reversals in sub-oceanic rock either. That is clearly garbage since they assumed that declining strength was pole reversal.
Radiometric dating is garbage as well. All that tells you is that there is a ratio, all these morons posing as real scientists somehow liken that to years. You assume that the rock formed without any isotope present. It is also laughable how you get the date from the ratio. They use "index fossils" which are just assumed to be a certain age from the "geologic column" (which by the way only exists in the textbooks).
As usual, you evolutionists use your same old tactics in a sad attempt to justify your wicked life. I wouldn't have any problem with your dumb religion if my tax dollars weren't supporting it.
That's like the argument that people with sickle cell anemia are less prone to malaria. They may be resistant to malaria, but they still have sickle cell anemia (a negetive mutation)! Or wait, a mutant with no legs can't get athlete's foot, that's beneficial, right... haha
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I'd be mad if somebody could prove evolutionism scientifically. That's why I am glad I am right.
...there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts... 2 Peter 3:3
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The offer is still on the table I am sure. His ministry still has the rest of his staff there. It is a shame that he didn't pay his employees' payroll taxes, but he wasn't even allowed to defend his position at the trial. There's the justice system for ya.
Time, space and matter came into existance by themselves? That sounds more like religion than what I believe! If you have something semi-intelligent to say I would like to hear it. Otherwise I will just assume that you believe in evolution because if God owns the world, he has the right to judge it. That means that you are accountable for your sin. I am sure that you would rather be a heap of random chemicals with no reason to exist other than to feel good until you die and rot 6 ft under ground. The joke is on you though, because where you're headed is further down than 6ft!
Here here. I worked for a fortune 500 company on internship for 3 months, it was exactly like the movie office space. Umm... I had a stapler, it was a swingline
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Evolutionism takes more faith to believe in than creation. There is scientific evidence for creation, but evolutionism comes up short. If you can figure out some scientific evidence for evolutionism, go to www.drdino.com and claim your $250k prize! Please don't push your religion here though.
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Ok, lets start with the age of the earth. The moon moves away from the earth at a rate of about 1 inch per year. Billions of years ago, the moon would have been part of the earth.
Erosion wears away at the surface of earth's land. After billions of years, why is surface of the earth not completely flat because of erosion?
The magnetic field of the earth is gradually declining in strength. Even 100 thousand years ago, the magnetic field would have been so strong that any living organism would be squished.
Take away billions of years and you have a pretty dumb sounding theory!
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You anonymous coward, have something intelligent to say rather than just scoffing at the truth because of your sinful life.
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Thank you for actually providing something intelligent. Most evolutionists just flame.
So yes, it has been observed that hyrdogens can fuse into helium. Has it ever been observed with any higher order elements such as uranium?
My friend, I used to believe in evolution as well because that's what I was taught in school (I went to catholic school and they taught that God used evolution to create things as they are now over billions of years). It wasn't until I watched Kent Hovind's "The Garden of Eden" where he both destroys any chance of evolution (1-5) and shows a heap of verified scientific evidence for a young earth and a literal 7 day creation that I trusted the biblical account. I strongly encourage you to watch that video (or any of his other seminars for that matter) they are all available by doing a search for "Hovind" on google video.
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It hasn't been disproven? Give me one instance of a kind of evolution being proven true in areas 1-5 below (no creationist will argue that #6 has been observed). Evolutionism is a religion more so than creation, problem is that it is supported by my tax dollars.
1) Cosmic evolution: nothing exploded and created hydrogen gas.
2) Chemical evolution: hydrogen "evolved" into higher order elements.
3) Stellar and planetary evolution: these elements somehow got together and formed stars.
4) Organic evolution: life created itself.
5) Macro evolution: this single celled organism "evolved" into a multi-cellular organism. One kind of organism changes to another (i.e. a bananna evolved into a horse)
6) Micro evolution: (which HAS been observed and IS scientific) this is minor changes in kinds of animals. A wolf, dog and coyote all have a common answer.
When you do, go to drdino.com and claim your $250k prize! If not, there will be no other option but for there to be a special creation by a loving God who owns you and will judge you. You can choose to ignore it, but it is the truth.
Has anyone ever observed a beneficial mutation? Like something getting better from mutation? I would be interested to hear of any proof that mutation makes things better (scientific proof though, not religious doctrine).
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So minor changes between kinds of animals does happen (not from apes to humans though), this is observed. Why doesn't somebody show us some examples of the other parts of your beloved religion? Why don't we still have "missing links" running around? Here are the six
1) Cosmic evolution: nothing exploded and created hydrogen gas. 2) Chemical evolution: hydrogen "evolved" into higher order elements. 3) Stellar and planetary evolution: these elements somehow got together and formed stars. 4) Organic evolution: life created itself. 5) Macro evolution: this single celled organism "evolved" into a multi-cellular organism. One kind of organism changes to another (i.e. a bananna evolved into a horse) 6) Micro evolution: (which HAS been observed and IS scientific) this is minor changes in kinds of animals. A wolf, dog and coyote all have a common answer.
When you do, go to drdino.com and claim your $250k prize! If not, there will be no other option but for there to be a special creation by a loving God who owns you and will judge you. You can choose to ignore it, but it is the truth.
I was hired full time and farmed out to another local district to weather some budget cuts. I am still a tech director and still have to do 5 days worth of work in 2. Schools aren't run like businesses, they are run by glorified teachers.
You must not understand that to make one change on 400+ computers takes a good week worth of work. When there is more important work to be done, it gets ignored. It is cheaper to suspend students who act maliciously than it is to prevent them from getting around security. I use windows for crying out loud, has anybody ever been able to make windows secure????
Go back to class and fling boogers at the girl you like.
I work in educational technology and use an open source SIS solution called Focus/SIS. Focus is a fork of Centre created when the miller group (the same ones who started the site mentioned in the article) stole the intellectual property that was open sourced by one of its developers. This site, created by the miller group is just a front to push their inferior sis (whose creator left it) and expensive support contracts. While FOSS in schools is a great asset to those of us who run them, this website will not help anybody trying to get the best FOSS for their schools.
I am a tech director for a k12 public school district. Just last week we had to suspend 5 kids (actually bright kids) for using proxies among other things (and moreover being stupid about it). One of the problems was that a student found a website (that I have actually used before) that lets you boot to a floppy and recover a windows password from a computer. That student then had admin access to all of our 420 laptops. As the only tech there (and part time at that) it is much easier to suspend them than to re-image all 420 laptops, password protect the bios and prevent booting from anything but hd! I felt bad nabbing them, but they were dumb enough to leave their script kiddie programs on their network drives... a simple search for *.exe screwed them all. As far as proxies, they are coming out with them faster than I can (or care to) block them. As my case is not different from many other school districts facing harsh budget cuts out there, I don't forsee security in schools getting better any time soon mostly because most of us cracking down used to be those little nerds wreaking havoc on our school's sysadmins.
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See my post below. The bacteria lost information. That information had to come from somewhere (hint: his name begins with a capital G). http://www.evolutiondeceit.com/
So lets say that city x is handcuffing everybody in town and taking them to a concentration camp to die. Would it be a beneficial mutation if some mutant didn't have arms (and therefore couldn't be handcuffed)? By your (pseudo) logic it would. The fact is that these bacteria are losing information, not gaining it. The information had to come from somewhere.
a .asp Your nylon eating bacteria have been observed changing a bunch of times. They simply have a built in mechanism that makes them quickly adapt to changing food sources, it is not mutation.
Fish having gills isn't a mutation, they were designed that way.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v17/i3/bacteri
You need a supernova to fuse past iron. This requires a star that is already formed... How did that star form anyway? Has anyone ever observed a star forming?
Ok then... one simple question then. If evolution is true, how do you tell right from wrong?
Why are you shifting the burden of proof to me? Is there any reason to expect that it is nonlinear?
So what is your proof that the magnetic field is cyclical? Please don't use the weak argument that there are field reversals in sub-oceanic rock either. That is clearly garbage since they assumed that declining strength was pole reversal.
Radiometric dating is garbage as well. All that tells you is that there is a ratio, all these morons posing as real scientists somehow liken that to years. You assume that the rock formed without any isotope present. It is also laughable how you get the date from the ratio. They use "index fossils" which are just assumed to be a certain age from the "geologic column" (which by the way only exists in the textbooks).
As usual, you evolutionists use your same old tactics in a sad attempt to justify your wicked life. I wouldn't have any problem with your dumb religion if my tax dollars weren't supporting it.
That's like the argument that people with sickle cell anemia are less prone to malaria. They may be resistant to malaria, but they still have sickle cell anemia (a negetive mutation)! Or wait, a mutant with no legs can't get athlete's foot, that's beneficial, right... haha
See this article for the refutal of this weak argument. The last paragraph says it all. http://www.icr.org/article/14/
Anybody else want to try?
I'd be mad if somebody could prove evolutionism scientifically. That's why I am glad I am right.
...there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts... 2 Peter 3:3
The offer is still on the table I am sure. His ministry still has the rest of his staff there. It is a shame that he didn't pay his employees' payroll taxes, but he wasn't even allowed to defend his position at the trial. There's the justice system for ya.
Time, space and matter came into existance by themselves? That sounds more like religion than what I believe! If you have something semi-intelligent to say I would like to hear it. Otherwise I will just assume that you believe in evolution because if God owns the world, he has the right to judge it. That means that you are accountable for your sin. I am sure that you would rather be a heap of random chemicals with no reason to exist other than to feel good until you die and rot 6 ft under ground. The joke is on you though, because where you're headed is further down than 6ft!
Here here. I worked for a fortune 500 company on internship for 3 months, it was exactly like the movie office space. Umm... I had a stapler, it was a swingline
Evolutionism takes more faith to believe in than creation. There is scientific evidence for creation, but evolutionism comes up short. If you can figure out some scientific evidence for evolutionism, go to www.drdino.com and claim your $250k prize! Please don't push your religion here though.
Ok, lets start with the age of the earth. The moon moves away from the earth at a rate of about 1 inch per year. Billions of years ago, the moon would have been part of the earth.
Erosion wears away at the surface of earth's land. After billions of years, why is surface of the earth not completely flat because of erosion?
The magnetic field of the earth is gradually declining in strength. Even 100 thousand years ago, the magnetic field would have been so strong that any living organism would be squished.
Take away billions of years and you have a pretty dumb sounding theory!
You anonymous coward, have something intelligent to say rather than just scoffing at the truth because of your sinful life.
Thank you for actually providing something intelligent. Most evolutionists just flame. So yes, it has been observed that hyrdogens can fuse into helium. Has it ever been observed with any higher order elements such as uranium? My friend, I used to believe in evolution as well because that's what I was taught in school (I went to catholic school and they taught that God used evolution to create things as they are now over billions of years). It wasn't until I watched Kent Hovind's "The Garden of Eden" where he both destroys any chance of evolution (1-5) and shows a heap of verified scientific evidence for a young earth and a literal 7 day creation that I trusted the biblical account. I strongly encourage you to watch that video (or any of his other seminars for that matter) they are all available by doing a search for "Hovind" on google video.
It hasn't been disproven? Give me one instance of a kind of evolution being proven true in areas 1-5 below (no creationist will argue that #6 has been observed). Evolutionism is a religion more so than creation, problem is that it is supported by my tax dollars. 1) Cosmic evolution: nothing exploded and created hydrogen gas. 2) Chemical evolution: hydrogen "evolved" into higher order elements. 3) Stellar and planetary evolution: these elements somehow got together and formed stars. 4) Organic evolution: life created itself. 5) Macro evolution: this single celled organism "evolved" into a multi-cellular organism. One kind of organism changes to another (i.e. a bananna evolved into a horse) 6) Micro evolution: (which HAS been observed and IS scientific) this is minor changes in kinds of animals. A wolf, dog and coyote all have a common answer. When you do, go to drdino.com and claim your $250k prize! If not, there will be no other option but for there to be a special creation by a loving God who owns you and will judge you. You can choose to ignore it, but it is the truth.
Has anyone ever observed a beneficial mutation? Like something getting better from mutation? I would be interested to hear of any proof that mutation makes things better (scientific proof though, not religious doctrine).
So minor changes between kinds of animals does happen (not from apes to humans though), this is observed. Why doesn't somebody show us some examples of the other parts of your beloved religion? Why don't we still have "missing links" running around? Here are the six
1) Cosmic evolution: nothing exploded and created hydrogen gas.
2) Chemical evolution: hydrogen "evolved" into higher order elements.
3) Stellar and planetary evolution: these elements somehow got together and formed stars.
4) Organic evolution: life created itself.
5) Macro evolution: this single celled organism "evolved" into a multi-cellular organism. One kind of organism changes to another (i.e. a bananna evolved into a horse)
6) Micro evolution: (which HAS been observed and IS scientific) this is minor changes in kinds of animals. A wolf, dog and coyote all have a common answer.
When you do, go to drdino.com and claim your $250k prize! If not, there will be no other option but for there to be a special creation by a loving God who owns you and will judge you. You can choose to ignore it, but it is the truth.
I was hired full time and farmed out to another local district to weather some budget cuts. I am still a tech director and still have to do 5 days worth of work in 2. Schools aren't run like businesses, they are run by glorified teachers. You must not understand that to make one change on 400+ computers takes a good week worth of work. When there is more important work to be done, it gets ignored. It is cheaper to suspend students who act maliciously than it is to prevent them from getting around security. I use windows for crying out loud, has anybody ever been able to make windows secure???? Go back to class and fling boogers at the girl you like.
I work in educational technology and use an open source SIS solution called Focus/SIS. Focus is a fork of Centre created when the miller group (the same ones who started the site mentioned in the article) stole the intellectual property that was open sourced by one of its developers. This site, created by the miller group is just a front to push their inferior sis (whose creator left it) and expensive support contracts. While FOSS in schools is a great asset to those of us who run them, this website will not help anybody trying to get the best FOSS for their schools.
I am a tech director for a k12 public school district. Just last week we had to suspend 5 kids (actually bright kids) for using proxies among other things (and moreover being stupid about it). One of the problems was that a student found a website (that I have actually used before) that lets you boot to a floppy and recover a windows password from a computer. That student then had admin access to all of our 420 laptops. As the only tech there (and part time at that) it is much easier to suspend them than to re-image all 420 laptops, password protect the bios and prevent booting from anything but hd! I felt bad nabbing them, but they were dumb enough to leave their script kiddie programs on their network drives... a simple search for *.exe screwed them all. As far as proxies, they are coming out with them faster than I can (or care to) block them. As my case is not different from many other school districts facing harsh budget cuts out there, I don't forsee security in schools getting better any time soon mostly because most of us cracking down used to be those little nerds wreaking havoc on our school's sysadmins.